I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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I ,am on it a lot, between GPS and general usage, ,but this still seems like too fast to drain compared to what others here have said. I had this problem with my Atrix too, maybe i am just destined for bad luck with battery life
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how much screen on time do u get?
Cozzeck said:
Do you use anything like juice defender. This app literly doubled my battery life!
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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This happened to me since i first got the phone it has slowed down and now the phone can last through the day ever since at&t throttled me for this month goes without saying ill take it easy next month. so most likely if your in an lte area thats the problem
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Apps like that only increase standby battery life. Everything else is very minimal.
And I'm not happy with the battery life either. My phone is plugged in right now and the battery is actually going down as I use it.
Ready for the HTC One X
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If it's notbthe stock charger you areblikely not using a rapid charger.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
You honestly can't use any phone on GPS without external power and expect that you're not going to discharge quickly. Assuming that you are running a car charger during GPS and just didn't say so, search the i-717 threads, since the topic has been well vetted on what chargers are more effective,etc. There are definite differences.
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
When I first got my i717 and was using it on the stock rom I had pretty terrible battery life. I take it off the charger at 5:00am and had decent battery life (around 5 to 7 hours without GPS) but I use my phone a lot for internet/email. I think your battery life is completely normal given your usage.
Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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Most people get about 5hrs screen on time. Total on battery ranges up to about 24hrs, but only if the screen is off at least 19 of them.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I pull mine off the charger at 7:00 and at 3pm or so it's down to 85%, I'll put it on the charger at work until I leave around 5-6pm (mainly because I'm used to having to do this on my previous phone) and at night if I'm not using it constantly it's around 70-75% when I plug it in at bed time.
I suspect anyone getting that bad of battery life must be using it constantly, ie: Playing games, browsing, trolling facebook, etc.. Even in the "new toy" stage I'm getting great battery life.
FYI I don't have LTE, but do generally have good 4G.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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i can get about 3 or so
5 hours of screen time AND 19hours standby sounds incredible
would sure like to see screen shot as well
and def dont think 5 hours is any type of avg
I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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I had GPS running on my phone for 4 hours today, had blue tooth on half the time without knowing it, sending text messages, making two 5 min phone calls, checking maps, checking FML and reading a book for about an hour and drained down to about 70% and I have the brightness set at auto. I would exchange it for a new battery.
On average with several texts per hour, several 5-10 min phone calls, taking a few pics and uploading them to picasa, checking facebook, updating status and checking emails I can pull off the charger at 630am and still have 50% battery (at least) by 630pm.
I do have the juicedefender (which isn't crap, it turns off signal after so long so you aren't trolling for signals when you aren't on the phone).
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and whats your screen on time for that 12 hour 6am-6pm with 50% still left please?
Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Just buy a second battery and throw it in at noon. No biggie.
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Was thinking of doing that since they're so cheap but thanks to juice defense I don't really have that issue no more.
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5 hours? Would you mind posting a link to suh a claim? I barely get 12 hours total with 2 hours of screen time.
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I had a ss of my buddies yesterday, but can't restore mms lol. There are plenty of other ss in the note section. He was at 22+ hrs with about 4:30 of screen on and some % remaining. I have to charge around 7-9 everynight at 4-4:30 hrs screen on, but my use is pretty heavy. I sync 4 gmail accounts, a separate GV, 3 calendars, and several apps.
If yours is much worse than that, you likely have a few troublesome apps or are playing games. First, after a full charge, reset cpuspy timers, lock it, and set it down for a few hours (I know, impossible). Then check to see that your CPU has been in deep sleep about 95% of the time. If not, use better battery stats to see what has been request wakelocks. Not only the most total time, but the total number. Any app that looks outrageous, freeze it or uninstall it. For system processes that look troublesome, Google. You can often find simple tricks online that will tell you what's causing them to go crazy. Beyond that, turn off syncing of anything that isn't needed or doesn't matter (like Facebook), and uninstall stuff you never use.
Another slight help is the brightness widget (don't use the actual widget, just put the app on your homescreen, it works the same) or dimmer in market as they can both set the brightness to a value of 10 (Samsung lowest stock is 20), and even if you can't tell the difference, it helps. Jkay settings in saurom can set the auto brightness profile slightly darker than stock. Umm, and the obvious, use less Widgets, longer sync intervals, processor scaling and speed profiles, and buy a couple rapid chargers, wall and auto.
