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Updated my Mini to 2.1 from 4 days now-
Rooted using z4rot just to load setCPU.
2.1 in general is not so much different from 1.6, at least for normal user.
No significant performance improvement, no killer new functions. Just a "fine tuning work" in my opinion.
The bad come in just 2 areas.
1- Antenna reception.
Using 1.6 where I live I have a steady 3g network. Using 2.1 some time I discover that I'm under GPRS (i think the H icon mean GPRS, I'm voda so at least in Italy no EDGE network)
The antenna sensitivity is whorst than before...
2- Battery
Battery life is TERRIBLE using 1.6 I can go for an entire day (at least 8am-6pm)
Now in a few hours (4-5 not more) I have to recharge.
BT off, Wifi off.
Anyone experienced such decay of battery?
Can be the rooting process?
Any suggestion?
I have to try to switch off 3g but I dont like to use the slow GPRS so im not inclined in doing it1
H is HSPA which is 3G and others fast networks. If you had GPRS there would be G on your phone But i was confused too first time.
Battery seems same like before. I browse net, play games and listen music alot, so i need to recharge every night anyway. I'd guess some app eat it and maybe after some restarts it will settle. Synchronizing g-mail with phone ate alot of battery for me... but after a while its ok.
Ok, thanks for the H tips. So "H" is better that 3g!
Wow.
For battery life: yes I use google service so is always in sync
I think is one of the whorst design flaw of Android.
I like to be able to "open" sync in time I choose, for ex 10 min. in a windows of 30 min, ecc.
No software on the market do this automatically and ia polished way.
Can be set CPU causing more problem that the battery can save?
Disable Background data
Switch off Wifi Bt when not in need
then charge it when around 20% battaery
Doing this my battery life now is 2-3 days
Earlier with 1.6 it was 1 day max
wifi and bt are alredy off. background data?
turning that off is like to use a nokia of some years ago..
I depend on gmail etc.
intresting the tips of 20%, so you not charge at end of battery?
just when is arrived at 20%?
how it can have such effect?
with setcpu my battery now lasts for 20-24h, keeping minimal frequency at 122 and with ondemand scaling.
bt on for 2-3h, wifi on only when needed, sync always on but, the most important, only 2g. 3g uses a lot of your juice, use it only when needed. On 2g you still receiving emails and gtalk/tweets, and for an entire day. With 3g my battery lasts for 8h only.
ok, Ill give 2g a try.
Unfortunately Voda Italy has no EDGE at all...so if no 3g we are stuck using VERY VERY SLOW gprs.
i just use like 1:30 hrs of screen (on) AT 50%, i always use 2G network, background data conection like 2:00 Hrs, BT OFF, GPS OFF, WiFi OFF, All Syncronization OFF, some phone call (like 5 min per day), and i use set CPU to set the phone on demand between 122~600 MHz, with lucky i get 18 Hrs. of battery life...
Any advice?
wolframio74 said:
i just use like 1:30 hrs of screen (on) AT 50%, i always use 2G network, background data conection like 2:00 Hrs, BT OFF, GPS OFF, WiFi OFF, All Syncronization OFF, some phone call (like 5 min per day), and i use set CPU to set the phone on demand between 122~600 MHz, with lucky i get 18 Hrs. of battery life...
Any advice?
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I think 18 hours is Ok. Difference maybe is due to screen brightness; I use mine at 0%....
my battery last much longer with 2.1, i did a test, i put my phone in airplane mode overnight after charging it to 100%, unplugged the charger and went to sleep, checked it in the morning 8 hours later and it was STILL on 100%!
put it back to normal mode and the battery drains 1-2% per hour
Yeah,airplane mode is just the same with powering off,especially if you left it while you sleep dude...
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I keep background data off and Data Traffic disabled and get about 1.5 days battery life. However, in Airplane mode, after 2.1 update, I have observed battery drains faster than 1.6.
^^ Use the Indian Firmware dude
its much better than flashed ones
Also charge phone when around 20% to get max battery life
Background data ON, Data Traffic enabled, live wallpaper (circuit board), Opera and mail one hour, BT 1 hour WIFI OFF, 1-2 hour call and sometime more.
24 to 32 hour Battery life.
I use Juice Defender and Set CPU.Battery charge when around 10 - 20 %.
