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What do you think, will there ever be official 2.3 for X10 ?
I think they havend made any 2.2, but if they're making an 2.3 for ARC and other new SE phones, they might also make an update for x10.
Your opinion ?
SE is done supporting the X10.
What would be your incentive to drop another $600 USD on an Arc if they gave 2.3 to X10 owners?
We won't even see 2.2, officially.
This is the one thing I hate about android.
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augie7107 said:
SE is done supporting the X10.
What would be your incentive to drop another $600 USD on an Arc if they gave 2.3 to X10 owners?
We won't even see 2.2, officially.
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htc is doing it with the desire, samsung is doing it with galaxy s....
The worst part is if you consider that this phone came out on 1.6 when everyone else was on 2.1, technically we didn't get any update, all they did was get us to where we should have been initially and drop us...
no.
Sony only promised us 2.1
fiscidtox said:
htc is doing it with the desire, samsung is doing it with galaxy s....
The worst part is if you consider that this phone came out on 1.6 when everyone else was on 2.1, technically we didn't get any update, all they did was get us to where we should have been initially and drop us...
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Well stated but HTC and Samsung actually update their devices and they have a working life cycle of more than eight months.
Sony Ericsson launches an outdated OS, updates it to what it should have been at release, like you said, and then abandons ship so you can buy a new device.
augie7107 said:
Well stated but HTC and Samsung actually update their devices and they have a working life cycle of more than eight months.
Sony Ericsson launches an outdated OS, updates it to what it should have been at release, like you said, and then abandons ship so you can buy a new device.
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that's what I was saying when I said " htc is doing it with desire, samsung is doing it with galaxy s"
They are older than x10, they have released new models, yet they are both getting 2.3....
They will never release 2.3. but we have enough realy good devs. They will. J's 2.3.3 CM7 is pretty good (v10 2 days without wlod and great performance. So who carrs about SE?
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+1
it would be way better if we have the bootloader cracked (i think we are getting close)
augie7107 said:
SE is done supporting the X10.
What would be your incentive to drop another $600 USD on an Arc if they gave 2.3 to X10 owners?
We won't even see 2.2, officially.
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+1
for me no more SE
lool123 said:
+1
for me no more SE
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+1 for me to no more SE
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+1
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maybe, just maybe only when they've reached the sales qouta for their new xperia arc... if not, they will only spoilt the market... even by then, they may not release it, they cannot be bothered with it, as there will be another new phone and the xperia arc, will falls into the same predicament as the X10... this vicious cycle will go on and on for a long long time...
at least the other brands will keep producing the updates.. i will not hold my hope too high for Sony Ericssion, as this is not the 1st time they have done this and i'm sure that they will do it again...
i've paid quite a high price to learn from it and it's a lesson learned...
I will not buy another SE because they don't support there customers. If HTC and Samsung can do it, SE should. Although the build quality of my X10 is pretty awesome.
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no. I absolutely don't believe that sonyericsson will deliver official 2.3 ROM for X10.
I remember that someone from SE has announced this news.
ok mates!
I think sony's phone mechanics and developers are out of their mind cause they built SE x10i which is okay but later produced more and more xperias...
they builted all the xperias with about same specs and just put the old xperia behind like the x10i. Now buying a new xperia will be a big decision from now on not only xperia but also other sony ericssion phones!
what bad will come to us if they don't support customers later they will loose profits!
THERE IS NOT MUCH BLOODY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPECS! SO I mean wtf and why? why would sony just say "BY BY xperia x10i and later 2010 phones u were a good phone now mommy and daddy needs some time alone to make profit"
~~~not much bloody differerence!~~~~ just x10i multitouch is a bug and all same~~~~~~~~~~~~~!
Xperia™ PLAY
Xperia™ arc
Xperia™ neo
Xperia™ pro
Xperia™ X10
Xperia™ X10 mini
Xperia™ X10 mini pro
Xperia™ X8
don't buy any phone from sony! even buy a $2 china mobile but still not sony!
I have x10i so hm... I'll buy LG optimus 3D next month I guess!
Hahaha, and there WILL be 2.3.3 for X10i!
I knew it!
Haldi4803 said:
Hahaha, and there WILL be 2.3.3 for X10i!
I knew it!
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You, my friend, are clairvoyant.
Any idea what the winning lottery numbers will be tonight?
Keshukas said:
+1 for me to no more SE
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+1 for me only custom roms!
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Im from the future, do not tell everyone now, but we will have 2.3.3:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/03/25/update-on-xperia™-x10/
hello ! I want to buy a new android phone . I am considering X10 and Neo . It is difficult to choose . X10 has a 4' mon , cool looks , yet it only has 320MB ram and a unreal dual touch . otherwise , Neo has larger ram and a real dual touch but 3.7' mon and normal looks . but XDA also does lots of things with X10 (2.3 ROM , BOOTLOADER ), but Neo not .
I don't know how to choose between them .could you help me ?
