Don't know if anyone saw this, but it seems there's MORE updates coming for the X10. I still haven't 'officially' gotten the .435 update, and there's more on the way!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11108880&postcount=39
Anyone have any idea what these updates might be regarding?
looks like their going to make their way up to 2.2 o.0
on that voting page they did say they would look into it
so we never know xD
They said there won't be any updates to higher Android versions...
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
im not gonna discuss that.... just check date that its signed they put look into on
Hmm .. I'd appreciate a 2.2 update. In a perfect world, they would be releasing a 2.3 ROM - but I'll take whatever I can get.
On another note - I know it's been discussed to death - but I'm having trouble finding a straight answer - is the screen on the X10 capable of "true" multi-touch? I know there's the update for pinch-and-zoom, but that's kind of a half-assed solution. I still can't play many games because it seems to lag registering the multi-touch, screwing up games as light as Mario. Can the digitizer not physically handle true multi-touch (like the crossing axis issue), or is it a driver issue, that MAYBE could one day be reformed to have multi-touch capabilities like those of pretty much any other Android smartphone?
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Give this a watch too - Posting And You
There's no real need to start a new thread to discuss something in an existing thread.
I suggest you ask what the updates are in that thread you linked to
Related
I just read this morning that SE UK will NOT be upgrading the Xperia past Eclair! I wondered if there was a way to flash Froyo or Gingerbread? If there is can someone point me to an idiots guide?
I am dual booting my computer with Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit. so I can use any software (Ubuntu preferably)
Can anyone help?
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If you'd browsed the page you've posted on or searched you would already know.
Hi,
sorry but that's not the right Section. It's a question so its right in Question Section.
But the answer is no. You have to wait for a release from Sony Ericsson.
It's not only Android, each Phone must have its drivers for working proberly with the Operating System. In some cases those are closed source and these things shaping the walls many devs here bashing against.
@XperiaX10iUser
Sometimes a link is enough!
mr_at_sgs said:
But the answer is no. You have to wait for a release from Sony Ericsson.
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Not entirely true, or have you not visited the development section lately.
mr_at_sgs said:
Sometimes a link is enough!
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You would think, you'd also think people would read the stickys, especially the one at the top of each section that says...
>>>>>>>>please read this now!!!<<<<<<<
XperiaX10iUser said:
Not entirely true, or have you not visited the development section lately.
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A totally unexperienced user should risk to flash such alpha versions? He cannot even read stickies!!!
XperiaX10iUser said:
Not entirely true, or have you not visited the development section lately.
You would think, you'd also think people would read the stickys, especially the one at the top of each section that says...
>>>>>>>>please read this now!!!<<<<<<<
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So you spam it all the more whilst your on your high horse, yes its frustrating as its always the same old questions asked, leave it to the mods to police
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
mr_at_sgs said:
A totally unexperienced user should risk to flash such alpha versions? He cannot even read stickies!!!
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Mabye not, the point is it's possible to flash Froyo, granted not official and buggy, but still doable.
blad69 said:
So you spam it all the more whilst your on your high horse, yes its frustrating as its always the same old questions asked, leave it to the mods to police
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It's more frustrating to see threads posted about threads that already exist, on the exact same page.
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Already reported, and doing my bit as a dedicated member to point out to new users what they clearly missed before posting.
I didn't make this thread, I just wanna to spread it to almost all devices.
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It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
some of the threads are device-specific. It would take some time for the newbies to learn to post properly. But it's a learning curve. They would make it thru. I did, in a matter of one week.
Should I be really honest? Many users write extra garbage stuff, so they can take notes on the DEVS. That stinks.
It's true deilnefle, I'm doing it... I think that the rules of the forum should be reviewed, just because be a new user doesn't mean that we are noob.
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It's true deilnefle, I'm doing it... I think that the rules of the forum should be reviewed, just because be a new user doesn't mean that we are noob.
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Yes it does, acctually its ones definition.
Little harsh... ive used this place for the Hero and Galaxy S2 a lot and see these "USE SEARCH!" posts all the time.