A couple things to note after seeing a few of these posts...
BT can be on, but without it searching, connected, or listening it's not active.
GPS isn't active unless its in use aand you see the icon in the notification bar. That being said, fb, websites, and many other apps that request location will activate it.
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YOU MUST CALIBERATE THE BATTERY!! I have no issues I use my phone heavy all day and get 15 hours and I still have 20% left. All you have to do is
1) Charge you phone until it says "charged"
2)Leave phone plugged in and power off and let it charge until the battery meter literally says "100" (screen will sleep so you can check with volume rocker to light screen)
3) power on phone and let boot and than power off and wait till you see 100% again
4) now keep doin this and you will notice it will start displaying "100%" faster and faster usually takes 6-7 times cycling like this
5) After you do this download Battery Caliberation (root required) app from market and hit the caliberate button and boom your good to go
I do this on every android phone I own when I flash a new rom or purchase a fresh one. Everyone should do this everytime you flash a new rom and I can CONFIRM significant battery longevity on all my android phones I have done this with
You only have to do it once so just get it out the way and you'll get through a whole dayand have some juice to play with.
I get 15+ hours and do not any battery juice defender apps
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The fact that there are people out there that get really good battery life means the problem is you and not the phone. If you refresh facebook every minute of course your battery life will be crappy. apps like juicedefender are just marketing crap. as long as there are no running apps in the background that eat your battery, you do not need any juicedefender or tasker. also setting screen-off behavior to conservative on set cpu helps improve battery life.
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Just to be clear here, Tasker has nothing to do with battery life. It doesn't hurt it, nor "help" it. However, you certainly could write tasks/contexts that would decrease battery life, and there are a few scripts out there which do silly stuff like autokilling, etc... But if we're talking "battery savings", Tasker and JD do not go in the same category.
IMO JD is only useful if you're frequently in an area with no signal, like you work in a basement or deep inside of a solidly constructed building. Since you mentioned Tasker, in this context it does help me a bit on battery because my wifi turns off when I leave the house, but that's also something JD can help with. If you don't have a wifi connection it'll turn off wifi (and I believe turn it back on periodically to see if there's one available?) I don't use JD, so can't speak too much for it.
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7-3 is 8 hours
exactly how much screen on time do you have by the time its at 85% ? because i mean, it can go on standy for days with nothing on
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Hour? Hour and a half? I'm working during that period. I usually hit news sites and G+ when I'm first at my desk in the morning, so that's 30 minutes or so off and on looking at it, then perhaps an hour over the rest of the day, sometimes more at lunch.
I'll look closer today and post back.
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Complete nonsense. https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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Given the recent run of battery posts, i thought i would join in. Yes you read it correctly; 98% after 5 hrs on battery. Thats with an up-time of 8:20, and an awake time of 1:51. During that time i checked and replied to a couple of emails(opened a photo attached) looked at pics in the gallery, and watched a 30 second video w/max volume three times. Also checked the weather several times to update the 5-day forecast.
So whats the secret? Dont open up any of the other screens after you reboot. Or, you can remove whatever you have on there and have only one active screen.
Heres the proof ( sorry about the crappy pic, all i had was my old Hero)
How do you do it can you explain a little better
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Well, I don't have a picture, but my battery is down 2 bars on the screen you are showing...so roughly 80% I guess. I have up time showing 39:17:xx and awake time of 12:51:xx. I've looked at some pictures of my cat several times (had to put him to sleep yesterday due to a degenerative disc disease that finally damaged his spinal cord to where he couldn't walk anymore ) I did a lot of texting, e-mailing, some web surfing, and updating some programs from the market. I also talked on the phone for about an hour.
What did I do for this? Well, the only account sync I have is GMail, all the other crap is turned off. I have the LCD brightness locked at about 20% (auto brightness unchecked), I use WiFi whenever possible since 3G sucks the battery, and the only widget I have running is the HTC Sense weather/clock thing. It is set to update every 4 hours. Otherwise pretty basic stuff.
Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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Well, I don't really have to prove anything to you. We are not in court and I am not on trial. However, I can tell you I wake up every morning at 7:30 and unplug my phone which means, at the very least, the awake time is accurate. I didn't realize up time was only since last reboot. But still, sitting at 8/10 bars at 13 hours. If you don't believe it, then don't.
