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I'm new here,and I own a HTC Hero (GSM) which I really like it! I was waiting for the official 2.1 update from HTC but I soon found out that HTC keep postponing the release date and I really can't wait anymore.
I really want to root my phone and install a custom rom,I've keep searching for guides and "how to" toipics from XDA and google but I really don't understand a lot of what they were saying.
Alright here is my question
1. What is Vanilla,Espresso and this Kitchen thingy?
2. What does this full wipe means? does it really wipe all my data on my phone?
3. What is a busybox,VPN,APN, and AOSP?
4. What is this Launcher 2 and HelixLauncher thing?
5. Does the Custom Rom (Android 2.1 custom rom) have bluetooth file sharing features?
6. How do I install this "Apps 2 SD"?
7. Which is better way to root the phone? The unlokr.com (one click rooting) way or the XDA ones?
8. What is JIT? I've seen a lot of rom have this JIT enabled thingy...
9. Which is the best custom rom on XDA? (doesn't matter if it wasn't a Sense UI one,I just want a stable,fast,less buggy custom rom)
Sorry for asking a lot of qustions,but I really want to make sure what am I doing before rooting and installing custom rom on my HTC Hero.
many thanks in advance!
Ng LC said:
1. What is Vanilla,Espresso and this Kitchen thingy?
2. What does this full wipe means? does it really wipe all my data on my phone?
3. What is a busybox,VPN,APN, and AOSP?
4. What is this Launcher 2 and HelixLauncher thing?
5. Does the Custom Rom (Android 2.1 custom rom) have bluetooth file sharing features?
6. How do I install this "Apps 2 SD"?
7. Which is better way to root the phone? The unlokr.com (one click rooting) way or the XDA ones?
8. What is JIT? I've seen a lot of rom have this JIT enabled thingy...
9. Which is the best custom rom on XDA? (doesn't matter if it wasn't a Sense UI one,I just want a stable,fast,less buggy custom rom)
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1.Vanilla=Type of ROM where is no HTC stuff like Sense included.
Espresso= Version of Android
Kitchen= Select which apps u want to use on certain custom ROM´s.
2: This mean u shoud wipe data/factory reset, wipe Dalvik(APP)Cache, Wipe SD:ExT Partition (If its there)
3.Busybox= Root Features for your Hero, VPN= ?, APN=Mobile Network Connection Points?, AOSP= Android Open Source Project
4.Launcher2= HomeApp with 5 Homescreens, HelixLauncher= Another Home App
5.Yes they have but u should not use them.
6. Different on every ROM. APPS2SD means that u can install apps on your SDcard.
7.One Click Rooting should not work anymore so u should use the XDA´s one.
8.JIT is a combile method that translate directly to maschine code i think please use google.
9.Best is Kimera 1.6 or Modaco 3.2 - u should not use 2.1 ROMS they are quiete to buggy!
I sell my Hero next Week when my Desire is Arrived =) But have fun with the Hero ;-)
PS: Sry for my bad English.
1. Vanilla means stock android, without any visual or functional enhancements. Espresso is a User Interface, just like Sense. The kitchen is used for adding or removing ROM components(and other stuff too).
2. Full wipe means erasing all data and cache. Yes, you lose all your installed apps, contacts, texts and such. Basically it's a factory reset.
3. Busybox extends the android shell functionality. VPN = virtual private network, APN = access point name, AOSP = android open source project -- you could google for all
As you can see, all the information i've provided you can be found by searching google. So, to help you enhance your 'googling' skills, I will let you answer the remaining questions by yourself.
Moreover, this is the development section. Next time post these kinds of questions in the Q&A section.
RaduG said:
2. Full wipe means erasing all data and cache. Yes, you lose all your installed apps, contacts, texts and such. Basically it's a factory reset.
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You dont loose your contacts if they are saved to sim
shotgunfool said:
You dont loose your contacts if they are saved to sim
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Or Google, that's often the preferable choice.