^^Thats great
Calling for 30min decreased my battery life by 15-17% :O
My mini reboots every time i plug the in to charge, i saw there are some ppl with the same problem but i cant find a fix.
i did install the Nordic build.prop but repaired my phone when the update for my side came out. Can that be the problem?
I find the only thing now that really drains my Battery fast is playing games (Angry birds will drain my Battery in about 2-3 hours) otherwise.. if I don't play games my Battery lasts about 2 days. (up to a max of 3 days)
(I listen to about 3-4 hours of Music (over BT) each day, have Wifi on all the time I am at home, and use just a little bit of 3G when I am out (but I turn it off when its not needed)
Don't drain the battery to 0% this is really bad for Lithium battery's better to do top ups... and use USB to charge rather than the wall charger (lower charge rate will give you longer performance)
Run Launcher Pro Home screen replacement (I think its better than the stock one)
some software can really drain the battery fast, it tends to vary from person to person but I installed Nimbuzz and my battery went down like a sinking ship.
hope that helps..
kimb0 said:
My mini reboots every time i plug the in to charge, i saw there are some ppl with the same problem but i cant find a fix.
i did install the Nordic build.prop but repaired my phone when the update for my side came out. Can that be the problem?
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When you say "Repaired your phone" you mean you put the build prop back to your old Kit code then Repaired with PC comp/SEUS? if you left the build.prop file as Nordic then you would probably still be on Nordic..
I ran nordic for a while and had no issues at all, then used Bin4ry's flash tool and a downloaded firmware to get my phone back to the correct Kit, I found it easier than playing with the build prop, its worth a try anyway..
kiwiBratwurst said:
When you say "Repaired your phone" you mean you put the build prop back to your old Kit code then Repaired with PC comp/SEUS? if you left the build.prop file as Nordic then you would probably still be on Nordic..
I ran nordic for a while and had no issues at all, then used Bin4ry's flash tool and a downloaded firmware to get my phone back to the correct Kit, I found it easier than playing with the build prop, its worth a try anyway..
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Ok let me try explain .. i changed the build.prop to get the update but it did not work for me. So i downloaded Bin4ry's flashtool and software a flashed 2.1 on my phone.
I am on world generic (bought the phone in UK unbranded), when the update was availeble via SEUS i just plugged it in and did a repair, still with the same build.prop i edited.
I presumed it got flashed away with the repair i did
with the flash from Bin4ry an the repair from SEUS i got this reboot bug, so now i have no idea what to do next.
How do i know what kit i am on?
raiderkilo said:
Background data ON, Data Traffic enabled, live wallpaper (circuit board), Opera and mail one hour, BT 1 hour WIFI OFF, 1-2 hour call and sometime more.
24 to 32 hour Battery life.
I use Juice Defender and Set CPU.Battery charge when around 10 - 20 %.
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what Launcher are u using? i realize (maybe) that i replace the default SE Launcher APK with the Helix APK and seem to be a better battery life (because SE Launcher and Helix dont start together now).
Hi Everyone,
I am disappointed with the battery of Optimus One.
My Battery in Standby (GPS/Wi-fi/3g/Sync/Screen, ALL OFF and without USE ), does not last even 20 hours.
I have an application that shows what application is consuming more battery power and the "phone in standby mode" takes up 95%!
What are your experiences with this battery?
Mine has problems?
Thx
I bought it one week ago and the battery last one day with no problem (and it's not at its full "potential" since is new). When did you buy the phone?
I bought it 2 weeks ago
Using a custom rom you won't be disappointed with your battery no more...
I have openOptimus Rom with Franco kernel 15. I am at 85% battery after 14 hours. The phone has been pretty much idle.
Only 2G networks
Data disabled
Wi-fi on
Auto-sync on
Overclocked 480/729 interactive (interactive may not be optimal)
I'm using franco kernel v15.1 with devoid.franco, i'll try do update do devoid.froyo.final today.
Explore3 said:
I have openOptimus Rom with Franco kernel 15. I am at 85% battery after 14 hours. The phone has been pretty much idle.
Only 2G networks
Data disabled
Wi-fi on
Auto-sync on
Overclocked 480/729 interactive (interactive may not be optimal)
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Hi, what is data disabled? and how to put only 2g networks?
