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I've tried to keep my Vibrant as close to stock as possible because I don't want to lose the OTA update capability. I don't want to have to flash to stock via Odin before I update my phone because it is hardware locked. So far, I've only done minor mods (metamorph, removed bloat).
So if I install a custom kernel such as JAC's or KK's overclocked kernels, will I lose the ability to OTA update? Will the update simply overwrite the existing kernel on my phone?
richan90 said:
I've tried to keep my Vibrant as close to stock as possible because I don't want to lose the OTA update capability. I don't want to have to flash to stock via Odin before I update my phone because it is hardware locked. So far, I've only done minor mods (metamorph, removed bloat).
So if I install a custom kernel such as JAC's or KK's overclocked kernels, will I lose the ability to OTA update? Will the update simply overwrite the existing kernel on my phone?
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Most likely the devs in this forum will have a working and better version of any OTA you will get. Also when you get the OTA you will loose root and most likely get the bloat back. In my opinion you are better off waiting for one of eugene or bionix roms anyway.
To be more specific, my question is whether updating to any future ROM/OTA update will overwrite the existing kernel, or do I have to flash the stock kernel back before any of this?
richan90 said:
To be more specific, my question is whether updating to any future ROM/OTA update will overwrite the existing kernel, or do I have to flash the stock kernel back before any of this?
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You have to flash the stock kernal in order to be able to receive an OTA
Frankin-Twiz Final, awesome
can a stock kernal be flashed right over a custom kernal? (jac oc/uv)
kboater said:
can a stock kernal be flashed right over a custom kernal? (jac oc/uv)
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I think so, unless you have any kind of lagfix installed. I say so because I have flashed ROMS like Bionix (which has its own kernel) over stock and vice versa. MAKE SURE NO LAGFIX IS INSTALLED!
is there a link for a stock kernel that can be flashed through clockwork recovery as a zip without ODIN?
Im assuming there is as I flashed the OC/UV Jac kernel though clockwork, so assuming that stock should be able to be flashed through clockwork.
Thanks
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Can someone confirm that this is the stock kernel that can be flashed through clockwork? If I flash this (just stay rooted and with mobile AP) I should go back to be able to receive OTA updates, correct (I have not flashed any custom roms, just kernel)??
http://www.tabbal.net/files/Stock-Vibrant-Kernel.zip
I flashed JAC's kernel w/ voodoo & colorfix last night, using the back support files, and everything is good. However, I had previously flashed the JI6 modem for the better reception, and the back support files revert the modem back to JI2. Does anyone know for certain if the JI6 modem can now be reflashed without any ill effects? The thread in the Dev. section is silent on this question. TIA.
wbexpress said:
I flashed JAC's kernel w/ voodoo & colorfix last night, using the back support files, and everything is good. However, I had previously flashed the JI6 modem for the better reception, and the back support files revert the modem back to JI2. Does anyone know for certain if the JI6 modem can now be reflashed without any ill effects? The thread in the Dev. section is silent on this question. TIA.
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Shouldn't pose any issues at all... Ahhh, I see what your referring to. I'm not sure why the official back ported files zip contains the kernel or modem. If you'd like, here's a stand-alone flashable JI6 modem.
slighpcs said:
Shouldn't pose any issues at all... Ahhh, I see what your referring to. I'm not sure why the official back ported files zip contains the kernel or modem. If you'd like, here's a stand-alone flashable JI6 modem.
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Pass. Thanks. Now it's perfect, pending FroYo when it shall be more than perfect...
slighpcs said:
Shouldn't pose any issues at all... Ahhh, I see what your referring to. I'm not sure why the official back ported files zip contains the kernel or modem. If you'd like, here's a stand-alone flashable JI6 modem.
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Thanks much for the advice and the link. Works well.
I was running voodoo5 and tried to flash stupidfast but it wouldnt bootup. so i went into recovery and and did a nandroid recover and phone still wont boot up. can anyone help?
grillium said:
I was running voodoo5 and tried to flash stupidfast but it wouldnt bootup. so i went into recovery and and did a nandroid recover and phone still wont boot up. can anyone help?
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1) stupidfast is an rfs kernel...you cant flash rfs over voodoo...try reflashing the voodoo kernel and see if that fixes it...otherwise odin is ur friend
2)stupidfast is "stupid old" why would flash eclair rfs kernels from december?
oo I see. I have no Idea im kind of a noob, do you know anythreads that have newer kernels?
Stickied in the Development Forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
reflashing voodoo worked btw thank you
grillium said:
oo I see. I have no Idea im kind of a noob, do you know anythreads that have newer kernels?
