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Is there anything new going on in the development side? I havent seen much in the Dev section. Does anyone want to share what new projects they are working on?
most evs have developed what they can from what's available. Until Viewsonic, Nvidea, USMerchants, Google, or any other entity release something that can drastically change the way we Gtab, then there won't be anything else to develop. They may tweak a few things here and there, fix bugs, etc. etc. but as far as something "new" it will have to depend on VS et al.
When VS released their 1.2 bootloader, as it's become known, Roebeet made some new(er) romss based on previous builds (TNT Lite, Vegan-Tab, CM7). They aren't really "new" just updated versions of existing roms, to accomodate the new bootloader. (they are posted at another forum site)
There have been a few Kernel updates as well, but none based on the 1.2 bootloader (that I know of)
So, basically, the development section will be a bit on the quiet side until the developers are given something substantial to work with. All the roms we are using are based on something that was provided by VS et al., so until they release something, then there will be nothing to work with, besides what already exists (ie, tweaks bug fixes, etc)
Slower changes is fine with me. For once, I'd like to use my gtab for more than a couple weeks without flashing a new rom or kernel.
I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
edgevision said:
I've been turning to the CM7 for dev, as there is a lot of work going on for the Gtab there. It's officially supported, runs pershoot's kernel, and gets regular updates.
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WOW!!!!! Where is the press release? I can't believe Viewsonic is supporting cyanogenmod. This could mean Honeycomb is in the near future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(yes, sarcasm intended)
Well that sucks. I thought someone would want to make a nicely themed ROM or continue to integrate new features into their ROMs. Vanilla ROMs are cool but sometimes its nice to see a pimped out ROM.
Several themes for roms out there. I was commenting on the officially supported
Oh ya, I dont think Viewsonic wants to support anything officially. Not even their own software let alone someone elses.
What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
Well you kinda have to decide which type of rom that you'd want to try to use. If you want the stock rom I recommend installing the Bali kernel...it's fixed a lot of issues and gives great speed and battery life which is what I'm using.
Hopefully, you have rooted your phone before doing anything.
Bali Kernel Rocks for Froyo.
You can even try CM7 or MIUI Gingerbread ROMs.
We stopped relying on Samsung ages ago for providing any further updates.
If you want the best experience from your phone, you're going to have to take risks. But its nothing since this phone is technically "brickproof". Try installing a ROM besides Froyo, like GB or maybe a ROM that's Froyo but with different themes and tweaks, I just can't use stock 2.2 anymore lol.
Stupid Samsung and TMobile don't give a rat's a$$ about our phones or the Lag, and once they announced there will be no GB release, many devs have disappeared (though there are some new ones who inherited phones showing up now too )
For your first custom ROM...I wouldn't go with GB - it's not for beginners.
For 2.2 without the lag and some extra tweaks, try Project V - but there are lots of great ROMs out there that will help you ditch the Lag + a whole lot more. I know people who are still running Nero and Axura without problems - so you can probably just find a rom - look at the release date, and start reading the forum posts after that date. There's plenty in the noob stickies about how to root, most ROMs still provide install instructions.
Though - there are things like update of the Market, etc. - that you will need to allow extra time for during your "settling" periods...
i agree with the poster above, root your device and flash the bali 1.8.6 capped kernel. that'll convert your file system to ext4 and you'll be rocking. no need for the custom roms unless you're really adventurous.
While there is no need for custom roms I still think that you should try bionix 1.3.1 or project-v by edt both froyo roms to get a taste of what we in the vibrant community have and appreciate everyday
Bionix 1.3.1 has countless themes and project-v is by far imho the best 2.2 rom with the best speed and battery life and its always been what I fall back on when gb gives me problems. Also flash the trigger theme with it, it'll look better and bali kernel for battery
stevec5375 said:
What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
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Wow, like 10 replies and not one person mentioned this was in the wrong forum? Ha,nice.
Root, install CWM, install Project V.
