I am just wondering if whether or not I should or need to be going back to stock when installing new ROMs or if I should just disable Voodoo or if I even need to do that.
It seems with newer ROMs the updates dont require you to disable Voodoo, just flash over. But what if I want to go from Bionix V to Auxura 2.2.9.0? Do I need to go back to stock and then root/flash? Or will just disabling Voodoo work? Or should I just flash and go?
I have searched and see different ways to do things but not a clear answer on if I should be doing that or if its necessary when going between ROMs.
Also if I have overlooked a thread on this I think it should be stickied or in the NOOB guide.
Thanks.
Your going to get different opinions on this. If your going to flash the newest version of the rom your on then there is really no need to odin. If your going to a.completely different rom then yes go ahead and odin. Of course its never a bad idea to start fresh.
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If you Odin back to stock you lose all information including titanium backup right? You really are starting from scratch if you do this correct?
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If you Odin back to stock you lose all information including titanium backup right? You really are starting from scratch if you do this correct?
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No. You will still have your files when you odin.
It's safer to disable voodoo then odin then flash custom rom. Well that's what i do, though you can odin without disabling voodoo.
iynfynity said:
No. You will still have your files when you odin.
It's safer to disable voodoo then odin then flash custom rom. Well that's what i do, though you can odin without disabling voodoo.
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Thanks for the quick reply! I am still new to loading custom ROMs on this. I am coming from the HD2 which was the easiest phone to load custom ROMs on I think.
Another tidbit of advice, if you're updating a rom (e.g. going from Axura 2.2.7.2 to Axura 2.2.9.0) you don't need to disable Voodoo.
Even if you're changing roms (e.g. TW Bionix-V to Axura 2.2.9.0) in theory, you shouldn't need to disable Voodoo, I've done it successfully. This works because both are running Voodoo v5.x and up, and both roms have Voodoo enabled off the bat.
Some older roms running Voodoo V4.x CANNOT be flashed over each other and Voodoo must be disabled before flashing.
There's no real harm in disabling Voodoo and flashing over it, but if you forget, the worse that's going to happen is you'll have to odin back to stock.
I have never odin to stock before applying another rom and have not had any issues. I always disable voodoo and wipe/factory reset before applying a new rom. I think odining to stock to apply a different rom is waste of time and not needed. Look at the directions of installing Flagship and that's the best way to go from rom to rom.
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I am unhappy with ji6, my gps and compass no longer work and i've had nothing but problems since the update. also the call waiting dial screen lag sucks. I would like to go back to my previous rom which was basically stock rooted with ji2 gps fix and accurate battery mod. I have this saved as a backup, but I am afraid to flash it. When I flashed the new ota update it bricked my phone. I was unble to load my previous backup through clockwork recovery. I had to completely wipe my data and start over. any advice on the safety of trying to flash back to my backup rom, will it conflict with the ji6 framework?
Thanks
There should be no issues at all. I assume you still have the stock kernel too... if you had an oc kernel I would go back to stock first.
just go to rom manager and click on restore, then select your old backup... should take you to cwr and reboot when done.
My first thought was to download a custom rom. I just flashed bionix 1.7 and it seems much better than stock JI6.
I would really urge doing that...
yeah, maybe i'll try bionix first, It's just that I was really happy with the way it ran before this stupid update.
I also was fond of my setup before the update. Bionix made it better again. Hope you like it, worst case go back to stock.
I will say I would make sure you can revert to stock from bionix. I have seen a number of posts with issues, but that may be from people who had the oc kernel? I can't say with certainty.
Same here, i flashed bionix (first time using bionix) I flashed bionic 1.7 w ji2 modem oc/uv no voodoo and this thing flies! Gps is fine, navigation is usable.
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There should be no issues at all. I assume you still have the stock kernel too... if you had an oc kernel I would go back to stock first.
just go to rom manager and click on restore, then select your old backup... should take you to cwr and reboot when done.
My first thought was to download a custom rom. I just flashed bionix 1.7 and it seems much better than stock JI6.
