Related
What does everyone think of this device so far. My wife is out of contract and this might be her first smartphone. Any opinions are much appreciated.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
I'm on my second one in less than a week. First one died randomly rebooting about every 5 minutes. Now my new one I just got yesterday just randomly rebooted.
When I took it back, the rep said it just needed hard reset, so she did it, then it rebooted in her hand! It was classic.
Terrible track record so far!
Outta the box, meh.
4 hours outta the box with some tweaking (root, freeze bloat, new launcher, etc) Best phone I've ever had.
Only downside is the locked bootloader which means no AOSP ROMS. But I think I can live with that.
Also MANY people have whined and cried about the penTile display, in my opinion the screen is beautiful. Some apps aren't optimized for the new higher resolution yet so they look a little "off" but it's no big deal. No fault of the phone but of app designers. It should get fixed in due course.
Sent from my DROID X2
Love it so far
I upgraded from the original droid running cyanogen 7 and I love the X2 so far. I installed laucherpro right away and rooted to install wired and wireless tether and freeze some of the bloatware that came with it.
I had a couple random reboots at first but I have not had one for a couple weeks now.
I was a little worried about the battery life at first but after a few days my battery must have finally been broken in and Im pleasantly surprised with the battery life.
No matter what you read elsewhere the screen is AMAZING... you can see it outside while its bright on the lowest setting, you bump it up to the highest and you can see it perfectly in direct sunlight.
People will also bash how much ram this has. Lots of people think that only having 512mb is a horrible thing. But if you actually do some research and learn about how android uses ram you'll realize that extra ram does no good. Essentially if its not being used its being wasted. I run a widget that I can click to see how much ram is left and its usually between 50 and 100. My friend has an atrix and his is usually around 400... which proves that hes not using the extra 512 he has available. So maybe down the road there will be some apps or a new version of android that will need 1gb or ram but i highly doubt it will be before Im up for another upgrade.
Rooting is a must
This was my upgrade from the Droid Incredible also rooted using Sky-Raider, and Cyanogen(mod) 7.0.3. The qHD and the dual core processor sold me on the phone.
After unboxing the I was struck by the brilliance and clarity of the screen and the phone was quite responsive at times. Easily viewable in direct sunlight (even when dimmed)but the phone was hanging when navigating to the home screen and the batter life was less than a day with light moderate use.
I rooted the phone using GingerBreak and after removing Bloatware, it is the best phone that I have seen for the price $199.99 with upgr.
The phone is worth the money, brilliant screen, responsive, and I am satisfied with the performance for now until there is a stable rom for it. Just ran benchmark with Quadrant Standard at 2128!
Read the engadget review posted 6-5-2011.
I really appreciate the opinions everyone. It seems like a great phone, but I think I'm getting her the Droid 3 simply because she's coming from the env touch (assbag of a phone btw) and would appreciate the physical keyboard. Thanks again.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App
You folks had better luck than me. First the good points that made me want to keep it.
Build
Display
Battery life
Call quality
Speed for game emulators
Radio reception
Easy to root
Form factor suits one hand operation better than other 4.3"
Tegra 2 has very good audio quality
Why I returned it.
Where is the memory? I appreciate that 108mb of the 512mb ram appears to be allocated to the GPU, but if you add up the OS, Home UI, OS tasks, opened user apps and free ram, there is still about 160mb missing out of 404mb. You can apply a memory script to help out, but the memory slowly leaks away, even with the script. The DX2 starts to lag.
MP3 pops and clicks. This is probably due to the low operational ram mentioned above, but even when not multitasking, there are random pops and clicks and gets much worse if multitasking.
Flash can spike the device temps past 115 degrees. Flash does not appear to get on with the DX2 firmware. Heat spikes and the battery is drained like the DX2 is on an LTE radio.
Random reboots. It seems to mainly happen during web browsing, Flash playback and playing video files. While I was debating on keeping it or not (due to the good things mentioned at top) and rationalizing that the issues would be fixed, my DX2 rebooted while updating a few market apps. I considered that a sign to return it.
Seems better to return it and see if they fix the problems, rather than get stuck with the DX2, IF the problems are not fixed.
IF they fix the issues, I will buy the DX2 again, or wait for the Bionic. I am more likely to get the DX2 again, since I doubt a 4.5" qHD LCD display, dual core and LTE will have very good battery life.
