Hi, I'm asking for some opinions from Optimus One owners, please.
A friend of mine is looking to get a new phone on contract (UK), around the £15/20mth mark. I'm an old hand with Android (although mostly HTC handsets) and therefore his first port of call for advice. I am however a bit strapped for time at the moment, and can't scour all the forums for the info I need to make my recommendations.
I'm pretty sure that I'll tell him to get a Motorola Defy or an LG Optimus One.
Looking at the specs it seems like the Defy is the winner on pretty much all counts, although it is £5 a month more expensive:
Screen: Defy 3.7" 480x854 Optimus 3.2" 320x480
RAM: Both 512MB
ROM: Defy 1.9GB Optimus 512MB
Battery: Defy 1540mAh Optimus 1500mAh
Camera: Defy 5MP Optimus 3.1MP
So, what is the problem I hear you cry? Well, as we all know, hardware specs don't tell the whole story. From the little I've read about the LG software, it's pretty close to vanilla Android - and it's 2.2 as well. The Defy has the overhead of Motoblur and is running on 2.1. And we all know how Motorola treats updates on Android. I also believe that LG has committed to delivering Gingerbread as well? That's a major plus, since the Defy will NEVER see that.
What I want to know is this: what is the Optimus One like on a day to day basis, with the stock UK ROM? My friend will not want to root (or have me do it for him) - he just wants a phone that works out of the box.
Also, any other relevant info you think I ought to know would be greatly appreciated, ie. known faults, bugs etc.
Thanks!
Definetly DEFY ! Trust me, the dev community on that phone is going to grow. The phone is awsome. Same GPU as Galaxy S, TI OMAP processor, Gorilla Glass Display, what could you ask for more ?
P.S: Defy has official 2.2.1.
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Definetly DEFY ! Trust me, the dev community on that phone is going to grow. The phone is awsome. Same GPU as Galaxy S, TI OMAP processor, Gorilla Glass Display, what could you ask for more ?
P.S: Defy has official 2.2.1.
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Ha ha, I've posted this question in the Defy forums as well as here - hoping to get a balanced view by comparing answers from owners of both. Little did I suspect I'd get told here to recommend the Motorola handset!
I would go for the DEFY too.
It also has a 800MHz CPU (200MHz might not seem that big of a difference but it still counts imo) and Flash Lite support.
Both phone are value for money, but Defy offers a lot more.
It has Full Flash support.
OK, then I guess the decision is made (from my point of view), although there is the possibility my friend will still want to go for the Optimus One no matter what I say - it is slimmer and has buttons which he may like over the Defy's capacitive ones. Does the Optimus have any known faults or problems?
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Both phone are value for money, but Defy offers a lot more.
It has Full Flash support.
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Once Defy is rooted...what android version can we have on it???? Does it have a gingerbread port for it???
Yeah. You must root it and add custom recovery in order to apply the patch for touch screen lag bug. When you touch the screen, the CPU goes up to 100%. The patch solves it !
Isn't that awkward, we all advice you to go for the Motorola Defy, and we all are from Romania... do I sense a little bit of regret that we went for the Optimus as Defy wasn't available yet?
OK, so I never held a Defy in my hand and I don't know anything about it, but the hardware specs alone would have convinced me to buy it over the Optimus. Now, concerning your question: LG Optimus One will feel a little bit sluggish on stock ROM. Buggy touchscreen driver makes CPU spike to 100% while touching the screen (corrected with custom kernel). Dust gets under the screen if the phone is carried in pocket. Camera is not outstanding, although rich in features. Not having any source of light such as LED flash lowers even more the quality of pictures taken inside or in poor light. These are the cons, from my personal experience.
The pros, now. Good all-round phone for its price. Decent battery life (I can go 2 days between charges). Sports Froyo, update to Gingerbread officially announced. Decent performance out of the box, outstanding performance with a custom ROM, a little bit of overclocking and improved touchscreen driver. Good overall radio behavior (WiFi, cell signal and GPS).