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since eclair is pointless i only keep track of froyo..but here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
Or just stick with page 1 of development and not page 22.
good day.
chopper the dog said:
Or just stick with page 1 of development and not page 22.
good day.
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there might be hidden gems back there
can you flash a new voodoo kernel over Voodoo 5?
can you flash a new voodoo kernel over Voodoo 5?
grillium said:
can you flash a new voodoo kernel over Voodoo 5?
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u mean froyo v5 over eclair v5? prolly...but if you are upgrading to froyo i would just use an odin package...which will put you back to rfs...then flash the newer kernel and reconvert
OldManJames said:
there might be hidden gems back there
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like this! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974902
hey do you have a link to an odin package for froyo?
grillium said:
hey do you have a link to an odin package for froyo?
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Heres a hint: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12726641/HINT.jpg
Hey folks
Well I have had my share of messups with my vzn fsc.
Things are settled now as I have been Ble to figure out the stuff.
So after trying superclen, evilfascination, and community rom I have come to the conclusion that personally (and no offence to no one) I like the stock roms more but without the samsung and verizon bloatware.
Could you great guyz suggest me the best debloated and all stock rom which is smooth to operate, has great battery life and doesnt hVe any known issues.
I would b highly thankful for the help, pl link me to the threads guyz.
Regards
UPDATE : guyz the kind suggestion given my dnoyeb here in the second post is really awesome and i suggest all should try this.
dnoyeb said:
I ended up in going back to pure stock via odin. Then did the ota updates to ed03. From there did the following:
Odin cwm 2.5 from jt click here
3 finger on first boot into cwm
Install adryn's ed01 debloat/debing click here
Install imnuts -100 voodoo (or -50 or stock voltage) click here
Installed latest su zip pack (probably not needed) click here
Booted up, voodoo conversion
Then rebooted back to recovery, which is now 3.x after installing imnuts, installed following:
Sbrissen's tsm mod package click here
The shortlight package click here
Rebooted, all done.
Great battery life, runs great with launcherpro
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I ended up in going back to pure stock via odin. Then did the ota updates to ed03. From there did the following:
Odin cwm 2.5 from jt click here
3 finger on first boot into cwm
Install adryn's ed01 debloat/debing click here
Install imnuts -100 voodoo (or -50 or stock voltage) click here
Installed latest su zip pack (probably not needed) click here
Booted up, voodoo conversion
Then rebooted back to recovery, which is now 3.x after installing imnuts, installed following:
Sbrissen's tsm mod package click here
The shortlight package click here
Rebooted, all done.
Great battery life, runs great with launcherpro
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Thats awesome, how long hVe u been using it?
Also I actually want things as stock as poasible without the bloat.
Anything else u feel would be like that?
dnoyeb said:
I ended up in going back to pure stock via odin. Then did the ota updates to ed03. From there did the following:
Odin cwm 2.5 from jt
3 finger on first boot into cwm
Install adryn's ed01 debloat/debing
Install imnuts -100 voodoo
Installed latest su zip pack (probably not needed)
Booted up, voodoo conversion
Then rebooted back to recovery, which is now 3.x after installing imnuts, installed following:
Sbrissen's tsm mod package
The shortlight package
Rebooted, all done.
Great battery life, runs great with launcherpro
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk
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That's exactly where I ended up before trying the miuiwiz rom... For some reason that I've yet to identify, I'm getting better battery life on miuiwiz. Launcher Pro, perhaps?
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bmeek said:
That's exactly where I ended up before trying the miuiwiz rom... For some reason that I've yet to identify, I'm getting better battery life on miuiwiz. Launcher Pro, perhaps?
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Personally I like my scrollable widgets way to much to do miui.
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lord dredd said:
Thats awesome, how long hVe u been using it?
Also I actually want things as stock as poasible without the bloat.
Anything else u feel would be like that?
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Just leave off my last two steps and its about as stock as you can get.
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dnoyeb said:
Just leave off my last two steps and its about as stock as you can get.
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actually updating is gonna be an issue ;P
i am using the handset in India and have added Indian operator's settings in it so update via SETTINGS>ABOUT PHONE >SYSTEM UPDATES aint possible
so practically no way to flash the ed03 i guess
ED01 is not gonna be any issue as i can go back to dl09 eclair of adreyn anytime and then update to ed01 stock through his EA28 and ED01 updates.
after that ed03 ?????? i donno from where and how
if you have any other way of accomplishing all ur stuff then pl help
regards
dnoyeb said:
I ended up in going back to pure stock via odin. Then did the ota updates to ed03. From there did the following:
Odin cwm 2.5 from jt
3 finger on first boot into cwm
Install adryn's ed01 debloat/debing
Install imnuts -100 voodoo
Installed latest su zip pack (probably not needed)
Booted up, voodoo conversion
Then rebooted back to recovery, which is now 3.x after installing imnuts, installed following:
Sbrissen's tsm mod package
The shortlight package
Rebooted, all done.