The DX2 would rock REAL hard if the issues are fixed. I have a gTablet with same chipset, 512mb ram and Froyo and it does not have the issues noted.
added:
I miss the DX2, mainly due to the sweet display Back to my Incredible for now
For my part, I've seemingly resolved the quirky behaviour by enabling the performance profile. The "medium" setting would cause reboots and strange laggy app issues. I'm still likely to get the Bionic later as well, and trade this one in for credit. I tend to swap between my upgrade, and my wife's line upgrade.
Ruoh said:
For my part, I've seemingly resolved the quirky behaviour by enabling the performance profile. The "medium" setting would cause reboots and strange laggy app issues. I'm still likely to get the Bionic later as well, and trade this one in for credit. I tend to swap between my upgrade, and my wife's line upgrade.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is the profile setup?
Dark_Wizard said:
Where is the profile setup?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
settings> battery & data manager> battery mode
stronggeek said:
settings> battery & data manager> battery mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thx!
10char
If you don't need 4G LTE or a front-facing camera, it's a great purchase on Verizon. First dual-core phone for them! More power means longer shelf-life for keeping up with demanding apps/games. Large qHD res screen, Tegra 2 processor, solid build quality and pretty decent camera. Some people don't like the Blur UI, but it's not as bad as it used to be. You can always replace with a third party launcher too.
If this phone didn't look exactly like the original Droid X, people would probably be talking about it more. I'm especially enjoying the tegra 2 gaming - Riptide Gp (link)
Mine is working alright for me, I can attest the Motorola bloatware does slow down the phone quite a bit.
I also have Quadrant only reading "1 Core" so I don't know if Quadrant needs to be updated or the rumors are true that the CPU is limited till we get the Ginger from Motorola.
As far as hardware goes, I doubt the 512mb of RAM will make a difference once we start using custom ROMs and remove quite a bit of the bloat. The Tegra 2 seems to make everything really snappy, the battery is better than my Droid 2, I do miss the keyboard though, so your wife may really really like the keyboard or hate it. I am a really really really big fan of the keyboard phones, but my phone died and they offered to let me upgrade early so I went with a Tegra 2.
Although with all the Motorola software / Verizon software etc. It runs pretty sluggish at times and the significant other's Captivate will run circles around my phone despite being just the Galaxy S internals. She likes to rub that in.
I just smile and wait till I end up running Liberty or MIUI on my phone so I can destroy her smug-ness.
I'm coming from a BB Storm and am super impressed by the DX2...all of the reasons I told myself I DIDN'T need an android phone are the reasons I am using this sucker so often. Love the apps. Here are some of my concerns:
HEAT - The plate below the battery cover, where the speaker is becomes too hot to touch at some points. After reading some of the forums it seems that this will occur more if I am watching flash or doing some major downloading. Three weeks in, it seems to be managed better as I am using Advance App Killer whenever I use the phone to kill process that start when I am doing nothing more than texting.
BATTERY LIFE - At first I was getting about 3-4 hours with moderate to heavy use. As another poster stated above, the battery seems to have broken in a bit, though it seems I will always need to pack a charger if I will be out for more than five or six hours.
MP4 PLAYBACK - I have tried to put 1-2gig mp4's on the SD card in a folder created called "_movies", but the X2 seems to struggle playing these files. On videos I have made using the X2, playback is not a problem. Error message is "File cannot be displayed or played". Annoying.
DISAPPEARING / GHOSTING APPS: Similarly, I have dropped adk files into a folder created called "apps" on the SD card (or sdcard-ext as IDed in file search). I have used my laptop in two ways to write the files: 1) with X2 tethered via USB using Windows 7 to copy/paste files on the SD and 2) removed the SD from X2 and plugged mini-SD into adapter to write files directly to SD.
UNIQUE NOTIFICATION: My BB had the ability to assign separate ringtones to different email accounts...I'm sure that I can do this with an app, but it seems so much easier in the BB settings menu thand the android.
So in researching these issues it seems all paths lead back to one thing: Rooting the phone. I have gingerbreak and am ready to do this, but am reluctant to do it knowing I have about 28 hours setting this phone up custom and I know I will have to start from scratch on that customization. Can anyone confirm that post-root I will still be utilizing the MOTOBLUR? I read a lot about people who hate it, but I like the 7 screens and widgets.
Just my 2 cents on the device. Overall, very happy. I'm sure I'll be extremely happy post-root as I think I am reading that rooting the device will solve a lot of the file and OS issues listed above.
Rock on, great forum. FIRST POST. android noob.
Like it so far , pretty much as good as the X1. The screen looks great , they really improved the visibility in sunlight.
Otherwise I do have a few of the common issues like music skip, slow screen turn on, and random reboots. I figure they will get sorted when I can get a better rom installed.