( I'm from Hong Kong , however my English is so poor , i hope that you can understand what i say and forgive me . Thank you )
I'd get the neo since it's newer and will have an unlocked bootloader. Also the chipset is newer and better. It will receive much further updates why go with an older model if you don't have to? Unless maybe the price diff is substantial. I bought mine a couple months ago, and only because I got it used for 200.
mrmrchu said:
hello ! I want to buy a new android phone . I am considering X10 and Neo . It is difficult to choose . X10 has a 4' mon , cool looks , yet it only has 320MB ram and a unreal dual touch . otherwise , Neo has larger ram and a real dual touch but 3.7' mon and normal looks . but XDA also does lots of things with X10 (2.3 ROM , BOOTLOADER ), but Neo not .
I don't know how to choose between them .could you help me ?
( I'm from Hong Kong , however my English is so poor , i hope that you can understand what i say and forgive me . Thank you )
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X10 all the way.
SE are releasing official android 2.3.3 this year and the the devs at xda have recently bypassed the bootloader so custom kernals are on the way.
Very exciting times for X10!!!
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X10 all the way.
SE are releasing official android 2.3.3 this year and the the devs at xda have recently bypassed the bootloader so custom kernals are on the way.
Very exciting times for X10!!!
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I am afraid that the devs of X10 at XDA will not keep going to develop X10 ... and ram don't enough to run android ....
Neo definately. Sure the X10 is getting 2.3.3, but thats it. And yes, the X10 bootloader is cracked, not unlocked. The neo is newer and will recieve more attention, plus with an unlocked bootloader, which many devs will do wonders.
I would say the Neo is the right choice but I doubt it will get attention from SE
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I'd say go for Neo,
Its newer with many capabilities,
16M color, true Multitouch, Bravia Engine, and 2.3.3 out of the Box !
Just 3.7" does not make any difference !
For sure Neo is at the starting line and from now on there will be custom roms. It will have open boot loader though.
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Go for the NEO for sure, the only question would be how much you want to spend. Obviously the xperia will be cheaper and yes you can play and mess with it, upgrade and install new roms, but like stated before me, the neo comes with 2.3 and its a bit quicker (have not used one personally). Also, if it matters to you, sony will have more upgrades than the xperia. Hopes this helps
Neo is the X10 plus. There will be no doubt that there will be developers developing for the Neo, it's just a matter of time. Plus you will have the better chipset, Exmor camera w/front facing cam, HDMI out, Bravia Screen w/16 Million colors and a fully functioning Gingerbread out of the box. Plus, "support" may be better than the X10.
xperia NEO : it has mulitouch,16m colors,sony bravia engine,8mp camera with led flash,secondary vga camera for videocall,android v2.3 and 1ghz snapdragon processor,FM radio too,HDMI output .
xperia x10 : no multitouch , no 16 m colors , no bravia engine,8 mp camera bt no led flash , no secondary camera for videocall , i knw it will upgrade to 2.3.3 bt still running on 2.1 , no FM radio , no hdmi output .
now u can decide .. this is big different between x10 and neo ..
u should buy NEO instead of x10 ... bcs neo is better thn x10 ..
neo is also good looking smartphone
buy an iphone!! naw im just kidding, dont bash me now
Neo is more powerfull, X10 will be outdated soon or is already...
Obviously Neo is the right choice, but I would go for the Arc
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Obviously Neo is the right choice, but I would go for the Arc
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I like Arc so much ! but budget is limited ....
Neo!
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I totally agree with NEO, it is have much better specs than x10, and also latest sony technology(BE Mobile + eXmore<- if i got the spelling right.. )..
screen wouldn't gave much difference since they are almost the same resolution(if I'm not mistaken).
Hi all, since i heard the new xperia arc has its multitouch and 32fps cap removed, will the gingerbread upgrade come with it too? Will it also have a different kernal to allow wifi tethering? Will we also have like 16M colours?
I hope this would all happen
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I don't know about the others but I'm pretty sure we will get the fps unlock. I would be stupid for se to lock it again
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who knows? Anyone giving opinion here will be providing that, simply opinion. No one has any idea what the update will provide, as the press releases were very vague. Time will tell, I suppose.
fiscidtox said:
who knows? Anyone giving opinion here will be providing that, simply opinion. No one has any idea what the update will provide, as the press releases were very vague. Time will tell, I suppose.
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Yep! Agreed!
And if you wanna stay on top of this gingerbread release follow Rikard Skogberg over at the official SE blog. He updates with new posts often, and when more news comes about what the X10 will and will not get with the gingerbread release you'll probably get it there first.
The only 2 things id like to see are 16m colors and 32fps unlocked. Oh, and hopefully they leave the EV control on the stock camera.
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that person unkownx13 usually gave us some clues, someone should maybe pm them?!
