This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Auto Brightness?
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
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With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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I've not been able to drain this thing since I got it a week and a half ago. I have to say that I like to charge things over night. I've not been able to get the Photon below 40% before I go to bed each night.
I hear that you need to drain it full at least once but my habit of charging things overnight is getting in the way. Should I just let it go overnight one night?
I was under the impression that completely draining Lithium Ion batteries causes more harm than good.
"The smaller the depth of discharge, the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid frequent full discharges and charge more often between uses. If full discharges cannot be avoided, try utilizing a larger battery. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Also, i'm sitting at 46% after 15 hours of normal (for me) use. not to shabby. I should mention i'm running Juice Defender and build 4.5.1A-1_SUN-198_5 from the dev. forums and i'm connected to WiFi 90% of the time.
going to try tomorrow without Juice Defender and see how it does. After that i'm going to disable SPB Shell and see if that makes a difference.
Thank you sir. I don't want to root my phone so don't run Juice Defender but I do use the Data Saver in stock a lot. I usually just listen to a lot of music and look for new stuff on FB, check XDA forums blah blah blah, yada yada yada...
I'll not feel paranoid about charging my phone now lol.
Now with my tablet (Acer Iconia A500) I did root and load a bunch of different stuff. This is my first cell phone though and I didn't want to mess with something that I have to pay a monthly charge for. I know I could but it's my first cell phone lol.
How much are you guys using it? For me, I use about 30min talking, 1 hr heavy wifi use, 1 hr light wifi use (reading), 30 minutes playing with settings, and the rest of the day idle...that gets me to about 30%.
I actually thought that is kind of weak. Maybe my battery isn't as healthy as yours? I've only had it for 5 days. I charge it every night.
I use it for about 7 to 8 hours of music, FB updates/posting, checking XDA, about 10 minutes of calls and so far some Netflix watching just to show off the phone to my peeps. Oh and some picture taking.
I am the same way I hate to discharge it completely and its been very hard. I've went a day and a half without charging before it went under 10%. I will say that I am on Wifi 90% of the time as I have wifi at work and at home other than that its on performance mode so no true bells and whistles. I'm thoroughly impressed coming from the Evo.
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How much are you guys using it? For me, I use about 30min talking, 1 hr heavy wifi use, 1 hr light wifi use (reading), 30 minutes playing with settings, and the rest of the day idle...that gets me to about 30%.
I actually thought that is kind of weak. Maybe my battery isn't as healthy as yours? I've only had it for 5 days. I charge it every night.
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Average day for me is about 30 to 45 minutes of phone calls, 80 to 100 texts, few conversations on google talk, 30 or so emails on three accounts and i have trillian running connected to two accounts.
Connected to WiFi most of the time, bluetooth is turned on (not connected most the time) and brightness set to Auto.
I really dont see how this phone is a monster when it comes to battery life, I've actually been getting the exact opposite. I just fully charged my phone and after running for 2hrs and 7mins its down 78%.... This phone has yet to last me for the whole day. What am i doing wrong? I dont have tons of widgets and the only app that im running that might pose a problem is Go Launcher
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I really dont see how this phone is a monster when it comes to battery life, I've actually been getting the exact opposite. I just fully charged my phone and after running for 2hrs and 7mins its down 78%.... This phone has yet to last me for the whole day. What am i doing wrong? I dont have tons of widgets and the only app that im running that might pose a problem is Go Launcher
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Is that your screen on time? If that is then I would say that is impressive already. When I had the epic on stock if I use it for 2ish hours screen on time. I would need a recharge. (Got a lot better after using custom rom. Around 4 hrs screen on time before recharge)
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Average day for me is about 30 to 45 minutes of phone calls, 80 to 100 texts, few conversations on google talk, 30 or so emails on three accounts and i have trillian running connected to two accounts.
Connected to WiFi most of the time, bluetooth is turned on (not connected most the time) and brightness set to Auto.
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Yes, but what's your battery status at the end of this average day? 20%? 30%? 10%?
+1 for an awesome battery!