RaduG said:
1. Vanilla means stock android, without any visual or functional enhancements. Espresso is a User Interface, just like Sense. The kitchen is used for adding or removing ROM components(and other stuff too).
2. Full wipe means erasing all data and cache. Yes, you lose all your installed apps, contacts, texts and such. Basically it's a factory reset.
3. Busybox extends the android shell functionality. VPN = virtual private network, APN = access point name, AOSP = android open source project -- you could google for all
As you can see, all the information i've provided you can be found by searching google. So, to help you enhance your 'googling' skills, I will let you answer the remaining questions by yourself.
Moreover, this is the development section. Next time post these kinds of questions in the Q&A section.
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Thx for the help and I'm sorry that I post it to the wrong section...
Should I wait?
Alright,sorry for double posting but I really want to ask this qustions,well actually I should ask this question myself but I want some opinion from u guys
Should I wait for the official release from HTC for the Android 2.1 with Sense for the HTC Hero?
just stay on original/stock rom . 2.73.xxx.xx
This is better. and wait for 2.1 update
it's my opinion.
Ng LC said:
Alright,sorry for double posting but I really want to ask this qustions,well actually I should ask this question myself but I want some opinion from u guys
Should I wait for the official release from HTC for the Android 2.1 with Sense for the HTC Hero?
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You're asking mostly people who haven't waited... do you really think you'll get an objective answer?
How pissed off are you with 1.5? Have you seen/used 2.1? Did you like it? etc etc etc
fallos said:
just stay on original/stock rom . 2.73.xxx.xx
This is better. and wait for 2.1 update
it's my opinion.
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Then if you install 2.1 stock, it'll lock the phone down removing the possibility of ever rooting it, no?
Personally I'd root it and go with modaco latest if you want it roughly as stock but with some bugfixes then you've got the option of using custom roms in the future or whatever you want. you only need to root it once then you can do whatever you like.
xtcislove said:
1.Vanilla=Type of ROM where is no HTC stuff like Sense included.
Espresso= Version of Android
Kitchen= Select which apps u want to use on certain custom ROM´s.
2: This mean u shoud wipe data/factory reset, wipe Dalvik(APP)Cache, Wipe SD:ExT Partition (If its there)
3.Busybox= Root Features for your Hero, VPN= ?, APN=Mobile Network Connection Points?, AOSP= Android Open Source Project
4.Launcher2= HomeApp with 5 Homescreens, HelixLauncher= Another Home App
5.Yes they have but u should not use them.
6. Different on every ROM. APPS2SD means that u can install apps on your SDcard.
7.One Click Rooting should not work anymore so u should use the XDA´s one.
8.JIT is a combile method that translate directly to maschine code i think please use google.
9.Best is Kimera 1.6 or Modaco 3.2 - u should not use 2.1 ROMS they are quiete to buggy!
I sell my Hero next Week when my Desire is Arrived =) But have fun with the Hero ;-)
PS: Sry for my bad English.
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why shouldn't I use the Bluetooth file sharing features on the custom rom?
Alright,now I have another question,is jit enabled rom better than the non-jit custom rom?
Ng LC said:
why shouldn't I use the Bluetooth file sharing features on the custom rom?
Alright,now I have another question,is jit enabled rom better than the non-jit custom rom?
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JIT enabled ROMs will be almost definitely faster than non-JIT roms.
Ng LC said:
Alright,sorry for double posting but I really want to ask this qustions,well actually I should ask this question myself but I want some opinion from u guys
Should I wait for the official release from HTC for the Android 2.1 with Sense for the HTC Hero?
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Use the official 1.5 rom for a week to two weeks, then root and install a few different custom roms for a week to two weeks and then see what you prefer, you can either stay rooted on a custom rom or you can revert back to the original 1.5 official
there is a reason why Google was invented. e.g. you would be able to find stuff on ROMs like http://android.modaco.com/content/h.../304106/revote-for-best-2-1-rom-w-benchmarks/
shenshang said:
there is a reason why Google was invented. e.g. you would be able to find stuff on ROMs like
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I know google was invented to search for things,but I just can't really find the answer that I was looking for...