Great battery life, runs great with launcherpro
Do you have the link to Sbrissen's TSM mod package? And, what is the shortlight package? Thanx!
Do you have the link for Sbrissen's TSM mod? And, what is the shortlight package? Thanx.
Sent from my SCH-I500
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dnoyeb said:
Personally I like my scrollable widgets way to much to do miui.
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then install aluncher pro on miui
come on folks
just help me out here find a debloated ed01 ( without verizon crap ) and the method to update from evil fascination 3.5.x to it
regards
lord dredd said:
come on folks
just help me out here find a debloated ed01 ( without verizon crap ) and the method to update from evil fascination 3.5.x to it
regards
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What more do you want than dnoyeb's instructions? It doesn't get more simple than that.
landshark68 said:
What more do you want than dnoyeb's instructions? It doesn't get more simple than that.
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ok i am gonna try this out , but as i mentioned earlier i cant do OTA to ed03 as the handset is being used in India with indian operator settings
what i am gonna do is i ll update to ed01 as has been advised by adreyn ( that is stock dl09 then ea28 and then ed01)
after that i ll follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097355
and update the radio to ed03
is that alright ???
and if thats right then i ll follow the further instructions .
regards
EDIT 1 :
ok i couldnt wait for the replies to my post here and my Pms to you good guys as i have to go so i did the following
updated to Ed01 thru this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044474
then flashed the full Odin package of ed03 by imnut
then followed the process told by dnoyeb here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14034421&postcount=2
at boot time verizon and android both were flashing but i still waited so now the system is fully booted
and i am gonna use it now
but the thing is the baseband and everything showz ed01 and not ed03 ???
regards
lord dredd said:
ok i am gonna try this out , but as i mentioned earlier i cant do OTA to ed03 as the handset is being used in India with indian operator settings
what i am gonna do is i ll update to ed01 as has been advised by adreyn ( that is stock dl09 then ea28 and then ed01)
after that i ll follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097355
and update the radio to ed03
is that alright ???
and if thats right then i ll follow the further instructions .
regards
EDIT 1 :
ok i couldnt wait for the replies to my post here and my Pms to you good guys as i have to go so i did the following
updated to Ed01 thru this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044474
then flashed the full Odin package of ed03 by imnut
then followed the process told by dnoyeb here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14034421&postcount=2
at boot time verizon and android both were flashing but i still waited so now the system is fully booted
and i am gonna use it now
but the thing is the baseband and everything showz ed01 and not ed03 ???
regards
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If you followed the steps by dnoyeb, then you are correctly set up on a debloated/deodexed ED01 ROM. Your baseband is the modem/radio and would not have changed after you followed Adrynalyne's post to get to ED01 quickly. You flashed imnuts' ED03 ODIN package which would have given you the stock ED03 ROM and kernel, but not the ED03 modem so you were still at ED01 modem which is fine. Then you followed dneyob's steps to flash the ED01 Debloated/Deodexed ROM which would have changed you to the ED01 build from ED03 build. For all intents and purposes ED01 and ED03 are the same thing. ED03 simply added in a fix for those people who could not receive the ED01 OTA update. The verizon and android both flashing at the same time is just an overlapping boot animation that happened because as I recall you could not do a complete data wipe/factory reset for fear of losing the verizon network while you are in India. So other than that little quirk of the overlapping boot animations, you should be exactly where you wanted to end up - a debloated ED01 ROM and with imnuts' -100mv kernel you should see better battery life if your phone can handle the undervolting.
Congrats!
i guess i did exactly as you have outlined,
i am now gonna caliberate the battery and will revert tomorrow about the backup and stuff
love ya
regards
when i first was learning how to root and flash, the thread for the evilfascination rom taught me everything i know. it does a great job in describing the steps to root and then flash the rom. i personally stuck with the evil fascination because its been so stable from the getgo and i love the overall theme of it. I kept getting peculiar bugs with comrom that i did not know enough yet to try and fix.
I suggest you go to the fascinate android development forum, and read the evil fascination thread.