I'm liking the X2 just fine. I upgraded from the Incredible and I'm glad I didn't go for the DI2. Dual Core...hell yea! Beautiful 4.3" display...hell yea! My guess is that things will get better with easy rooting and Gingerbread. Besides, I didn't really like my DI until I started using customs ROMs and cleaned out the bloatware.
I love it and dont need 4g and wont get it here for years
If your not in 4g area and want a phone better than all the 4g phones get this one. i love this phone i had thunderbolt for a bit but it sucked it lagged like a Mother Trucker. I hate that the bootloader is locked cuz i love stock roms but o well ill live i have launcher pro plus running on mine with it rooted and ALOT of stuff FROZEN it makes it way faster and runs really smooth. i have heard alot of ppl complain about how much launcher pro sucks on this device but it think it works great i may have it have to reload widgets and such 1 out of a 100 times win i hit the home button but prob more like 1 out of 250. also i have used golauncher but i had a few problems with it stock blur actually works decent to but i dont like the look of it and i love 3d app drawer. i cant say ull love the phone but i know i do its by far best phone on verizon. Now if i could get a nexus on verizon id b the happiest man alive but o well i cant so ill have to live with my dx2 until they get a nexus or until another carrier can get service in southern il.
Been thinking of getting a tablet so went into Currys today to have a look. love the screen on the GTab but found it was very laggy swipping through home screens? compared it to the Xoom next to it and that was smooth as silk?
I even reset the GTab to see if that would help but no change and if i put a live wallpaper on it got even worse? i tried all 3 they had on display and all the same, i did notice though they all had touchwiz installed?
I really like the GTab but was put off by this experience, can someone tell me if this is normal?
fastyan said:
Been thinking of getting a tablet so went into Currys today to have a look. love the screen on the GTab but found it was very laggy swipping through home screens? compared it to the Xoom next to it and that was smooth as silk?
I even reset the GTab to see if that would help but no change and if i put a live wallpaper on it got even worse? i tried all 3 they had on display and all the same, i did notice though they all had touchwiz installed?
I really like the GTab but was put off by this experience, can someone tell me if this is normal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looking at Touchwiz update reviews on Youtube, it seems extremely laggy compared to my Xoom. Strangely all say it's really smooth after the Touchwiz update. I don't know, either they have never used a Xoom (Android 3.2) or I'm just seeing things.
But i couldn't resist and ordered the GT10.1 anyway, i guess i will find out soon enough...
I've had both the Xoom and the Tab.
Probably less than .0001% of my time is spent swipping through screens. A HUGE percentage of my time is spent holding the tablet. The reason I took the XOOM back is because my left hand ached (I'm right handed) at the end of the day holding the Xoom. It's heavy, deceptively heavy.
At the end of the day my left hand doesn't ache with the Tab.
Simple rule of thumb: Determine what you will do with the device most of your day and evaluate how it performs on that. Don't use fluff as a decision criteria.
With the latest update (TouchWiz) I have 0 lag. They need to get those display models updated to give potential buyers a REAL look at the current speed. I love my tab!!
Don't forget that, in a lot of videos, there are a bunch of widgets on every homescreen. That slows things down a lot. Moreover, with something like apps organizer, you really only need one homescreen. Lastly, the touchwiz update does help a lot - especially if you do the + button then go to the more tab thing.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA App
With the OTA excess widgets removed, and non-live wallpapers in-use seems pretty smooth for me.
giltwist said:
Don't forget that, in a lot of videos, there are a bunch of widgets on every homescreen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was hoping that this is why it seems to be lagging so much.
I dont know about the xoom but having recently shifted from the asus transformer, i can tell you that the samsung tab lags in comparison. No offense intended but I personally find that even the stock rom i had with asus performed better than the finest custom roms over here ( even with fresh install with no apps installed). This is because both the xoom and tf are using very light and stock roms while samsung added a lot of bloatware with the touchwiz. Also i tend to believe the white theme adopted in touchwizz literally slows down the whole experience.
HOWEVER, inspite of tht, i do believe that the samsung tab is a premium quality device and outweighs the other tabs because of its weight and size.
Xoom: fast but very heavy
TF: fast but a bit heavy and too wide for a tablet. ( you cannot even type at ease using swift key)
Bear in mind that this is something that you ll be holding your hand for hours maybe.... So in the end size and weight might matter more than speed depending what you intend to do with it
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk
Double post
thanks for the replies they all help, was just a little put off by the fact that 3 demo machines were really laggy and stuttery.