I would really urge doing that...
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I tried flashing back to my backup...(stock, rooted with bat mod and ji2 gps fix) and it got stuck in the vibrant startup screen, same as when I ran the ota. I guess my previous setup is no longer an option. Before I try another rom and have to redo all of settings and apps again, I would like to try to at least get the gps working on the ota ji6. Any advice on how to do that would be appreciated. So far I have tried all of the things I was able to find in other threads...deleted gps data, made sure lbstest settings are stock, turned off wireless, etc. I still get no locks at all.
Is bionix really that good? I'm considering it. I'm on my stock rom, stock kernel.
I think i'm going to try it out.
I tried searching to get s concrete answer but I didn't have any luck. I currently have voodoo but its disabled. Its it safe to use ron manager to flash an alternate rom, also is it safe to do the latest fascinate update? Thanks.
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Yes, both should be safe but you should do a Nandroid before you do anything, just in case (which is possible since Voodoo is disabled).
OK, I think I understand how Voodoo reacts with ROMs but I really wish someone would make a really descriptive post. Here is my question:
I know I can't make a nandroid backup when using Voodoo but is there any other limitations? Can I flash a new ROM? Can I use my phone like normal? Can I flash a new kernal?
Flashing ROMs should not be affected by Voodoo. Flashing kernels also should not be a problem so long as the kernel supports Voodoo!
If you flash a non-Voodoo kernel without disabling Voodoo very bad things will happen.
I had zero problems when rooting and flashing my G1, but now with my Vibrant I am not sure what I did.
A few excellent stickies at the top but I seem to not be making any progress.
Here are the steps I took.
I had a stock Vibrant running 2.1
I downloaded ROM Manager, installed clockwork mod.
Did a backup of my current system ( was I supposed to do a clockwork AND nandroid?)
Downloaded and successfully installed a ROM called Blackhole 1.0
it runs ok but didn't give me the option to switch from 3G to EDGE data, and then I couldn't get internet access at all so i decided to restore my original stock vibrant system.
So I rebooted into recovery, selected restore (my phone won't go into recovery anymore for some reason) and waited, it took a while, then I rebooted (forgot to wipe), but it just got stuck on the Vibrant screen. So I booted into recovery mode again and wiped just user data not cache and rebooted, same thing stuck at Vibrant.
Now i keep hearing about something called ODIN, what I can tell it is some kind of flasher program for ROMS, nobody seems to give any kind of link or anything, is it greymarket or something?
So where am I now? I think the excellent noob guide needs to be updated a bit more.
My phone can get into download mode (whatever it is for i don't know) but it won't get into recovery mode anymore.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
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I have done the samething as you, coming from a nexus one it seemed easier to flash roms without worrying about downgrading kernels or what not. Recently I was on Nero froyo and flashed to a different rom, and tried to revert back but ended up stuck at the vibrant screen. Think it has something to do with voodoo lag.
Anyways I had to use Odin with the no brick froyo off ebproductions. Ran that and uploaded clockwork, reinstalled voodoo lag fix and was able to nandroid back to my Nero set up. Somewhat of a pain but once you've done it, no need to worry about bricking
xtone said:
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111
i think what happened to you is you flashed a 2.2 ROM then tried to revert back to 2.1 without doing the proper downgrading steps i.e. you did not flash a 2.1 kernel first.
but since you can get to download mode.. just flash stock JFD or JI6 through ODIN and you should be good.
good luck
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So the steps that are in this page?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
GreggoryD502 said:
Once you get back to stock don't give up on the 2.2 toms. Try axura or nero. They might have a few minor bugs but its way better then stock 2.1.
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Well as long as I can use Odin if I f-up royally like above then I might give it a shot.
Need to read about downgrading kernals or whatever. Might just wait for Cyanogen 6.1
Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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Just so you know, the backup utility in Rom Manager (clockwork) is really just shortcut to a nandroid backup.
The way I have things set up for backups, and this is just for my personal convenience, is as follows...