20 hours on idling? Send it back for repair/replace. Mine will last days if left idling (about 1% every two hours)
When I travel I turn all data connections off (Bluetooth, wifi, gps, data) and it lasts about 3days
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Hi, what is data disabled? and how to put only 2g networks?
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Here are some potential things to turn off that might make the battery last longer. They are all in the settings app. I do not do all these since I find that some things might make the battery last longer but reduce the usefulness of the phone.
Setting/Display/Brightness
Setting/wireless & networks/wi-fi off
Setting/wireless & networks/bluetooth off*
Setting/wireless & networks/mobile networks/use only 2G networks*
Setting/wireless & networks/mobile networks/data enabled off* (I have this turned off all the time as I do not have a data plan.)
The items * I have off unless I am actively using them. I also overclock my Optimus. I think that this probably gives me a longer battery life, since it is running at 480 when I am not using it. I suppose if I was desperate, I would undercloack the phone (min 480 and max 480).
What version of Android are you running? 2.2 or 2.2.1/2.2.2?
When you click on Cell Standby, how much Time Without Signal does it show?
follow these steps and i think ull have what you want..
go to battery use and click on cell standby : then see time without signal. how much does it show ? if its above even one percent (unless uve mannually put ur device in airplane mode) i know the problem.
go to settings >wireless & network settings > mobile network > mark 2G only (if u are not using 3G) cause the cell might spen loads of battery searching for 3G.. then go to network operators and search for (mannually) and select ur own network provider.. like mine is airtel.. then let your battery run down totally.. completly to zero. then recharge your phone to full without any break.. this is called recaliberation. then see how much your battery lasts..
remember to turn off bletooth, wifi, internet, all ! while the phone is idle and you wont be using it for sometime. or, if you wont be doing or getting any calls or sms, consider switching to airplane mode..
you might be getting less battery if ur in a area with weak signal strength.. this makes the phone go wilder to search for signal. in these conditions, switch to airplane mode if you can . thatll save a lot of battery. and also during night if you want to.
dont hesitate to click the thanx if i helped !
EDIT: and ya every thing that the person after me 'Y.u.v.i' said.. though those are normal things and brightness level is most important..
and about francos kernel, ive had many f/c s with mik's cm7 beta 6.2.5 ..i prefer its own kernel , though dunno for other roms.. u might wanna try it.. ill try myself too..
yes ..few step here u can try
1.reduce ur brightness level to minimum ...
2. use 2g signal only.
3. turn off all extra connection like wi-fi , Bluetooth, auto sync , data.
4. use advance task killer and set it to auto kill app aftr every 30 mints.
5.automatic screen time to 30 sec.
6.if u r using custom ROM use Franco 15.1 kernal . and wipe battery after charging it up-to 100%
use thanks if u like my post ...
I did all the tips posted here. Let us now see what happens
sholimar said:
What version of Android are you running? 2.2 or 2.2.1/2.2.2?
When you click on Cell Standby, how much Time Without Signal does it show?
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I'm using 2.2
7% without signal.
Sorry for the dumb question (about 2.2 or 2.2.x) - I didn't read the first page carefully enough.
Try this: reboot, then enable airplane mode, lock your screen and leave it like that for about a minute, unlock screen, disable airplane mode.
Are you still seeing Time Without Signal? (of course, after a few hours, not straight away)
EDIT:
DON'T do any of the following:
- reduce brightness to 1%... come on, be serious! you really like squinting at the screen? screen brightness doesn't affect battery life that much anyway...
- don't use task killers! it doesn't matter if you have little RAM - it's there to be used. I will not go into details about this (there's whole threads about it), but trust me!
You could also try monitoring your apps with https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zomut.watchdoglite&feature=search_result and see if any of them start behaving wildly and keep your CPU awake.
Another thing would be to try Nessy Hypnos2... I had great battery life when using that ROM! If you're still experiencing the same battery drain with a fresh install of Hypnos, then I'm sorry to tell you but you'll probably have to send your phone for repairs.
I ended up recharging the phone two hours ago and it is at 91%.
Was 9% in 2 Hours - 4,5% per Hour. Very Bad...
...with nothing in use.
