I'm trying to decide on a tablet for myself.
Thought about the nook but the 7" screen dissuaded me.
Specs:
G http://www.viewsonic.com/gtablet/spec.htm
10s http://ap.viewsonic.com/za/products/viewpad/viewpad10s/specs.php
Now I'm down to the G Tablet ($360) and the ViewPad 10s ($399)
10s to GTablet Comparison: (legend: + Pro, - Con, ? unknown)
+ seems to have a better screen (larger viewing angles)
+ HDMI port
- 512MB internal flash (not too bad if apps2sdext is possible)
- Lesser capacity battery (3300 vs 3650 mAh)
? developer support ? will there be a xda forum and support (ROMs)
Other questions:
The 10s has an accelerometer (g-sensor)
Does the G Tablet have an Accelometer? Magnetometer (compass)?
Please help me decide. thanks.
Yes accelerometer, no magnetometer.
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
Thanks for your answers.
Kayak83 said:
Doesn't the 10s have 3G connectivity as well as GPS? GPS would be nice to have, but not a necessity. And the 3G connection is a bit of overkill unless you're traveling all the time. Pretty hard to find a place nowadays without wifi.
From what I've heard, the screen in the 10s is the same as the gtablet. Or at least shares the same viewing angle concerns.
Also, I'm not sure where you're posting from, but the 10s is a Eurpoean model. but I'm sure you can get it on ebay for the US.
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I dont need 3G coz my Nexus can tether for free , same reason I dont need another GPS too.
JR.com is taking pre-orders
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
I'm pretty confused....
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
ivan.volosyuk said:
The major difference between the G Tablet and Viewpad is CPU. For G Tablet we have Tegra2 which will be a reference design for Android 3. Viewpad should be using Intel Atom CPU to be able to run Windows7. I think it will have much worse support from xda. So if you want Windows and terrible battery live - choose Viewpad. If you want Android 3 Honeycomb - G Tablet.
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Wrong...
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..Some places are actually calling it a gtab2 and/or the euro gtab only because it has a few additional features but supposedly a similar screen... maybe these links will help. Good luck, hope this all helps.
http://www.greatereader.org/?p=11791
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_VIEWPAD10S/
So, in essence the 10S is the same as the gTab with a few extra features at roughly the same price...
flashred said:
So from the hours of research that I have done, from what I understand (and correct me if i'm wrong) there are 3 tablets coming out from Viewsonic. . . The Viewpad 10, Viewpad 10s (European and Asian markets), and a Viewpad 10 Pro.
From what I have read, the 10 Pro will also be dual boot, Windows 7 and Android 2.2. The one thing that confuses me besides all of the mixed information out there, is that....
1) Android 2.2 will be native (dual boot).
2) Android 2.2 will "work within a VM" which is launched within Windows 7.
Has anyone else closely researched Viewsonic's new tablet lineup?
Thanks.
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I wouldn't go with the x86 tablet. Just about all current Android devices are ARM CPU based and ANY apps that make use of the native development environment just won't work on non-ARM CPUs. (Actually I'm guessing that most devs will restrict to ARMv7 anyways -> cortex-a8 & -a9 based systems only but these are the only ones worth buying anyways...)
I wonder why they kneecapped internal storage for the 10s? I read this a while back and IIRC it said 4GB at that time... About the only thing that I'd like from it is higher cap batt... be even better if it was 5k but...
flipovich said:
The 10S version of the viewpad has a tegra cpu just like the gtablet..
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No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
dagbro said:
No, Windows 7 wouldn't run on ARM.
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That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
flipovich said:
I think ya'll are confusing your models so here's a breakdown to clear things up a little.
Viewpad 10 = Intel CPU with Windows and Android OS (dual-boot)
Viewpad 10 Pro = Intel CPU running Windows primarily with the capability of launching Android from a VM within Windows
Viewpad 10S = Tegra CPU running only Android OS
The OP is asking about the 10S not the other models that ya'll keep confusing into the mix. The 10S, like I said before, is basically a gTab with a few extra features but smaller internal storage for roughly the same price. I hope this clears things up a bit.
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Looking at the picture of the 10s leads me to believe the screen is no better than the gtablet. It has the same frame around it. And from the internal pictures/write-ups I've seen on the gtablet there has always been plenty of room left for them to simply "upgrade" it a little with 3G and GPS.
I did a lil research too. I saw videos of it at CES and the viewing angles looks the same as g tablet video I saw. My g tablet coming in soon but I dont know if I should refuse the shipment and wait for viewpad 10s.