Edit: Alrite,there is another question,can I still use Chinese Keyboard when flashing the custom rom?
Ng LC said:
I know google was invented to search for things,but I just can't really find the answer that I was looking for...
Edit: Alrite,there is another question,can I still use Chinese Keyboard when flashing the custom rom?
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Is that an app or built in?
if built in, maybe - check with the rom creator first
if app - yes...
then,
does Kimera custom rom (android 1.5) have chinese input support?
and how about the Modaco custom rom (also android 1.5),does it also have chinese input support too?
and if u say that there is an app to enable chinese input,what is the name of the app?
Ng LC said:
then,
does Kimera custom rom (android 1.5) have chinese input support?
and how about the Modaco custom rom (also android 1.5),does it also have chinese input support too?
and if u say that there is an app to enable chinese input,what is the name of the app?
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alrite,I think the first question about custom rom chinese input support was a bit noob,I should have just ask
is there an app to enable chinese input,what is the name of the app?
Ng LC said:
alrite,I think the first question about custom rom chinese input support was a bit noob,I should have just ask
is there an app to enable chinese input,what is the name of the app?
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OIC - i've no idea. Sometimes the custom rom's have support for other languages and keyboards, some have better support than others. Check the market before or check with your preferred rom developer before flashing!
here's the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/sony-ericsson-no-os-updates-for-xperia-x10-beyond-android-2-1/
what a shame... here's to hoping the bootloader gets cracked and we can have some custom 2.2 roms!
WTF this sux
Wat the heck is this......we just started X10 mini and the updates are finished from SE.........This isn't good......SE is the worst lazy company i ever seen................I am so disappointed!!!
Even if the mini received a 2.2 update it wouldn't contain all the goodies such as Flash 10 and JIT enhancements.
Contrarian said:
Even if the mini received a 2.2 update it wouldn't contain all the goodies such as Flash 10 and JIT enhancements.
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There are claims of a 2x-5x Performance boost over some apps compared to 2.1 Dalvik JIT:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
There is also a Flash 10 Download for 2.2 as well: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/1...er-beta-2-for-android-2-2-froyo-os-goes-live/
So most things can be replicated between versions (Obvious exceptions including the Kernel). Still, it's a shame that SE don't seem to want to maintain updates on this device
But flash is for devices that uses ARMv7 and higer we got ARMv6 right??
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owain94 said:
But flash is for devices that uses ARMv7 and higer we got ARMv6 right??
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My understanding is that Flash is dependant on the funtionality that the OS offers, Not the hardware (Obviously you need to have enough CPU power).
Check out this link: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-flash-10-1-on-android-2-1-eclair-devices/
deano309 said:
My understanding is that Flash is dependant on the funtionality that the OS offers, Not the hardware (Obviously you need to have enough CPU power).
Check out this link: http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-flash-10-1-on-android-2-1-eclair-devices/
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you are right the flash will run on availability(required) of system OS not the hardware.........didn't know how i done that ,but i was able to install flash 10
when i recently own this phone(July 2010)...........So its seems that hardware is not a concern with this app.
http://androidos.in/2011/01/sony-playstation-phone-‘xperia-play’-preview/
abhi98228 said:
WTF this sux
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SONY = Shame ON You
SONY = Shit ON You
cowboyfromhell said:
SONY = Shame ON You
SONY = Shit ON You
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Yea thats rite mate..gd device bt lazy arse company..se-****-us all..
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problem is that they released the phone but eventually stopped making an upgrade in the OS ..
they should put either a notice or a fine print that they'd stop releasing a new OS once they have new lines of phone.
pratyush_gamer said:
you are right the flash will run on availability(required) of system OS not the hardware.........didn't know how i done that ,but i was able to install flash 10
when i recently own this phone(July 2010)...........So its seems that hardware is not a concern with this app.