Only 2g networks
wi-fi/dates/sync/bluetooth ( ALL OFF )
Screen OFF (black, with -0% of brigth, because he is OFF)
I install Battery Monitor Widget that estimates my uses of battery in:
18h52m of Discharge (100->0%)
and 5h of charg in USB and 3h of charge inc AC.
I'm installing watchdog now, to see if have an App draining battery.
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But I do not think that's because I have an application that shows the the CPU clock in%.
480MHz = 80%
729Mh = 20% or less
and another that shows the applications that consume battery
and Cell Standby = 90%
sholimar said:
Sorry for the dumb question (about 2.2 or 2.2.x) - I didn't read the first page carefully enough.
Try this: reboot, then enable airplane mode, lock your screen and leave it like that for about a minute, unlock screen, disable airplane mode.
Are you still seeing Time Without Signal? (of course, after a few hours, not straight away)
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I tried and went back to get a signal instantly after turning off the airplane mode.
I'm not using task killers.
A question a little idiot.
What is the battery in your P500?
Mine is a :
LG Li-ion Battery 3.7V
LGIP-400N 1500mAh 5.6Wh
Made in China
Rynborg said:
A question a little idiot.
What is the battery in your P500?
Mine is a :
LG Li-ion Battery 3.7V
LGIP-400N 1500mAh 5.6Wh
Made in China
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I got the same. My phone is also on the same settings, same rom, same kernel. Battery life was awesome some days ago, but now I experience average battery drain, I think I need to callibrate my phone as well. :/ I will do it probably after flashing void.final.
Wanted to know from those getting 2 days out of the mini pro, what are your systems settings to make this possible.
1: I have my screen to less than 50%, can only still manage a day.
2: Do you guys turn off 3G HDSPA?
3: Does wifi use more or less battery than HDSPA?
4: Any of you using a blue tooth headset?
5: Any specific apps to kill?
6: Any special battery conditioning done? If so steps?
7: Do you guys have exchange e-mail on? push or pull?
The battery meter is showing more than 50% going to the screen.
Good that it seems I don't have an rouge apps and the wireless doesn't seem to take up too much battery, but a let down that I can't get more than a days worth of battery.
Found some decent battery recommendations here
Mike
Why are you trying to make your battery last 2 days? Do you not have access to a charger everynight?
Also I do not recommend you 'kill' any apps, due to the nature of Android. If you 'kill' an app, it's very likely it will just start up again, using more CPU cycles than if you just left it idle. This is especially an issue if you are using an auto-killer.
panamamike said:
Wanted to know from those getting 2 days out of the mini pro, what are your systems settings to make this possible.
1: I have my screen to less than 50%, can only still manage a day.
2: Do you guys turn off 3G HDSPA?
3: Does wifi use more or less battery than HDSPA?
4: Any of you using a blue tooth headset?
5: Any specific apps to kill?
6: Any special battery conditioning done? If so steps?
7: Do you guys have exchange e-mail on? push or pull?
The battery meter is showing more than 50% going to the screen.
Good that it seems I don't have an rouge apps and the wireless doesn't seem to take up too much battery, but a let down that I can't get more than a days worth of battery.
Found some decent battery recommendations here
Mike
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1. set 40%, add widget at front wall for fast switching (to 80%)
2. turn off mobile network (data), add widget at front wall for fast switching (to enable)
3. -
4. no
5. using system panel lite to clean and root uninstaller to remove apk at system app (currently memory at 230M-240M)
6. restart phone 3 time per day, use 1800mAh, charge phone when >5% energy, to 100% (45minutes), turn off while charging is more better.
7. no - exchange e-mail running at background processor (any unwanted background I will kill or remove; currently only 3 apps still running)
use dark theme/wallpaper for energy efficient (low brightness) and use earphone to listen music
=)
Why kill mem? Its there to be used. Free mem is useless mem.
The most drain=screen,wifi,gps,maps,bt
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r33p said:
Why kill mem? Its there to be used. Free mem is useless mem.
The most drain=screen,wifi,gps,maps,bt
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I noticed maps seems to stay on a lot. Anyone know how to make sure it stays off when not in use?
a-k-t-w said:
Why are you trying to make your battery last 2 days? Do you not have access to a charger everynight?
