Write access on external storage - Gen8, Gen9, Gen10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good morning everyone,
I am not sure if it has been answered before, search didn't get me anywhere...
If i try to copy files from my sd card or my internal space to a usb-or hard drive (pluged in over usb) it refuses to obey my commands( ;-) )
I can read just fine but i can't write anything(nor can i create a directory)
I have tried the standard file explorer,astro and androzip.
I could try terminal but that wouldn't be a real sollution even if it would work
I have a 101 with .71 standard firmware....
Does it work with urukdroid?
Is there a sollution? (Different mount ?)
Thank you

What type of filesystem is on that hd?
I asume you have ntfs and that is readonly.

gbohm said:
Good morning everyone,
I am not sure if it has been answered before, search didn't get me anywhere...
If i try to copy files from my sd card or my internal space to a usb-or hard drive (pluged in over usb) it refuses to obey my commands( ;-) )
I can read just fine but i can't write anything(nor can i create a directory)
I have tried the standard file explorer,astro and androzip.
I could try terminal but that wouldn't be a real sollution even if it would work
I have a 101 with .71 standard firmware....
Does it work with urukdroid?
Is there a sollution? (Different mount ?)
Thank you
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I agree with the previous post, make sure the file system isn't NTFS, go for Fat32/vfat, and I am pretty sure that will solve your problem.

Oh yeah just missed that ntfs is a ms filesystem fat will not work i have very large files.....
I read somewhere that ntfs support is comming to android like with linux and mac.....
Thank u for ur answers...

Ntfs support is allready there, but readonly.
If you have big files and need windows access, use ext3, as there are windows drivers for that.

As mentioned, ext3 is your best option to go with.
Or just stick with read only and NTFS for files over 4gb.

yeah i am just looking into it i have quite some storage a whole reformat isn't an option right now.....
thank u all

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[SDCARD] Storing music etc on ext2/3/4 partition?

Hello! I've searched all over the internet about this but haven't found any usable information about this. I was thinking about storing music files etc on the ext partition on my SD-card. I've a 8GB sdcard with a 64MB swap, 1024MB FAT32 and rest of the space goes to an ext2 partition. The problem is, how do I acess the ext2 partition in the phone? I know it is placed in /system/sd. But it seems it is only the super-user who has access to this folder. Is it possible to symlink the folder to another place and make it accessible for the user?
Every info I find is about storing apps on the ext-partition, which works. But having 6GB space for apps feels very overkill. FAT32 seems to be quite limited to speed when copying files, and also it have size limit of files.
The easiest and most recommend way to solve your problems is to repartion your card to:
0M swap (no use for swap on hero)
512M ext2 (see below)
rest as FAT (over 7G for your music)
If you plan on having every single one of the apps on the market you can give the ext2 partition 1024MB, no need to give it any more. There are numerous problems that can arise from having larger ext2 partitions, just of the top of my mind if you do have more data on the ext2 partition larger than your FAT free space you can't do a nandroid backup, you'll end up storing too much stuff on the ext partition which is usually wiped on ROM update and replacement, and it is much harder to access these files, as opposed to the FAT partition which is can be mounted as a USB drive to your PC.
Finally note I said ext2, and not ext3/ext4 because Ext3/4 are journaling file systems which are NOT suited for flash devices. They also have much more CPU overhead then ext2. Finally not all ROMs/kernels support ext3/ext4 and for a good reason!
BTW, please post questions in the either the Q&A or general sections. This is the DEVELOPMENT fourm.
Good luck.
Thanks for your reply, and sorry for posting in the wrong forum, which is quite obvious when I see it now!
Moved to Q&A as not development
erasmux said:
The easiest and most recommend way to solve your problems is to repartion your card to:
0M swap (no use for swap on hero)
512M ext2 (see below)
rest as FAT (over 7G for your music)
If you plan on having every single one of the apps on the market you can give the ext2 partition 1024MB
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+1, Yeppers, wow a 6gb ext... That is some serious overkill,why?
Sent from my phone.
I was thinking to use the ext partition as a storage of music etc instead of the fat32 partition. The ext-partition is faster to copy files on, especially if you get a 32gb card and maybe you want to transfer big files. If I remember it right FAT32 table doesn't allow file-sizes more the 4GB, and it is also slower to copy to or from.
Any linux operating system should be able to read the ext partition on your sd card, or a program such as gparted is another thing to look into. Remember you can boot to linux without installing the operating system (boot from CD). Ubuntu or Knoppix is a good one to check out if you're new to it all.
Hehe, I think you did misunderstand my main question. The question is how to read the ext-partition directly from the phone with a file-manager (i.e. Astro File Manager). Not from a computer, from the phone, in the phone.
Vantskruv said:
Hehe, I think you did misunderstand my main question. The question is how to read the ext-partition directly from the phone with a file-manager (i.e. Astro File Manager). Not from a computer, from the phone, in the phone.
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O in that case you have no chance lol. AFAIK there isn't any program designed for this purpose.
Vantskruv said:
Hehe, I think you did misunderstand my main question. The question is how to read the ext-partition directly from the phone with a file-manager (i.e. Astro File Manager). Not from a computer, from the phone, in the phone.
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Well it depends where your ROM mounts it. I think most ROMs mount it to /system/sd, so you can use any file explorer with root permissions to browse there (i.e. ES File Explorer).

