Hey forum. I don't know about you but I hate how the puzzle unlock show up every time my screen turns off. Even if it's turned off for a second. If I remember correctly, my old ipod touch had a setting where you can have the unlock screen only come up after the device's screen had been off for a certain amount of time. I tried to find it in the vibrant settings but didn't see anything so I turned off the unlock security altogether. This past weekend i was messing with my friends droid x and it was doing what I wanted my vibrant to do.
Is there a way to set some kind of timer so the puzzle unlock only shows up when the screen is off for 5/10/15 minutes?
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in hit the lower left button go to setting hit that hit the display there you can change the screen timeout to 1-2 or 10 minutes and there (depending on your rom) you can change the screen lock as well
Sorry. When I said puzzle unlock, I meant pattern unlock. Im not trying to set the diplay off timer. I want to actually set a time for the pattern unlock so it doesnt come up every time my screen goes to sleep. I want to set it so that the security pattern unlock only shows up after my phones display has been off for five min. If I happen to turn on my phone before the 5 min, I want it to be the rugular slide android unlock. Sorry if I'm being unclear.
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dandab said:
Sorry. When I said puzzle unlock, I meant pattern unlock. Im not trying to set the diplay off timer. I want to actually set a time for the pattern unlock so it doesnt come up every time my screen goes to sleep. I want to set it so that the security pattern unlock only shows up after my phones display has been off for five min. If I happen to turn on my phone before the 5 min, I want it to be the rugular slide android unlock. Sorry if I'm being unclear.
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I don't think there is a way to disable it. There is a app called Widget locker that will let you put icons on your home screen. That way when your screen turns on just tap the app on your home screen with out unlocking your phone.
Hope this helps a little
nomadrider123 said:
I don't think there is a way to disable it. There is a app called Widget locker that will let you put icons on your home screen. That way when your screen turns on just tap the app on your home screen with out unlocking your phone.
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Just to clarify, widget locker is a replacement lock screen. It'll replace your current one.
I'd also recommend trying nolock, which removes the lockscreen altogether (not sure about a pattern unlock though)
Since I don't use a pattern unlock, I'm not quite sure how to help otherwise.
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Yea. If it gets to the point where I have to download an app, I think I'll just have to suck it up and live with it. I'll try to check out my friends phone the next time I see him to see if he's got a setting on his droid. And btw I'm using bionixV. Thanks
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I'm coming from Windows Mobile, where the lock screen is much more tame (and usable in my mind). If I'm actively using the phone and turn the screen off and then on again, it's smart enough to not lock it immediately. If I recall, there's even a setting for how long it needs to be off before it locks.
Is there any way to get my Vibrant to behave like this? I hate that I have to swipe my unlock every time I turn off and on again.
Ummmmm.....the only thing I can recall is to set the timeout higher before it turns off?? I think its defaulted at 30 secs but you can set it higher or even turn it off so you manually black out the screen with with the power button.
Dont know if thats what your looking for..
Not really. I usually turn off the screen to look up and talk to someone (for example), and then when I turn it back on, I don't want to have to unlock it.
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yea..I dunno.. I don't think you can disable the swype screen
There is an app on the market that you can use to totally disable the lock screen if you want. It's called no lock
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Or you can buy widgetlocker from the market. It has a gangload of options and to my knowledge let's you do just that
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I did disable lock altogether with Screen Tools 2, but that is not ideal. I couldn't see anything like what I wanted with widgetlocker. It allows a different timeout if the screen is turned on and locked, but that's not what I'm going for.
Anyone else have some help?
Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued.
Actually I dont, but thanks for the info
Go to
Settings/location and security/timeout
And set the lock screen to immediately
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DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued.
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A fix has not been issued but a workaround has been.
I have a feeling none of you will like the actual fix. The work around more like a fix. The only bug here is the pattern unlock screen showed up when it shouldn't. And it has nothing to do with security breach or not.
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Hello everyone,
I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
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NO WAY! I'm so glad you pointed this out for all of the rest of us.
dayv said:
Go to
Settings/location and security/timeout
And set the lock screen to immediately
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Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!!
my personal fix was to use No Lock to turn off that stupid swipe thing, and added WidgetLocker.
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Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!!
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No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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I set my timeout to "Immediately", let the screen go off, and have to enter pattern to get back in.
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No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon
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Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately:
1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern.