So far 10s has
hdmi
2x usb port
glossy back.
buttons disappear on the front with return button near power on the side
2 models: 3g+GPS or Wifi only
g-tablet over 10s is
bigger battery
buttons
cheaper
The screen looks the same. The people did the viewpad 10s video didnt even mention anything about g-tablet or about the viewing angle. Anyone have info on this?
Glossy back is a down if you're like me and OCD about prints on your electronics.
G Tablet
I went and looked at one, and the screen is definitely a concern to me. Are there any versions of these that don't have the screen like that? Dark when you look at it from an angle top pointed away? I see its sort of backwards, and looks brighter when the top is pointed towards you. Very odd.
Guys, with the $50 off coupon today I had no choice but to get the Nook Color.
Can always gift it to family later
Thanks for your input, the discussion can continue!.
flashred said:
That is correct, and also the reason why I would like to go with one of these Viewpads that can boot (or VM) Windows 7 and Android 2.2
I haven't posted much (so i'm restricted) on here otherwise I would add a few links to the demonstrations I have seen on the 'tube. If you do a search for Viewpad 10 pro, you will see Android being launched in a VM of sorts. It's very interesting to me.
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Does viewpad 10s run vegacomb 3.2 build 9n good? Cheers.
Tomas.
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I am thinking about getting the viepad 10 with the intel Atom processor and was wondering if any existing viewpad 10 owners/users have tried dual booting this instead of android. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR it is designed for netbooks, so in theory it should work just fine given there are drivers for the hardware. if this would work even with a little tweaking to get all the hardware working, it would be an exceptional tablet IMO, and an excellent substitute for honeycomb. (until it gets ported or released for the tablet)
I would post this in the viewpad 10 section but... there isn't one (yet)
Sorry to bump this topic but I have an answer to your problem. You can get the last version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix working by using this guide:
http://www.ollie-reardon.co.uk/ubuntu-10-10-viewpad-10/
To find what other Linux Distributions work on the Viewpad 10 here is a small list (But it's growing fast!!):
http://www.ollie-reardon.co.uk/which-linux-distributions-works-on-the-viewpad-10/
Hope that helps!
jitajt said:
I am thinking about getting the viepad 10 with the intel Atom processor and was wondering if any existing viewpad 10 owners/users have tried dual booting this instead of android. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR it is designed for netbooks, so in theory it should work just fine given there are drivers for the hardware. if this would work even with a little tweaking to get all the hardware working, it would be an exceptional tablet IMO, and an excellent substitute for honeycomb. (until it gets ported or released for the tablet)
I would post this in the viewpad 10 section but... there isn't one (yet)
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You might also consider checking out this post in the development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909944
Not sure about compatibility with Viewpad 10, but it might provide another option for a starting point.
The Viewpad 10 has got an Intel Atom inside so really it's just a matter of USB booting a Linux Distribution like Ubuntu 11.04.
Hi All,
I am too Confused,
I am not sure which is better : Samsung 10.1 or viewpad with two OS : android and win 7.
I am not sure how the touch works with viewsonic?
Can any one please let me know which is better overall?
The issue is, I am afraid of viewsonic in the touching screen speed, The processor speed, the screen resolution,the overall performance,the available apps,games.
The main thing that is making me thinking of viewsonic is the WIN 7 thing,Which will help me open my work application on it like the notebook,but I am afraid of the above concerns.
Can you judge on that?
Thanks,
Wael
Im not TOOOOO sure on the comparrision..but i do know GTab has Tegra 2 Dual Core...which is the best out there now. The BIG Tablets have this. So for speed..its there.
Touch Screen is Capacitive....which is very good. It just ships new with the TanNTap thing. Which sucks. But when you load one of the ROMs on it...its wayyy up there with the good Tablets. At least they say this on the net.
This probably isn't the best place to ask the question since this is gTablet forum & not a Viewpad 10 forum.
The dual boot Viewpad 10 is totally different from our gTablet. The only similarity is that they are both sold by Viewsonic. Viewpad has an Intel Atom(x86) processor (that's how it can run Win7) while the gTab has an Nvidia Tegra 2 (Arm) processor. Viewpad is running Android 2.2 X86 (android ported to run on Intel processors) while gTab is running Android native. Viewpad has 2G of DDR3 memory, gTab has 512M DDR2. Viewpad has either 16 or 32G SSD (solid state drive), gTab has a 16G emmc (embedded multimedia card).
While there may be a few users who have used a dual boot Viewpad, probably the vast majority here have not (as I have not).
I must have missed that. Thought he typed GTab. Yea..since it was a GTab thread i assumed that. Missed the Viewpad word he typed.