I appreciate the work, voluntary, the site, the resources - A+ to you all, plaudits all around, and a big TY to both Googles Open Source and the communities dedication. These things are designed to become obselete, you lot keep them going
But the standard shouts, moans, and groans for pretty innocent questions borders on bullying. Half the people haven't much experience at this kind of thing, a reply with a link would help a lot and prob take 2 secs from the regulators.
Obviously therell be some spam and crap and morons about, but hopefully in the minority. Don't forget the human side please.
The older devices should really be left at an operable level, too. Why force , say, Gingerbread or ICS into something that will run like a dog? Just because you can?
Android versions come pretty rapidly and the vast array of devices and hacks and tools to root/bootload them means there's a million different ways things can be done.
I'd also say once a kernel/loader/rom is able to run the basic Google stuff, access the market, make calls, emails, and sms then its ready to ship. The longer work on bug fixing can just be done over time. EG Leomar/Checkrom on the Galaxy S2 has a rom-kitchen app, an easy way to add features, themes, kernels etc. If you have to, CWM and Rom Manager can do it through the bootloader too.
Just my 2c worth. Don't mean to sound negative and I understand it's a tech-focused forum but sometimes it does get silly. Like a NEW BEST ROM EVER! (standard source, slightly modified, bit of eye candy) or things like that.
In other words, it's mostly hacking features in (and out) that goes on, taking code from other places, altering a few init files etc - plus a big shout out too the theme designers and icon makers...
(just never forget you're working off someone elses code most of the time, and It's nice to see you all share, but don't take all the plaudits and scream at anyone who asks why app xxxx has stopped working....)
Calm down dear, it's only an Android!
It's a ***** we have to post 10 post in order to post in dev forums
no:2
My Xperia X10 Mini stucked while start and show error msg
Due to sms service blocked i was repairing my Xperia X10 Mini but while updating it shows some kind of error and now it stucked and does not turn on neither connect to PC Companion. Help mei have the only mobile is Xperia X10 Mini.
Dude if ur phone is stuck or bricked u can use sony ericsson pc companion software...
just click on update software and follow the instructions and 2.1 version will be installed back!
any1 knows are we ever gonna get 16 million support or not can any xda developer giive us support for 16 million colours and for all the ppl who want to critisize by saying that we dont need it or they are happy with display just try playing the following gameloft hd games - gangstar,assains creed,hero of sparta ot any other good hd,3-d game.....
if sony gets its way, never.
but if i remember correctly, i read somewhere that it is possible once the boot loader is cracked. so keep your fingers crossed
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Have you noticed the thread with the same name in Q&A sector?
Tehouster said:
Have you noticed the thread with the same name in Q&A sector?
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YES I NOTICED SAME THREAD under QandA i read all the posts and replies and everything but from that post i could not get any clear idea xda guys can make it or not
arizhasan said:
if sony gets its way, never.
but if i remember correctly, i read somewhere that it is possible once the boot loader is cracked. so keep your fingers crossed
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sony would never do so and i have read in unofficial xperia blog of people demanding fr boot loader by cursing S.E i think xda guys can give ur hardware full power if they get that stuff
avidahiya said:
YES I NOTICED SAME THREAD under QandA i read all the posts and replies and everything but from that post i could not get any clear idea xda guys can make it or not
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Then there was no need to start a new thread and SHOULD HAVE posted your question on the original thread!
[Q] 16 Million Colours
XperiaX10iUser said:
Then there was no need to start a new thread and SHOULD HAVE posted your question on the original thread!
[Q] 16 Million Colours
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i am new to this fourm so i did not know the rules thanx fr telling
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Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
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Hy everybody !
first excuse me for my poor english
Want to know if someone will port the miui rom to the x10 ? Trip was doing a great job but it seems that that he stoped he's work on this fantastic rom ...
Can some competent dev make a port of the miui rom to our x10 ? is it possible or too difficult ?
thx
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
Tehouster said:
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
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There is nothing about MIUI...
Tehouster said:
again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897283
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again what ?
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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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these are all his themes, including the MIUI also.