Also I do not recommend you 'kill' any apps, due to the nature of Android. If you 'kill' an app, it's very likely it will just start up again, using more CPU cycles than if you just left it idle. This is especially an issue if you are using an auto-killer.
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I'm not sure what value this message is supposed to provide. I've seen folks post that they can get 2 days or better out of the phone, if so what's wrong with wanting to do the same?
Also note that there are times when it's inconvenient to charge and I'd like to defer charging. I'm pretty much out of juice by end of day the work day, but would like to have a few more hours of battery left, having the phone on the charger all the time isn't always convenient.
Mike
panamamike said:
I'm not sure what value this message is supposed to provide. I've seen folks post that they can get 2 days or better out of the phone, if so what's wrong with wanting to do the same?
Also note that there are times when it's inconvenient to charge and I'd like to defer charging. I'm pretty much out of juice by end of day the work day, but would like to have a few more hours of battery left, having the phone on the charger all the time isn't always convenient.
Mike
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I understand if your phone is starting to go flat then you might want to start conserving battery, but if you have the ability to charge it then why not?
I agree with r33p. Using a task killer is possibly one of the worst things you can do to try and save battery. Using less memory does not save battery at all.
Also im not sure if this is true, but using a dark theme does not save battery as the backlight is still on, but screen is just 'hiding' it to create the black you see. So if anything it uses more battery.
I tend to keep a widget on my home screen to turn off data, wifi, and bluetooth. I turn them on when I need them, turn the off the rest of the time. As long as you aren't doing heavy internet browsing on your phone, you should be able to get two days use out of it.
Hopefully we'll get some custom roms for these things so I can justify rooting my phone. Then I'll uninstall all of the stock apps I don't want, both to clean up my app screen and to hopefully stop some of those background processes I don't need.
a-k-t-w said:
I understand if your phone is starting to go flat then you might want to start conserving battery, but if you have the ability to charge it then why not?
I agree with r33p. Using a task killer is possibly one of the worst things you can do to try and save battery. Using less memory does not save battery at all.
Also im not sure if this is true, but using a dark theme does not save battery as the backlight is still on, but screen is just 'hiding' it to create the black you see. So if anything it uses more battery.
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I must agree. Using a dark background does not save battery. That only works for oled or amoled based screen like the galaxy s series. Also they're right, don't use a task killer. Terminating apps just consumes more battery.
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panamamike said:
Wanted to know from those getting 2 days out of the mini pro, what are your systems settings to make this possible.
1: I have my screen to less than 50%, can only still manage a day.
2: Do you guys turn off 3G HDSPA?
3: Does wifi use more or less battery than HDSPA?
4: Any of you using a blue tooth headset?
5: Any specific apps to kill?
6: Any special battery conditioning done? If so steps?
7: Do you guys have exchange e-mail on? push or pull?
The battery meter is showing more than 50% going to the screen.
Good that it seems I don't have an rouge apps and the wireless doesn't seem to take up too much battery, but a let down that I can't get more than a days worth of battery.
Found some decent battery recommendations here
Mike
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i can last 1,5 day without charging.
if i dont do anything special besides reading mail and answering a few whatsapp messages i do about 3-4% an hour. if i dont do anything at all, like at night, it uses 1-2% an hour.
1.screen is 35%
2.i have 3g on. sometimes i put it on 2g only
3. i dont know but i turn off wifi en bluetooth whenever i dont need it.
4. i use bluetooth in my car tot connect my phone with my car. unfortunately this uses a lot of battery by being just connected.
5. i kill the popgames, this uses a lot of battery
6. most times i let the battery go empty and only then start charging with the powerconnector, not through usb with a computer.
7. i dont have exchange but imap push email and another account pop3 which connects once every hour. i use the app k9mail
last weekend i did 2,5 day but i was abroad and didnt have roaming data and turned off wifi en bluetooth.
i did 1% a hour except when i was driving and connected my phone to my car.
but still 2,5 day
dimocash said:
i can last 1,5 day without charging.
if i dont do anything special besides reading mail and answering a few whatsapp messages i do about 3-4% an hour. if i dont do anything at all, like at night, it uses 1-2% an hour.
1.screen is 35%
2.i have 3g on. sometimes i put it on 2g only
3. i dont know but i turn off wifi en bluetooth whenever i dont need it.