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Installing flash on the mini is simple - just change the following (in build.prop file)
"ro.build.version.sdk=7" to "ro.build.version.sdk=8"
"ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi" to "ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a"
"ro.product.cpu.abi2=unknown" to "ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi"
reboot
install flash from the market or elsewhere
The problem is 2.1 won't recognize it, probably due to "permissions" and the absence of "plugins". I'm not 100% sure but the Flash Player code may include some iterances of "Arm7" substrates in order to run.
Contrarian said:
Installing flash on the mini is simple - just change the following
"ro.build.version.sdk=7" to "ro.build.version.sdk=8"
"ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi" to "ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a"
"ro.product.cpu.abi2=unknown" to "ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi"
reboot
install flash from the market or elsewhere
The problem is 2.1 won't recognize it, probably due to "permissions" and the absence of "plugins". I'm not 100% sure but the Flash Player code may include some iterances of "Arm7" substrates in order to run.
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Basically i installed flash .....becoz i overwrite the market.apk......(Market 2.1 to Market 1.6) as a result the flash player got installed.......And the market will update itself again when you connect to internet again.
You have a full working flash player on your device?
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In this place we have the new firmware for Xperia, but I cant use it.
developer.sonyericsson.com/wportal/devworld/downloads/download/x10x10minix10miniprox8eclair21a0435tar?cc=gb&lc=en
What we need to do to use it?
I hope have helped.
Open Source!!??
When it will be released?
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Looks like the update for dual-touch. :/
will we be able to use this firmware with the help of someone here?
multi touch is already update = =' must b sumthin else
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In this place we have the new firmware for Xperia, but I cant use it.
developer.sonyericsson.com/wportal/devworld/downloads/download/x10x10minix10miniprox8eclair21a0435tar?cc=gb&lc=en
What we need to do to use it?
I hope have helped.
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It's is a developers source code and if I am not wrong these are for developers to look into and tinker around with.
Firmware for end-user is available via OTA/SEUS/PC Companion as per company's plan generally a few days/weeks after being mentioned on PRTDC.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
This is not usable as a ROM. It's only the Source data that SE has to release as per the Open GPL Licenses....
The only workaround with this file should be to compile some Kernel Modules like tun.ko etc...
As Kloud_ said the firmware releases are sent via SEUS/PC Companion....
Jim
Someone who knows what they are looking for can tell what is included in the update from the source code posted above, though
I'm not smart enough for that
multi touch was updated officially on the 20th right?
can anyone confirm that mediascape supports multi touch?
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SiRIus[X] said:
multi touch was updated officially on the 20th right?
can anyone confirm that mediascape supports multi touch?
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I confirm that Mediascape does not support the released dual-touch update.
hush66 said:
I confirm that Mediascape does not support the released dual-touch update.
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Works on my phone(at least in the picture viewer portion of mediascape). MT works in all apps that support it at all.
I'm currently running:
Firmware: 2.1-update-1
Baseband: 2.0.46
Kernel: 2.6.29
Build: 2.0.A.0.504 (MT update and fix(mt for all apps) with JIT enabled)
i wonder when SE will show 2.2 after all
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i wonder when SE will show 2.2 after all
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they OFFICIALLY said: NEVER
fred444 said:
they OFFICIALLY said: NEVER
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Well, do you remember what they said about multi/dual-touch?
"NEVER" or something, my memory's kinda fuzzy... Though this time I'm rather sure that they really meant never as, well, never.
ooidort said:
Well, do you remember what they said about multi/dual-touch?
"NEVER" or something, my memory's kinda fuzzy... Though this time I'm rather sure that they really meant never as, well, never.
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Believe me, it will never appear.
They are going to release the Xperia ARC in q1 with gingerbread 2.3 and then nobody cares about the X10.