That's what I gathered in 2 months+ of daily use, I hope it's useful.
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Isn't that awkward, we all advice you to go for the Motorola Defy, and we all are from Romania... do I sense a little bit of regret that we went for the Optimus as Defy wasn't available yet?
OK, so I never held a Defy in my hand and I don't know anything about it, but the hardware specs alone would have convinced me to buy it over the Optimus. Now, concerning your question: LG Optimus One will feel a little bit sluggish on stock ROM. Buggy touchscreen driver makes CPU spike to 100% while touching the screen (corrected with custom kernel). Dust gets under the screen if the phone is carried in pocket. Camera is not outstanding, although rich in features. Not having any source of light such as LED flash lowers even more the quality of pictures taken inside or in poor light. These are the cons, from my personal experience.
The pros, now. Good all-round phone for its price. Decent battery life (I can go 2 days between charges). Sports Froyo, update to Gingerbread officially announced. Decent performance out of the box, outstanding performance with a custom ROM, a little bit of overclocking and improved touchscreen driver. Good overall radio behavior (WiFi, cell signal and GPS).
That's what I gathered in 2 months+ of daily use, I hope it's useful.
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Yes, very useful. Thanks very much
if i were in your shoes i wud check out the possibilities both Defy and O1 offer when rooted...Honestly one of the biggest reasons to buy Androids over iphone is the ability to tinker with it....GO ahead find what the dev forums have to offer for both the models..
I have been happy with the phone running the devoid ROM.
However the lack of Flash 10.1 support on the Optimus is very disappointing.
In the American used market (eBay, craigslist, etc) the Defy goes for about 2x what the Optimus does. ~ $300 vs $150. I do not know if that means the Defy is significantly better or overpriced.
In India defy comes for $388 outright price and optimus one for $255. Hence the difference in more features.
But now new galaxy i9003 has arrived and is much better choice over defy. Outright price is about $410 .
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How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
It's my first LG and Android phone, but I was very surprised with it. So far I've heard only bad things about LG phones, but this one definitely changed my perspective. It's quick, responsive even on stock ROM (sooo much of a difference between WM and Android). Except the sometimes-annoying SD Card-reboot bug it is hell of a good device.. I hope they will upgrade it to Gingerbread
same here!
Honestly, I kinda feel the phone (P500) was rushed. Other than that, everything feels the way it's supposed to be (even better) for a budget phone.
LG in general:
I still can't say much about it, since this is my first Android / LG phone. When I get Gingerbread, maybe I can say some stuff.
Also, you have to note that even if a company has good software support, especially with the firmwares, it's always the flagship phones that get most of the attention. Sometimes the others just...get forgotten.
This is just my opinion from my experience with my older phone Promised an update, never got them.
I picked up an Optimus T in Seattle for $150.00 US used (like new condition) and moving from a MT3G Fender to this was like night and day. I paid the same for the MyTouch and the Optimus has a much better CPU/GPU, build quality, feels nice in the hand, better dimensions (thinner, yet same size screen and larger battery), nice screen for its size, etc.
I've taken the time to root, install custom ROM(JoeMom ROM) and overclock from 600MHz to 724MHz and everything seems fine.
If I had one gripe it would be the plastic that is used on the screen and the 'rubber-ish' non slip coating on the phone. It is much "softer" than the MT3G. My first day I put a "ding" in the non-slip coat near the top and a very fine scratch on the screen. I know there are screen protectors and cases but it was in the first 4 hours that this happened and I am not rough on my gadgets. If you plan on picking up one of these "value" devices I would suggest a case and screen protector at time of purchase.
LG's support site and forum are strait forward. It's easy to find the USB Windows drivers for those who need it. They seem to be ahead on the communication bit saying they're going for Gingerbread on the Optimus line. Most manufacturers are playing the silent treatment on which of their already released devices are going to be upgraded.