TabGuy your right, i would hardly ever swipe between screens in normal use but its just the fact that that before you buy something you try it out and if something doesnt seem to be how you expect a premium device to work then that puts dought in your mind.
Its alot of money for me (as i am sure it is for others too) to be spending out on a device and i just want to make sure i get the right tab
fastyan said:
thanks for the replies they all help, was just a little put off by the fact that 3 demo machines were really laggy and stuttery.
TabGuy your right, i would hardly ever swipe between screens in normal use but its just the fact that that before you buy something you try it out and if something doesnt seem to be how you expect a premium device to work then that puts dought in your mind.
Its alot of money for me (as i am sure it is for others too) to be spending out on a device and i just want to make sure i get the right tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My tf died yesterday but i popped into currys tiday and got a white one having used the tf from day one i can say i much prefer the tab and havent noticed any lag at all yet. I had the tf on prime rom and oc kernel and it was great also but the tab for me wins out however as not to be flamed the tf is also a good unit esp if u want the dock sdcard etc
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium App
think im gonna go for it, was going for the Xoom as currys have reduced the price to under £400 if you buy online but the GTab was calling my name lol.
wanted the SD card option really but have read about the new Seagate Go Flex satalite HDD which will solve all storage space problems which opens the door to the GTab
https://plus.google.com/10083827609...aJRGS#100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Any dev's or knowledgeable people want to take a crack at this? Is it based in fact, fiction, or irrelevant?
IDK, some things made since and some didnt. The whole writup seemed to be based on iOs vs. Android on scrolling. If you break down what iOs is, its an app launcher. Android is a home screen with live widgets and information. A true comparison would be Androids app page vs. iOs since both would be app launchers.
I never understood why people try and compare apples to oranges... or in this case, an app launcher to a 5 page home screen with tons of live information on it.
I think the guy was pretty clear on identifying bias and also gaugeing how factual his claimes are. I believe him and am confident that the corrections have made it Accurate.
The last post is true. Apple has locked down and simplified their os in the sake of smoothness. Where android has opted to provide a mors content rich experiance.
But at the same time hardware fragmentation is huge, ik he says that no matter how powerful the phones get this is a limitatikn, there is a huge problem with the fact that... Some procs. Support neon and other optimizations while ofhers don't. More often than not, app devs write their apps for the least powerful in an attempt to capture everyone, in the end, the most powerful loose out on the true potential of their device.
Look at push for example, most apps that i see still have bruit force check every 5 min type notifications even though android now has push. this is getting fixed, but slowly.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using XDA App
I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
CyberpunkDad said:
I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought it was just the United States carriers that did this?
But, as android is an open model it opens up possibilities for carriers to customize the devices as they wish at little to no cost, also, allowing them to install apps to earn sidestreamed revenue.
I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
demon9206 said:
I hate the carrier branding on my phone. I really really wish there was a way to get the AT&T logo off my phone.
The only place I'd allow it is the sim card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what you and I and many others in US pay for a subsidized phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
No lag problems with my 10.1...
CyberpunkDad said:
I think the biggest problem android faces is the carriers. Buy an iPhone and there is zero carrier crap installed. Buy android and bloaty mcfatty land.
Thanks to xda development we can purge this crap (revs you rock!), but for the vast majority this is akin to voodoo and they would never attempt it.
As such android gets a bad rap. If the carriers would just be content with having their names on the phone and nothing else I posit that there would be globally better view of android. Just my two cents.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
WMguy said:
Bingo! This is exactly what I have thought for years. Buy an unlocked Nexus S if you doubt this at all and you'll see a different Android. Or, root your phone, flash a vanilla rom and install something like ADWLauncher EX and set it to "fast". Once all the crap and skin is wiped, my current GS2 switches tasks and pages so fast that sometimes I can't even see it happen. I literally burned my hand the other day on my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I really can't get my head around is how AT&T can think that people want their ****ty apps. They are an embarrassment.
I'm no expert, but I think that some of the apps that are on our phones out-of-box are there so that the price of the phone can be driven shown a bit more. It makes sense that AT&T would have agreements with the app makers to get money for including their app. Maybe they use that revenue to offset the overhead of distributing the device and pass that savings along to their customers.
I'm certainly not defending what they do, but just saying that could be a reason why some of this crapware is pre-installed.
Another way to look at it would be that many of the apps cost money to use. They will enroll you in some service you don't need (AT&T Nav, Live TV, etc.). Then they can steal from us by placing these little services onto our plan to be billed monthly. I have worked in customer care for one of "the big four" carriers and they would train us to employ similar tactics to trick existing customers into buying stuff. They're really like fat leaches attached to the inside of our wallets.
