I recently got the BackBeat 903 as a replacement for my previous bt headset, and it works great for calls, however, when I tried listening to music the playback experience is not as good. The music plays just fine, but as soon as I move the phone, or if I turn the screen off the playback starts becoming choppy, as if the audio player (I tried several, and they all do the same) would loose CPU time and control to the G-Sensor or something, and then when I stop moving it around the playback resumes. Anybody had the same problem? Thanks for your help!
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I recently got the BackBeat 903 as a replacement for my previous bt headset, and it works great for calls, however, when I tried listening to music the playback experience is not as good. The music plays just fine, but as soon as I move the phone, or if I turn the screen off the playback starts becoming choppy, as if the audio player (I tried several, and they all do the same) would loose CPU time and control to the G-Sensor or something, and then when I stop moving it around the playback resumes. Anybody had the same problem? Thanks for your help!
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Hey there benitton, I have the same headset, and experience the exact same issue...intermittent skipping, as if the handset was bogging down for different reasons.
However, I'm firmly of the opinion that the issue is with the phone and the sub-par bluetooth stack in it, not with the headset itself. I haven't tried other BT stereo headsets with this phone, but I've used the backbeats with other devices, and didn't have the same issue at all.
Unfortunately, I haven't yet found any source or method for replacing the BT stack in the TP2, we may just be stuck with this one for good
Have you used any other stereo BT headsets with your TP2? If so, did you notice the same symptoms at all? (<----- that's a question for anybody, not just the OP)
Unfortunately I have not found any other headset that I would like to use, and as you mention, it seems that no matter which one we could use we'll have the same problem. I am trying to see if there is any way we can run any audio player in exclusive mode, maybe that could help a little bit, but since the BT stack is part the system, I guess it will still have problems. I tried disabling the G-Sensor, but I was not able to fully disable it, so I still had problems with the audio, but not as much as when it is fully enabled. I will keep trying to find something, and any suggestions you might have would be wonderful. Thank you!
hey guys.. i was planning to buy this one.. seeing this post.. i just cancelled my order...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320508090475
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do you guys think same will happen with this one also??
depakjan said:
hey guys.. i was planning to buy this one.. seeing this post.. i just cancelled my order...
do you guys think same will happen with this one also??
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I honestly haven't tried any other BT stereo headsets with the TP2, so I can't say for sure...but honestly for $12 I might just pick up that motorola to give it a shot and see.
But...I'm sure there's others here who have used that same model, or even different ones, who could comment on whether they've seen the same issues...
I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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Yeah I really should have bought the 906's instead...because now I can't find the adapter sold separately anywhere, and I already have a number of uses for it
Now when I have the issue, I usually have nothing running but the media player itself (I've had the issue with several different ones as well). However, after re-reading the OP's notes, they do bring up a good point...I've got my g-sensor set to work with manila too, so that might contribute to the issue, but it's intermittent enough that I can't tell yet whether turning the sensor off made any difference.
It also occured to me this morning that it might be related to the commonly-felt lag whenever the SMS module is engaged (like when receiving an SMS)...again, since not every SMS msg seems to affect the performance exactly the same, it'll be a little while 'till I can tell for sure.
While we wait for any other suggestions, those might be things for benniton to take a look at too
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Yeah I really should have bought the 906's instead...because now I can't find the adapter sold separately anywhere, and I already have a number of uses for it
Now when I have the issue, I usually have nothing running but the media player itself (I've had the issue with several different ones as well). However, after re-reading the OP's notes, they do bring up a good point...I've got my g-sensor set to work with manila too, so that might contribute to the issue, but it's intermittent enough that I can't tell yet whether turning the sensor off made any difference.
It also occured to me this morning that it might be related to the commonly-felt lag whenever the SMS module is engaged (like when receiving an SMS)...again, since not every SMS msg seems to affect the performance exactly the same, it'll be a little while 'till I can tell for sure.
While we wait for any other suggestions, those might be things for benniton to take a look at too
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Interesting. I'm not using the g sensor for pretty much anything - usually when I'm using the 906s it's while running so my handset's got Endomondo, S2P, S2U2, and sometimes pocket outlook open. I've noticed it breaks up a little if i have my phone in the opposite pocket from the left earphone (so right pocket) but it doesn't stutter exactly, just drops in quality. left pocket is fine though. it's always been fine in a belt case.
Before S2P had working AVRCP on the Pro2 I was using the Music tab built into Manila and didn't have any lag issues with that either. Though, I just thought of this - wifi interference? BT and wifi use the same frequency bands and watching youtube videos over wifi has definitely induced a headphone stutter for me in the past. I got around it by letting the video cache first and then playing.