I once wrote an e-mail to the customer support. One week later I got a reply (cited from memory): "Dear Mr. [correct name], Due to technical problems, we were not able to read your e-mail. Please write again if you have some time to spare." Would you trust an IT company that either can't get its contact forms right or that doesn't want to reply to customer queries?
Very good until now. I do own several LG products and all of them are working very well. At least here, they also have a "help-line telephone service" for some products to help on "how to" do something (washing machine).
The Optimus One is my first LG brand and seems very good. It feels solid and not "cheap". Working very well.
It is an awesome phone.
Reasons:
1) I checked sony experia mini running on 2.1... Total waste of money..
2) rightly bundled specs..
and many more.....
Only missing thing (As per my need)
front facing camera for video calls.
Divr said:
How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
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Dude Honestly plz dont go for it instead u can go for any HTC android or nokia c7 coz the reasons are here
1) No flash 10.1 support though it states on phone pack that it has 10.1 flash support so LG is not honest in this the reason is the processor Arm V6 as flash adobe doesnt support ARMv6 processors but LG created a deception
2) I rooted my LG phone and phone went dead within 3weeks so i got a replacement though but after waiting 5 long days and fighting with LG area manager about this
3) everything else is good but not excellent
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How's lg in general? How's the customer service? And software support? And how's the hackbility? I'm recommending my friend to get optimus 2x when it came out but I at least to know these things.
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LG O1 was my first LG Android fone ... got fed up wid my iphone 2g's pathetic battery and nokia 5800xm's general useability .. The points I am mentioning is wrt to O1 (bought in India):
1. Build quality : Good (better than what I was hoping for)
2. Retail Box and accessories: Sufficient (except for the user manual which was pathetic)
3. Customer Service: Surprisingly prompt (but to be honest, I just had a question if my fone came with insurance as there was something mentioned in the retail package)
4. Overall: Better than what I have hoped for from LG as their mobiles fones have never been upto the mark
LG is generally ok for the most part. This is my first smartphone and the only problems I had with the O1 are those that i created on my own (trying to apps2sd on a slow memory card and panic-resetting which broke a few features). The LG service center was able to fix my phone after a week. Had to go back there multiple times though.
After installing the void ROM and custom recovery, I haven't had problems since. Battery gets me through most of my day with some gaming and music (I always bring my charger though...)
I'll have to test its bluetooth compatibility with a new headset since my old Nokia BH-104 doesnt work with it (even though they say it can...)
I guess the only we don't know yet is how competent they are with updates and bugs. But build quality is great! And the tweaks to android are minimal. Closest to stock experience I would say
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just dont post negative as u end up bricking your phone due to some reason
As for me i would rate it 3.5/5 obviously we cant compare it with higher end phones but a phone in that budget is just excellent. NOKIA sucks with symbian.
phone make 4/5
resloution 3.5/5 (at this moment lot to come in future)
tweaking 4.5/5 (huge cappabilities)
official gingerbread support (on its way) whereas mik's rom rock still
good customer support,prompt service
great gaming capabilities (except few game dont run-playing angry birds,nfs shift,pes 2011 ,dark ninza,home run battle 3d-3d gaming supoort is good)
very much customizeble.
ALL IN ALL EXCELLENT IN THE BUDGET CRITERIA
P500 is a great phone for the price. I had owned a HTC TyTn II and been using Wm6.5 and Android 2.3 on it.
LG customer care replied the day after i emailed them, and called me the next day. SO i geuss customer support is decent.
I hv used (not owned) HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy Fit and Pop and Ace and Galaxy 3 before, they were all not worth the price. whats the use of a higher resolution camera when the device screen itself is such a low resolution? QVGA on a 3.2" screen is not pretty. (except Samsung Galaxy Ace which is same resolution as 01 if im not mistaken) Galaxy 3 with 667 mhz cpu was not able to run angry birds properly. its very smooth on 01 void #echo rom.