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For the past couple of weeks I've been swapping batteries with an external charger one to two times during the course of a day (plus the overnight charge)... Looks like it's time to do some housekeeping...
Edit: used to have battery life like everyone else in this thread though! While at the climbing gym last night I noticed that the thing felt like it was about to catch fire against my thigh - it had burned through about 60 percent of a freshly charged battery in about two hours. I have a nagging suspicion that I neglected to uninstall something (or a few things), and now something non-existent is constantly being polled for as a service after I launch some app for the first time...
when i got my phone it did great on a full day charge, but now with it just sitting at the office its at 70% by 11am i take it off the charger 7-8am .. it started to "weaken" after i downloaded a ton of apps i leave wifi on and 4g off but it also depends on your signal strenght at home it will kill the phone halfway thru the day because i have one bar
I just received my Rezound new yesterday, downloaded some apps from the market, and set everything up for normal use today. I got it off the charger this morning around 7:30am at 100% and its dead at 4:30pm. I would consider my use light today as I only used the web for maybe 10 minutes. I mostly did things like add contact shortcuts to my home screens and move icons around, and download maybe 2 new apps.
I came from a Droid 2 which got pretty awesome battery life running Liberty 3 and I'm wondering if my usage time is normal.
Total Time 8h 22m 33s
Display 80% (Time on 2h 45m)
Call Stand 5%
Phone Idle (Time on 5h 37m)
Android System 3%
Dolphin Browser 2%
Android OS 2%
Wi-Fi 2% (Time on 1h 38m)(I don't believe I was connected to any networks though)
Drop box 2%
The screen is what kills it along with LTE. If your screen was on for 2:45 that is why. The display sucks battery on this phone.
Thanks for the reply, I figured that was the case, but I still thought I would have gotten a little longer. I hope a custom ROM will help some with the battery life.
I am on stock rooted and don't really have battery issues. Typically I get 12-14 hours which by then I have easy access to power. If it is going to be a long day, I use the extended battery. It is not uncommon to still have charge left going into late at night.
I have the screen less than a third of the way on the selector and have Auto brightness turned off. Screen timeout is set to 1m but when I set the phone down, I have a widget called ScreenOff that I click to blank the screen. Primary reason for doing that is so I don't accidentally enter some app, but a secondary is that it turns off the screen before it would normally timeout.
When I am at home or at work, I use WiFi almost 100% of the time which due to strong WiFi signals there, (for me) uses less battery power than LTE.
Otherwise, I have LTE on.
Right now today, I am about 50% with 9h 12m of use. I fully charge nightly with the AC charger on my night stand so when I get up it is 100%.
I have an extended battery, but normally use the stock battery unless I know I am going to be away from the office for long periods of time.
I am not much of a game player, but I do watch short videos from time to time. I have streamed music, but don't normally. I get 10-20 calls a day typically and use my browser on a regular basis (reddit as well).
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Unless your display was on max brightness and you were streaming HD movies. That's bad battery life. I get 2 times that even with autobrightness, maybe your battery isn't broken in yet
A good measure is 30minutes display time per 10%, and 1% per hour with 3G and normal sync scheduling... If your apps sync ever 15 minutes that will kill it, and 4G should kill it a little more than just 3G... Minor fluctuations are still OK, but you shouldn't have 15 minutes per 10% unless everything is basically on full blast
My battery life using the setup in my sig is usually very good.
I can easily make it through a normal workday listening to mp3s from my card/texting etc using the standard battery. My screen is set to 30%, screen timeout to 30 seconds.
I do like to stream audio however using iheart radio or Sirius radio online. If I do that, I'm lucky if I make it 4 hours on the standard battery (without ever turning the screen on) When I am going to do that, I use the extended battery and keep a 2nd one in my pocket. I have two external chargers I use so I always have spare fully charged batts.
I actually prefer the feel/weight of the phone with the extended battery and the HTCPedia cutout hard rubber case.. That gives me a better grip on the phone and I barely notice the weight difference when it is in a Jean pocket.
