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When will the actual multitouch be available, the dualtouch is pretty annoying. If anyone knows any insight about it we wud all love to know
Thanks!!!
never..... the dual touch is all we're getting
as for as i know dual touch is pretty much enough but i would love it if we had perfect calibration!
cause the axes go the opposite when using dual touch in the ends of the screen
if this is fixed then its great
i think Xperia arc's drivers could be put into our x10 if the bootloader gets cracked that is
Ooo... Bootloader getting cracked is hard but not impossible. If it happens that wud be the best thing possible
andrej456 found a method to replace drivers via kernel modules for X8, originally made to get dualtouch on T-Mobile G1... However, right now it seems that it's working only on X8, because on X10 Mini Pro driver remains loaded in memory.
You can give it a shot on X10 to try to get more than two fingers
It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976948
Basically, place replace piece of code in MT driver and compile it as module with make modules. We still haven't got DT/MT on X8 but andrej is making progress, he's looking at different drivers and tries to make working one for us
due to hardware limitations, we won't have true multitouch.
dualtouch is the best that the hardware allows us to do.
well, the x8 wont work on x10, and i dont want to risk anything on my phone, i have done enough crap on my phone already. i dont want to make it any harder. but i know that it is not impossible, there must be a way, the hardrives that hes looking for, can be taken from the xperia arc. cant it?
Xperia's hardware doesn't support multitouch
sonybose said:
Xperia's hardware doesn't support multitouch
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I thought we could create a thread dedicated to the upcoming new android version regarding the Xperia mini/mini pro and Ray.
Maybe here we could gather information about release dates, user interface thoughts and ideas, features etc.
Sounds like a good idea?
Peace
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I somehow think that Sony might pull a "We believe our stock 2.3 rom is the best ever. We see no reason to update" like they did with their older phones, and save it for their 2012 range.
Yeah possible, but then again they have stated that all the 2011 models will get ICS, and hopefully they have learned from the disaster with the X10.
But after spending some time searching the forums I'm starting to think that your scenario is pretty possible, sadly...
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Yes, I think the same My second phone is x10 mini pro and SE end support his on Android 2.1. Reason? Thats the best for this hardware. Now I have alternative rom an android 2.3.7 and it work faster like stock rom 2.1 Thanks for devalopers from xda.
hopefully
if they dont release it for 2011 xperias , hopefully the epic cool devs here will, as a custom rom
i'm an x8 user and they had me stuck on 2.1 and if they ever do this again to me ( i plan to get the xperia mini pro ), idk then next time i'm buying a phone i will consider that SE is invisible and have no existence in planet earth anymore lol , regardless of what so ever "super cool" looking handsets they might have available at the time......
if you like Android 4.0 theme, you can use
ICS Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.SyndicateApps.ICSv2
it's free app
I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I'm quite confident that it will come, eventually. Don't hold your breath on when exactly that will be, though I'm sure CM will beat them to it.
SE firmwares are somewhat backward compared to firmwares provided by samsung or htc in their devices. (eg. No smart dialing in my mini pro). And the timescape UI lacks many features (I don't need five home screens, but can't change it). I hope they will improve such minor details in forthcoming updates.
Hi! I was just wondering, is there any possible way of flashing/installing the camera application from the Xperia Arc S to the Atrix? I really like that camera, chock-full of features and what-have-yous. I've adored that camera ever since I used it on my bro's Arc S. To all the experts, is there any way at all that I can make this happen on my Atrix? Thanks in advance!
That's not possible because Arc camera hardware differs a lot from Atrix's.
I imagine With a lot of hard work and skilled hacking it may be possible, seeing as other phone's camera applications have been ported to the atrix, but as of right now i don't belive so.
well...... maybe impossible...
