I'm running "Super Clean" 2.6 with the EB16 kernel. I understand what kernel modules are, but I can't figure out what "dummy tether" means and it doesn't appear to be explained anywhere that I can find. Does any one know what it's good (or bad) for?
I'm guessing it's a dummy replacement for the tether tracking in stock Fascinate Froyo kernels... Should only affect the QPST hack.
Sure it's related... but how? Does it stop the tether from working, stop them from monitoring it or what?
C'mon, think for a second. Why would jt & adryn add something to *stop* us from tethering?
They "think" it'll get rid of any tracking mechanism or at least that's what adrynalyne posted over at Android Central. You're still doing so at your own risk as usual.
hmmm i guess we'll have to wait for someone to get there bill next month to know for sure
Is this talking about Wireless Tether apps? Or built-in hotspot hacks?
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Eddog4DROID said:
Is this talking about Wireless Tether apps? Or built-in hotspot hacks?
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i would assume either
Its definitely something to stop the tracking inlaid in the stock kernal
Sounds like a cool feature. I guess we'll have to watch the dev threads and see if it actually works.
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Would this be possible once its implemented through a dev mod of froyo? I was bummed out to hear that tmobile its planning on charging us for something that should be standard when froyo his our phones. Anyone have any thoughts or direct me to a response if this was previously asked?
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Would this be possible once its implemented through a dev mod of froyo? I was bummed out to hear that tmobile its planning on charging us for something that should be standard when froyo his our phones. Anyone have any thoughts or direct me to a response if this was previously asked?
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where you hear that from? link? Would like to read up on it as well.
Spazzvogel said:
Would this be possible once its implemented through a dev mod of froyo? I was bummed out to hear that tmobile its planning on charging us for something that should be standard when froyo his our phones. Anyone have any thoughts or direct me to a response if this was previously asked?
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unless you pay them to do it with their app (or however they plan to implement it), how would they know you are tethering?
all the ways be have been tethering in now we should still be able to use to my knowledge...
someone correct me if im worng
kboater said:
unless you pay them to do it with their app (or however they plan to implement it), how would they know you are tethering?
all the ways be have been tethering in now we should still be able to use to my knowledge...
someone correct me if im worng
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Sorry for thr 2x post. From what I read they monitor usage upto 5gs. Then they throttle your speed down. Now question is will this be the same after Froyo? Will they just remove mobile ap like they did in eclair?
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Sorry for thr 2x post. From what I read they monitor usage upto 5gs. Then they throttle your speed down. Now question is will this be the same after Froyo? Will they just remove mobile ap like they did in eclair?
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It's all about options, you can rely on OTA update, and keep your phone pristine stock condition (software-wise) and pay the provider, or you can root, forget about OTA, load a custom ROM and make the most out of your hardware and software and do not pay the provider (just support your devs!) - just be a man enough to admit you fessed up when the things go south.
It's up to you, but remember you have a choice unlike other guys using other mobile phone system(s).
I actually work at T-Mo, as far as I know they only way to honestly "Stop" the tethering is to throttle you at 5GB(not really stop, just slow you to below dial-up speed)... I know that we aren't supposed to tell people they can still tether without the feature, but it is possible from what I have seen... I'm looking for a way to bypass it as well.
As soon as the Vibrant gets support Officially for the Netflix app everyone should start flooding T-mobile or whoever ur SP is and complain, complain, complain about hitting the cap. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it
*EDIT* I think I misunderstood the OP so my post may not be relevant to this thread, sorry. But I'm not deleting it I believe its important none the less.
A handful of my co-workers on various Verizon Android phones were saying that Gingerbread updates stop tethering apps from working, even if rooted and side-loaded.
I would like to try CM7 since it just released, but I can't lose my tethering! Am I worrying about nothing?
I'm using WiFi tether on CM7 and it works fine. You shouldn't have to worry since CM7 is not built by Verizon or anything, so they can't block tethering apps in the OS.
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I'm using WiFi tether on CM7 and it works fine. You shouldn't have to worry since CM7 is not built by Verizon or anything, so they can't block tethering apps in the OS.
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Good to hear! I'll probably give CM7 a whirl once it's stable.
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I'm using WiFi tether on CM7 and it works fine. You shouldn't have to worry since CM7 is not built by Verizon or anything, so they can't block tethering apps in the OS.
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Can you link the wifi tether you use please, and let me know if you changed any settings. I'm rocking MIUI, not sure if that matters or not but doesn't hurt to try.