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Uptime and awake time don't mean anything in regards to your claim. That just means, since you last rebooted your phone has been up for 8 hrs 20 min, etc. What you have to show to backup your claim is the time since unplugged...
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OK, so its was on battery for 5 hours and I unplugged it at that time. Im not trying to brag, cause frankly the battery was pretty crappy for the first week. I believe the stand-by time on this phone is awesome, Im more concerned about how fast the battery drains once you start using it.
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When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
Can I put apps on those screens so basically no widgets on any screen but the home
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When you reboot your phone, the only active screen is the home screen. If you long-press the Home button, you will see the other six screens blank. I left the other screens the way they came from the factory and found out that if you even look at them once, they seem to remain active even if they are not being updated.
I was charging my phone before I went to bed, and waking up with 95% (yes I minimized all the background updates). Then I would drive to work with BT on and it would go to 93%. 12 hours later, after two text messages and two voice mails, Im at 70%. Sure my up time was 19 hrs, but my awake time was 40 minutes max. So basically you need to keep everything but the essentials off your screens. This is my experience, as im sure there are people out there on 4G 8 hrs a day who come home with 50%+ on their phone.
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You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
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You don't have GPS enabled. That's cheating.
3G (or WiFI, 4G enabled) GPS, auto sync, backlighting, widgets, exchange, twitter, facebook, live wallpaper, all the reasons we bought the phone?! Those should be running at all times. (Otherwise, what exactly is the point? Srsly?)
If the battery life is still 3 hours then I am expecting a phone that hasn't and won't be built for 20 years.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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I get about the same when I'm working a 10-14. That's with checking exchange email, background sync and data on, sending texts on a normal basis, brightness about 30-40%, checking fb, etc etc. Battery doesn't drain much at all for me while it's sleeping which is great when I'm working these shifts and don't care to bring a charger.
Using GPS with location on and Sprint Navigation will drain that beast though, but that's expected.
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I think we use our phones very differently. I like those features but I don't have them on all the time. I use the GPS when I need to use a GPS. I look at FB or Twitter when I have time to look at them. Live wallpaper, while cute, doesn't do much for me. Exchange and Gmail push is about all I use regularly.
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Damn your finely worded post. Now I feel the sudden urge to re-evaluate my obsession with live wallpapers so I don't feel like a lame kid that likes something "cute"
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I had a epic 4g with extended battery 3500 mah and I would constantly use the phone even while at work.. At the end of the day my battery would be at 50%. On my evo 3d I use the phone even more now because its new and my battery would still be 50 % at the end of the day.
Fairly impressed
Doesnt the GPS only draw power if an app is actually using it at the time? So does it matter if you leave it on
Im pretty sure that if you leave your GPS on it will be put into "stand-by" mode, which in effect draws power. I could be wrong tho
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that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
I shut everything off that im not using. Only time my battery life sucks is when Im at work and get very low signal. That drains the crap out of the battery.
Plus I use Juice Defender, seems to provide some improvement.
After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
Sorry, I guess I should have included two pics. I do have battery status and it showed 5:05 since off the charger. I chose to post the other pic since I thought it meant more in terms of use. Sure it doesn't tell you how I was using it, just that it want sleeping for half of that time. Im not trying to impress anyone, i just thought it was a huge improvement from the past week where 5 hours off charger showed 70% battery left with only 40 minutes of up time (which resulted form a couple of VM and texts). So my point was along the lines of; more use, but huge improvement in battery consumption.
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that aint proof at all
use a program like battery status, that'll actually tell us how long its been since it was off the charger
but even from this, shows your phone doing a lot of sleeping
we'd be more impressed with a lot of battery left after actually USING the phone
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After being unplugged and having used it as I described, after 20 hours I still had 68% of my battery charge. I don't have juice defender, but I made the adjustments I mentioned and the one I forgot to mention is I also turned off location services.
So far I am pretty happy with the battery life, but I also remember with the Epic I had amazing battery life for a month or so and then it was more like what is "average" for that phone. I'm no scientist, but I would guess that brand new lithium batteries do a little better and then when the chemicals start breaking down you lose that "little extra."