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Hi guys, seeing there are many good roms for ray thanks to the great developers present here in XDA. My friend is using galaxy y and i switch here and there sometimes, so i noticed this every rom developed for galaxy y has some difference in them even though they are generated from touch wiz, for example transparent interface and other stuff. Why all the roms for ray come with the sony or nova or apex launchers only and not any customized launchers and in xperia x8 section i saw htc port for xperia. So guys if you are planning to develope roms further for ray pls try to implement any one of these like sense,touchwiz ports etc...
thanks guys for reading this and i hope someone develops a rom with combined functionality cheers mates
Well, I had a Xperia X8 in the past (I killed it by trying to unlock the bootloader lol), and the "HTC port" is not more than Android Gingerbread 2.3.7 with a skinned launcher and official HTC wallpapers. Somebody said that it was not possible to port real Sense because X8 hardware limitations.
However, ROMS like CM7 were very well ported, before destroying my X8 I could use a CM7 based ROM (I think it was GingerDX) with everything working (even in locked bootloader), like AOSP lockscreen, moving apps to SD and fake multitouch (both things not possible with SONY official stock ROM for X8), etc.
Now, the reason of releasing ROMs with Xperia official Launcher is because most developers and users in this section are SONY fans I guess (that's why we got a SONY device). A friend of mine owns a Samsung Galaxy and touchwiz is not a big deal, it has some kind of nice stuff but at the end it's not 100% customizable. I mean, I didn't see anything awesome on it. In fact, my friend saw my Ray with JellySandwich and liked more than his own phone and now he wants to skin touchwiz to make it look like NXT lol.
I've read some comments about Sense, some people claim it's heavy and that's why they want to get rid of it and install AOSP over their HTC phones, but I exactly don't know if this is true 'cause I've never used one, but I can tell you that things from Sense like lockscreen and music player look good, I'd like to have them on my Ray.
In any case, I think Xperia developers should also have a Samsung or HTC device to start playing with it and try to port that stuff to Xperia, but honestly I don't see any big interest on it. I mean, currently ROMs are wonderful enough, JellySandwich, IceCream Pureness, Hybrid, etc...
Well for me I don't include those stuff cuz I choosed sony and I bought sony. That generally means I like sony.
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Hi guys, seems sony is not going to support us and not going to update our phones to the latest Jelly bean android os. Looking around the thread i see the only problem with sony not updating to jb is with the drivers for jelly bean for our phones, i also found out that making the drivers is not a impossible task but a very hard one ( seems X8 has no problem running JB as devstaff said ). I on behalf of all the owners of 2011 xperia devices kindly request all the great developers here in this forum to join togeather to develope drivers for these devices, pls guys help us keep our great phone RAY up-to date.
As far as I know it's NOT an impossible task (because nothing is impossible), but our developers have to deal with reverse engineering and believe me concerning drivers it's a very complicated thing. Too much effort and time put with minimal or no gain at all.
I remember WM 6.5 ROMS for HTC Touch HD whose support was so quickly dropped by HTC and we, simple folk, didn't get the desired 6.5 update. So there were cooks and lot's of 6.5 Blackstone ROMS but, as genius as they were, developers didn't manage to get them work full throttle because, guess what, of them blasted drivers!
So the answer to your question is probably "no"..
am i missing the point of this thread?
there is CyanogenMod 10 jb which supports well most 2011 handsets - CyanogenMod the best you can have on the xperia ray.
i too have an xperia ray and was very unhappy with the original Sony bloat - the phone constantly crashed, rebooted, froze up - you name it, it made no fun at all. after throwing it around out of anger, i put myself together and installed CyanogenMod 9 at first, all previous errors were gone spontaneously. now a month or two ago i started to move to CyanogenMod 10 and guess what, it works great - running android 4.1.2. i'm anxious to install the latest fxp146 which will be online soon.
you can find the stuff here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
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As far as I know it's NOT an impossible task (because nothing is impossible), but our developers have to deal with reverse engineering and believe me concerning drivers it's a very complicated thing. Too much effort and time put with minimal or no gain at all.