Thank you
Thanks for your answers. Yes, I am talking about the viewpad 10 and not the Gtab.
Do you think that no one tested it because it's not good?
Should I buy Samsung 10 or viewpad 10?
Hi,
I've almost made decision to buy 101 gen8 for my girlfriend as a first (budget) tablet, but just wanted to ask for your opinion. Especially for specific issues/limitations that gen8 might have as opposed to G9.
I had 101 G9 for a couple of days for testing and we liked it. But it's a more expensive option and not really offering that much more I think. To sum up differences:
1. On G8 real-use speed (processor) should be fine, not much worse than G9 I hope
2. screen not much worse according to reviews ? (apart from the angles which are told to be much worse)
3. one less usb port in G8, not a big issue (the G8 port should work with 3G stick too I presume)
4. no GPS in G9, not that needed here too
5. android version and ram available- and this might be an issue as only ICS might be available and not officially I guess -what are the clear advantages of honeycomb over froyo? I still don't know..
6. flash support- on G9 it generally worked in websites, on gen8 I'll have to mess with it I guess and the result will still be worse ? Is it a different flash version or just less working due to system ?
7. firmware/rom issues - I read in some posts there were some unresolved issues couple of months ago in G8. What is the current state of buggy-ness there considering newest updates? :/
8. anything else? battery performance looks to be about the same..
Thanks
G9 is much better, at least for me...
I had a 101 Gen8 for about 1 Year, and now I have a Gen9 80, and for me it is much better :
- G9 CPU has 2 Cores, G8 only 1
- Screen is much better
- My USB Host Port on G8 was broken after 1 Month, this happens a lot (read Forum), 3G on G8 works if you install UrukDroid, not in Stock Rom (Drivers missing)
- All G9 has GPS
- Android 3.2.1 is better for tablet, and in real Live it's true
- On my G8 101, I never had Deep Sleep, that means my Battery drains fast in Standby. That was the biggest Issue for me and the reason why I changed.
On G9 I have Deep Sleep
Have Fun...
Nicusasch
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
with new gen8 firmware
the Archos 3g dongle working on 101 gen8
yes the USB Host stops working, nothing happens on plug in USB Device.
My Last G8 Firmware was 2.4.80, and with this no Deep Sleep.
Remark : with the Cyanogen Mod from AOS, deep sleep is working, but in the Beta there are other Issues.
For a Month ago I decided to contact Archos Support about my two Issues (USB and Deep Sleep), I wrote the an Email and no arnswer until today
My Lucky was that I bought it by Amazon, I send the Device to Amazon and after 3 Days I became the Full Money Back. Since this, I am a big Fan from Amazon
With this Money I bought my new Gen 9 80...
Ciao
Nicusasch
przemke said:
yep, I saw these reports about usb. does it mean the hardware just stopped working ? what about your experiences of the warranty service of Archos ?
regarding the deep sleep I saw that in 2.4... (I think) firmware update it was finally working, or not ?
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usb died on my 101 as well. I mainly use it for surfing, so haven't sent in for warranty support yet. To get an RMA for your device it is best to call, as they are very slow responding to mail.
Screen on Gen 9 is way better than Gen 8 101. Also, unless rooted, there is a limit on the apps partition in Gen 8, so if you want to install a lot of apps and don't want to root, you may run up against this. I am not a heavy apps user, but I did run up against this limitation. No apps limitation, in gen 9.
Also, more RAM on Gen 9. Browser on Gen 8 frequently shuts down if you have too many pages open.
The gen 8 is still a good device for the money, but does have some limitations. Btw, I have the Gen 9 80, not the 101
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
przemke said:
OK can you just clarify what's the situation with flash support on gen8 ? is it working fine on websites after installing/upgrading to what is needed ?
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Flash 10.3 works best on my gen8. However it is very stuttery when trying to play video from amazon. Flash 11 is worse. I am using flash 11 on my gen 9 and movies play much smoother.
You tube app on gen8 works fine.
You might look at http://forum.archosfans.com/index.php.
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
przemke said:
Now I'm confused. there's a problem with availibility locally with 101 gen8 and I found out about arnova 10 g2 (or 10b g2 which seems only different externally and weighs more) - these have 1ghz ARM like 101 but 512mb are told to be generally fast with 2.3stock and can play full hd
also may have better screen (IPS?). downsides are lack of bt and hdmi, but these are not that needed in my case
Not sure about battery life, not much detailed reviews on 10 G2 found
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Did you see it in real ? I'd suggest to try to see all models running before taking a decision. G2 is IPS, but I've seen one and it appeared poor quality to me, certainly not equivalent to Samsung/Motorola or even Acer
I didn't have the 101 gen8 at the same time to compare, but in my memory they feels about the same quality.
my personal feeling regarding screen quality is: Gen9 > 70 Gen 8 > 101 Gen8, Arnova G2.