4. i use bluetooth in my car tot connect my phone with my car. unfortunately this uses a lot of battery by being just connected.
5. i kill the popgames, this uses a lot of battery
6. most times i let the battery go empty and only then start charging with the powerconnector, not through usb with a computer.
7. i dont have exchange but imap push email and another account pop3 which connects once every hour. i use the app k9mail
last weekend i did 2,5 day but i was abroad and didnt have roaming data and turned off wifi en bluetooth.
i did 1% a hour except when i was driving and connected my phone to my car.
but still 2,5 day
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Does 2g only save battery over wifi and 3g? If so, is it sufficient for e-mail?
Mike
I normally put all of my most used widgets on the front page for quick access
3g or wifi pref. 2g is painfully slow.
Yea and forget appkillers,delete the apks or freeze the unwanted services.
The tricky part - what (not) to delete.
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You need root to do that, however.
panamamike said:
Does 2g only save battery over wifi and 3g? If so, is it sufficient for e-mail?
Mike
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yes 2g saves battery
i was told that because of the continues switchting between G, 3G and H the battery consumes a lot of energy.
when you put it on 3g only or 2g only it saves battery.
becasue i dont have 3g everywhere i go i put it on 2g so that i can make calls everywhere i am.
if i need to do some things on the internet i switch it back to 3g.
2g is enough to recieve mail and whatsapp messages.
my mail wont come in as fast as wifi or 3g but that doesnt matter to me.
dimocash said:
yes 2g saves battery
i was told that because of the continues switchting between G, 3G and H the battery consumes a lot of energy.
when you put it on 3g only or 2g only it saves battery.
becasue i dont have 3g everywhere i go i put it on 2g so that i can make calls everywhere i am.
if i need to do some things on the internet i switch it back to 3g.
2g is enough to recieve mail and whatsapp messages.
my mail wont come in as fast as wifi or 3g but that doesnt matter to me.
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How do you set it to H only? Is this via WCDMA only?
I'd love to drop the bloatware, but want a clean root option that won't affect functionality.
Mike
I have about 2 days. Currently I'm on 82% 12h since charge. My experience:
1. I keep 3G switched off most of the time when I'm outside. Only if I really need the speed for uploading a photo or update an app.
2. I keep Wifi running all the time at home.
3. I have disabled Location&Security both Use network and GPS. These seems to drain battery even if maps and latitude is disabled.
4. In the carrier settings I have disabled automatic mode and going for manual mode and selected my carrier.
5. I always use the back button on any app until I reach the home screen before locking.
My idle drain is about 1.5-2%/h when I'm at home with wifi. Outside with 2G it's draining a bit more and with 3G it uses insanely much battery.
I have lot of push services running (fb/g+/twitter-notifications, Whatsapp and gmail + an Exchange account)
I have also noticed that the battery calibration is a bit flaky. From time to time I run the phone until it dies (sometimes at 8-10% but sometimes at 30%). Then I'm unplugging the battery for a minute, plug it back and charge and it have calibrated and doesn't die at 30%.
Another thing I have noticed is that I can't get more than 4172mV charge. The battery should be able to charge to 4200mV.
Two good apps for monitoring battery usage is BetterBatteryStats and Battery Monitor Widget (which is more than just a widget)
do you guys charge till it reaches 100% or just till it turns green?
H a R 0 said:
do you guys charge till it reaches 100% or just till it turns green?
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thats one other discovery I have made.
when the phone says 100% it's actually still charging (can be seen that there is a charge indicator at the battery and also can be seen from Battery Monitor Widget)
Another thing is that when it has reached 100% it starts to drain battery until it reaches 95% then it starts to charge again. (nothing uncommon with that) but the phone still shows 100% so sometimes when it's unplugged it can actually be at 95% (but starts to countdown from 100%).
Battery Monitor Widget can alert when it's actually fully charged with a notification.
panamamike said:
How do you set it to H only? Is this via WCDMA only?
I'd love to drop the bloatware, but want a clean root option that won't affect functionality.
Mike
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i just change it from GSM/UMTS to GSM only
i have a dutch language installed so i dont really know what the exact english translation is.
This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
s1mpd1ddy said:
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
twolfekc said:
I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Auto Brightness?
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
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With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.