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Can you link the wifi tether you use please, and let me know if you changed any settings. I'm rocking MIUI, not sure if that matters or not but doesn't hurt to try.
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I'm using this WiFi tether app: http://android-wifi-tether.googlecode.com/files/wifi_tether_v3_1-beta2.apk
Once installed, I went to the settings, and changed the Device-Profile to Google NexusOne. Works great and it shouldn't matter if it's CM7 or MIUI.
I'm on the newest miui using wifi tether app with no problems
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A handful of my co-workers on various Verizon Android phones were saying that Gingerbread updates stop tethering apps from working, even if rooted and side-loaded.
I would like to try CM7 since it just released, but I can't lose my tethering! Am I worrying about nothing?
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They are blocking tethering on stock roms, so if you are running CM7/MIUI etc you will be fine.
You may have to sideload. Verizon asked Google to hide certain apps, like PDAnet, from the market. This violates their net neutrality agreement, and they are being sued over it. Verizon stock updates are also set to tattle on you if you tether. If running touchwiz, I believe you need a modified kernel with dummy tether.
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For devices the Verizon is giving an official Gingerbread build, they are slipping in ways to disable Wireless Tether. It's also hidden in the market, but it's easy to find an APK to install yourself. However, if you're running Gingerbread on the fascinate, you're doing it on a custom ROM, which doesn't have that nasty bit of Verizon code.
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For devices the Verizon is giving an official Gingerbread build, they are slipping in ways to disable Wireless Tether. It's also hidden in the market, but it's easy to find an APK to install yourself. However, if you're running Gingerbread on the fascinate, you're doing it on a custom ROM, which doesn't have that nasty bit of Verizon code.
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I am 99% certain I know the answer to this, but I just want to be 100% sure;
I am running SuperClean 3 Milestone 1, TW Launcher, and KGB Kernel with Voodoo enabled on my Fascinate. I just installed http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/detail?name=wireless_tether_2_0_7.apk, but haven't tried it yet. Is Verizon going to know if I am tethering with this configuration?
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I think it honestly depends.
If you are using it to seach the web and do basic surfing than i dont think it matters to them.
If you start streaming Netflicks at HD quality or Bit Torrents [heavy bandwidth], they might suspect something.
I have used both the wifi tether and barnacle on ICS and GB for quick and dirty usage and i have never had VZW say a thing to me.
That is just my personal experience.
My $0.02:
I am running SC3 Milestone 2 and the KGB FA16 Kernel and have had no trouble tethering with my tablet or laptop using wifi tether 3.1 Beta 6.
You can pick your Beta flavor for the app using the link CCampos provided.
I have not tethered. Though I want to. (Hotspot feature) don't want Verizon to suspect something and then charge me.
Can't they charge me if they find out?
If I'm running CM7, will they still know?
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I have not tethered. Though I want to. (Hotspot feature) don't want Verizon to suspect something and then charge me.
Can't they charge me if they find out?
If I'm running CM7, will they still know?
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My (very limited) understanding as of right now is that a custom ROM alone is not enough to keep Verizon in the dark. A think you need a custom kernel as well to be safe, and never use the Verizon hot spot app. Am I right?
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All other discussion aside, clockwork mod has put a new app out that allows usb tethering without root on any ROM and can not be blocked by any carrier. Just search cwm or clock work mod in the market
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All other discussion aside, clockwork mod has put a new app out that allows usb tethering without root on any ROM and can not be blocked by any carrier. Just search cwm or clock work mod in the market
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Maybe Verizon can't block you from tethering with this app, but can they monitor if you are? And then hit you with a charge later, or drop you from service?
My. 02 cents.....I use an App called Open Garden Wifi with no problems at all.
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Just throwing this out there: I've never seen any *confirmed* reports of Verizon retroactively charging customers for "illegal" tethering, or ending your service/contract. Not sure why people get so worried about getting caught, it's not like the phone police are gonna come take you to jail.
If I'm wrong on this and Verizon is in fact charging those who tether (who don't pay Verizon's tethering charge) or terminating their contracts, I'd love to see evidence to the contrary.
I ran up 18 gb last month. From Xbox live and other teathering because its my only access. Never have issues.
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My. 02 cents.....I use an App called Open Garden Wifi with no problems at all.
+1 to this. Best tethering app imo
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so what's the easiest solution to get tethering to work for someone who updated firmware of the phone to latest version to get rid of random reboots?
how would one get tethering to work? do i have to root it? can i do it somehow without rooting it? like there was a hack for droidx or something similar?
and if root the only one choice which is best tested app to use for that?