I have a focus and a gs2. Yes wp7 scrolls the home screen, notice I say screen since there is only one, smooth as silk. The animations are also very smooth but way too much and slowwww. Where you see the difference is in apps. Hell rebooting my focus takes forever. The engadget app and lazy tube app on wp7 really make the phone stutter and freeze. I have iPhones, winphones and androids and in my experience the gs2 is by far the fastest phone i own by a large margin. I still love the iPhone and winphone btw. The winphone is a first Gen device so it's performance is damned impressive. The animations and how slow it scrolls webpages/long lists annoy me. In android if you flick down a list real fast it goes like lightning, on the winphone it has a governor of sorts and I find myslef constantly trying to get it to scroll faster.
I know it sounds like I'm crapping on the winphone but that's not the case. It really is a cool os handbills recommend trying it out. I got a used focus for next to nothing.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
Again, people are comparing apples to oranges... an app launcher (or in WinMo case, an app launcher with really large app links) to a multi-page homescreen with live information.
Try this, use the App launcher in Android and scroll back and fourth, up and down and now compare it to iOs or WinMo. YA, NOW THEY SCROLL THE SAME!!!
If you feel that your home screen is laggy, then either get a new launcher, or dont put any widgets/icons/shorcuts/pictures/ANYTHING on your home screen.
foxbat121 said:
But my unsubsidized Galaxy Tab 10.1 wi-fi is still laggy as hell. It's not the fault of carrier bloatware. Android OS is the one to blame. My WP7 phones runing a single core 1GHz Sanpdragon is much more smoother than any Android phones I owned, including the GS2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
smknutson said:
You shouldve exchanged that GS2. I guarantee it would/should kick wp7 in its ass in terms of performance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
Remember, I'm purely talking about home screen. When it comes to app, a lot of other factors come into play and CPU speed does make a difference. Home screen is where we spent most time and most complaint about lag is about.
foxbat121 said:
No you can't. Obviously you don't own a WP7. All Android phones I handled (BTW, my co-worker has another GS2, same deal) are no where near the smoothness of year old (with two year old single core Snapdragon) Samsung Focus in terms of home screen smoothness. When it comes to lag and stutters, I'm writing it off as the necessary evil I have to deal with if I'm going to use any Android devices. Too those who deny it, you need to go out and play with other platforms like WP7 or iPhone to understand what is lag.
I like Android. Thus I'm on my second Android Phone and even own an Android tablet. But to deny the obvious and inherent flaw in the OS is either ignorant or pure fanboyism.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Opening apps in WP7 has a considerable delay too. The WP7 homescreen is nothing, but a start menu. The live tile functionality really isn't there yet.
Yes, app loading is slow on first version of WP7 but it has greatly improved since then. What's the point of a great home screen when it lags like hell? GS2 is much better than my Captivate as well as my GTab 10.1. But I can still feel some slight lagness. My GTab 10.1 is almost unusable until 3.2 ROM released. Android's only saving grace right now is the raw processing power increase of the new phones that hides these inherent flaws in the OS. Google, or its partners, still has a long way to go to improve the UX of Android OS.
I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
If you are new to Android coming from the iPhone then you'll feel that way for a bit. I did miss my iPhone but once these awesome devs clear up some bugs you'll be really happy....if you like customizing. I couldn't stand iTunes so once I got around the noobness point, Android is so much nicer. The iPhone is more for people that just want to push an icon like my wife and kids.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
sunshines4u said:
I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea if you are stock you shouldn't have too many problems. The beauty of the xda forum is you can tell us your problem and people get together to help solve it. Id rather use xda than talk to a genius any day.
Tell us what's wrong so we can help you.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
Most likely a bad device.
I have had mine since mid December...all stock, only updates via Kies.
It's been more stable than 2.2.2 on my Dell Streak.
As for a 5" iPhone, well, Jobs is gone so anything is possible.
You watch though...if Apple comes out with a screen anywhere near the
size of 5", the iphone fanbois will trumpet it out that it is an innovation and
the best thing in the world LOL.
lol you do realize stuff crashes consistantly on the iphone it just doesnt tell you right?
Force Closes are from improperly written apps. this happens, there are so many varients in the Android world it is hard to keep up with the changes.
Apple has a set screen size depending on the device, Android has many different screen sizes.
If you like to DUMB down then go back to the iPhone.
sunshines4u said:
I'm going back to iphone.
This thing force closes way too much.... I know rooting and custom ROM can address some of it but I feel iphone is still optimized better than android. OK maybe I don't know but I just never had any issues with their hardware or apps.