Trip did not finish this rom and i want to know if someone will continue he's work and finish the port of the miui rom on the x10
lunatik49 said:
Trip did not finish this rom and i want to know if someone will continue he's work and finish the port of the miui rom on the x10
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Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
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What you mean like all these other devs taking googles work and passing off as their own? Please.
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Or maybe someone can continue their own work that someone tried to pass off as their own.
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Are you talking about the someone(s) that promised miui to all those who donated and then didn't deliver, or the someone who actually tried to deliver on his promises, allthough using questionable methods (if "stop using my files" is a reasonable argument when using open source in an open source developers forum) I wonder what would happen if SE said "stop using our files"...
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Ironic hypocricy considering the free and open source nature of the code with which these people work with. Anyone would think we were talking about the theft of intellectual property the way some of these morons are whining. Not only is it absurd, but it also goes to show that their smarts are not directly proportional to their level of maturity.
"waaaahhh u stole ma codez &@!!"
Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers.
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Im away from the scene for a week and all this **** happens.. The one rom i was looking forward too had to be cancelled I am gonna go stalk trip and find out where he lives and kidnap him and make him finish the rom (honestly, i really do miss him)
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Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers.
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Spoke like true DEV
Thank you for all your work.
rdannar said:
Im going to try and port a mix of a nexus rom and use some of j and z code to cook a rom soon.. im kinda new to cooking so we will see.
It will be a miui rom... cross your fingers
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Care to add me on skype, and teach me some basic things you do when porting . Cant seem to understand what files should be replaced.
Merithong
Send from my Albanian GX10 2.2
Some news ?
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Im away from the scene for a week and all this **** happens.. The one rom i was looking forward too had to be cancelled I am gonna go stalk trip and find out where he lives and kidnap him and make him finish the rom (honestly, i really do miss him)
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I also miss that ROM :'(
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Some news ?
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Would interest me too :/
This ROM was/is amazing
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Man why did Trip leave the new MIUI Update was almost ready.
rdannar: Do you think you can get MIUI to work?
Looks like Trip might be coming back...........
Trixter66 posted on a few threads that Trip PM'D him a told him he was still cooking and coming back soon!!!
Miui n CM7 anyone???????????????????????
Lets see if we can at least remember the one n only cyanogenmod RULE.... Never ask for an ETA.................. I think this should apply to all DEV threads!
Patience is a virtue, and manslaughter is a felony!!! HEHEHEHEH!!!!
Best regards,
Chris
This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-Phone-users, and the forum name says it best. As in any developer forum, RTFM should be rightfully expected from users. I am here to help people and that includes helping them HELP THEMSELVES. As it was once expected of us senior members to search for answers that were answered already, we in turn now expect the new generation of Android users to search.
In fact, Android was developed by Google [the world's largest SEARCH giant]. Search being the key word. Search is such a big deal that every Android phone has a search button on it or built in to it. So this should provide you with incentive to actively use the search feature built into this and every other forum on the web.
I am not here to hurt your precious feelings, nor am I here to avoid at all costs the possibility that you're overly sensitive and tiptoe on eggshells to interact with you. At times my answers may be harsh or crass. But the way in which I deliver my answer depends much upon the way you deliver your question. Being a member in an adult forum means you are accountable for yourself. You are responsible for the way you act and interact. I am not here to assume you are smart or dumb. You will, in the end, reveal which best describes you by your posts. Think before you speak. Search before you ask. Read before you write.
Many developers and members are getting tired of seeing other members come into a thread and post a question that has been answered more times than we can count. Most answered right in the OP. Many more answered in the first few pages of a thread, or 29 other threads about the same thing your question pertains to.
By acting like a "n00b", you bring undo attention to the fact that you haven't searched and thus making many feel like you have no intention of even trying. Why should we try and help you when you show no motivation to help yourself? This aura of self-entitlement turns many of us off and kills your chances of getting any real help.
There are ways to ask for help. This does NOT include coming into a thread and demanding answers, or posting the question over and over, or creating multiple threads with he same question. These things will only make your stay here more volatile.