CWM - can't see SDCard (except under "Install zip from SDCard")

Weird,
Android says my SD card is corrupt and only offers to format it.
Windows says the same.
CWM doesn't, as far as I can see, see it either, EXCEPT when I ask it to install a zip from it... it can see everything on the SD card and installs successfully from it!
Problem is, I need to copy stuff from the card before reformatting it.
Any ideas on how I might do that?
P.S. Yes, it is definitely the SD card and not the internal one
P.P.S. Windows doesn't see the phone when connecting under CWM...should do though shouldn't it. Perhaps that's my problem..?
Thanks.
Are you rooted? If yes, maybe running e2fsck on the command-line will sufficiently recover it to be mounted.
Alternatively you can use Recuva under Windows to find and rescue the files you need, or chkdsk to attempt a repair.
Is it a Fat32 or exFat (Fat64) filesystem and is there any reason such as removing it without ejecting, that could have caused this?
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d4fseeker said:
Are you rooted? If yes, maybe running e2fsck on the command-line will sufficiently recover it to be mounted.
Alternatively you can use Recuva under Windows to find and rescue the files you need, or chkdsk to attempt a repair.
Is it a Fat32 or exFat (Fat64) filesystem and is there any reason such as removing it without ejecting, that could have caused this?
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Thanks for the prompt reply.
It is rooted, although I tried to install this e2fsck through CWM and it gave me generic errors. Not being a Linux man I wouldn't feel that comfy with stuff like that anyway though.
The card is exFAT so I think Chkdsk (Win7) won't fix anything IFAIK. Oh, Windows says the card isn't formatted though, so won't do anything.
Recuva is unable to determine the file system.
:-(
I installed CM9 from the card, which then couldn't read it (I didn't know CM9 didn't support exFAT), so I restored my previous backup from the Sammy rom so it would be back to normal. But when it booted up the first time post-restore, it said the card was corrupted.
The kernel is what defines whether a filesystem can be or can't be mounted since it includes the filesystem logic. So replacing the kernel always helps if a ROM cannot mount the filesystem.
(Except for special userland filesystem based on Fuse)
It sounds like the partition table got badly corrupted, either by software or hardware.
I'm sure it didn't give you the output "generic errors". We're here to help guide you through the process if you have not enough knowledge but you'll at least have to try. However I don't know how I managed to type e2fsck, since that one is for Ext2 filesystems which has nothing in common with Fat64. You'll have to use a computer to repair it...
After having plugged in the card, could you please go to the Start menu and type 'diskmgmt.msc', then hit ENTER.
Check if the removable disk is initialized and contains a partition (aswell as what the type of the partition is)
It probably shows an unitialized disk, a disk with a RAW partition or a disk without any partitions.
If that is the case, try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
You'll find a reference to a lot of other (free and paid) tools on this page: http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd in the Section "Recovery Tools"
Depending of what your data is worth to you, you'll want to get a bitwise backup of the content first so if you screw up during recovery nothing is really lost.
I wasn't being lazy, just keeping in mind how important the data is and how much effort it's worth expending.
The answer was 'not that important' and I ended up formatting it using the very brilliant fat32format.exe (after trying with Windows Pish 7).
It must have been pretty screwed as TestDisk found nothing of any value there at all. (It was RAW in Windows).
But the upshot is I now have a FAT32 formatted 64GB (hopefully, unless it's a dodgy one) SD card that will work on Sammy and AOSP roms.
Thanks for your time, d4f.