Yeah I guess I'm not the type of person who really appreciates customization capability. I realized ONLY thing I like about this particular android is the large screen.
Sorry this is just a bad morning and my android is acting all ****ed up. Happens way too often.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First I was gonna tell you "see ya", but I guess I'll say that I have no, not one, force close and my device is closer to me than wrist watch or glasses... My device functions this way because I read about everyone else problems and solutions and either avoid the base situation, or utilize the communities experiences for the solution... Our Android family bought our grandfather an iPhone because of his age... Lmao. Does that tell you anything? If you must go then thanks for stopping by, but if you can stay, we will do our level best to match your enthusiasm and drive...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
ferchope said:
i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Blasphemy
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
ferchope said:
i'd be very happy with a g note running webos .that would be great
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol! you must not need apps at all
astang99 said:
Thats wierd, im stock and i rarely get any force closes. Usually the only FC's i get are due to apps on their end. I love how everyone always says how the apple apps never crash, blah blah blah. I guess stupid tech will always have its place
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There was actually a study published a few months ago that showed that major iPhone apps actually crash more often than their Android counterparts; however, since the iPhone doesn't display a message to the user when that happens, and it doesn't give the users an option to report the crash, most iPhone users perceive fewer crashes. (In other words, they simply think that they must have hit the Home or Close buttons since all the iPhone does is crash back to their homescreens).
The second theory on why this is the case is that it's much easier and faster to release app updates on Android markets. Android devs can easily roll out responsive updates while iPhone devs have to submit every single update to Apple's ridiculous approval process.
Story here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/
The truth will set you free.
I've been running the I717 since day one and I've gotten exactly 1 FC from a weird app I downloaded. once I deleted it I was good. Try doing a factory reset and start fresh. download apps that have 4 or more stars. My phone has been a champ from day one with all the crap I throw at it (not even screen slowdowns like some are reporting). If you don't like it, you don't like it, there's no harm in that. All I know is my Ipod frustrates me something fierce when I use it so irritations go both ways. Hope you stick around, the stock ICS should be wandering through in the next couple of months. If you don't want to wait, I hear there's awesome Roms of ICS already. check it out.
I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
I haven't had an fc since i flashed team perfections latest pics rom. IPhones might be solid but they're so damn boring and plain
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
Then Samsung should sue them for "copying"
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
I feel like the microwave has screwed everything up. Of something takes a half second to open, we're screaming lag!!!
I like tech stuff but it's still a phone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
reyderosquillas said:
I'm not talking about waiting for things to open.. I'm talking about stutter lag & multiple second to go back to the home screen lag. Legitimate lag.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my experience with android devices the major culprit for lag is on screen widgets that update. If you set up your device like ios with nothing but apps you will see no lag. If you use widgets and stuff you might redraw.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
reyderosquillas said:
I'm going back to iPhone as soon as someone trades me back on CL
What I've had from start to finish? Tilt, Touch Pro 2, G1, BB 8120, BB FLIP, G1, 3GS, Vibrant, EVO, Hero, Epic, EVO, Nexus S, the sprint WP7 can't recall name, EVO, Epic, EVO, EVO3D, 4S Sprint, 4S AT&T, Note AT&T.
I am the most unbiased person possible.
I switched from the iPhone back to Android because the screen was annoying for Draw Something, the edges on the phone are somewhat sharp & annoyed me in long typing sessions, no LTE.
What I've experienced on the Note, & why I said when I went back to the iPhone after the EVO3D that I would never go back to Android: LAG.
What good is customization if everything lags. What's the point of customization anyway? It's not like a computer that has incredible battery life & the customization is actually useful. It's just pretty widgets & UI mods.
I'm also shocked at how many ads are in the free apps compared to years ago.
Anyway, I'll go back to my sound app ecosystem with no lag. On top of that, the apps seem to run a lot smoother & take advantage of the A5 dual core vs the dual core in the Note.
+ I've spent way too much $$ on apps for iOS LOL. Sure I could get some for free on Android, but some simply aren't avail. Some I would have to buy again. Unfortunately, they all run better on iOS.