I guess it just depends on the actual phone itself. My phone charges everynight. I pull it off the charger at 6 am and by 10am the battery is dead. I have 3 batterys, and a wall charger that I carry around. I don't consider myself a heavy user either. No music or videos. Only text, gtalk, gmail and a phone phone calls that last a few min each. I only have google and exchage set to push. My 2 yahoo accts sync every 4 hours. I do have fecebook as well. Screen is very dim. This was all using rooted cleanrom.
I am now back to bone stock, with a CLNR phone that just arrived yesterday (due to connection problems with my computer) So maybe a stock rom unrooted will make a difference. Heres hoping!
Sad.....great phone, I love it!
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The screen is what kills it along with LTE. If your screen was on for 2:45 that is why. The display sucks battery on this phone.
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This. I was playing "draw something " with friends today at work and even with a fully charged extended battery it only lasted about 3.5 hours with the backlight at 100% and oc'd to 1.7 GHz. But that was constant usage for those three hours.
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This. I was playing "draw something " with friends today at work and even with a fully charged extended battery it only lasted about 3.5 hours with the backlight at 100% and oc'd to 1.7 GHz. But that was constant usage for those three hours.
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That game literally jumps out of your phone, and rips your battery in half. But its way too fun.
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Diff. Roms equal diff results for me. All of the ICS roms I've tried all keep my phone up time and awake time the same. Is anyone else having this issue? Due to this, I typically end up getting around 5 hours of life even if I leave my phone off for the duration of that time. It's annoying because I really want to stay on ICS but get double the battery life out of the GB Roms.
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Diff. Roms equal diff results for me. All of the ICS roms I've tried all keep my phone up time and awake time the same. Is anyone else having this issue? Due to this, I typically end up getting around 5 hours of life even if I leave my phone off for the duration of that time. It's annoying because I really want to stay on ICS but get double the battery life out of the GB Roms.
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On Scotts CleanRom 3.6, with fairly heavy usage (hour of solitaire, hour of browsing xda, texting, 30 minutes of phone calls) I can get about 10 hours before needing a charge again. Before I updated to 3.6, which has the 3.8v battery fix, I could only get about 5 or 6 hours of similar usage. I don't recall if prior versions had my awake and up times the same, but I haven't noticed it recently.
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Screen is the sole battery killer for me.
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Screen is the sole battery killer for me.
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same here and i never get consistent battery life. one day it will be dead in 9hrs and like today im going on 22hrs. just not overall consistent.
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Screen is the sole battery killer for me.
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I take it you don't stream audio like I do??
I just got my Rezound yesterday, and have noticed a surprisingly poor battery life. I did all my setup yesterday, and fully charged the battery over night. After unplugging it this morning, I listened to music off the sd card for about 45 min, browsed the net for about another 45, then stopped using it for a while. I noticed the battery was about halfway through, so I plugged it in to my car charger and did some more Internet stuff. However, after checking the battery info, I realized that even plugged in to the car charger it was consuming more power than it was taking in. I finally had to turn it completely off and let it charge to get the battery from yellow back to green.
This is the same charger I used for my Droid X, so I know that it is working...
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I've been running BAMF ICS v0.9 for a few days, and the other versions before that. I get 12-14 hours with 4G on, and 20-23 with 4G off....I keep the screen on 40% brightness
Watch your clock speeds if you are on ICS. They constantly Max out, both cores. That's where your battery life is going.
Sometimes data flickers for me on random days, that's the only thing that wears my battery down fast. But I can still go through the day have 40ish percent left. If it doesn't flicker I can go through through day with about 50% left. And if in on Wi-Fi most of the time I have nore than that left over. And that's with using the phone for a couple of hours with the display on.
Trying ineffabilis with DSBs 1.1.3 kernel and undervolt it some
for me, battery life killers can be streaming audio (sirius xm or espn radio) and definitely jelly wars. Phone will die on extended battery in about 4 hours of continuous play.
Otherwise, normal usage, I get 10-16 hours of use on my extended battery before swapping it out (use 2 extended batteries).