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so what's the easiest solution to get tethering to work for someone who updated firmware of the phone to latest version to get rid of random reboots?
how would one get tethering to work? do i have to root it? can i do it somehow without rooting it? like there was a hack for droidx or something similar?
and if root the only one choice which is best tested app to use for that?
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Come to Synergy and use the hacked WiFi Hotspot for free. If for no other reason, that makes Synergy unique.
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Wireless tether
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Root and use wireless tether
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
two options really...
First... If you are STOCK, then pay VZW to add the Mobile Broadband Connect feature (aka Mobile Hot Spot) to your account, and use the Built in Mobile Hot Spot app.
Why do this? you don't have to root or anything.. and you wan to abide by VZW's Terms of Service (TOS).
Second.. If you are rooted and/or using a custom rom, then use the link that Deltaechoe posted to install "Wifi Tether for Root"
Why do this? You just want to tether and don't care about VZW's TOS, or you accept any possible consequences for violating VZW's TOS should they decide to take action (I'm not saying VZW will do anything, but there is always that chance so use at your own risk... And I'm not going to debate if its right, wrong, ok, not ok, etc).
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Come to Synergy and use the hacked WiFi Hotspot for free. If for no other reason, that makes Synergy unique.
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Just curious how that makes Synergy unique if Wifi Hotspot has been in CM7 for months? :shrug:
im rooted and using Barnacle. Seems to work okay cuz i was able to make this post.
will I still have the speeds provided by the tethering?
can vzw still track if were using wifi hotspots? And does the feature work on cm7?
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I got a hotspot related question and I didnt want to make a new lame thread about it: thinking of fitting my friend with CM7, how is the hotspot hack working now a days? I see this is an old thread so was there any progress on that? also, im not sure what the data limit is on verizon but Im curious how the hotspot hack works exactly
Just curious as to what everyone uses to tether over wifi? I tried barnacle but my tablet won't find the network, barnacle works fine on my attic but not the S2. Any particular reason?
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Just curious as to what everyone uses to tether over wifi? I tried barnacle but my tablet won't find the network, barnacle works fine on my attic but not the S2. Any particular reason?
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I just use whats already included in UnNamed (same as stock) for wifi/usb tethering.
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Just curious as to what everyone uses to tether over wifi? I tried barnacle but my tablet won't find the network, barnacle works fine on my attic but not the S2. Any particular reason?
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You shouldn't need an app
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I've just seen a lot of people get caught that way which is why I didn't want to do that.
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I've just seen a lot of people get caught that way which is why I didn't want to do that.
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Its honestly about how much data you end up using, if you go crazy and start using 50gb then they will want to switch you.
They give warnings before they do anything and they are starting to throttle people after a certain point.
You can try this for USB Tethering - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424676
He claims to found a way to hide it but they still know how much data you use.
Basically, don't use a desktop browser. It's one of the #1 ways to get the tether police on your ass. People are getting nastygrams after only using the "desktop useragent" feature of Dolphin HD 2-3 times.
Otherwise, native tethering (remove TetheringManager2.apk if on a stock ROM) works best. Only one that isn't adhoc.
OK. So I was in iHell for a few years and got pretty good with the file system/ jailbreaking. So I've since been paroled (from Jail-breaking :l ) and PRESTO!!! Im a noob again.
Im still debating on flashing but im gonna root for sure. I need to check my facts here. I can root via any mentioned method. I'll need to install titanium (?) to freeze that network check to use the native hotspots. (The name of that file escapes me but I can search it up later)
Anything else for now? Is busybox worth it?
On a semi-related note, I've not had multiple ROMs available to me. What's the benifit to other Roms? I mean what does CM have that stock doesn't? Is there a break down or spread sheet to compare capabilities?
This may sound goofy, but I can already do everything that I wanted my old iPhone to do on stock, but if flashing will bring more, cooler, and
as yet unimagined toys to my newly Android enriched life, I'm all about flashing. What say you XDA?
Sorry for the long post. Caffeine makes me type a lot.
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Well follow the guide inn general about how to flash custom binaries, it'll help. Also, most rooms take care of the tetheringmanager2.apk sup you don't need to do anything else, it works out of the box. Make sure to use a mobile user agent while browsing, and you should be fine.
As a starting point, I suggest unnamed or icscrewed (both roms I've personally tried and that both are great)
The most common side effect of having a custom ROM is the desire to show it off, awesome battery life, good support and limitless customization. Just read before you do anything and you'll be golden.
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