Has the Viewsonic Gtablet development become a standstill?
Thoughts?
Opinions?
No.... I believe not.
Now everyone's holding their breath for HC.
Here somewhere is a post about latest development (sorry can't find it now).
HC is already booting on G-tab. Hopefully devs will get everything they need to get it going.
Keep my fingers crossed!!!!
You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
thebadfrog said:
You have a cyanogen tag in your sig and yet you ask that? They are releasing nightlies at least once a week. As far as Honeycomb goes it may be booting but its completely worthless to use.
I think I'll keep my thoughts and opinions to myself as anything negative about the wonderous GTab is not tolerated here
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LMFAO, you can always talk about the "horrible viewing angle" everybody CAN agree on!
Kenfly, there is actual progress reported that I believe involves a dump of an ASUS Honeycomb box that has been ported to the Adam and there is a picture of it on a G-tab. I just read about actual WPA2 support too.
Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065220
The good news is, Roebeet has taken an interest too, so there are some VERY clever guys working on this!
Yes there is but it is completely unuseable at this point.
I was told the viewing angles are not horrible and to expressing my opinion of that as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064775
Follow that thread. Oozura is doing a great job keeping everyone up to date with cm nightlies and releases with bugs and bug fixes. They are making huge progress on major issues right now. It means at some point Gojimi will update VeganGinger as well.
If you follow that thread keep mashing that thanks button for him so people know there is interest and he keeps posting
I see it slowing down as more turn towards the newer tablets on the market. Updates wont be as frequent...
If you have it setup good now then you'll be ok. Its not like the internet, video or audio will stop working because of this.
kenfly said:
Has the Viewsonic Gtablet development become a standstill?
Thoughts?
Opinions?
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No?
Looks like tons of action to me - pershoot and others have delivered stable overclocked/undervolted kernels in the past week, and the CM7 team has cranked out two stable and about 10 nightly revs in the past week, going from "yes, it sorta works" to functional camera and some hardware acceleration for video playback.
What projects are you working on?
there are more forums to search than the ones here (hint)
There's a lot going on, in early (VERY EARLY) stages.
While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
If it all works out, it will definitely not be a quick release. Lots of testing would be needed, since the code being worked on is not "made" for the G-tablet.
The reason that it seems like development has halted, or at best, slowed down, is because nothing new is coming from the allmighty VS. Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
Only one person is building off VS firmware. Everyone else is using Google source and from the commits that Nvidia is making to git. VeganGinger and CM7 are under constant development and CM gets closer everyday to finalizing hardware acceleration. Vegan-Tab is froyo and based off vega firmware and has hardware acceleration as does TNTlite.
Depending on Notion Ink, the king of stretching the truth, for something is knuts
And yes there are some half ass non useful ports of Honeycomb posted on other sites. Nothing works. Its a honeycomb gui hacked into an old kernel
TJEvans said:
While some might believe that the Gtab is worthless, I would argue that the hardware itself is not at all. The company that put their name on it, and their "support" might very well be as worthless as a batteries to the Amish.
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Great analogy. =)
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There are experiments going on utilizing The Notion Ink Adam, and porting it's software to the G-tab. There's a rumor that they are getting an official GB update, and if portable to the G-tab, then we could essentially have an "official" GB Rom (including drivers from Nvidea), without VS needing to get their hands dirty. There are a few comparable (in hardware) tablets out there that are getting the support from their manufacturers that we would like to get from VS. If we can't get VS to update, then the next best thing is to borrow updates from other systems.
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The NI software release, if they do in fact follow through with something for once, will be utilizing the exact same GB-compatible drivers that we already have. We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia. =)
But you're right in implying that VS won't have to get their hands dirty. =)
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Nothing can be developed from the nothing that they are constantly providing. The only development that can be done is using existing Roms, and tweaking them. The bottom line, though, is that unless VS comes out with a GB Rom WITH hardware drivers, the current batch of custom Roms, Vegan-Tab, VeganGinger, CM7, TNT, etc. are dead in the water, and will never have hardware acceleration, since they are all based off of old code, that doesn't include it.
So, simple answer, there are developments that are ongoing, there are tweaks and fixes, possibly additions to some of the existing roms, but there will never be any development on new VS rom, until VS actually releases a new VS rom.
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Actually.... you're incorrect here. New development is being done completely independent of VS. It's called CyanogenMod-based and AOSP-based ROMs and they are completely different than those based on VS or NI-based ROMs which anything based on those are in fact MODs and tweaks. CM and AOSP ROMs are based on newer code and do include the foundation for hw acceleration.
So to summarize - development is not dead if you're not based on a locked bootloader and stock ROM from VS. If you're based on Google and nVidia then there is definitely development going on. It's all in what your base is.
We already have "official" GB ROMs with the same level of HW accel that anything from NI would come out with. We already have those drivers from nVidia.
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
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You'll have to excuse my ignorance on this issue, as all I've used so far is Vegan-Tab. I love it, it's stable, and I've not seen any inherent problems with it, so I figure, why change?
But, I thought that CM7 and VeganGinger had issues with video playback and 3d video acceleration, since Nvidea is "no longer going to support the Harmony Tegra 2 chipset." I don't know much about CM7, but from reading their website, and observing some of the experimental posts, it doesn't seem that they've been able to truly replicate the drivers that, I believe, Nvidea owes us. Nvidea said that they will provide support and updates if manufacturers requested it. As far as I know, Viewsonic only had one update since they made that statement, and it didn't include anything new from NVidea.