N_B said:
Stupid Samsung and TMobile don't give a rat's a$$ about our phones or the Lag, and once they announced there will be no GB release, many devs have disappeared (though there are some new ones who inherited phones showing up now too )
For your first custom ROM...I wouldn't go with GB - it's not for beginners.
For 2.2 without the lag and some extra tweaks, try Project V - but there are lots of great ROMs out there that will help you ditch the Lag + a whole lot more. I know people who are still running Nero and Axura without problems - so you can probably just find a rom - look at the release date, and start reading the forum posts after that date. There's plenty in the noob stickies about how to root, most ROMs still provide install instructions.
Though - there are things like update of the Market, etc. - that you will need to allow extra time for during your "settling" periods...
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When did they announce there would be no more updates for the Vibrant. I don't remember hearing anything about that. I've given up hope that there will be, but I haven't heard anything officially.
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For a first rom I would suggest something form sombionix. He was the best dev ever on this platform, and the roms are pretty much stupid proof, and more reliable than stock. anything from nero v3 to bionix 1.3 are all solid. You just need to take the way back machine and look as far back as 2009 to find them. Though his last rom thread keeps getting bumped as its just amazing and everyone keeps using it.
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When did they announce there would be no more updates for the Vibrant. I don't remember hearing anything about that. I've given up hope that there will be, but I haven't heard anything officially.
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Well...since I only have it based on what I've seen/heard here, I should rephrase:
"Once whatever event, whether official or otherwise, occurred that caused some devs and other XDA members to commonly believe that there won't ever be an official GB release for the Vibrant..."
If you wanna stay on Froyo go for Trigger 3.3, it's perfection.
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What advanced knowledge of this platform, I find digging thru this forum an impossibility. I have a Samsung Vibrant with stock FroYo 2.2 and am suffering terrible lag. It's beyond me why this is allowed to continue by the vendor.
So if I want a new ROM and/or Kernel to fix the major lag problem, I'm left wondering which is the best.
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First off wrong place to be posting this. It belongs in the Q&A thread. Personal pref. but i would go with stable cm7 with the latest HL Glitch kernel.
Link to stable cm7
Link to Glitch kernel
Rom's
take a look at the Vibrant Bible:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991267
you will find links and all kind of good and useful information about this fantastic phone.
I flash a rom almost every other day and in my honest opinion bionix roms are the most stable and perfect daily driver roms period! Make sure you educate yourself before doing anything and also have the nescesary software to save your ass in case you F-up.
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If you wanna stay on Froyo go for Trigger 3.3, it's perfection.
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Trigger 3.3 or did it come out of beta?
I'll preface my post by stating that I'm fairly certain that no stable ROMs yet exist for this device; the only thing I've seen anyone running is CM7, and that still appears to be in development for the E-739.
That said, I'm coming to this phone (temporarily) from an HTC Sensation, which I love dearly. Going back to Gingerbread from a stable ICS ROM is frustrating, to say the least. The interface feels very dated, and I'm not a fan of the dock that LG implemented for the device. I'd like to be able to select which applications are in the dock, as with ICS. Ideally, I'd like to find a compatible ICS ROM. Based on hours of searching, one doesn't exist, but it can't hurt to ask.
So: has anyone had any success getting an ICS ROM on the LG E-739? Or perhaps a passable Gingerbread ROM? I really just need to rid myself of the ludicrous amount of bloatware that currently inhabits my applications folder... Thanks in advance!
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I'll preface my post by stating that I'm fairly certain that no stable ROMs yet exist for this device; the only thing I've seen anyone running is CM7, and that still appears to be in development for the E-739.
That said, I'm coming to this phone (temporarily) from an HTC Sensation, which I love dearly. Going back to Gingerbread from a stable ICS ROM is frustrating, to say the least. The interface feels very dated, and I'm not a fan of the dock that LG implemented for the device. I'd like to be able to select which applications are in the dock, as with ICS. Ideally, I'd like to find a compatible ICS ROM. Based on hours of searching, one doesn't exist, but it can't hurt to ask.