I will miss the s pen functions (and the Sammy cameras always seem better - I am disappointed by the 4S camera), but I'll survive. The only Android I want is the ASUS Padphone or an ASUS tablet (I had the Transformer #1 for a month, oh & of course I've had an iPad in the past, but prefer the Android tablet OS)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting observations. Honestly I see my Ipod lag a whole lot more than my note (or even my streak) with much much fewer apps. I mean I use my ipod for pandora, email and rage comics and running all three at once it lags something fierce. I can do all that with my note plus play temple run and not see a stutter. As for the in app adverts, apple is just as bad, but the funnier thing is, the ration of paid vs free apps in IOS is a lot higher in favor of paid apps than in android, which is probably why you see fewer ads in IOS. One thing I noticed with IOS is most apps, especially the free ones, rarely have over 3 stars, makes me wonder if they're really worth the time... All I know is, between IOS and android, I prefer android hands down, I can customize my UI how I want to, I can have widgets if I'd like and do virtually whatever I want with it. if you want I can talk with my buddy to see if he'll trade his 4S strait across for your note.
hi all,
just wondering what you guys make of your xperia s's?
i've had an htc wildfire s for around 8-9 months now i guess and i absolutely hate it.
it;'s slow, it has no memory, crashes all the time and is generally a terrible piece of technology.
thinking of getting myself an xperia s because i can't really justify spending £500 on an iphone ha ha.
how do you guys find your phone in terms of reliability/stability? how's the battery life?
are there any drawbacks or issues you have noticed? what other benefits does it offer other than being a hell of a lot faster and prettier than my htc?
i've read something about it having psn store? how does that work?
sorry for the total lack of orgranisation in this post, i'm just eager to learn
phone is wonderfull, i would never change it.
But i give it 8 of 10, cuz had problem with yellow tint on display, and some others...
battery life is quitly good.
Battery life is not so good, how long should I charge the phone?
Sent from my LT26i using XDA
Very nice, good battery life if you don't overload it, the software is really good.
Sent from my EPAD using Tapatalk 2
cool, thanks for the input guys.
yellow tint though? maybe a faulty unit? or is this a common issue?
i'm thinking of going for this over the iphone now because it has
-twice the battery
-twice the processing speed
-twice the storage
-12mp camera
-psn store
-around 2/3 the cost (have seen in online for £360, vs apple's £500).
just not sure because i really like the iOS5 and the general smoothness of the iPhones....but this xperia does seem to blow it out of the water on every level ha ha.
Reserved for tonight
Verstuurd van mijn LT26i met Tapatalk
The delay of ICS has seen me lusting after the One X and, more recently, the S III BUT they are considerably more expensive and actually similar in spec anyway.
I think once ICS arrives, I'll fall back in love with this. The screen blows everything (those two included) away!
Gloris said:
cool, thanks for the input guys.
yellow tint though? maybe a faulty unit? or is this a common issue?
i'm thinking of going for this over the iphone now because it has
-twice the battery
-twice the processing speed
-twice the storage
-12mp camera
-psn store
-around 2/3 the cost (have seen in online for £360, vs apple's £500).
just not sure because i really like the iOS5 and the general smoothness of the iPhones....but this xperia does seem to blow it out of the water on every level ha ha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The most recent devices haven't got this issue anymore, but you don't have much control over how new a device you'll receive and there are reports of it disappearing over time anyway.
I ordered mine from 3 (UK) the same night my girlfriend ordered hers directly from Sony, and I got a newer model which doesn't show any sign of a tint (w19) compared to hers (w13), and I had .73 firmware compared to her .67.
Having said that, she's not a gamer or anything and just uses the phone for calls, texts, facebook etc and hasn't noticed any tint either (often contributed to high phone temperatures). I think by the sounds of it, and there's no offense intended here, but coming from a Wildfire, I wouldn't expect you to be a massively heavy user and an Xperia S would be fine for you.
The screen is absolutely fantastic and is easily comparable to, if not better than the iPhone retina. I don't think you'll regret getting one in the slightest.
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
one thing i did notice was the lack of the psn store on the display model....it had the playstation app where you can view playstation news and blogs etc, but the store didn't seem to be there....
this was one of the main reasons i was thinking of going for this phone specifically....is there any reason why it was missing? is it because i'm in the uk? :S
hopefully it's just soemthing that comes with an update or something?
Gloris said:
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
one thing i did notice was the lack of the psn store on the display model....it had the playstation app where you can view playstation news and blogs etc, but the store didn't seem to be there....
this was one of the main reasons i was thinking of going for this phone specifically....is there any reason why it was missing? is it because i'm in the uk? :S
hopefully it's just soemthing that comes with an update or something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The PSN store is quite useless really. Any decent emulator blows it out of the water.
yeah, but i don't plan on rooting or any of that jazz with this phone :s
and i have a fair ammount of psone games already on my psn account
am i right in thinking it is definitely available in the uk though? just wondering why it wasn't there on the display model in store :s
Gloris said:
yeah, but i don't plan on rooting or any of that jazz with this phone :s
and i have a fair ammount of psone games already on my psn account
am i right in thinking it is definitely available in the uk though? just wondering why it wasn't there on the display model in store :s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PS1 games you bought for the PS3 won't be playable on the phone.
