Hi all,
I've been reading as many threads on the internet (google is your friend) about the ability of the x10a to work on the AWS frequency band used by windmobile. Dispite some misinformation about this, the general consensus is that the x10a hardware does not have the radio enabled. It is not just a firmware setting.
Now, I've seen the thread about the disassembly of the x10 elsewhere on xda and I that made me remember the old Athlon CPU days when you could enable higher speeds and such using a jumper on the CPU. I looked at the specs for the Qualcomm radio linked in the same disassembly thread and it looked like the x10a processor could do everything that the x10i processor could, plus more. So, I'm wondering, could a simple jumper setting enable the AWS band on the x10a?
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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OK done some checking here and did not find a thread about this so I will ask.
I am not the most technical guy but I did manage to successfully unlock my rogers x10a and root it from the x10a to x10i. I was under the impression that if rooted to x10i I would be able to use this phone with Wind. The issue is that wind uses aws 1700/2100 frequency which I read that x10i supports and if rooted would enable those frequencies.
Most of what I have read has been mixed. Some claim they have their rogers x10a working on the wind network after rooting to x10i and some say it won't work.
For me it does not work. I put in my Wind sim card and all I can get is Wind Away and not Wind Home. I am not sure if the reason is it can't be done or I am missing a step somewhere. I know the apn setting but entering them and saving them made no difference.
I would just like to know if its possible and if anyone has been successful using there x10 with Wind?
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5 months, 1 week ago
Hey gmaronski,
As long as it supports the AWS 1700/2100 frequency it will work. By looking at the specs from www.gsmarena.com it appears that it should work. The mini and mini pro look like they would not though. Hope this helps.
Have a great day.
Gail, WIND Specialist
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I have this phone on Wind. There are two versions of this phone, x10a (Rogers) and x10i (rest of the world), and as long as you get an x10i, it will work on Wind.
Sorry bad news.
Wind operates on UMTS Band 4 which is known as AWS and operates 1700up / 2100 down. Don't be confused by the 2100 when looking at phone specs, this is a 1700 band. When 2100 is mentioned in phone specs it means Band 1 which is knows as IMT.
X10A supports Bands 1, 2, 5, 6 (2100, 1900, 850, 800)
X10I supports bands 1, 4, 8 (2100, 1700, 900)
Wind is soley band 4, so if you want to have Wind service you will need an X10I.
Changing firmware to X10I WILL NOT change your phone to x10i, this is determined by a hardware chip on the phone, changing software will not change this.
Thanks for the explanation
OK that seems logical to me. Its very confusing though when you read comments like this.
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Carrier:Windbasically the x10i is running on the bands of "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" and the x10a (north american version) is running on the bands of "HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800" now what you can do is flash an x10a with an x10i's firmware and vise versa and that firmware will activate the 1700 band on an x10a if you get what I mean. the radios are interchangeable on each models. for example i've got an x10i and flashed it to an x10a now i'm able to get 3G with Rogers rather than 3G on WIND with the 1700 band because now the phone is acting like its an x10a.
This guy is saying flashing the firmware activates the bands needed for wind. I wish people would know what they are talking about before they write these stupid comments.
X10a does not work with wind. Even if you flash a x10a with the x10i firmware. An x10a will not work with wind. Unless you physically change the antenna on the x10a with the x10i antenna.
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Yes I know from personal experience and Balur's and your comments reinforced it. I was only hoping I was wrong. Guess I will stay with fido for this Phone and Wind for my HTC.
Thanks for the comments.
it is possible to flash software and activate AWS.But I am not sure on X10
canuckken said:
OK that seems logical to me. Its very confusing though when you read comments like this.
Phone Collector Join Date:Aug 2009
Location:Edmonton
Posts:155
Carrier:Windbasically the x10i is running on the bands of "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" and the x10a (north american version) is running on the bands of "HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800" now what you can do is flash an x10a with an x10i's firmware and vise versa and that firmware will activate the 1700 band on an x10a if you get what I mean. the radios are interchangeable on each models. for example i've got an x10i and flashed it to an x10a now i'm able to get 3G with Rogers rather than 3G on WIND with the 1700 band because now the phone is acting like its an x10a.
This guy is saying flashing the firmware activates the bands needed for wind. I wish people would know what they are talking about before they write these stupid comments.
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I Have ersonally activated the Aws band on A NOTE ,Note 2, LG Optimus 2 and I will be trying it on a galaxy s3 I747m
canuckken said:
OK done some checking here and did not find a thread about this so I will ask.
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I have never heard of this working on a X10 but....
For the xperia ion if you SIM unlock it then flash the i version stock ftf, it unlocks bands blocked by att.