2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off.
3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern.
3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone.
The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen.
This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway.
foxbat121 said:
Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately:
1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern.
2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off.
3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern.
3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone.
The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen.
This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway.
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Have you actually gave this try. I completely understand how the time out period works and I guess we all do, but your not getting where the bugs are in plural because there's two I found.
Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in
Bug 2. If you set time out to immediately. The Password protection lockscreen disabled right after you unlock your phone.
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Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in
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That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately.
I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock.
Don't understand what your mean in bug #2.
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That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately.
I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock.
Don't understand what your mean in bug #2.
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Dude, it's buggy period. Before you even go any further. Give the lock screen a try. It's all around the Internet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbjr4tf_Nk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read.
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I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read.
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I like the feature; same as on Honeycomb.
I feel annoyed whenever I want to have pattern lock on, because that means I have to press the top button to turn on the phone, then unlock the phone iwth the HTC ring, then use my pattern?
I was with a buddy today and he has the SGII on Rogers, and he doesn't have a lock screen if he decides to use pattern.
Anyway around this?
If you use a nonsense rom I think the ring lock is gone there may also be tweaks for this. I must admit I lol'd to the 'is this real life??' I haven't looked into it much besides that. On the bright side, with it set up this way you can still control music from the 'lock screen' unlike if there was just the pattern. From what I know.
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There is an app I use called NoLock that disables this. I think you have to run it every time you reboot, though.
Edit: Not sure if it will disable the pattern lock as well or not, I prefer no lock screen at all.
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There is an app I use called NoLock that disables this. I think you have to run it every time you reboot, though.
Edit: Not sure if it will disable the pattern lock as well or not, I prefer no lock screen at all.
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You cant use any other lock with that app. :<
feels bad man
I noticed today that my screen lock isn't working most of the time. Anyone else having this problem? I've tried resetting it without luckluck
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If you mean using a PIN or pattern then yes, I have noticed this. If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen. This is the same security bug that the skyrocket had. You can bypass the bug by setting the timer to immediate but that is such a pain to put in your in your PIN every time the screen times out...
planoman said:
If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen.
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That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
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That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
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Accidentally press the power button? I have never done that. I understand about the timer, but it should require a PIN if you lock the phone with the button. I tested this on my International GNote and my skyrocket (after the security fix) and they both work as they should...if it is not a bug it is not the same as the other Samsung phones running touchwiz 4. It is not a big deal but it does exit.
Edit: It was the SGSII on ATT not the skyrocket with the security bug.
The timer is there for this purpose:
* for most ppl who like the convienence of not to use PIN all the time, timer is a great feature. You only need PIN when you let it idle for a while.
* for those paranoid, set the timer to immediate and you get what you want.
There is no security issue. It's a new feature introduced in GB.
Remember, for most ppl, power button is a key/screen touch lock so that they can safely pocket the phone without worrying about butt dialing.
Bingo. You get the best of both worlds depending on your needs. I'm very happy mine doesn't lock right away.
planoman - don't worry, you'll hit the power button. In landscape mode it is right where your fingers sit (or if you have it the other way the volume button is right there).
Let me make this easier:
1. It is not a big deal.
2. It is not that way on my skyrocket or International GNote which have GB.
3. I understand about the timer. It works fine once the time set elapses.
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
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Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
Let me make it easier for you to understand, the purpose of lock timer is to enable the lock screen when your phone idles pass the timer. Hit power button mearly inidcates that you are indeed put the phone into idle state, not start lock the phone. The actual lock won't be required until the timers elapses. This is a convienence feature so that more ppl will use the PIN lock on their phone (a good thing). A lot of ppl I know don't use PIN lock simply because they don't want to be bothered to entry PIN every 5 seconds. Yes, most ppl use power button to turn off the screen to save battery as well as avoid unintentional action on the phone. They don't use power button to LOCK the phone.
Since you like to use power button to LOCk the phone, you should set the timer to immdiate and call it a day.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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The reporters who called it security flaw don't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing. And we all know how BGR is ALWAYS correct on Android stuff
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
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Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
The reporters who called it security flaw doesn't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing.
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
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You know that feeling when you know you are right and someone is trying to argue a point and they just don"t get it? yeah..I have that feeling right now. Give it up. I know exactly what I am talking about.