Sent from my EPAD using Tapatalk 2
K900 said:
PS1 games you bought for the PS3 won't be playable on the phone.
Sent from my EPAD using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:O???
then what's the point of linking your psn account? lol
hmmm
Gloris said:
:O???
then what's the point of linking your psn account? lol
hmmm
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For now, you can buy other games. I think they're working on that, just not quite there yet.
Sent from my EPAD using Tapatalk 2
ah, cool. long as they are doing something about it :s it's one of the major selling points in my view :s
i mean £3.99 isn't exactly a bad price for some classic games, but i don't see the point in buying them again if i've already bought them on the ps store before :s ha ha.
i might just go ahead and order this tomorrow (my sisters friend is selling her iphone 4 [not 4s] so i'm borrowing it for tonight to see what i think....but i'm more likely to go for the xperia s i think.....it's just an amazing looking phone
Gloris said:
nice one, yeah, i've been reading a bit more about this phone, and a lot of people say that the yellow tint thing goes away after time (and that many other smartphones, including iphone, are subject to similar problems anyway).
yeah, coming from the wildfire s, i just basically want a phone that WORKS
went down to carphone warehouse today to have a little play around on one, and i was pretty impressed, it all seems pretty smooth and fast (and that was on an old software version i believe, since it's just a display model, which they won't bother keep updating it all the time).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When I went into o2 at Westfield Statford to test the Xperia S I was a little bit bummed by the overall smoothness of it due to some minor lag etc but when I checked it's running time it had been on for over 500 hours (3 weeks) and of course every tom **** and harry been experimenting on it.
When I got my own XS the experience was 10x better so if you liked the display model you should like it even more when you own one
yeah i'm going to order this tomorrow, if i get it form argos i get 7 months to pay it off (and if i use my dad's discount it puts it down to £360, same as play.com and amazon).
i've just read also that these phones come pre-fitted with a screen protector
is this correct (especially for uk peeps)?
if so, that's genius, because applying those things are near to impossible without getting bubbles etc.
does anyone use another screen protector on top? or is it best to use the pre-fitted one until it gets scratched/damaged.
i was going to go carphone warehouse and get their pro-fitting/lifetime warrenty, but if it comes pre-fitted i needn't bother until it gets damaged?
yes, it indeed comes prefitted with a screen protector so just use it as is, it's great
(and they also included an extra one in the box too!!)
battery life is pretty good, and should be better once Ice Cream Sandwich releases (soon), so the only thing i've done is switch auto-sync off, mobile network as 2G and screen brightness to about one-third
the (built in) Power Saver app, timed saver modes also help (I set it to switch wi-fi, 3g, bluetooth, nfc, screen brightness etc to off or low between 1am and 7am for example)
as for PlayStation certification:
you get a link 'Let's start PS Store' to instructions
where you can download PS Store
so I don't know whether it connects with PlayStation Network PSN ID (haven't tried yet!!)
but the forthcoming PlayStation Mobile might be what PlayStation certified devices have access to
I've used Xperia S for about one month.
I feel Xperia S with DooMKernel & Xperia SSpeed ROM is SO GOOD!!!!!
I can use Xperia S all day long without charging.
Hi Gloris,
Forget about PSN and go ahead and buy this phone, for me it's the best smartphone ever exists since now, and it will be better after some weeks with android ICS ; I was using the iphone's model since many years, after buying the 4s, I was very disappointed! it's a jock, it's maybe useful for the paraplegic persons, but how really needs to speak to his phone! which asks you to repeat many times .... well, I sold my Iphone 4s after 2 weeks of use, and I bought an HTC sensation XE and I updated to ICS 4.0.3, I was very impressed by this OS, it's excellent, no more syc with itunes, you have just to copy and paste what you need in your phone via USB cable, (music, pics, files, apps, games ...), but I was still disappointed about the hardware of this HTC, so I bought my xperia S since one month, version 67 with no yellow screen issue, and now I'm really satisfied and it will be better after the release of ISC .... the camera is just wonderful, the screen excellent, 1.5 ghz processor, 1 go RAM, 32 Go HDD, sound Sony! I’m using it with a beats audio headphone, it’s a crazy …. You can pay movies full HD 1080p and link you phone to the TV via HDMI cable …. No seriously, stop asking questions and go buy it ….
soo