Problem disconnecting calls
Hey fellas...
I got the Plantronics Backbeat 903 for my Touch Pro 2. I really like the headset but I'm having a problem with it not disconnecting a call when I click the phone button on it to hang up.
It will always pick up the call when I click the button to answer but it will only sucessfully hang up the call maybe 1 out of 5 or six times.
Are any of you experiencing the same issue?
I had a Sprint Touch and bluetooth worked great with S9 headset. Then I got a Diamond and headset was horrible, lots of cut-outs, tried all kinds of things to no avail. Also got a Jabra BT2010, same problem with Diamond. Now I have the Touch Pro 2, Sprint, WM6.1 and Jabra works great with S2P, Resco Radio, StreamCenter and Slacker radio. Haven't tried with S9 because it died, battery won't hold charge, before I got the TP2. Just thought I would share my experience.
Was the quality good streaming with the TP2 Bluetooth or using the adaptor?
Can I ask what case you use with the TP2 when running? I would like this set up but don't want to risk damage to the phone through swear or rain. Does the TP2 fit in a iPhone armband?
Edit: Just found this thread for anyone else after an armband:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571536
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I have the backbeat 906 (it's a 903 with the headphone jack adapter in the box) and haven't had stutter problems using a Touch Pro 2, T-Mobile version, with the stock 6.5 ROM and S2P/S2U2. The audio quality has been great and I use the thing while running so it's obviously moving constantly. What software are you running on your phone that might be eating CPU?
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Was the quality good streaming with the TP2 Bluetooth or using the adaptor?
Can I ask what case you use with the TP2 when running? I would like this set up but don't want to risk damage to the phone through swear or rain. Does the TP2 fit in a iPhone armband?
Edit: Just found this thread for anyone else after an armband:
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Good with both the TP2 and the adaptor. I use S2P on the phone for my music app along with S2U2. As far as cases go, I just run with the phone in my pocket - I've run races in the rain and the phone's been entirely unaffected. Very solid hardware.
I used the BackBeat 903 with my iPhone 3G and experienced the constant breakup of signal whenever I tried to move around. If I was completely motionless, it provided superb quality - but if I tried to slowly walk across the room - it would break up with a frequency that approximately matched every right step (the phone was in my right pocket).
I disabled the "shake to shuffle" feature, just to be sure.
I tried holding the phone right up by my shoulders while walking, yet the disruptions continued.
And now I have upgraded to an iPhone 4 - and the problem is worse, not better.
Are we sure this is an Apple problem and not a Plantronics problem? Either way, I can't use the 903 for its intended purpose - to listen while walking.
Very, very frustrated.
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I used the BackBeat 903 with my iPhone 3G and experienced the constant breakup of signal whenever I tried to move around. If I was completely motionless, it provided superb quality - but if I tried to slowly walk across the room - it would break up with a frequency that approximately matched every right step (the phone was in my right pocket).
I disabled the "shake to shuffle" feature, just to be sure.
I tried holding the phone right up by my shoulders while walking, yet the disruptions continued.
And now I have upgraded to an iPhone 4 - and the problem is worse, not better.
Are we sure this is an Apple problem and not a Plantronics problem? Either way, I can't use the 903 for its intended purpose - to listen while walking.
Very, very frustrated.
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I normally keep my phone in my left hand pocket when using the headphones - I believe the antenna is on the left side. I experienced poor performance with my phone on the right side of my body, but performance is typically good on the left. I've noticed that if I have a significant amount of metal between my head and the phone pocket (like, say, a handgun) the signal breaks up - my assumption is that whatever is in between the phone and the headset causes interference in the bluetooth connection. The best performance I've had has been my phone in the left side pocket of a pair of gym shorts, only wearing the shorts and a t-shirt. Also, for some reason my insulin pump doesn't seem to have enough metal in it to cause interference.
You have to make sure that your mobile phone is located on the left side of your body whole time, while you're using backbeat 903. It's in the manual hehehe. This will solve your problem. cheers.
Problem solved!!!
atleast for me ...I simply disabled the WIFI and poof the choppyness is gone and now plays without any distortion clear as a bell...hope this helps.
Of course I also used a registry editor to remove unwanted programs and clean out useless files.......... I think the problem lies with The 528MHz Qualcomm CPU with 288 megs of RAM.. I do not think it is sufficient enough to run all things at once...I would suggest to remove any and all unnecessary programs/files, then disable all which can be enabled when needed....good luck.