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20hours, and almost 70% left?
i say super BS
because you know at that rate you can go almost 3 days with no charge right?
i know the evo 3d battery has bout 150 more mah then the 4G, but c'mon son
New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.
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New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.
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Sounds like you've got an app that is causing 100% wake time.
Go to "Settings", then to "Battery & data manager", then "Battery Usage". It will show you what is using most of your battery.
Importantly, though, click on the time at the top of the screen (which tells you how long you have been on battery / off battery). This will bring up a screen that will show you things like the level of phone signal you are getting, and most importantly for you when your phone is "awake". If you see a mostly blue (or in your case, possibly all blue) bar there, then you've got something that's causing you problems.
Spare parts may be able to help you figure out what it is.
Thx jw, appreciate the help. Nothing worked though, Sprint is replacing the phone.
Sounds like either u have a bad battery or rogue app running... I had the same problem, I did a factory reset, but skipped setting up and social networks....today I had a hour of usage, and through 9 hours, had 77% battery left....big difference
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Sounds like either u have a bad battery or rogue app running... I had the same problem, I did a factory reset, but skipped setting up and social networks....today I had a hour of usage, and through 9 hours, had 77% battery left....big difference
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I'm not certain if this is Motoblur or it was just changed from the last time I used Android, but there appears to be an option to only sync social network information when on Wifi.
Battery & Data > Data Delivery > Social applications
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I'm not certain if this is Motoblur or it was just changed from the last time I used Android, but there appears to be an option to only sync social network information when on Wifi.
Battery & Data > Data Delivery > Social applications
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I didn't like motoblurs social networking....nothing like htc sense facebook syncing. Not sure if social networking has a memory leak or it was a fluke that since I hard reset and skipped the initial social networking setup, my battery life is great
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I had my phone on the night stand unplugged and it went down 5%.
I can get about 5 hours of heavy use and I can recharge fully in an hour or so.
No battery complaints from me!
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battery is amazing for me. downloaded battery circle from market that shows true percentage of battery and when u pull down notification bar it will show something like "Discharging from 95% since 8 hrs" then underneath that it will say "voltage 3.78v // capacity at 47% since 11:16pm" or something along those lines. so in 8 hrs of medium use on 3g only i dropped half. not bad at all.
think u had a bad battery. also i honestly dont think you need juice defender with this phone. i let things sync all day whether 3g or wifi and i make it a full day easy.
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New Photon and dies within 6 hours with no use. Sprint store installed Juice Defender and set on maximum battery savings and still loses almost 25% charge per hour!
This obviously is not the norm as if it were, this forum would be flooded with posts about it. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is going on here?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated it, thank you.
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Home Screen, slide it to the left. On that screen, shut down 4G, GPS, and Bluetooth if not using it. Even playing with mine (and I play hard) I'm about 30% loss every 4 hours. Im good for a day?
Also, remember if you have Facebook, Twitter, Google+.........the radio (3G or 4G) is constantly reaching out to them for updates!
I went this whole weekend from 8am to 11pm without charging, I played words with friends checked fb, texted and made calls and never needed my charger. I came from the evo and i would of had a dead phone at 4pm doing the same amount so i am impressed all the way
Got mine on Friday. Looking forward to the workday to test the battery during a normal routine. But yesterday, I gamed & messed with the phone for over 2 hours (out of 4 hours off uptime) & only dropped by 50%. I am happy with that.
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I'm at 12 hours up time and am at 50% left. Battery is good in my book.
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it's a good battery, can get a full 7-8 hour day on heavy usage (4g and 3d games) plus texting and youtube. If i only used 3g and wifi i could get 2 days out of it if i really wanted to
This is my 4th note. The 3 I had previously the battery lasted a long time. I kept the same battery from the first one in all three exchanges. I took the new battery for this fourth one. Could this battery be a bad one or should I return the phone again for a 5th time. I don't wanna take a chance getting a phone with the problems I had on the other 3.
Just looking for some opinions
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Good Lord, 3 exchanges! Wow... try running the battery all the way dead where the phone shuts itself down, keep it on the charger and charge it overnight (or in the realm of 8 hours) while leaving it off and see if that makes a difference. I ran my batt that way once and I'm getting 18 or so hours per charge (depending on how much I play with it).
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Yea I tied that. Doesn't seen to make a difference. I hopes its just the battery cuz that way I can just buy a new battery
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Could it really be a defective battery? Seems more like battery drain would be a phone hardware issue. All the batteries are made the same right?