Many of us have been here or on other forums for a lot of years. There are certain 'road rules', things that may not be in writing but are understood on the web. Just like there are certain unwritten rules in life but are merely understood by those with common sense.
This isn't meant to single anyone out [hence no names mentioned] or spark anyone's desire to flame. It's a 'rough guide' as you will to helping members navigate their way around this DEVELOPER forum.
Amen. Well said. Nothing is more frustrating than coming here with the intention of helping people out, only to have the most efficient answer be "read the op"...I'm a user, not a developer; my contribution is to help those who need it when I can, but at least try to help yourself.
Thanks. Just see too much of it in here and it's becoming a huge problem. Dev's are thinking about leaving etc...
It's gotta stop.
thanks，i learned……
My problem is that even I don't know where to post... all of my posts are development-related and from the mere existence of this topic I extrapolate that this sub-forum is for development-related Q&A, but the description really only lists "hacking-related" as a requirement... and hacking is a very broad term that may include anything from "How to get root permissions?" to "How do I create my own operating system based on Android?"
More precise descriptions for the sub-forums, along with a sticky that people could point to would go a long way, as would a larger number of moderators and a more intuitive way to request a topic to be moved.
Searching will only get you so far if all kinds of topics are intermixed.
Hans Schmucker said:
My problem is that even I don't know where to post... all of my posts are development-related and from the mere existence of this topic I extrapolate that this sub-forum is for development-related Q&A, but the description really only lists "hacking-related" as a requirement... and hacking is a very broad term that may include anything from "How to get root permissions?" to "How do I create my own operating system based on Android?"
More precise descriptions for the sub-forums, along with a sticky that people could point to would go a long way, as would a larger number of moderators and a more intuitive way to request a topic to be moved.
Searching will only get you so far if all kinds of topics are intermixed.
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Just search the forum and you will find threads that suite your needs.
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Not really... try to search for something a bit more complex... let's say, information on how to allow an Android application to call UID-protected system functions and you'll quickly end up with a whole lot of threads... about 97% of which are not development-related. That's why we need clear guidelines on where questions are supposed to be asked... and stickes... and moderators...
You should never post a question in a development forum. You should never post a question in a ROM thread..that is used for bug reports. Questions go in Q&A.
But Q&A is borderline useless right now because it's spammed with non development-related questions... I get the impression I'm not clear enough about the problem:
When I have a question, I'm supposed to look for other people asking the same question first. BUT since the Q&A forum contains both user-questions, as well as developer-questions, any search performed will inevitably turn up both kinds of questions; usually with the user-questions making up the majority (which will BTW also prevent other devs from finding my question). That's because users don't know that this is a development Q&A forum. I know that now, but the majority of questions are asked by people who just quickly drop in for a question or two... expecting everybody to immediately understand the rules when they're not written down doesn't seem like a realistic approach. And by written down, I mean at the very least, a sticky in each forum.
If you use the Q&A forum specific to your phone you get answers to your questions quickly.
Look at my example question again... what would that have to do with my phone: It's a question about software development and the Android software stack in general, not a particular device.
Oh, my fault!! Maybe you should start your own forum and hire 3,000 moderators then maybe you will get the support you need.
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This is XDA-Developers, not XDA-Phone-users, and the forum name says it best. As in any developer forum, RTFM should be rightfully expected from users. I am here to help people and that includes helping them HELP THEMSELVES. As it was once expected of us senior members to search for answers that were answered already, we in turn now expect the new generation of Android users to search.
In fact, Android was developed by Google [the world's largest SEARCH giant]. Search being the key word. Search is such a big deal that every Android phone has a search button on it or built in to it. So this should provide you with incentive to actively use the search feature built into this and every other forum on the web.
I am not here to hurt your precious feelings, nor am I here to avoid at all costs the possibility that you're overly sensitive and tiptoe on eggshells to interact with you. At times my answers may be harsh or crass. But the way in which I deliver my answer depends much upon the way you deliver your question. Being a member in an adult forum means you are accountable for yourself. You are responsible for the way you act and interact. I am not here to assume you are smart or dumb. You will, in the end, reveal which best describes you by your posts. Think before you speak. Search before you ask. Read before you write.