Formatting exfat to fat32

If you have been having issue with exfat card even after formatting it to fat32 this is probably the solution for you
The 64gb exfat card i have never worked on custom roms no matter what software i used to format it to fat32.
But finally it worked with this one software, Just make sure you follow the instruction correctly.
http://software-files-a.cnet.com/s/...&pid=12572695&psid=10863346&&fileName=epm.exe
First use easeus to delete the partion in 64 gb card.
then Click Start menu, select Run and enter diskmgmt.msc
You need to find the disk with unallocated space. Right click on it and select "New Partition" and follow these steps, clicking "Next"
Enter the maximum size for the Partition Size
Choose assign a drive letter. I used F:
Select "Do not Format this partition"
Click Finish
Now you have a drive letter, this is what we will pass to the formatter
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/download/fat32format.zip
Now download a copy of fat32format. Extract the EXE file to C:\
Click Start->Run and enter cmd (as admin)
type this - C:\fat32format f:
enter y to continue
Now the sd card should work on phone.
Source: http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm
Thanks to DroidGnome for linking me this site.
An easier alternative which doesn't require CMD or the use of multiple tools is HP Usb Format Utility:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
d4fseeker said:
An easier alternative which doesn't require CMD or the use of multiple tools is HP Usb Format Utility:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
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If it works then sure. i already used 3 recommended softwares all failed so i dont know if this will work.
Thanks for this guide
I always format and re-partition in Linux ...
I always format and re-partition in Linux ... and currently all my large microSD cards have been re-partitioned with the following layout:
- free space (4 MB on 32GB, 16 MB on 64GB - since that's how those came from factory )
- main partition (primary partition 1 - I format that as Fat32 in Linux but then I go to Win7 and re-format to exFat; exFat works perfectly in Android 4.x from Samsung (and good mods) and the CWM recovery from CrisKelo ROM can work just perfectly with exFat when doing backup/restore; other (even newer) CWM versions/alternatives might NOT be OK with exFAT or stuff over 32GB!
- 512 MB Linux swap (primary partition 2) - this gets mounted by special mods that give the kernel virtual memory
- free space at the end (at least 4 MB on 32GB, at least 16 MB on 64GB)!
The only drawback is that at this moment there is no program (on PC or phone) that can resize exFAT - so you need to reformat! That is in contrast to NTFS / FAT32 / ext2 / ext3 / ext4 - which can all be resized perfectly - and IMHO NTFS could be a better option that exFAT (for journaling, even if I do not write that much anyway), but unfortunately there is no serious support for it on CWM; ext3/ext4 could also be even better from the Linux standpoint (but not for the usual Windows user that might have problems reading it) - but again is (surprisingly) not so supported by either CWM nor most ROMs
Just got new Sandisk 64GB cards and was having a heck of a time getting them to play nice with Paranoid Android, this guide was simple, painless and most of all, effective. Thank you much for posting this information.
Works with cyanogenmod nightly 2013-02-17 and ubuntu
So I have tried it out and it worked.
omar300 said:
If you have been having issue with exfat card even after formatting it to fat32 this is probably the solution for you
The 64gb exfat card i have never worked on custom roms no matter what software i used to format it to fat32.
But finally it worked with this one software, Just make sure you follow the instruction correctly.
http://software-files-a.cnet.com/s/...&pid=12572695&psid=10863346&&fileName=epm.exe
Link seems broken.
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Thank you!! Was wondering what I had done wrong with a custom ROM not reading the 64Gb card I had, now it does: )
great to see i helped some people.
ok so software to erase partition is called EaseUS incase this link gets broken in future just google, if im late with reply again in future.
http://download.cnet.com/EaseUS-Partition-Master-Free-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html
Just wanted to say THANKS
I have been trying to get my 64GB working for days after install wicked rom 5.1 for my Samsung S4, noting worked till I found this post GREAT work and thanks so much!!!!
YOU RULE!
Thanks!! I have only been able to get my Scan Disk Ultra 64G card to work with Perseus kernel and would have to flash it to all Roms then use a hack to swap the internal to get it to work. It was a Pain in the ass and limited my Kernel usage. THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT A USEFUL POST!! Stick to this plan it works. I have yet to see any other solution. I been dealing with this problem since I had my Galaxy note2 almost a year now.
PS do not use that crappy HP USB format 2.2 whatever program some guy suggested a bunch of malwar garbage I cant get off my computer now THANKS BUDDY Crawl back under a rock which you came.
Thanks for the wonderful help everyone who got it working
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so which format type is better for some1 running stock rom on galaxy note 2..... with a 64g sandisk ultra..... its alrdy working without any particular format....worked with factory settings but right now d mmry card is acting up cos of d script I used 2 swap....am only guessing.... so is it better 2 format to ex fat or fat32?
mortallkombat said:
so which format type is better for some1 running stock rom on galaxy note 2..... with a 64g sandisk ultra..... its alrdy working without any particular format....worked with factory settings but right now d mmry card is acting up cos of d script I used 2 swap....am only guessing.... so is it better 2 format to ex fat or fat32?
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i have no idea the swap system, as stock, it already has driver for ex fat but since you changed some stuff it might have ruined that driver.
try your card on another phone with stock rom and same android version. if it works then you dont need to change sd card format, just reinstall ROM on your phone.
PhatNerd said:
Thanks!! I have only been able to get my Scan Disk Ultra 64G card to work with Perseus kernel and would have to flash it to all Roms then use a hack to swap the internal to get it to work. It was a Pain in the ass and limited my Kernel usage. THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT A USEFUL POST!! Stick to this plan it works. I have yet to see any other solution. I been dealing with this problem since I had my Galaxy note2 almost a year now.
PS do not use that crappy HP USB format 2.2 whatever program some guy suggested a bunch of malwar garbage I cant get off my computer now THANKS BUDDY Crawl back under a rock which you came.
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i know, that is reason i posted this. i tried about 10 software and then i found this weird way of doing it and it actually works.
all those fancy software dont do anything besides slowing computer down.
glad to know i was of some use