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I have horrible battery life as well
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Reflash your modem, rom, and kernel. See if that helps
I only get about 3 hours of screen time myself. Seems normal for this phone. The huge screen eat up battery fast. Plus if your using LTE, so good bye to your battery.
I don't think you have a bad phone, That's just how it is in my opinion...
so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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so whats your total at the end.. like say.. 5%..?
If you're getting about 3hrs screen time, I'd say you'd be on par with what I'm getting. Some days I can eek out close to 5 hours screen time, usually on the weekends when im at home and on WiFi.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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Considering the size of the screen I am getting decent battery life, sounds like what your experiencing is normal :/ but going through 3 phones must be very frustrating.
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I get about 4 hours and 45 Minutes of screen time.
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I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
RicFusion said:
I don't know why you guys are getting such horrible times. With regular use I'm getting an average of 8-10 hrs screen time, depending on what I'm doing. I'm running Saurom RCVI, with Da_g OC Kernel, and tweaked a few of the JKay settings. I recommend charging to 100%, wiping batter stats, and doing a power cycle on it. That's what I did after installing above Rom/Kernel, and battery went from from 4-5hrs to at a minimum 7hrs.
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I would like to see a screen shot of that
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
polstein said:
Fighting battery problems here as well. I'd assume it was normal for this phone, except when I see people posting great times.
1 week old phone. Switched to Saurom yesterday to see if it's any better. Screen regularly at 5%. Usually on Wifi most of the day (and I'm not in an LTE market yet). I set all my synchs (rss, weather) to 4 hours. Others (Twitter) are manual. Only Exchange Email is push.
Using Cpusy & BetterBatteryStats to try to see what's going on. Could be a bad battery - could be that the number I'm seeing is wrong.
Anyway, I'm getting about a 7% drain an hour *with the phone off* ! I'm even rebooting as needed to make sure it's in deep sleep & not 384 (which is very, very annoying). Unplugging the phone @ 7am means a dead battery by 3pm. And if I'm using the phone, it's more like 12-15% an hour (min screen, reading a book). Been charging in the car and at work - whenever I can for now.
Going to try to run some tests on the new rom. Leave phone off for 30-60 minutes & track % loss. Then, maybe put it in airplane mode & try again.
Some weird ones I see to often - Adfree, Maps, Alarm Manager (which I understand can come from almost any of my apps). Oh - tried Juice Defender, no help there either (didn't make any difference at all)
Finally, in the car with Waze (gps), a Podcast Playing, and the screen cranked up for visibility - the car dock/charger keeps the phone about even. On my HD2, a drive to work would charge up like 20-30% of my phone.
Really, really hope I don't need to carry a 2nd battery for days when I can't keep the phone charging.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice, so your car charger will likely only keep this phone from losing power, it may not gain any juice, and it may even loose juice depending on charger power and what the phone is doing currently.
This is also why most of us are seeing about 3 hours of screen on time, as while the screen is on its using probably 700-800mah of power. divide that by the 2500mah battery and you can see why...
You can try other programs to try and help with things like background data, undervolting, etc, but that's all going to have a small effect as the "problem" is the screen, its eats up most of your juice. If you want to save battery you need to go after the big thing, the screen, not the little things. However short of reducing the brightness there's not a ton you can do about the screen. It is a big screen, and it needs big power to drive it.
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How often do you get exchange emails? I stopped using push exchange email as it was a huge drain on the battery with the volume of emails I get...
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
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With this phone the screen draws some serious juice, so if your using you phone in the car with the screen on its using about 950mah of juice
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I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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I get about 5 an hour during the day. Will try setting it to once an hour in my testing instead of push.
I *think* (need to double check) that the charger is putting out 1A. Where did you get the 950m number from? Is there an appx. chart for different levels of screen brightness (how about 50% for example when in the car? oh - and how much lower is the 5% I use indoors?)
Agree, the #1 thing is the screen itself, which is why I get very confused when I have the large drain with the screen off.
I'll also have to try a test today where I turn on my podcast, but leave Waze off - and turn the screen off while it's charging in the car.