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gingerbread in Q2/Q3 for X10 was planed not to impact ARC phone sale, given, clearing for X10 phone, without gingerbread, handly will ever clearing up the remining stock X10.
gingerbread already running with ARC, I do not see SE not able to deliever it, in my view, mostly, X10 gingerbread upgrade will end up same spec function with ARC. Also will never unlock bootloader to ensure, no impact to ARC sale business.
regards
James
that depends if the boot loader gets cracked / sony unlocks the bootloaders
For all I know, I love this phone but all that keeps it down us the sluggy touchscreen due to the 32FPS cap and I hate it.
The colors would be good also.
multitouch was said to be impossible due to the screens structure, but in the update I would hope also that the dualtouch isn't add pathetic as it is now.
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wifi tethering for sure as we can do that even now with apps like barnacle
and 32 fps cap would most probably removed..
but i am doubtful about 16M colors and unlocked bootloader
I just want root access in the gingerbread update.!
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The modification on the camera department makes me worry that we will loose the goodies of the camera . But only time can tell what comes in and what goes out.
Hopefully the devs come up with a 2.3 mod so we don't lose the features.
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A modified GB kernal would kick ass.
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The kernel for the 2.3.2 update should be 2.6.32pref9,the very same to the present kernel in the new Xperia products....
32fpscaps removal do not have too much hope.....SE will never give them such crisis.If we get it removed,most of us will keep our phone longer....They need people to butly their 3rd gan. Android phones.
Cheers,
L
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Im pretty sure sony will modify the x10 add here in Australia, and I suppose other countries, the x10 is quite popular and common, and I do not think that a lot of people have heard of the Xperia arc yet.
The contract plan area here is almost dominated by there x10 and Iphone.
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Is there a reason why the X10 comes with the 32 fps cap? Is it for battery life?
Yes,there is a reason.
The reason is that SE think that we will buy their new product by locking our phone
Cheers,
L
pngface said:
Is there a reason why the X10 comes with the 32 fps cap? Is it for battery life?
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aR_ChRiS said:
I just want root access in the gingerbread update.!
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Lol, I'm moving to Official GB, root or no root
Finally it will be possible to root
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I hope this would all happen
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I hope so!
16M colors, 32FPS cap removed and the same speed as the Arc gingerbread and I won't really mind not having rooting access for a while. That's all I want.
My friend want to exchange his nexus one for my x10 would.you guys do it i want to do a safe trade so i was wondering is it any.good? How is the forum support here in xda? And i wanna trade it because im bored of my x10
Thanks in advance people .
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Well, to me its kind of a latteral move as they are very similar hardware wise and both have dt issues. I'm sure the nexus one is or has been well supported but to me the x10 scene is really getting interesting with the kernals coming up. Nexus one will already have everything final. Boring to me.
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Thanks for the reply mate but i dont know i left an live wallpaper the one whit the water and.leaves thingy that comes stock for all android 2.1 and mine was lagging as hell and on the nexus was great lol
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As the Nexusone is basically a dev phone and has pretty much already had everything done to it, I would say keep your x10.
However if you have played your x10 out and want to play with something different, then why not?
I personally wont get rid of my x10 for sometime. New kernels coming out to modify it even more....
X10 is my friend
Thanks mates i have maked up my mind and im keeping my x10 for gingerbread 2.3.3 release by se and custom kernels is coming out soon
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Hey guys, first of all i want to thank all the developers for they help to make my x10 great. I dont know if I am writing on the correct place.. but whatever, i own a white xperia x10 and i want to change my phone and i am between Xperia x10 arc and Nexus S.. I dont know wich one to choose and wich one is better .. Which u think is better and why ? thanks
Id go for the arc, looks al lot better. And with the unlocked bootloader its got a nice future in terms of modding.
I'd agree, the Arc looks a lot better but out of the avaliable ROMs out there rdannar is coming up leaps and bounds.
He's doing a great ROM as part of X10Project that uses 2.3.4 and is based on the Nexus, but it easy to add the Arc filles that are dotted around through here using xrec like I ended up doing.
Arc for sure! And im not just saying that to be a SE fanboy. But if its possible, look at the galaxy s2 as well. Ive been looking at it more closely lately....and its got that "WOW" factor!
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does anyone agree with me that the x10 looks better than the arc seen one in town yesterday and wasnt very impressed but each to their own i guess
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samsung galaxy s2...
in 6 months you'll regret getting an arc, believe me. You want something dual core...
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samsung galaxy s2...
in 6 months you'll regret getting an arc, believe me. You want something dual core...
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agreed the s2 isa beast ofa phone
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yeah i also checked s2 but here in greece will be available in about 1 month :/
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yeah i also checked s2 but here in greece will be available in about 1 month :/
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Believe me, it will be worth the wait to go with a dual core phone... The cpu in the arc will be outdated very shortly, better to go with a phone with some lasting power
+1 for sg2 although it hasn't got style but it's got substance, it's the opposite for Arc
Yeah im kinnda with you on this one arc as far as the looks go but s2 for its power (dual core nd all of that)
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