Only things im missing in 01 is a LED flash, dedicated camera button and trackball, better camera would have been a plus.
But i dont regret buying it, and i can laugh at my friends 20k+ Nokia phones.
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It's a good phone if you don't have the SD unmount bug or you can fix it. I wouldn't recommend it unless there is a recent firmware in your country that fixes the issue (there isn't in mine), or you are willing to take all the steps to install a custom rom that fixes the issue. This was the only way I could fix the issue in my phone, because LG customer service said the phone was OK and didn't solve anything.
As many comments above, Optimus One was my first smart phone.
I have some hands-on experience with these droid, such as Desire HD, Galaxy Ace, X10, X8, Wildfire, X10 Mini. Well, with my experience on them and comparing them to my phone, i this the O1 is the best of the range. Some claims that Galaxy Ace is better for now but i still think O1 is better, as it is more capable to customize it.
O1 is great for everything except for the part that it doesnt have a camera flash. I really really wish i have one on mine phone, but who cares about that? I seldom use a camera flash as a flash light, but more as a torch light. XD
Talking bout LG, they have a great customer service. I had emailed to them before, and their reply were really quick! While Sony doesn't reply me at all...
i agrree O1 is more customizable than Galaxy Ace, community support is also better. I chose to buy the 01 and didnt have any regrets till now, and gingerbread is coming soon.
and i never had the SD unmount problem from the start even while i was using stock rom
anyways, this is my first LG phone, but its great
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i agrree O1 is more customizable than Galaxy Ace, community support is also better. I chose to buy the 01 and didnt have any regrets till now, and gingerbread is coming soon.
and i never had the SD unmount problem from the start even while i was using stock rom
anyways, this is my first LG phone, but its great
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Exactly what i was thinking. And regarding the SD unmount problem,it doesnt happen on mine too, maybe i was using a correct card =/
i think optimus one is one of the best midrange devices available.its well worth the price.the 1500MAh battery that it carries is one of the biggest in android phones.
specs wise it can be compared to galaxy ace but O1 is a lot cheaper.and its 512 mb ram is a huge +point. Lg has promised a gingerbread update on it. on the other hand ,there's no word from samsung abt updating the ace to gingerbread. they havent even provided the froyo update for most of its eclair phones except the galaxy s and the galaxy 3.so u cant trust samsung abt updating the devices .
Ordered Lg Optimus One (P500) yesterday on letsbuy.com for 8712 Rupees (LOWEST COST of this phone in India i believe).!!
Waiting for it to arrive ..
i was willing to buy the Atrix 4g for its dualcore beast and right now we hav 3 of that kind. Can anybody suggest the best one out of the Three???
SGS 2. 'nuff said.
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for $800 it better wipe your a$$.
-i have heard disappointing reviews on the camera, wifi, touchwiz, build quality, samsung updates(though motorola is bad with bell users).
-i wouldnt buy an LG as they have no solid track record and too many complaints to list
-atrix has its fair share of problems primarily the bootloader and camera isnt the greatest.
Anyone else kinda disappointed by this new generation of dual cores as a whole?
Nope i love my sg2 much more than my atrix!
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if i could atleast have it in my hand and it was $150 or more less I would definitely consider it.
Having both devices, what are the benefits of sgs2? Be as unbiased as possible please.
where did u buy the S2?
People harp on about the SG2 being all plasticy, but compared to the atrix it feels much more solid. the case shell on the atrix creaks whenever i hold it, whether that be age 'wear and tear' or what not.
i find the camera to be much better than the atrix
the screen is much better on the SG2 but thats personal choice
i do miss quirky features such as the fingerprint reader and webtop but thats about it. Everything else the SG2 does the same if not better. Even in stock form, no mods comparing the two it becomes much greater. as gingerblur fixed alot of problems (motoblur!)
saying that, the Atrix is still the 2nd best device i had!
my 2 cents
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where did u buy the S2?