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950mah is an educated guess. If you have root you can run this in a terminal to see how much power you car charger is giving the phone... (su first)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_current_adc
I usually get about 9100 for a result, which is 910.0 mah. and my phone will charge barely if I dont have gps going (screen on). if screen is on and gps is on the phone will slowly discharge, so that puts the phone power usage at about 900mah with screen on, so maybe 950 was too high of a guess. So when the phone screen is on, your using a ton of juice for such a small battery.
If I use just a podcast app and the screen is off the phone will charge much faster while in the car. If I have google maps running, it stays almost even...
You could even calculate your usage. She how many minutes your were driving with the screen off and the phone charging and note the amount of battery% gained in those minutes. You'd see a huge difference in charging times with the screen off. In my 50 minute commute to work, I gain about 20% battery charging with the screen off... With the screen on, I see almost nothing.
Seems like some days are better than others.
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.
I've had the HTC One X+ for a week now and it's a really good phone, however, the battery really lets it down. The battery drain is terrible on my phone. The phone is really good in sleep mode, only losing about 2% in 1 hour, but as soon as it's not in sleep mode, as soon as you start to use the phone, the battery drains like hell. For example, when I'm web surfing or using applications, it loses 1% like every 2 minutes and that's crazy!
I don't know why, power saver is on, switched to 2G instead of 3G, disabled Google Now, auto-sync, basically everything I think would drain the battery. Brightness is on it's minimum. I feel so restricted when using my phone! But I've read other people having really good battery life even with moderate use, so am I doing something wrong? Should I factory reset my phone? Is there something wrong with my phone? Can someone help me?
Thanks!!
Have you disabled all AT&T apps? They drain battery as hell especially ATT locker.
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Under Settings/Sounds/Ring Tone untick the three options as they just have the sensors constantly checking, then under Settings/Power untick Fastboot.
Then get a battery monitor app like GSam Battery Monitor which pinpoints the power drainer. How many apps do you have installed? Dump the ones you hardly ever use.
Also, several charge/discharge cycles are necessary before battery reaches best performance.
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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I think losing 2% of battery every hour of standby is pretty bad. How many hours of screen time on do you get from a full charge to around 10%?
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2% isn't bad. You crazy.
My phone's battery life is really good and keeps improving with more usage. I do not however, expect more than a few hours of gaming.
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Won't lie i got the same problem you are facing right now. The battery life is horrible, in fact it only lasts about 3-4 hours gaming if i am lucky. Before 5 minutes i opened a game called "dead trigger" my battery was 94% after 5 minutes of playing guess what? BOOM 89% straight which is extremely bad from my point of view.
You know, you do have screen with a high resolution, and you're using the max of the graphic and other chips while gaming...and that costs power...most likely NFC is active, as is BT, 4G, brightness on 200%, the loudspeaker blearing some music out of the cloud, GPS on, and 15 apps not closed properly, weather syncing every 5 secs, and 700 apps installed from Happy Santa to FakeYourPhone!
I really can't get it that you complain about it. It is a mobile smartphone that can be used to play games. If your priority lies with the latter, have a charger handy with you! Play, enjoy, and stop moaning...Period!
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Bad Battery Drain as well
I'm going to tack onto this thread. I got the HTC One X+ about a week 1/2 ago. The phone is amazing. It has everything I want, but I cannot make it through the day once without always consciously thinking about battery drain and how quickly the phone just sucks down the power. The following Battery Monitor graph is when I have JuiceDefender installed so it turns off the data radio whenever the screen is off or I'm connected to WiFi. I was on WiFi from 7:45 this morning all the way to 5:00pm. The drain on this thing is so fast. I didn't watch a single video today nor any games. This is all facebook data, internet data, and just some general playing on the phone. I also turn on the power save feature for Jelly bean so I turned off vibration feedback, brightness is turned down, and CPU saving is turned on.
Do I have a dud phone or is the One X+ really that awful on the battery? I'm strongly considering taking it back but every single other thing about the phone is great but if the battery on every One X+ is that bad I don't know if it's worth it. Please help assuage my fears or give me some advice on what I can do better.
Do you have Google now active?
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You have WiFi, lte, and I'm assuming other radios on. Curious to see what other apps you're running in the background.
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Do you have Google now active?
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I do. I kind of thought it was one of the neater parts of Jelly Bean. Is it a complete battery hog? This is my 1st android phone but I'm a long time Smartphone owner. I'm guessing by your question I should disable it and see how the battery performs.