I have a stock JFD ODIN rom to flash in case anything goes wrong. (A lot of people here will tell you to flash this whenever flashing a new rom. It is safer, and cleaner to do it this way, but not absolutely necessary)
I make a nandroid of my last stable rom (I only keep one at a time cause the files are huge) and keep a backup of that on my PC.
I backup all my apps and a few other things (call logs, bookmarks, sms) through Titanium backup. If you get the pro version, you can load it up after flashing a new rom and have it automatically restore all your apps in one click (system settings can be dangerous to restore when going from rom to rom, so be careful with those.) I also keep a backup of this on my PC.
I will also occasionally backup both of the sd cards to the PC.
Maybe overkill, but you probably wont ever lose anything forever.
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OK I will just do the long way from now on. I use this phone on AT&T, I was worried that I flushed $500 down the toilet but ever since i modded my first phone way back in the day i've been addicted.
Running Odin and my phone is in download mode, about to flash this b**ch.
wish me luck.
I flashed Odin on my phone to revert to stock. Re-Rooted it but now I can't flash Clockworkmod. Please help D:
use the update.zip posted here. You want B.
Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
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Hello guys. I currently have Eugene Gingerbread Clone R2 Rom with JL4 Voodoo Lag Fix on my Vibrant.
I want to try other roms for fun. I have some apps and my contacts and stuff backed up and also the entire rom itself. i also have the Stock (Rooted) Backed up as well. My question is how do i go about going back to the "Stock Rooted" safely without using the odin program.
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Well, assuming you have ALL of your apps and data and contacts and such backed up with Titanium Pro (make sure, you don't want to lose this stuff!), just reboot into clockwork recovery.
NEXT DISABLE VOODOO OR DIE.
I'm also assuming you made a backup of your "stock rooted rom" with Clockwork Mod Recovery? Now, just reboot into that green clockwork recovery and go to nandroid or backup and restore and click RESTORE.
Yes i have my stock rooted backed up and also my gingerbread rom backed up as well and also some of the important apps and my contacts backed up.
I will give it a try now.
I don't think it worked lol. Screen shows "Searching"
Sweep screen to unlock but screen is black and i cannot do anything.
cannot seem to get back to recovery either
Bob forgot a very important step, flashing a 2.1 kernal...
Best way out is to just flash another Froyo rom through clockwork since you don't want to mess with Odin.
I recommend Axura 2.2.5.7 as well as Nero V3. Go get those and see what you think.
*Edit* just saw your post 1min before mine. You may be using Odin after all.
Ok Thx. Makes sense lol
Nah i only use Rom Manager.
Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
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Ok i'm back to my Gingerclone.. I'm going to find Eclair 2.1 kernel, i assume thats the one i need to get and yes i will make sure to disable voodoo before i flash the 2.1 kernel .
Thx.
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If you just want to flash other roms, you don't have to return to 2.1 IMO.
Just backup everything (Titanium/Nand/Launcher Pro if used), then clear data and cache in clockwork. After that go to install zip from SD and select the new Rom which should be sitting on your internal 16g memory and let it do it's thing.
Ok well i tried other roms. I tried Nero V3, That one was bad, internet was uber slow and Gps doesn't work.
I tried Axura 2.2.5.7, Worked very well except Gps also does not work.
Right now i'm going to stick with my Gingerbread R2 as for everything works extremely well.
hi
im new to Samsung and android, i want to test out some
ROMS. my phone was bought secondhand and it came pre
loaded with the details in my signature.
i have read through most of the newbie guide lines here on
this site on how to flash but nowhere (as for what i saw)
does not mention on how to test if your phone has a lagfix or by
which method.
as i have read you got to turn off the lag fix before flashing ROM's
so how do i turn mine off.
thanks
HtcDia
*** my current phone details are in my signature ***
Thank you for posting in the correct section and reading some material before posting!