I updated my post on the first page with links incase anyone else was looking at a quick rundown with links on how to get to a fully rooted / debinged / debloated type setup quickly.
Thanks a bunch matey.
God bless.
sent from my vzn fsc 1474 quadrant score
for what is worth it, i did OTA to ED03, then flashed CWM and installed SU package, from there i debloated it myself with root explorer, replaced the few apk for the apps i wanted AOSP, cant get any cleaner than that.
Snakehn said:
for what is worth it, i did OTA to ED03, then flashed CWM and installed SU package, from there i debloated it myself with root explorer, replaced the few apk for the apps i wanted AOSP, cant get any cleaner than that.
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so you mean u didnt go for debloated ed01 from adryn and not even the kernal ?
if yes then someday i might also wanna try this out, coz as and when i use 3G my battery drains like hell with the debloated setup as well.
would appreciate some more suggestions.
regards
with EA28 and ED04 + PBJ sv 531 kernal i get pretty much good backup and good 3g speeds too.
missed call was the issue which i am trying to solve with softlocker, seems to work
This is a recovery flashable, stock boot.img, pulled from freeza's stock rooted rom, located here. It's completely unchanged from stock, I just made it flashable. After flashing, You may, or may not have to modify your build.prop to set secure storage to "false." See freeza's thread here, for more info on this.
Use this at your own risk, I assume no responsibility.
NH7 Kernel: NH7
MD5: 610f8d02cea6f2c1641da926ae07a7c4
Very nice! Thank you sir.. :thumbup:
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LouRock said:
Very nice! Thank you sir.. :thumbup:
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No prob, glad it helps.
Awesome thank you so much
What would be the benefit Of this
busventinc said:
Awesome thank you so much
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You're welcome
uknow said:
What would be the benefit Of this
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Numerous, for example, it will allow you to return to the stock kernel, for troubleshooting purposes, if you expect an incompatibility, or issue with a custom kernel, without having to flash an entire stock rooted rom, or downloading an entire rom, just for the boot image.
By the way I want to thank you for this its a blessing we have ppl who do this for us with that said im a noob should I flash this I have the nh7 modem I flashed the nh7 stockish rom then I restored my backup for sacs moar rom
i flashed the baseband/modem and that loaded fine. i then tried to flash the kernel and get stuck in a boot loop even after i tried the file to set to false. what can i be doing wrong?
anth75 said:
i flashed the baseband/modem and that loaded fine. i then tried to flash the kernel and get stuck in a boot loop even after i tried the file to set to false. what can i be doing wrong?
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Can you provide more info. If you were in a bootloop, how did you set the file to false? Did you flash the fix, in freeza's OP? If so, that's likely the problem. That build.prop is for a previous version.
I did flash the fix. How else can I get the new modem flashed without bootlooping? My modem/baseband is NH7. Just can get the NH7 stock kernel on without looping
anth75 said:
I did flash the fix. How else can I get the new modem flashed without bootlooping? My modem/baseband is NH7. Just can get the NH7 stock kernel on without looping
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I'm not sure what the issue is, I haven't run into this yet. To be absolutely clear, are you flashing the wifi/secure storage fix, from freeza's thread?
Yes as I read it would fix the boot loop. I tried without it and had no luck either.
anth75 said:
Yes as I read it would fix the boot loop. I tried without it and had no luck either.
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That's the problem. That fix is fo MJ4. Also, what rom are you on? I'm not sure if the NH7 kernel, is compatible with NC5 roms. I know for a fact, NC5 kernels, are incompatible with NH7 roms (no display).
Your best bet is to Odin the NC7 tar, if you want all NC7, or Odin NC7, and restore your TWRP backup, of your previous rom. Your baseband, will be NH7, but your kernel will be whatever was included in your previous/preferred rom.
I'm on sacs rom. My baseband/modem is currently NH7 and have no problems
Im also on sacs rom and nh7 kernel want make it past samsung screen just a heads up keep a updates back up before trying this
uknow said:
Im also on sacs rom and nh7 kernel want make it past samsung screen just a heads up keep a updates back up before trying this
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Sacs rom is NC5 based. Use an NC5 compatible kernel.
LMMT said:
Sacs rom is NC5 based. Use an NC5 compatible kernel.
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Yeah I was reading your post and you said you wasn't sure so I check lol but anyways do you know where a stock nc5 kernel zip is?
uknow said:
Yeah I was reading your post and you said you wasn't sure so I check lol but anyways do you know where a stock nc5 kernel zip is?
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Yep, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51841373
leankernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46569112
There is also the great freeza's beastmode kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47338337