I remember WM 6.5 ROMS for HTC Touch HD whose support was so quickly dropped by HTC and we, simple folk, didn't get the desired 6.5 update. So there were cooks and lot's of 6.5 Blackstone ROMS but, as genius as they were, developers didn't manage to get them work full throttle because, guess what, of them blasted drivers!
So the answer to your question is probably "no"..
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Xperia X8 support stopped with 2.1, but they have jelly bean, so it's not impossible as you say. If the developers wish they could do it for ray too.
thyssen2k said:
am i missing the point of this thread?
there is CyanogenMod 10 jb which supports well most 2011 handsets - CyanogenMod the best you can have on the xperia ray.
i too have an xperia ray and was very unhappy with the original Sony bloat - the phone constantly crashed, rebooted, froze up - you name it, it made no fun at all. after throwing it around out of anger, i put myself together and installed CyanogenMod 9 at first, all previous errors were gone spontaneously. now a month or two ago i started to move to CyanogenMod 10 and guess what, it works great - running android 4.1.2. i'm anxious to install the latest fxp146 which will be online soon.
you can find the stuff here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1409053
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Ya man CM is awesome, but it dosen't contain the awesome picture quality of the sony ics camera, there was a picture preview glitch in CM. I'm saying that it would be great if developers could make the drivers for ray and make a debrand engine of sony jb version it will be fuc**in awesome thats all mate.
Well. Only sony has to do this. No developer is able to build drivers. We can port ones as FXP do. And see what is haappening. You dont ahve a full working and cool JB. SO you will never will. There is no engineer that knows sonys hardware and would like to be part of xda and share. No possible way
MrTapa said:
Well. Only sony has to do this. No developer is able to build drivers. We can port ones as FXP do. And see what is haappening. You dont ahve a full working and cool JB. SO you will never will. There is no engineer that knows sonys hardware and would like to be part of xda and share. No possible way
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Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
cooldude9119 said:
Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
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It seems you do not fully understand how drivers are developed. And with x8 devs were just lucky to get hands on something similar which they adapted for this xperia model. Hell, you can have legendary HTC HD2 running Android and WP7 smoothly but you won't find not a single driver created from the ground up by our XDA tech gurus! So I repeat, what you suggest is very complex and most likely impossible.
cooldude9119 said:
Then can you tell me how xperia x8 having only 600mhz processor runs jelly bean so smoothly, with its software support stopped by sony in android 2.1 foryo. There is a way, the devolpoers could do it, i personally think if the FXP,AOKP,PA join hands they could do it
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Well for us jelly bean is smooth too but when it's not fully useful and it freezes a lot. For x8 its the same
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We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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devstaff said:
We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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If you're really willing to put some effort into it, go for it! Ask Naa and see what he says. I bet he'll also have useful information when it comes to porting :good:
MrTapa said:
Well for us jelly bean is smooth too but when it's not fully useful and it freezes a lot. For x8 its the same
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Jelly in my devices is superb, better game performance, better battery live, ect, all whit stock GHZ speed, no need to overclock on JB. :fingers-crossed:
devstaff said:
We need good devs, like Nobodyatall to help us port drivers and more.
Maybe we should start a donation to Naa to help us? Cuz nAa is a superior dev, he made 2.2, 2.3, 4.0, 4.1 for the X8, and the X8 only runs eclair on stock.
Is my idea good? Should we ask nAa for help?
Another idea is to port DesireHD roms because the HW is almost the same, or maybe Xperia J?
Nothing is impossible, we just need good developers thats good at working with drivers.
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ya thats a nice idea dude, surely we can ask him, +! from me :good:
oshmoun said:
If you're really willing to put some effort into it, go for it! Ask Naa and see what he says. I bet he'll also have useful information when it comes to porting :good:
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finally we are getting someplace, soon a proper jb for our ray
Ok, I contact nAa later today
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good man, any other developers who could help us willing to join this project ??