As to your question, if you are completely stock (rooted or not), your Vibrant does NOT have a lag fix enabled. Most of the newer Roms allows for flashing over a lag-fixed (Voodoo) enabled kernel, but only if it comes equipped with a Voodoo injected kernel.
Basically
No lagfix enabled -> Can flash any rom (voodoo kernel or non voodoo kernel)
Lag fix enabled (Voodoo) -> Can flash roms with Voodoo kernel without turning off Voodoo | Must disable Voodoo to flash non-Voodoo kernels
edit: I'm not sure if that is the answer you're looking for but if you go to the red CWM recovery, you can go to Voodoo -> Disable Voodoo. If you do not have a red recovery, then most likely you do not have a Voodoo enabled kernel, thus do not have a lagfix in place. (I assume you also did not use One-Click Lagfix)
thanks anthonys2r
i have not seen either voodoo or anything pertaining to it on my phone nor
have i done the one click fix.
so i can safely assume that i do not have one in place.
thanks for the answer it is perfect
HtcDia
^ You may want to start "fresh" and use ODIN to go back to stock... very easy process (check my signature).
You likely DO have a lagfix (ext4 "voodoo"). But, if your next rom has voodoo enabled, it will not matter if you disable it or not.
There is an app, Voodoo toggle in the market you can use... or you can reboot into CWR and go to the voodoo section. It will also tell you.
Here is the Simply Honey ROM THREAD
Not sure if you were planning on updating or trying a new rom... if the latter, really recommend going back to stock again. I would also encourage Trigger 3.2... its 2.2 but it's stable/themed well!
opening a terminal emulator and typing the command: mount should tell you what file system you're running. Unless everything lists RFS you have a lagfix enabled. If not just 3-button to recovery and scroll down to voodoo... It will tell you inside if it's activated or not.
s15274n
It's funny you should suggest that i should checked your signature
because most of the stuff that i have gathered initially till present
came from your links LOL.
thanks for providing them as they are great material for android scardy
noobs like me.
yes i do have voodoo. i actually found it lol.
if im right what i want to do is now upgrade my version.1 Simply Honey ROM
to another stable version just to get a feel of flashing and stuff
thanks
HD
Good stuff man.... glad that it helped.
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Good stuff man.... glad that it helped.
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On a related question, i can't initiate voodoo for some reason. I read the log and it said "model not detected". Anyway to correct this?
I cant seem to enable voodoo on my phone I have trigger 3.2 and I flashed overstock 1.5.2UV, I'm coming back from CM7 and I don't have the red clockwork recovery either? What can I flash to get this going I have Voodoo toggle that doesn't work neither does voodoo control ...
Did you odin back to stock and then flash Trigger and Overstock?
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On a related question, i can't initiate voodoo for some reason. I read the log and it said "model not detected". Anyway to correct this?
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Mine says the same thing anyway to correct this...I've already odin, wiped, re partition with odin and still nothing
jneal9 said:
Did you odin back to stock and then flash Trigger and Overstock?
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Yes I did, I'm going to do a few more things to see if I can get it to work
Hm. When booting Trigger for the first time did you hear the voice enabling voodoo?
No Im sure it has to do with CM7 file systems or something...
If you odin'd back and checked repartition that should have wiped the CM7 filesystem and reverted it back to stock RFS.
And you are on Trigger and don't have the red Clockwork?
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If you odin'd back and checked repartition that should have wiped the CM7 filesystem and reverted it back to stock RFS.
And you are on Trigger and don't have the red Clockwork?
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I did check repartition it didn't work log file in voodoo folder still says model not detected, Im about to see what happen when I flash trigger 3.2 again I formated system in CWM and odin with repartition checked....
still nothing dam...
Just read another possible solution in a different thread that I didn't think of...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096439
Try to use Eugene's odin rom, and then go back to stock JFD and see if that fixes it.
I got it you have to odin Eugene's froyo that doesn't brick, then I used Eugene's 2.2 Downgrade odin flashed that annnnnndddddd now I'm flashing Trigger and I can hear Lindas voice now
Happy flashing.