The X10-Roadmap ends with a UXP upgrade in January.
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Believe me, it will never appear.
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...I did agree with you, if that was unclear. Just saying that they also said "never" for the multi/dual-touch implementation, though doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Guys I updated my phone thru SE today.This is actually a rom.the base band and the build number are different and also could root the phone with flash tools.
Screen shots.Also added the 2.2.11 market and some other stuff like Neo reader and post card which are not really usable.But i Confirm you can root the device,
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...I did agree with you, if that was unclear. Just saying that they also said "never" for the multi/dual-touch implementation, though doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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They did once say they may be able to get multi-touch working on the X10 tho, they have never said they may release 2.2.
It isn't going to happen, never ever will, end of story.
If they did I would prefer FreeX10 anyway, as SE 2.2 would have too much ****e on it
2.1.A.0.435 = poor perfromance
SE update service announced this a while back but ignored it until I got a dead ROM, which happened today while playing with Gingerbread 2.3.1 - TripNRaVeR v1.1 - since gone to 1.2 and with the sound / keyboard / wifi / sdcard fixes in place and working, highly recommend checking it..
EDIT: After flashing back to this standard ROM to look into MultiTouch further, found Multitouch is implemented in stock 2.1.A.0.435 ROM. Working with browser, docs, Angry Birds, Maps and more, not Navigation by default, investigating.
So there you have it - Multitouch is enabled on the 435 ROM. All other ROM versions can add it with the Dual Touch kernel mod and setting the xml file options / Build.prop etc.. takes 10 minutes and is worth it!
The new Mediascape has a Plus / Minus flexible icon that appears when you hold your finger on the picture, allowing you to zoom in and out, but not pinch ouch!
2.1.A.0.435 is the slowest ROM I've used. Linkpack score of 6.xx - totally lame app performance, constantly killing processes and I gave up using it within 2 hours, not even bothering to make an update.zip to return to xRecovery loading my preferred 2.0.2.A.0.24 with XGbread theme.
EDIT 2: Don't recommend downgrading from 2.3.1 to 2.1.A.0.435 ROM by Flashing with Update Service and then using xRecovery to attempt loading 2.1.A.0.24 - as this bricked my device and was forced to use the Update Service to go back to 2.1.A.0.435, which is where I am stuck right now - lol - this is because of the baseband version being so different you will always receive - No service - WiFi will crash repeatedly and basically you can't use it as a phone anymore.
Root via SuperOneClick - works! - Install BusyBox - works! - load xRecovery works!
we all know that adobe has stopped development on Flash for mobile devices.. however, some have been able to save the last flash apk file..
I was wondering, why do developers not add this to their Roms so we dont have to look for said apk and install manually? does it somehow break the rom or perhaps make the rom "slower"?
The reson most people don't include is that adobe stopped development there is a reason, why add something buggy to a rom which is trying to have kleast bugs possible? Everything is turning to html5 coding, but if you really want just download it from trhe android general section, or download pimp my rom and extract it from there and just add it personally to any rom, or install it and when you backup apps before flashing you'll always have it. plus Opera has it embedded and opens anything without probs....
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The reson most people don't include is that adobe stopped development there is a reason, why add something buggy to a rom which is trying to have kleast bugs possible? Everything is turning to html5 coding, but if you really want just download it from trhe android general section, or download pimp my rom and extract it from there and just add it personally to any rom, or install it and when you backup apps before flashing you'll always have it. plus Opera has it embedded and opens anything without probs....
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sounds reasonable..
hmmm.. opera you say? i have been using quick ics... havent really used opera since my symbian days... tried dolphin, ics plus, maxthon, and quick...
Thanks for your reply.
Some problems
But it's kind of strange when there are still sites and elements which aren't included in HTML5, maybe it was too fast, and ASOP browser has sometimes problems as well..