It is an LTE phone though i'm on wifi 90% of my day. Background apps that run are usually Whatsapp, Facebook, and Linkedin. Right now I'm losing about 2% charge every 10 minutes if I'm using it. I gotta plug the thing in as much as I can just so I can use it. I'm perfectly fine with tweaking the thing, just not sure how much 'tweaking' is needed to get some better performance out of the things.
I'm wondering if Facebook is the problem... Just a thought...
The One X+ isnt that bad in terms of battery life in my experience, I've done 15.5 hours with 2.5 hours screen on time, Not sure what folks are expecting, Thats pretty average for a smartphone... That is with Wi-Fi on, LTE on, Google Now on, Autosync on, the little weather widgety clock thing on.. and pretty much me not doing anything besides closing apps when im done with it, I have Kik messanger and TextPlus on in the background but they arent doing much to my battery life... I dont use the power saver until it toggles at 15% battery life, I have vibration on, and my brightness is fixed at like 33% constantly... I have every ATT app disabled in the app thing.. I also have the "best Wi-Fi performance" thing ticked which says it might use more battery...
Yes, Gaming and watching videos on the thing is going to drain the battery out fast, Just like every smartphone I've ever owned... Its better than my GSM Nexus with the stock battery (Its roughly halfway between the stock battery and the extended one) and better than the S3 I had very briefly (However I will note the S3 couldnt keep a signal at all whereas my One X+ can...) The conversion seems to be that you trade about 2 hours standby time for 30 minutes of screen-on usage in my case
Picture 1 is me using my phone normally in a day.. 15.5 hours is more than enough (I'd say i get closer to 13 or 14 average) with 2.5 hours of screen on time
Picture 2 was me basically doing nothing but watching Youtube and playing games this morning... its really not all that bad, the biggest consumer/ battery hog for me is Mediaserver for some reason, I'm not actually 100% sure why (I know what it is...) or if i could pull even better battery life if there is something actually wrong with it and its draining my battery excessively... But I'm not complaining about it because well.. this was me abusing my phone pretty much
Not arguing that some folks are getting rubbish battery life, Because they are, I'm actually more curious as to whats causing it, There has to be something here and some way to fix it
Follow up to yesterday's battery
Ok in the attachment is my usage today. As you can see it is totally what I would expect from the phone. I got it to that point by disabling Google Now. That kind of stinks however, I can actually use my phone without being nearby an electrical outlet all the time. The other thing that works well is how much cooler it is to the touch under normal use. Normally it was quite hot. I work in a basement(3 bars with LTE) so my guess is Google Now was always trying to utilize location (even if it wasn't immediately obvious) on the screen via the indicator and thus would just kill my battery especially when I would pick it up to use it with the screen. I wish I could use Google Now but perhaps I can slowly bring back some of it's abilities and find a happy medium.
I'd also like to make note that I am still utilizing the power saving features for Jelly Bean along with JuiceDefender.
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
KenjiS said:
No offense but I cant read that battery thing you got. I cant see how long you used it or anything, all i can tell is your battery is at 70%...
-edit- i think i might have got it, 7h or so?
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Yeah my apologies, the timeline is on the X axis at the bottom. Unplugged at 7am, and at 2:32pm it was above 70%. Pretty drastic difference since normally the last week or so I've been hitting 70% at about 9am.
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Sounds more in line with what im getting... Though i have Google Now on... Weird.. Very weird
GSam is a bit nicer and free FYI so you might wanna give it a look
how much playback time should I be getting for 720p mp4 files? My phone drains about 10% every 20 minutes with power save on, auto sync and all wireless radios off and minimum brightness, I am quite disappointed, is this normal drain?
I had to open my big mouth, Now my One X+ has developed a little problem It wont enter Deep Sleep so yeah... now the battery life isnt terribly great
You guys might wanna check that your phone is entering deep sleep and not getting held awake by something, because now im seeing similar drain to you guys...
Very new issue though, Weird... I uninstalled an app I felt might have caused it and ill see if that fixes it, Currently recharging my One X+ to reset the counters and everything...
According to BBM, It appears to be my Wi-Fi keeping the phone awake for some reason... Next step if the uninstallation doesnt fix things will be to disable Wi-Fi and see if that changes anything