So: has anyone had any success getting an ICS ROM on the LG E-739? Or perhaps a passable Gingerbread ROM? I really just need to rid myself of the ludicrous amount of bloatware that currently inhabits my applications folder... Thanks in advance!
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hey man im running cm7 rc3 on e739 and everything is nice out has all the options you mentioned as long as you switch to a different launcher also I saw they just put up a stable cm7 for us too and an rc for cm9 "ics" but i havnt tried it yet.
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We have cm9. And we're working on aokp and miuiv4. Check out the forum abbot a forum section coming soon
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I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
Take cars for example. Some people like to leave it stock. Some might like to increase its performance and add engine modifications. Some might like it to handle the roads better so they might upgrade its suspension. Others might like to change its appearance and paint it and add body-kits. Is one car better than the other? Depends on who you ask.
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I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases. They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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gsrrr said:
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope. .
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not taste/opinion in the fact(from their history) that the coding is a mess. and broken everywhere.
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
If you want the AT&T firmware at least wait for somebody to post a debloated version since your going to disable them anyways or actually learn how to do it yourself. Since you have access to the forum with so much information.
Maybe take it 1 step further and grab the AT&T firmware and customize it to your liking, you don't even have to post it just use it.
This isn't a great thread cause Versus threads go nowhere...
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This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases.
They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
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No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste.
Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
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I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
task650 said:
Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
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I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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Go to the dev section, pick a random rom thread and look at the features.
That is just an example of what is beneficial.
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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There are many different things. Mods add to the functionality of the phone. Take the 14 toggle mod for instance, no need to enter settings to change common things. Skip tracks with volume buttons. You can also increase battery life with various kernels by UV/uc. It allows you to make your phone function and do what you want it to. The stock firmware is too limiting in this ability
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Harry_Y said:
I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
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Of course there is an increase in functionality or else why would devs create custom ROMs. What each ROM has that differs from others are listed in their respective threads. Check it out and see if any interest you. If you are satisfied with stock, stay stock. Not a big deal.
LiLChris06 said:
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
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Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
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AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
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Thank you for a very clear explanation.
raduque said:
Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
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you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
I got board enough to try the full LE5 including kernel. So far better than D4 and previous ics. Tegrak works as it does on the 9100 base kernels so that tells me i777 is catching up or has caught up. Could be just odex, but all benchmarks higher than on any of the aokp or 9100 sammy roms I've tried.
I'd like to see someone customize this if it remains stable. I've added 15 toggle from other roms, but I jusy like having firmware meant for device.
I-777 UCLE5
Tegrak oc/uv 1.452 ghz
Stable & Fast
task650 said:
you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
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lol
I've been running Android devices and flashing firmwares since 2009.
I also haven't seen any of the bugs or issues mentioned on this forum. Doesn't mean they don't exist. The stock 2.3 rom that came with my GS2 from AT&T was amazingly, impressively stable compared to what came with my Vibrant, or even ANY of the community roms for it.
UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
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UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
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IMO, non issue.
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IMO, non issue.
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Yes, many would not care. Many would. Ask AT&T or Samsung, and they will probably say it is a feature.
I've read many forums and blogs regarding unofficial CM10/10.1 work on the Motorola Photon 4G. Most of what I read indicates existing ROM's from Th3Bill and others have issues with important features (wifi/data) and in some cases could even damage hardware.
Anybody have experience with the ROM below? If so, is it truly stable?
Anybody running Android 4.x on Photon 4G with most features working? What ROM and what works/doesn't?
As you can see, I am definitely n00b (nice video during registration by the way :laugh. I did search XDA and google first but I'm really just looking for an update from any users more than anything. I have 2.3.4 now and have rooted, on Ting 'carrier'. I already froze updater.apk to prevent an OTA update to 2.3.5 which I read will lock my bootloader and prevent any custom roms.
androidmodmarket.com/ModMarket/Listings/CMSnapShot-0x4D6F746F726F6C612050686F746F6E203447.html (can't href, n00b lockout)
CyanogenMOD SNAPSHOT - Motorola Photon 4G
Updated: 2013-03-04 17:59:49
Category: Stable
Device: sunfire
cm-10.1-20130304-EXPERIMENTAL-evita-M2.zip
Anything can damage your hardware.