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handtec, got it sent from UK to AUS in 4 days!
Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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Sorry. but f**k the Galaxy S II! The Galaxy S I9000 was soooooooo much better. From what ive heard, the Optimus 2X has really good build quality. But yeah they have a terrible track record, usually they make products with crappy quality. The Atrix is sweet but the locked bootloader and the fact that we have to wait for Motorola for updates; that drags it down.
1) Moto Atrix
2) LG Optimus 2X
3) Galaxy S II
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So guys....I just want a nice cellphone. I don't care for root and stuff. So, I guess the atrix will be fine for me right?
Do the G2x and S2 have been unlocked yet?
ty vm and sry about my english, Im trying to improve
If you want the best everyday phone I would buy the atrix battery last a day or more!
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LOL @ the guy who said the phone creaks in his hand. that is such utter LIES.
In any case, Samsung has a pretty horrible track record with the i9000 quality. Just look up i9000m internal SD on google and have fun sorting through that mess.. A phone that just auto nukes its internal SD whenever it wants.
As for the Atrix it has IMO an amazing screen (which you can use at full brightness) at little penatly on the giant battery.
If you wanna save battery and use juice defender the max I have gotten out of it before dying is 56 hours.... on a single charge.
So yeah.
Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
Things aren't perfect with the SG2 there's the:
1. Heat dissipation issues were people are already returning their phones just for that alone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068663
2. WiFi Issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067473
3. (Much More Than Normal) "Dead Pixel" Screens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065935
4. Lack of Notification LED - (most knew about this already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058596
I'm not going to say which phone is better since they All 3 phones have their issues, but it's also interesting to watch people dropping $750-$1000 already thinking the SG2 will be the perfect device. (yes there's no perfect device blah blah blah...)
Anywhoo... For the record, I'm not totally trilled with the Atrix at this moment either. I've also thought about switching to the SG2 already myself, but IMO it's too high of a price tag to give it a chance right now.
The bottom line, there really isn't really a clear cut winner...
hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it and am running gingerblur, im very happy with the phone, however the case really is squeaking (back when i was in the US i had another atrix4g which i went to replace cuz the fingerprint scanner locked up occasionally, that one had perfect build quality, this one just squeaks at the top, and she cover shell is somehow too big for it...) and the locked bootloader is really annoying me, the screen is very good in my opinion. If i would be buying one of the phones now i would go with the LG i think (my main reasons: tegra2, unlocked bootloader, proper support), as to the sgs2 its too big in my opinion (seriously hwo needs a 4.3" phone, even the 4" are too big kind of - id prefer a 3.8"/3.7" like the original htc desire, but noone makes high end phones with that screen size..). Cant say much more about the sgs2, as that it doesnt have tegra2 which i prefer over other dualcore ARM based chips right now. Atrix has way better hardware specs than the LG tho: more ram, more flash, better battery, webtop, fingerprint scanner - love that one lol, the only worser spec is the camera on the atrix. so go figure For stock use the Atrix would be the best ithink
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hmm i have an atrix 4g, simunlocked from att, i had issues with wifi in my country, now that i managed to fix it
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How did you manage to fix the wifi issues?
used other drivers for the wifi, the stock ones from motorola are missing my country ROFL, retards at moto. im trying to get a UK /system dump or at least the wifi drivers to test them out.
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Thanks for all the suggestion guys.. The Quadrant benchmarks of samsung galaxy sII ended up being something like around 3500 which is the heighest till date...atrix is around 2700 i guess...any comments on this fact??
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e-penis is big enough.
why not htc hd2 .......its the better device
just kiding xD...but I have one now , just sold my atrix, I will try lg and SGS2
IF you want test...why you don't bought 2 and return to the store the phone you don't like it
I see many opnions.....and many FANS off samsung, lg and motorola
soo, if you want the opinion...ask in xda general not in motorola session....
thats probably a very good idea. I love my atrix so im going to lean towards this phone.