Hi there....
i got my hd2 recently and lovin each sec of it...
One prob though...
the standard headphones are crap... i hate them
i travel a lot in my car and keep my phone connected to my stereo... when a call comes i can hear the audio... but since its a normal jack... there is no option for the microphone to work.. let me explain.... with the car stereo jack connectd... i cannot use the mic.. ...
Is there a way to use the normal mic of my HD2 while i have standard headphones connected???
Please help me out.... i drive in alot of traffic and cannot disconnect my phone all the time and answer calls....
I asked this very same question recently, and got no replies
Hopefully you get some, and helps us both out!!
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I asked this very same question recently, and got no replies
Hopefully you get some, and helps us both out!!
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Lets hop so man...
To all the ppl out there.... help us out will ya....
Re: Help
Bumpity bump...
Pls guys... dont tell me none of you had this issue.....
help me out here ... i really need it .....
Hey,
I got mine sorted.
I bought something very similar to THIS
My one is slightly different. Only has one button on, which isn't going to get used anyway!
The above one would do the same I'd imagine.
Cost me £11 from Best Buys
Works an absolute treat. And sounds much better than my old iPhone.
Just need to run another cable from the adapter to the phone, and away you go!
Hmmm... that is a good solution for this....
But then again i think there was an HTC phone review where i saw this option pop out when u connect anything into the jack... lets see...
As for that .... ya that is a good option...
But lets hope someone comes along for another solution...
Ill have to check if something similar to that Jack is sold here in my country in India...
Thanks for the heads up man... appreciate it
wanted to post this as a seperate thread..also posted it as an answer to another nrelated thread where the question came up..
these are stereo headsets for music and calls...the ear bud options might work for you guys while driving:
I own 3 bluetooth headsets (yes i own every tecky geeky corny cool gadget I can find...usually I just test them out and sell them for a profit on ebay ).
I bought these Samsung SBH600 on woot during a one day sale for 55 bucks (shipping included) and you cant find them anywhere now (sorry...if you wait anywhere between a couple of months to a year woot may have them again..its one sale a day there). They are 30% passive noise canceling and really good quality. Can be used both for music and calls:
http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=14521
These also have a wire for a 3.5 mm jack so you can use for music only if you ran out of juice.
This is the amazon listing in case it ever become available again:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002CX03PA/sr=8-2-fkmr1/qid=1286355036/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1286355036&sr=8-2-fkmr1&seller=
For comparable ones you can find the previous model but i cant vouch for those:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SBH500-Bluetooth-Wireless-Headset/dp/B0016I6GUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=mobile&qid=1294670770&sr=8-1
You will have to check reviews and I do not think those have any noise cancelling properties. I think they also lack the 3.5 mm jack.
i also have the moto rockr headset:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001LXR0BW/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=1278548962&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B001EKQQ5S&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0D7YT72QD8CD9NMWYTKH
This one is more of a startreky kind of look like a backwords visor. They have earbuds and it hangs behind your head. Good quality and has volume control and answering calls etc. Does not have 3.5 mm jack so bluetooth is your only option or noise cancelling.
Finally I have the very first version of these sony bluetooth headsets which also have a little led display on them. They can connect to more than one device so you could have them connected to your ipod and phone together for example (I think the samsung has that too but I havent tested it out).
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B003DQ1DCM/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
Other options I do not own and cannot vouch for:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-S305-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B002BH3I9U/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1294671987&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-DRBT101-BLK-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B001QXDSMW/ref=sr_1_8?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1294671987&sr=1-8
hope this helps...its usually the stero headsets which will play music and then answer calls...the ear muff style is good for planes etc..the earbud style for driving and stuff...
Hello everyone,
My friend has a Sony Ericsson X10 and he loves it! His only problem is that he is suffering from what sounds like frequency loss when listening to music through his head phones which makes it sound quite echo like. I checked it out and I agree that there sounds like some loss, I studied sound in college so I know what loss in frequency sounds like. We put his SD card into my Galaxy S and it sounded fine. We played the music through his X10's speaker and it sounded fine. We both agree that it could be the audio driver being faulty or something similar, were both quite new to Android too so we don't know any cool jigs or mods that could help sort this out.
Any help would be most excellent!
Haven't noticed any frequency cutoffs yet.
Before I got my X10 I was using an Sony NWZ-A828 (Walkman), and it is really hard to notice a difference. Maybe your friend should try to re-flash his rom ?
DAC or Headphone Amp, maybe?