4g definitely runs the phone hotter than wifi (about 20 degrees hotter for me)
The only time my phone gets around 95 degrees is if it's on a charger and I'm watching a movie, and it takes about an hour for it to feel warm, which could even be caused from me holding it the whole time. 4G doesn't get my phone any hotter than 3G Or Wi-Fi. Guess every phone is different though. least we get signal xD
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The only time my phone gets around 95 degrees is if it's on a charger and I'm watching a movie, and it takes about an hour for it to feel warm, which could even be caused from me holding it the whole time. 4G doesn't get my phone any hotter than 3G Or Wi-Fi. Guess every phone is different though. least we get signal xD
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Thought I was done with heat after I got my replacement phone but the 4G hotspot Cooks! 120 is now a daily ordeal.
KORM via the beast known as the Rezound.
I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
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Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
kimtyson said:
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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h0tw1r3 said:
5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!!
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Awesome first charge.. plugged in Friday when I got it and just now 38 hours later I'm plugging it in. 4.5 hours of screen on at 85 percent brightness.. here and there browsing.. some photos.. gps enabled turn by turn a couple times.. SIRIUSXM for 4 hours at least.. fell asleep both Friday and Saturday night listening to Art Bell.. so at least 4 hours. Outlook checking mail every couple hours. Tested a few games for probably a total of an hour maybe. This is about average use for me. I would say this bests my note2 and that's a lot to say. Will it get better after a few more cycles? This phone is a keeper... loving the knock on/off feature and I'm getting really used to the buttons on the back.
Good stuff man....lower that brightness a little and turn on autobrightness and you'd be getting even better battery life. Doesnt the constant 85% hurt your eyes?
That's awesome. Battery life was a big reason I picked up this phone, and it has yet to disappoint. I'm on Verizon, so probably couldn't get the Nexus 5, but even if I could I'd probably go with the G2 for the battery. I like a nice bright screen as well
I took the attached a couple if days ago. GPS off, mobile location on, 65% brightness baseline with auto on. Mostly web browsing, with about an hour of talk time, and 3 hours of audio playing via Bluetooth. The battery really is fantastic.
However, there is something that can get stuck and prevent deep sleep causing excessive idle drain. Its happened to me twice now. A reboot clears it up, but I haven't tracked down the culprit yet to prevent it entirely.
Anyhoo, pics below.
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Ive found 3 culprits for idle drain thus far:
*backup* - disable backup/ restore in global settings
Nlpwakelock - disable wifi/cell gps assist in global settings, and history anf reporting in Maps
CarrierIQ - disable it as per instructed in the carrier IQ thread
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I took the attached a couple if days ago. GPS off, mobile location on, 65% brightness baseline with auto on. Mostly web browsing, with about an hour of talk time, and 3 hours of audio playing via Bluetooth. The battery really is fantastic.
However, there is something that can get stuck and prevent deep sleep causing excessive idle drain. Its happened to me twice now. A reboot clears it up, but I haven't tracked down the culprit yet to prevent it entirely.
Anyhoo, pics below.
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38+ hrs off the charger, 7:18 hrs screen time. 60% baseline autobrightness. 3% left
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This was from my third charge. Gets better every charge. Basically full stock only debloated.
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pretty insane results.. looks like it only gets better! On my second charge now.. still showing 100 percent after a few hours.. very little use though.
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pretty insane results.. looks like it only gets better! On my second charge now.. still showing 100 percent after a few hours.. very little use though.
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I found it takes a lot to get thought that first one percent. I had the screen on for 45 minutes before I dropped to 99% the other day. I'm starting to think there is something up with the battery gauge.
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G2's battery life is very awesome...I got 6 hrs around screen on time for stock rom.
I believe if we get more tweaks, rom in future, it will get even better!
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I found it takes a lot to get thought that first one percent. I had the screen on for 45 minutes before I dropped to 99% the other day. I'm starting to think there is something up with the battery gauge.
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No... You're just using an awesome phone!
Yea the battery seems great when you don't touch the device but try playing a game for a little bit . Candy crush crushes ( ? ) my battery to hell.