Regarding processing power, don't take ARM and GHZ value as a criteria. All of them are ARM, and GPU / # of cores / SOC (I'd say in this order for Android) are more interesting criteria.
Memory is a very important criteria, 512 MB memory is good, the 256 of Gen8s are a bit low.
TjaXanK said:
(Concerning emails to archos) Just send the mail twice, or 3 times and they will answer quickly, at least that's my experience with contacting them...
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I've also received quite fast responses but it seems me and the (I guess french) party on the dark side kinda did not get a point together )
As the topic says, I wonder if we can get a working copy on the Prime. Story follows:
CNET's Brooke Crothers says that his sources have told him that Windows 8 is now stable on the ARM platform and will be seeded to developers soon. He also suggests that the ARM versions of Windows 8 will indeed include the legacy Windows desktop.
"Windows 8 on ARM should go to developers in February, said one source, who had some hands-on time with a high-profile device from a major PC maker, adding that Windows 8 was impressive and stable," Crothers writes. "In October of last year [Windows 8 on ARM] scared the industry because it was unstable. But what we are seeing now is quite stable, said another source, who also confirmed an expected February developer time frame."
Among the other tidbits of interest in this post:
Less expensive. ARM-based Windows 8 devices will be less expensive than those based on x86 ... to the tune of "hundreds of dollars less on ARM. "
ARM and x86 releases will not be staggered. Despite rumors that the ARM- and x86-based versions of Windows 8 might ship at different times, Crothers's sources say that's not so. "The release of Windows 8 on ARM should not be later than the release of Windows 8 on Intel," the post notes.
Microsoft Office. According to one of Crothers's sources, "Office is fine [on ARM]." If true, this means that the legacy Windows desktop will be included on ARM-based versions of Windows.
Legacy applications. As expected, however, normal legacy applications will not work on ARM without being recompiled for that platform. "I'm not aware of any third-party legacy applications running on Windows 8 on ARM," one source told CNET.
Why so secret. One of the most vexing things about dealing with Microsoft these days is the veil of secrecy around anything about Windows 8. The app compatibility story on ARM-based Windows 8 versions may be a big part of this, the report suggests. "That's one of the snags that Microsoft is trying to work through. You want to come out with a fairly robust library of applications, one source said. Both believe this is one of the reasons Microsoft is being cautious about demonstrating Windows 8 on ARM."
Interesting stuff.
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http://www.winsupersite.com/blog/su...indows-8-arm-stable-heading-developers-142084
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
demandarin said:
OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
the_game_master said:
nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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$5 says if you install the latest drivers (synaptic I assume) from mfr site you can. The touch pad does NOT need to support multi touch, they basically say if it detects wierd input, assume 2 fingers for scrolling. Even worked on my old Pentium M which was definitely not multi touch. Won't give you pinch zoom like the new models but 2 finger scrolling is FORWARD compatible, at least with synaptic.
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nah that's just Microsoft being Microsoft.
I'm actually getting sort of use to Android now with the TPS, and now finding myself slip up and try to scroll with two fingers on my laptop's mousepad.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
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Right? I and the when I try to go back to using the touchpad its like I have never used it before.
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
xTRICKYxx said:
Ignore the Windows 8 ARM requirements. It is easy to install every previous version of Windows on much lower specs.
Back in February 2011, Microsoft was doing Tegra 2 demonstrations of Windows 8 on a very low-spec tablet.
Windows 8 can run very well on the Prime, it will just take time to get everything working.
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Good news to hear then. Can't wait till dual boot possibility then. Hopefully it can be as simple as an apk install..lol I had an old tilt2(rhodium) win mote phone. I was able to dualboot android, xdandroid, thru just a cab install.
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I find myself poking the screen on laptops now.... trying to scroll websites and launch programs
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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When my mother wanted to see if she could borrow my old notebook, I did that too, a lot....which oddlyshe had tried with my netbook once when fiddling with it, before getting a tablet lol.
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OG won't be an washy port. As Microsoft added some very secure securities to it to prevent being dual booted or loaded onto devices originally not meant for it. That's the first issue. Second issue is Microsoft released VERY STRICT GUIDELINES ON REQUIREMENTS OF SPECS in order for device to be able to run win 8. Take a look at them. Its crazy what they requiring. DEVELOPERS will have to work around this as prime or even future models don't met those specs. Actually no android tablet out now or coming Mets those specs.