General might be less bias.
im thinking about buying this phone, i dont want to spend alot of money on smartphone and the atrix is pretty cheap for what he gives.
the motorola atrix worth buying?
he have any common problems?
thanks
Mine was pretty cheap, I got it for my birthday in october. I love it. The only common problem would be random reboots/sleep of deaths. There have been some "fixes" that work for people if you look around, but there are a fair amount of users who have had random reboot issues or sleep of death issues, including me. But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
atrix 4g
For a cheap phone it is really good. My only complaint is the 5mp camera. To get its full potential you have to unlock the bootloader, root and install a custom rom. All the info can be found in the development section of this forum. Turls team cm7 is rock steady. I have just updated to jokersax11's cm9 and now the phone is awesome, the only thing missing is the camera does not work in this rom.
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Were having alpha ver. of IceCream Sandwich (CM9) ... there are better phones around atm but if you think Atrix fits you then I would say its not a bad choice.
You can still buy it because it is very nice.
I bought my atrix 2 weeks ago in germany and i can't complain. Ok actually the atrix wasn't my first choice but the price of the nexus s become very high in germany so i decided to get the atrix.
And it is still a very fast phone with a nice battery and the most important fact for me is that it only has a 4" display because I have small hands and a bigger display would be to big for me.
I am happy and i saved more than 100€ compared to other high end phones like the galaxy s II or galaxy nexus.
I vote to Buy.
If you plan on modding I'm sure your are.. Your here after all. I would buy one for 250 or less. I really like mine. There are so many roms to try now. It seems even though some phones are better this phone is really well supported by a big community. Breathing more life into a phone and taking it beyound its time. Im using the SuperOSr Rom and I really enjoy it tried maybe 6 or so others.
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Forgot to say the atrix has been a really reliable phone considering the amount if soft bricked it doing software flashes unsafely. I didn't know any better at the time. Not buggy like all my blackberries Ive had.
I think it is worth buying this phone, it's a lot cheaper then say a galaxy s2 and the galaxy is just a tad more powerfull, also there are some great custom roms and even a few (I think 3) ICS roms on the way!
Dont buy the atrix, buy a sensation a sgs2 or a o2x.
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Lol o2x is almost the same but less ram no webtop no finger print scanner and costs more.
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I am thinking about buying an Atrix and would like some input too.
Requirements are:
1. 4" Screen
2. Good battery life
3. ATT 3G Bands
4. Less that $400 on unlocked market
The phones I considered were the SE Arc, LG Optimus 2X, and Atrix 4G. Yes, I would love to own a Galaxy or Nexus phone but it is outside my price range. The Optimus 2X fell out because I cannot get it in ATT USA bands. So its the Arc vs the Atrix. Or did I miss another option?
yes - no problems
yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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yes, it's worth it. I've had no problems with mine, the build quality is excellent on my device.
The 5mg camera is the only marginally disappointing thing but that alone would not tempt me to swap it for a SGSII.
good luck
K
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How about the Atrix vs Nexus S?
Nexus S pluses: AMOLED, Better Camera, Better Battery life, NFC, Offical upgrade to ICS
Atrix pluses: Expandable Memory, HDMI, Faster CPU, FP Reader, 3.5G
Tough call.
You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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You'll get what you pay for, imo. Best way to compare real market value is check ebay (BNIB on auction).
I'm sure ill be on gingerbread when similar phones will be on some next version of ics, not to mention that I got gingerbread after 6 months of purchase. I will never buy motorola android phone again, but that is just my personal experience.
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I can't blame you either. I have always been a Motorola fan from the ROKR (not RAZR) line (anyone remember the Apple collaboration with Moto?) and I owned an E2. But I think it is poor on Motorola's part that the Defy is stuck on Froyo, while the pratically identical Defy+ got Gingerbread on launch. Motorola seems to be keeping certain brands going (Milestone/Droid, Defy, Atrix) so the should keep them updated as far as they can physically go.