I had assumed that since this rumored NI GB update was official from the manufacturer, that they wouldn't have done it without getting official drivers from Nvidea.
I'm sorry, is there something I'm missing? I thought that it was a big deal that NVidea hasn't provided driver updates for true hardware acceleration, and that it can't be achieved without informaiton from them, and that they've decided ot no longer support...
it's a confusing world in the land of G-Tab.
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The rumored NI GB update is just that - rumor just like all the other NI rumors. We'll see what happens.
As to nVidia - the 3991 update that was later pulled from VS contained updated GB-compatible libs that were from the Gingerbread Ventana system image from nVidia. Those libs were (and still are) in CM7 and AOSP and VEGAn-TAB. Hacks and mods have been inserted to make CM7 work with them and hw accel is functioning much better after pershoot's kernel overclocking.
thank you for the clarification
Hey there,
I just exchanged my LG O2X to S2, and was wondering if you could recommend a good, stable, battery-efficient rom+kernel+whatever? I haven't found a thread like this so that's why I'm asking.
Is CM9 any good on S2, or should I stick to CM7? Or maybe Samsung ICS roms are the way to go?
Thanks in advance and have a great day : )
No. We don't recommend roms. For several reasons. Nobody has their phone setup the same as anyone else, nobody uses their phone in the same manner, and phones come out of the factory slightly differently component-wise.
You are very unlikely to have exactly the same experience with a given rom/kernel as me for those reasons.
I suggest you root your phone (if you haven't already), preferably with a method that installs CWM as part of the deal. Then you will be able to backup, restore & install roms or kernels within minutes. If you try a rom you don't like, it's easy to restore your previous setup & try another rom.
Edit to add - Also, many people on here who use a particular rom or kernel become utter fanboys, rendering any suggestions they give you useless due to their biases.
Ok, I get it - Could you just give me a quick intel on how's CM9 on S2 regarding what's working and what's not? That was a big issue on O2X due to nVidia not releasing Tegra2 drivers, and I can't find a thread listing working and not working features.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
Please just try the ROMs until you find one you like. Thanks
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First, I am not asking "What is or will be the best ROM for me" because I know the answer already (read, test drive, and choose for yourself).
My question is more: If you've come here from having one or more similar devices (like, say, the SG2), what were the more popular everyday ROMs or developers that you expect to be appearing here in the coming month(s)?
For example, if this were a HTCDesireIII forum, I'd be able to answer the question briefly
on the original Desire it seemed like the vast majority were using CM, Oxygen, LeeDroid, Gingervillain, or MIUI
or a bit longer
on the original Desire, according to a couple polls and my general impression from reading posts and sig-files, it seemed about 75% of the people were using CM (because it's CM), Oxygen (for the lack of bloat), MIUI (for the interface), Lee or Villain (for whatever their unique selling points) and the others never really took off in popularity for whatever reason (bugs, lack of updates, niche-interest).
I'm not averse to reading and test-driving, but I'd like to limit it to a few time-tested names first. So what are the names (ROMs or devs) to watch for based on the past?
I was expecting CheckROM EvoHD and now it's available! Best ROM I tried in SGSII and so far in SGSIII, WanamLite is pretty good also.
Hi all,
I am completely new at this, having taken a few HOURS to root my tablet yesterday. So - i'm now hoping to flash a custom ROM (I hope that's the right terminology) but am not sure whether there are any available for the z2 tablet just yet. On the Cyanogen list on their website it doesn't appear there is one yet from them.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks
No custom ROM ATM.
Otherwise it would be listed in one of the subforums "Android Development" or "Original Android Development".
Don't know whether it's because the Z2 tablet doesn't sell well or because the latest firmware .402 which fixes some things just came out (and developers only now start working) - development for this device seems dead.
For me (and others) this is absolutely no problem, because (just as on the Tablet Z) the stock ROM + root + Xposed offers all one needs, and there is simply no need of a custom ROM. Admit it, mostly what a custom ROM offers is just some gimmickry, some cosmetic changes etc.
And you lose some of the good features the Sony stock ROM offers.
So stop worrying and be happy with your rooted stock device!
Thanks so much for the help. That's appreciated.
And yes - I will get on with enjoying the device. I don't know why they aren't selling well. They are completely awesome.
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For me (and others) this is absolutely no problem, because (just as on the Tablet Z) the stock ROM + root + Xposed offers all one needs, and there is simply no need of a custom ROM. Admit it, mostly what a custom ROM offers is just some gimmickry, some cosmetic changes etc.
And you lose some of the good features the Sony stock ROM offers.
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I think it is pretty pointless to post in every thread regarding custom roms how you don't need it (no offense).
There are people out there who prefer AOSP roms over manufacture ones, or even Roms like Cyanogen, Paranoid and so on.
Or in other words, what exactly of the Sony Stuff is so great? I'm new to Sony Roms, my other devices all run AOSP and i didn't found anything yet that was a great plus. Other than that, nothing wrong with your post.
It's simply that with Cyanogen or Paranoid, you have only very few features that can't also be implemented by Xposed mods; and most of them are just kind of cosmetic, they don't really add to the functionality or ergonomics of the device. And at the time certain features which rely on Sony software to utilize the hardware fully are lost.
For me this sounds like a pretty bad deal.