Maybe a SIM unlock is required.
Hi all
Thanks in advance for any help please provide links if possible. So I've finally stopped waiting for Nokia and then Nokia/Microsoft to get their act together and jumped on the android wagon. It seems android has everything I'm looking for (sync to outlook, office document viewing editing, etc not Garmin yet though).
Anyway I've been doing research on the Samsung galaxy s2 and found some discussion on the 3G modem/antenna being penta band. Is this true? If so can I get links, also how do you enable all the bands? Or can you enable those bands that pertain to the firmware and have to keep the other bands on the phone so if you need them you can flash.
Side question I played with a korean S2 and saw that it has NFC on the apps (out of the box). I'm pretty sure this is true but I'm having some doubts as the FAQ and some other forum member claim that no current S2 has this feature.
Thanks
It's quad band 3G. 850/900/1900/2100. It does not do 1700.
From Samsung.com:
Quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900
Quad band UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
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As for NFC, the I9100 does not have it. I'm not sure if any of the other Asian models (different model numbers too) have it or not.
I heard that the modem intel x626 gold is penta band (unconfirmed) that is in the galaxy s2. Also the tmobile version is coming out which has 1700mhz this might lead me to believe that it is penta band in hardware and only needs software.
Only the korean version of the s2 has NFC.
No other version has it as cell phone providers are thinking of releasing it attached to the sim card as soon as the technology has stabilized and is widely available in a number of countries.
here is some information about in this blog.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/netcom-shows-off-microsd-card-with-integrated-nfc-goodness-vide/
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the sd card sounds like a good idea as a aftermarket part but I thought I saw the SGS2 with NFC on ebay as the I9101. what would happen if I had to add extra memory to the phone?
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I emailed Brian Klug that did the review of the SGS2 on Anandtech.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/
It is one of the most in depth that I have seen but here is what he says about the SGS2 being penta band.
"XG-626 is compatible with more bands, however the limiting factor always is whether the device manufacturer has provided the power amps for those other bands, and in this case there aren't more."
I have a Rogers locked x10. I believe it operates on the 850/1900 frequencies. I was thinking of unlocking and switching to Wind Mobile which works on the 1700/2100 frequencies. From what I have read, I believe the T-mobile x10's already run on this frequency. Is this software or hardware related? Am I able to flash a file for the phone to use the needed frequencies?
I'm sure this has been asked before, however I dont think I am asking the right questions in the search.
Thanks for any help.
Cheers.
Tim
yes? no? Any answer?
No. Unless you have a torch and are really good at soldering electronics.
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Hallo, I bouth by mistake a 1900mhz TrueSmart and cant use 3g here in EU, so I was thinking maybe I can change the baseband freq to 2100mhz. I did abit of research and it seems that the MT6572/MT6166 is capable of running in both the 1900mhz and 2100mhz 3G-FDD baseband freq, but is it controlled by the firmware or does it use different pin's on the SoC, and if so can I rewire the pin's and the use the 2100mhz firmware ?
Hope someone can help me with this, thanks
Viperdk81
I'm also interested in the different models. Installing ROMs with the other baseband used to brick devices back in the bad old days of Windows Mobile, has that changed?
Rewiring is a definite no-go. The SOCs are a BGA package I think, meaning hundreds of solder balls under the chip where you can't see them.
Changing basebands has been done, the first US devices had EU antennas.
The result was not so good, the antennas are tuned for 1900/2100.
But 2G-EDGE is not so bad for the apps usable in the TS.
However, especially city coverage and some operators, are 3G only...
Hello,
I have the F600S, Korean (SK Telecom) version and I live in Estonia. My V10 has 850mhz, but no 800. Our carriers use 800mhz and no 850 :/
I have reception everywhere, like really good, but out of populated areas, I have very poor mobile data speed and it's almost always on GPRS and I think it's because of the 800mhz support.
I'm asking this because I have read a lot of contradicting info. Some say it's just locked software-wize, due to carriers and that all phones have the same radio. So is it like this? Would it be possible for me to unlock 800mhz on my V10?
I know that this might be a general question towards all phones, but as I've understood, it could be different on different models.
Any help would be appreciated! I hope the answer won't be just "no"
Nothing?
Do the following test (no risk involved):
Enter 277634#*# on your num pad, then select Field Test, Modem Settings, LTE Band Selection and then check what happens if you press BAND 20 (success or fail?). If it is success, then there could be the possibility to unlock band 20 on a H901.
Read further here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/guide-enabling-lte-bands-t3137818
and possibly, in the future, there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/check-hidden-lte-bands-t3240398
Thanks, but I have the Korean F600S version and nothing comes up with that number/code...