Go and attempt the installation of ICS/JB and check if you keep GSM functionality. If not, just go back to stock, MAKING SURE IT IS 2.3.4, NOT 2.3.5, as many guides teach you to. Flash KDDI radio if in US, otherwise, don't bother.
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I've read many forums and blogs regarding unofficial CM10/10.1 work on the Motorola Photon 4G. Most of what I read indicates existing ROM's from Th3Bill and others have issues with important features (wifi/data) and in some cases could even damage hardware.
Anybody have experience with the ROM below? If so, is it truly stable?
Anybody running Android 4.x on Photon 4G with most features working? What ROM and what works/doesn't?
As you can see, I am definitely n00b (nice video during registration by the way :laugh. I did search XDA and google first but I'm really just looking for an update from any users more than anything. I have 2.3.4 now and have rooted, on Ting 'carrier'. I already froze updater.apk to prevent an OTA update to 2.3.5 which I read will lock my bootloader and prevent any custom roms.
androidmodmarket.com/ModMarket/Listings/CMSnapShot-0x4D6F746F726F6C612050686F746F6E203447.html (can't href, n00b lockout)
CyanogenMOD SNAPSHOT - Motorola Photon 4G
Updated: 2013-03-04 17:59:49
Category: Stable
Device: sunfire
cm-10.1-20130304-EXPERIMENTAL-evita-M2.zip
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Have you tried this?? Cybik had a great CM7 ROM; it'd be great if he got a few things working on CM10.1
The evita is the HTC one X.
cougarcougar said:
The evita is the HTC one X.
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I saw evita in the filename but device:sunfire is the Photon 4G. Not sure what it means if the filename and description don't match.
dwegiel, point taken. I don't have the time at the moment to attempt something this unfamiliar to me especially if I end up with radio problems. Since I'm on Ting (Sprint MVNO), do I need to worry about GSM and KDDI radio at all? Also, I'm absolutely certain I'm on 2.3.4 and I have already rooted.
I was hopeful some progress had been made on Android 4.0+ for Photon/Atrix but it seems the lack of Tegra drivers is either severely hampering development or may eventually kill development all together as these products age. Thanks for the replies and to the devs for their work thus far.
dpmanthei said:
I saw evita in the filename but device:sunfire is the Photon 4G. Not sure what it means if the filename and description don't match.
dwegiel, point taken. I don't have the time at the moment to attempt something this unfamiliar to me especially if I end up with radio problems. Since I'm on Ting (Sprint MVNO), do I need to worry about GSM and KDDI radio at all? Also, I'm absolutely certain I'm on 2.3.4 and I have already rooted.
I was hopeful some progress had been made on Android 4.0+ for Photon/Atrix but it seems the lack of Tegra drivers is either severely hampering development or may eventually kill development all together as these products age. Thanks for the replies and to the devs for their work thus far.
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There are a few jelly bean roms but yeah with the driver issue it hampers development
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Went to Joker's CM9
For those who land here wondering if I ever explored the cybik ROM above: No...and I won't be either.
Using various XDA threads I unlocked the bootloader, flashed clockworkmod, Installed Joker's CM9 (beta 0.8.1) unofficial, and found gapps-ICS-signed.zip on the interwebs and installed that. I kind of jacked up my phone by accident and found this was the better solution instead of trying to fix the stock GB.
For anyone looking to move from GB...I would recommend this. I've read a lot of threads about various issues in current CM10.1 for Photon so I was hesitant to try those. CM9 feels very similar to 10.1 and as far as performance the issues on CM9 I've found: MMS requires GoMMS Pro app, no camera video (stills are fine), Swiftkey "Flow" causes force-close, and battery life seems to have decreased from GB (despite downclocking to original 1Ghz).
Pretty much everything else works...Bluetooth, GPS, calls, SMS, Chrome browser. Despite my original concerns, this was clearly the way to go. Mods you're welcome to close this up.