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Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
TalynOne said:
Going by this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-8-tablet-requirements-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/17773
The specs aren't higher as much as they are just different and in some cases lower than what the Prime already offers.
* Display has to be 1366x768
- The current Prime is already 1280x800, which is darn close, I don't see problems fitting UI elements designed for a 1366x768 screen. And there are already tablets that will support 1920x1200 soon (next Prime demoed at recent CES). So some Android tablets have already surpassed that spec.
* Cameras must be 720p or better.
- Who cares, the back camera already surpasses this, but again software shouldn't care about this spec.
* Physical ‘touch marks’ for NFC hardware sensor to make using it easier.
- Whatever, just disable NFC support.
* One USB port, Bluetooth 4.0, WLAN, gyro, accelerometer, speakers, light sensor, and magnetometer must be fitted.
- With dock we have USB, Bluetooth is 3.0 is what we have currently, this might be a bit tricky to port depending on the driver model. I'm guessing the Magnetometer is for a fall sensor if you have a physical spinning hard disk in your tablet (yuck). And we have the rest already.
* Firmware must be UEFI
-Possibly trickiest requirement to get through depending on the OS software checks.
* USB 2.0 support.
- We have USB 3.0 support already, another spec the Prime has surpassed.
* Mandatory hardware buttons: power, rotation lock, windows key, volume up and volume down buttons.
- Rotation lock can be done via software, windows key might be trickier to implement. Hopefully we can do something like Button Savior does for Android (on screen soft buttons to emulate hardware buttons)
* Five point touch
- Another spec surpassed, we already have a 10 point touch sensor on the Prime.
* 10 GB free storage space.
-Easy to come by on our 32GB and 64GB Primes.
And what I would consider the most important spec isn't even specified, which is minimum CPU required for acceptable performance, classic Microsoft to only specify minimums for the surpuflous crap.
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OK, I see now. I guess the screen resolution and NFC requirement thru me off the most. Thanks for clarifying that.
Windows 8 was demonstrated lightly on the Tegra 2 platform and heavily on the Tegra 3 platform.
The Prime's hardware is there; it will just take some development.
Anyone Try to Install/Dual boot Windows 8 on Prime?
Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
cjsiegle said:
Just wondering if anyone owns the TF201 Prime and has actually tried to dual boot it or install Windows 8?
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that won't work at all since the win8 copy that's out right now is the x86 branch.
we need the arm branch to at least begin to start trying to get it working.
plus we need an unlocked bootloader as well.
Hello Guys,
I have bought a Dell Latitude t02g Table. The specs looks great - Windows 7 Pro - 1.5ghz atom processor, 2 GB Ram, 64GB SSD.
I think the specs are great but its just too damn sluggish when i run facebook or any flash games on it. very unresponsive on normal browsing.
I think this tablet can be great on Google Android x86 platform but After doing a lot of research - I see that people have installed LUBUNTU on it or windows 8 on it and are in a compromised situation. Where Windows 8 has blue screens and etc and moving on Lubuntu, has limited the functionality of he hardware graphics and rotations.
So much money paid for a device that promises a lot and so much disappointment .
I just wish if we could have a forum for this device where the XDA Team can make something super for this device - maybe an android port over that fully works and makes teh tablet smooth like other tablets.
Do you think there is something already out there that has fixed the tablet and makes it shine like a star as advertised? or will there be further enhancements on this and i can wait for it?
Or should i just sell it off for literally peanuts and forget about it
Any help/ hints would be great.
Thanks
AJ
delldell latitude 10 st2
I also wanted to know if for the dell latitude 10 st2 there was solution?
Try the latest windows. That's what I did. To make good use out of it. I installed Kodi n hooked it up to my TV via HDMI worked well. N then sold after a few weeks. Let me know how it goes
There's a fork of android for x86 architecture (http://www.android-x86.org/ ). Some year or two ago I tried few of provided builds but with mixed success. The issues is that bundled drivers are either generic and performance is bad, or different builds have different modules working ( like WiFi but no sound or sound but no WiFi)
It's not that difficult to get two kernel .config files from two most "working" builds and merge them together and build a new kernel, but the process itself is very time consuming (you have to compare files option by option manually, automerge is not an option in this case)
Builds were tegav2, asus_laptop and eeepc
Looks like http://www.android-x86.org/ project moved quite far since that time so maybe you want to give it a try. It's rather brick-safe and you can always go back to Windows/Linux.
Speaking of which, right now my ST has Win10 installed, but performance is bad. I'm thinking of installing clean ubuntu (from Minimal CD) with i3 WM to get maximum out of that hardware. On other laptop with similar specs such setup looks very promising