[Q] Filesysem problem

Hi! I've a huge problem...
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII, and i was moving some files to my internal sdcard with the mass storage funtion enabled. The problem became when i have to move a file of about 4,5 gb and i couldt because of the fat32 system. So i opened a cmd, convert the filesystem to ntfs, move the file and wow, the internal sdcard was gone.
I downloaded a ntfs mounter app to mount the internal sdcard in android and i can read it but the problem is that i cant read the partition in windows and theres no way to convert it :/
Sorry for my english, but does anyone have any idea to fix it? I searched the web and the forum but i couldnt find any solution, all the solutions was about mounting the sdcard and i dont want that, i wanna find a way to read that internal sdcard in windows :/
Thanks!
perhaps look for ADB
maty25 said:
Hi! I've a huge problem...
I have a Samsung Galaxy SII, and i was moving some files to my internal sdcard with the mass storage funtion enabled. The problem became when i have to move a file of about 4,5 gb and i couldt because of the fat32 system. So i opened a cmd, convert the filesystem to ntfs, move the file and wow, the internal sdcard was gone.
I downloaded a ntfs mounter app to mount the internal sdcard in android and i can read it but the problem is that i cant read the partition in windows and theres no way to convert it :/
Sorry for my english, but does anyone have any idea to fix it? I searched the web and the forum but i couldnt find any solution, all the solutions was about mounting the sdcard and i dont want that, i wanna find a way to read that internal sdcard in windows :/
Thanks!
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Hello maty 25
if you say it is the internal sd-card(the phone-owns memory) then you should take a look at the ADB(Android Debugging Bridge)-topics here on the XDA-forum. perhaps there is a way to handle your problem.
i believe there is a way to help you. just keep on searching. good luck!

Need Help regarding NTFS

Hello,
Greetings to All,
I'm having issue with NTFS file system. I've followed this following url
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426145
But yet when I insert my NTFS sd card it does not recognize it , cause I need to install BT on it and the file size is 4.9 GB with Fat32 does not support larger the 4 Gb . Please help me out.
Ive HTC jetstream honeycom with unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Regards
Net_Spy
The answer is...
Net_Spy said:
Hello,
Greetings to All,
I'm having issue with NTFS file system. I've followed this following url
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426145
But yet when I insert my NTFS sd card it does not recognize it , cause I need to install BT on it and the file size is 4.9 GB with Fat32 does not support larger the 4 Gb . Please help me out.
Ive HTC jetstream honeycom with unlocked bootloader and rooted.
Regards
Net_Spy
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Format the SD card on a linux box using the ext4 filesystem. You will be able to use large file sizes, and almost everything Android will be able to read it.
-Mike
mcapozzi said:
Format the SD card on a linux box using the ext4 filesystem. You will be able to use large file sizes, and almost everything Android will be able to read it.
-Mike
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Thank you for your kind response Mike. I've tried ext3 filesystem on sdcard but it does not work out indeed. I just want to make sure it will work on kernel-2.6.35-10 of dom customize kernel and CWMv5 recovery v5 . Do I need to install any extra app on my device for supporting that file system.
Regards
Net_Spy

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