If this was not a problem why did Samsung release a statement on it and deploy a fix for the ATT SGSII? It was for pattern lock ot PIN lock. Just because you do not use the phone like that does ot mean it is working as it should. Have you tried it on any other Samsung phones? I have stated that I tried it on two other Samsung phone running 2.3.6 and you are still arguing...
Stop trying to prove a point that cannot be proven. It is a bug, it is not designed to work that way and if you never ever want to intentionally lock your phone BEFORE the lock timer elapses then great! No problem for you!
From Android Central:
http://www.androidcentral.com/major-security-flaw-found-atts-upcoming-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-device
Please, Android central simple reposted the same thing from other blogs. They all do the same reposting each other without thinking. So, that's not really any proof.
This has been discussed throughly in the SGS2 forum.
The fact remains, most of us think power button not as lock button but you do. That's the only difference. And the current implementation benifits both sides. That's the point.
I understand what you are saying perfectly. I do use a PIN I have the lock timer set to ten miuntes for the reasons you stated. Normally I do not want to enter my PIN code every time...that said, there are times when I do want to hit the power button to shut the screen off or lock the phone BEFORE the 10 minutes will elapse. An example would be at home when I set my phone down so that if my kids grab it they cannot hit the power button and I come back to a screen that has my icons rearranged or missing etc. Or at a meeting in a conference room when I leave my phone sitting in the room or bag for a break etc, I usually do lock the phone just in case some one picks up my phone or worse steals it. They just need to touch the screen every nine minutes and they will have access to all of my stuff.
I get your points and do understand. My point was just because many do not use the power or lock button to intentionally lock the screen, does not mean the ATT Gnote is funtioning as designed or at least other Samsung phones with 2.3.6 and touchwiz.
So OP, it this what you were speaking of or did we miss your point entirely?
I use power button to turn off screen almost exclusively. Rarely I ever let screen timeout to turn the screen off for me. I'd be really pissed and call BUG if power button immediately lock the phone. My lock time out is set to 30 minutes so that I don't need to enter PIN in normal situations but have a piece of mind if I left my phone somewhere, it will be locked after 30 minutes.
In the old Windows Mobile days, you can hit power button the turn off the screen but you also can press and hold End Call button to lock the phone. Two separate buttons for two separate functions.
That is how my other two Sammy are as well as my captivate, og atrix, attic 2 were.
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
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Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
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Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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You are right. I mis-read. I'm already on 15-sec screen time out. It is still too long for me when I'm done using the phone and need to put into my pocket.
Then add a small app to your home screen which will give you 1-touch phone lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidmania.lockscreenwidget&feature=search_result
There are many others - some appear to lock and shut the screen down, some just lock.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
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I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
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The new time out features are introduced in GingerBread. So, I'm sure the Captivate with the new GB udpate will have the similar feature now.
They may have changed it, but as you said it is not the way other Samsung phones have been. Not a big deal for me, but I wanted folks who have like a 30 minute timer on the lockscreen to know their phone is not locked when they use the power button to turn off the screen like it would have been with other Samsung phones.
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There are situations where I want to immediately lock my phone: e.g. I'm charging it at my desk and have to run away for a meeting or something. In that case I just want to lock it immediately and go. I don't want to put it to sleep because because it's not really locked in that mode. With my old "dumb" phone, I could just hold down one of the keys (* or #) and it would be locked. But I can't figure out how to do that with the Amaze. I found a one-touch option for turning wifi off/on and changing the sound profile but nothing for locking the screen.
I searched the manual and online but could only find how to customize the lock screen, not a one-touch solution. There must be one right?
I'm not running stock, but I thought there was an option have it lock immediately after it's put to sleep. The option is there in CM anyway.
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There are situations where I want to immediately lock my phone: e.g. I'm charging it at my desk and have to run away for a meeting or something. In that case I just want to lock it immediately and go. I don't want to put it to sleep because because it's not really locked in that mode. With my old "dumb" phone, I could just hold down one of the keys (* or #) and it would be locked. But I can't figure out how to do that with the Amaze. I found a one-touch option for turning wifi off/on and changing the sound profile but nothing for locking the screen.
I searched the manual and online but could only find how to customize the lock screen, not a one-touch solution. There must be one right?
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Screen lock and off app. You can set it to lock on long press of the search button, or just add a shortcut to your home screen or Dock.
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