I'm not sure what the echo-sound you speak of is, but I have noticed that everything I listen to through headphones doesn't sound as good as on my iPod or FirePod. That leads me to believe that the DAC is probably not that great (not surprising, this is a phone, after all) or maybe the headphone amp is low-quality. Everything sounds muddier than usual. Also, I experience hiccups, but I think that's due to software problems.
How do things sound through stereo bluetooth, or some other digital connection? It might be the analog electronics at fault here.
today i did a small test.
I installed RMAA on my Notebook and connected the x10 to my Creative X-fi Go!.
I did the same with my Sony NWZ-A828
And here are the results:
(See the attached files)
The X-fi Go! only has got a microphone input, so the roll-off below 100Hz is almost normal
Thanks for your help, I will suggest that he try re-flashing his ROM, if nothing comes of that I will run RMAA onto my laptop and see if there is any problems with frequency loss or anything.
Thanks again!
Hi can anyone help?
When i connect my Galaxy S3 to my car stereo via ordinary 3.5 jack plug, the sound is generally fine but as soon as the cable is moved even slightly, the sound cuts out and is very 'on/off'. The cable has to be left EXACTLY in the same position otherwise the sound output is very unreliable! Ive tried the connections at both ends and these appear fine. Its happened before with older phones but I didn't expect it with a brand new Galaxy S3. Sounds stupid but i wondered if it was the quality of the cable itself. So if its not the connections i can't understand what the problem could be. If anyone can help or needs more information please reply to this post.
Thanks
Graemelister said:
Hi can anyone help?
When i connect my Galaxy S3 to my car stereo via ordinary 3.5 jack plug, the sound is generally fine but as soon as the cable is moved even slightly, the sound cuts out and is very 'on/off'. The cable has to be left EXACTLY in the same position otherwise the sound output is very unreliable! Ive tried the connections at both ends and these appear fine. Its happened before with older phones but I didn't expect it with a brand new Galaxy S3. Sounds stupid but i wondered if it was the quality of the cable itself. So if its not the connections i can't understand what the problem could be. If anyone can help or needs more information please reply to this post.
Thanks
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Problem is with cable. Bye new one. I have same problem with my s3, but i get new cable, and sound is great.
komraa said:
Problem is with cable. Bye new one. I have same problem with my s3, but i get new cable, and sound is great.
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I have had 3 or 4 cables over only 2 phones but this doesn't seem to have solved the problem. These are the £1.50 or so variety from Amazon. Should I look for something better quality or should these type generally be ok? Like I said im 90% sure its not the connections.
i bought the Phaiser BHS-730 because they seemed to have good reviews on amazon. i've been trying the at the gym a few times now. set up normally with the inline remote and i'm guessing bluetooh on the right music was so choppy. i swapped the tips which swapped the sides for the remote. this helped and works fine while running and normal arm position, but walking with my arm down it gets choppy again. i've searched out and seen lots of discussions that some people have this issue and others have headphones that are fine, but not a lot of details on the headphones that are fine. I've also tried pairing the watch to my jbl charge 3 speaker and within a 10 foot range i haven't had any choppy issues. does anyone know a pair of headphones that don't have the choppy issue?
tried a co-workers samsung circle gear and at work didn't notice any choppy playback. these do not seem ideal for working out and running however.
I had the same issue... I called Moto at apparently with something to do with certain Bluetooth chips on certain headphones... I did some research and read a lot of forums and settled on JBL reflect mini,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015...ct+mini+bt&dpPl=1&dpID=41YsKaRWUDL&ref=plSrch
I've had no issues whatsoever running or walking with these headphones paired to my Moto 360 sport.
i tried another co-workers beats powerbeats 2's and they seemed ok. i ended up going with the new powerbeats 3's and they've worked well so far. hopefully this will help others that have the same issue.
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I had the same issue... I called Moto at apparently with something to do with certain Bluetooth chips on certain headphones... I did some research and read a lot of forums and settled on JBL reflect mini,
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015...ct+mini+bt&dpPl=1&dpID=41YsKaRWUDL&ref=plSrch
I've had no issues whatsoever running or walking with these headphones paired to my Moto 360 sport.
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Do you have any more detail on what to look for when buying BT headphones? Which BT chips to avoid?
Thanks.
plemen said:
Do you have any more detail on what to look for when buying BT headphones? Which BT chips to avoid?
Thanks.
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Hello,
I bump this old thread to check if someone has other headphone names less expensive than the names suggested above.
I break headphone often so I don't want spend more than 100 euro for them.
Any name for headphones not disconnecting continuosly during a run session?