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Rudjgaard said:
The reson most people don't include is that adobe stopped development there is a reason, why add something buggy to a rom which is trying to have kleast bugs possible? Everything is turning to html5 coding, but if you really want just download it from trhe android general section, or download pimp my rom and extract it from there and just add it personally to any rom, or install it and when you backup apps before flashing you'll always have it. plus Opera has it embedded and opens anything without probs....
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But it's kind of strange when there are still sites and elements which aren't included in HTML5, maybe it was too fast, and ASOP browser has sometimes problems as well..
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this is not 100% right. theres still some (bit) development in flash apk even for GB time to time but the main reason why adobe say our devices are not supported are: like u said right (previous) versions was laggy or dont work, and 2nd thing was many ppl complained to adobe that sth in some browser in some custom rom didnt works, and adobe said that they werent very well interested iin shipping flash to all devices (to much dev. and $ maybe ) thats why some devices have a flash-certification, they are still able to download flash via playstore.--
so short said yes they said its not avaiable, so nobody complains, and who cares (want it) can easily download it still.. also ur right some browser have built in flash :good: , but everybody who need flash can download it from adobe - but they say on its site its not supported to avoid complainments/etc.
for me - i need flash - and it works very well. also thers nearly every mounth a new version, so it seems ther is some developing :good:
link to apk (for jb use 4.0/ics version; w/ normal install): http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
ahh i forgot to say and further reason is that (many) flash objects like embedded youtobe flash code on site are real perfomance-eaters,another reason why there are not maked/meant for our (low memory and cpu) devices, so ur true if u say it sometimes lag... (i browse allways in desktop mode )
Ye Its Buggy
Can I just download Opera and use flash without downloading anything else?
Sorry for the stupid question - it's been a while that I used my X10 Mini Android phone...
I am trying to revive my phone for my son and just installed newest stock ROM from Sony. Everything works as Sony - expected, however I do not find e.g. the App Kytephone in the store to install. I heard that this app pretty much close down the phone and makes any android phone a great kids phone.
Any help how I can install that app? Any stting or update to marketpalce needed Would updating to any custom ROM might make that App available to install ? Which one is most stable (as my son shouldn't use too many features anyway...)
THANK YOU!
It needs Android 2.2 or higher, and sony's latest update is 2.1, that's why you can't find it in the store, so upgrading to a custom froyo or gingerbread rom should do the trick
SmG67 said:
It needs Android 2.2 or higher, and sony's latest update is 2.1, that's why you can't find it in the store, so upgrading to a custom froyo or gingerbread rom should do the trick
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Awsome - thanks, will try. I know this is a non-checker question and it all depends on individual opinions... However, could you name any ROM that has its strength in stability and battery life?
I would go with MiniCM7, the last version to run on stock kernel was 2.0.7, which is quite stable.
Or you could try this, which should run on 2.1 too
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I would go with MiniCM7, the last version to run on stock kernel was 2.0.7, which is quite stable.
Or you could try this, which should run on 2.1 too
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Flashed CM7 - works great
Kytephone has some uber features, although Kiddo place looks promising. Thanks again for coaching, kid will love his 1st phone
how run "unsuppoerted" apps ? I cant find them oon market ? ...
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how run "unsuppoerted" apps ? I cant find them oon market ? ...
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The market will only show apps that are suitable for our phones. You get more choice if you run the latest custom rom (which is Jellybean), but the market will also take into account things like the screen resolution, and the architecture of the chip used.
Apps developed specifically for Armv7 or higher won't run on our phones, which have Armv6 architecture, and if an app requires a resolution higher than 240x320, then the market won't show those options either.
If you want to try an app that is unsopported, find a .apk for that app (use a general search for that app), copy it to your sd-card and install it from there. If the app checks it's own requirements (rather than let google-play decide if it's appropriate) it still won't install though. Sometimes you'll get lucky, but that is really rare.
Usually the only way to get an 'unsupported' app to run is to get a different device that fulfill it's requirements.