Many developers and members are getting tired of seeing other members come into a thread and post a question that has been answered more times than we can count. Most answered right in the OP. Many more answered in the first few pages of a thread, or 29 other threads about the same thing your question pertains to.
By acting like a "n00b", you bring undo attention to the fact that you haven't searched and thus making many feel like you have no intention of even trying. Why should we try and help you when you show no motivation to help yourself? This aura of self-entitlement turns many of us off and kills your chances of getting any real help.
There are ways to ask for help. This does NOT include coming into a thread and demanding answers, or posting the question over and over, or creating multiple threads with he same question. These things will only make your stay here more volatile.
Many of us have been here or on other forums for a lot of years. There are certain 'road rules', things that may not be in writing but are understood on the web. Just like there are certain unwritten rules in life but are merely understood by those with common sense.
This isn't meant to single anyone out [hence no names mentioned] or spark anyone's desire to flame. It's a 'rough guide' as you will to helping members navigate their way around this DEVELOPER forum.
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what does rtfm mean?
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Read the F'n manual.
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Oh, my fault!! Maybe you should start your own forum and hire 3,000 moderators then maybe you will get the support you need.
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I think we can stop the bickering about whether there is an issue right now... this thread was specifically created because there is one. And denying it isn't going to help.
Treating any suggestions to improve things as an attack doesn't produce solutions, just frustration. And I'm not talking about a thousand moderators, just maybe two or three per forum instead of one for every three.
Right now, I'd have to bend (bumping) or break (posting in the wrong forum) the rules to get any messages to the people that I want to reach... obviously a lot of people are doing just that, but to me that doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
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I think we can stop the bickering about whether there is an issue right now... this thread was specifically created because there is one. And denying it isn't going to help.
Treating any suggestions to improve things as an attack doesn't produce solutions, just frustration. And I'm not talking about a thousand moderators, just maybe two or three per forum instead of one for every three.
Right now, I'd have to bend (bumping) or break (posting in the wrong forum) the rules to get any messages to the people that I want to reach... obviously a lot of people are doing just that, but to me that doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
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If you have a point to make I'm not sure what it is. Every device has four separate forums. General, questions, development and themes. If you can't fit your question into one of those device specific forums then you are worse off than I imagine. Maybe I give people too much credit assuming they have common sense. This thread was designed to bring a problem to public. Now people are coming in here and doing exactly what I said in the OP.
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The point is that it's frustrating to use the forums right now because the topics aren't properly sorted. People are posting device-specific issues all over the "Android Dev & Hacking" forums, because well, they don't know any better and that's a problem that has to be solved.
I'm not sure how to say it any simpler than that: Do you agree that having all kinds of posts mixed up is a bad thing? Because that's what's happening now.
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The point is that it's frustrating to use the forums right now because the topics aren't properly sorted. People are posting device-specific issues all over the "Android Dev & Hacking" forums, because well, they don't know any better and that's a problem that has to be solved.
I'm not sure how to say it any simpler than that: Do you agree that having all kinds of posts mixed up is a bad thing? Because that's what's happening now.
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No kidding. That's what this whole topic is about. Did you miss the point of the OP?
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And that's why I suggested clearer rules (and more visible) and more than one moderator... I don't really get where the issue is here?
Really people. Is it honestly that hard? Each and every device has its own forum. And in that forum there are four sub-forums. Precisely: Q&A, General, Dev and Themes. If one can't intelligently figure out that Questions go in the Q&A section, Development bugs and reporting go in the Dev section, General garbage goes in the General section and so on and so forth, then you honestly don't belong here.
You are the ones clogging these very forums and threads with your useless nonsense. As I stated in the OP, you are responsible for yourself here. You are expected to have some sort of common sense and discretion when posting and if you don't then honestly....good riddance. This is a Developer driven forum. If you can't understand what that means then go back to third grade, because you FAILED.
There IS a problem. It's people not being able to use their brains and some common sense and you are a burden to many of us here.