Battery and ICS might sway me into getting the Nexus S but I do love the more powerful Atrix.
It's a great phone but the camera really kills it, other than that it's awesome.
I personally love my Atrix. The camera is a slight bit disappointing but it definitely makes it up with versatility and functionality. Just my opinion
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i choosed phone for about 1 year. because haven't more money, but i want a "power" phone, which can work for about 4 years without problem with hardware. i bought Atrix 4g. this is my first android phone, but it really nice for this price.
In the end of 2011 year i choose between atrix 4g, Defy+ and nexus prime. but nexus prime have bigger display, it is thinner than atrix, but have big price.
Defy+ is wonderfull, water resist, dust resist and any more... but haven't dual core, and only 512 ram.
resume (for me):
if i have more money i bought nexus prime, but i think that ideal phone can not cost more than $ 400 must have the hardware with a view of the future (1 year minimum). Should work just fine navigating large maps (map RUSSIA really great, and requires a lot of memory the laying of complex routes). Should be easily unlockable and be able to flash the android ICS (СM9 in my case). gave me a chance to practice in programming for Android.
Atrix gives me all these opportunities. Overclocking the CPU to 1.5GHz making foundation for the future, the performance he ahead of SGS2 and is not as great. Support for memory cards - I have no problems with the backup, you can always place another increase.
so that at the moment, I suggest taking Atrix 4g. But the choice is always yours.
SoupySauce said:
[...] But I've managed to fix mine so I love love love the Atrix.
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Wow! How can you fix your SoD problem in Atrix?
I tested a lot of radios, kernels and roms without sucess. Can you tell me?
Thanks
Other than having a slight less capable camera, I love the Atrix!
Something to also note (that I love) is that it has a qHD resolution 4" display, which means it's pixel density is much higher than most of the other Android phones.
KangPolice said:
never heard of SOD on atrix how are you getting one ... what are you using ?
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Do a little xda or google search to find a lot of SoD desperated users.
It's impossible to know what app (or kernel or rom etc) is the root cause, because many ones has many different configuration, use many differents apps etc.
My problem is more related to Data Connection, even 3G or Wifi. Every time I turn off a data connection my device get's SoD.
At now I'm testing LoadMonitor app as a SoD avoid app, and it make me happy. Let's do another test before advice them to other ones.
Thanks
So I am contemplating getting a new android phone because I can't stand the slow speeds and general lag of my ZTE blade anymore.
I want to buy offline, am in the UK and looking to spend around £220 tops.
I would ideally like it to ship with close to stock ICS and have a decent camera (doesn't need to be amazing) and obviously be ARMv7. The main thing for me is software, I want a smooth experience, with a solid android build.
I really want a Xiaomi Mi One, but they are simply impossible to get hold of outside China at a decent price.
Now heres the dilemma....theres a great offer on the HTC EVO 3D at UK store Asda at the moment for £207 all in. However I think it's ugly, 3D is a useless gimmick as far as i'm concerned and from what I hear it has terrible battery performance. I also hate Sense. However given the fact it has a QHD display, 1GB Ram and a dual core scorpion it is probably the best specd new android phone you can get for the price at the moment in the UK and there is a rumoured ICS upgrade.
The other option I had in mind was the Huawei honor which I could pick up for around £220 shipped from China. I like the styling, it has a huge battery and is shipping now with a close to stock good 4.0.3 build. However it only runs a single Core 1.4ghz Qualcomm scorpion and only has 512mb Ram.
I had considered the LG Optimus 2X but have heard only bad things. Xperia Play was an option too as I thought a game pad might be nice but again, hate the Sony skin and clean stock ICS is not an option. Nexus S would be great but they still cost £250+ and would ideally like expandable storage too.
I would like to run MIUI but can't be assed to mess around with all these half baked alpha/beta roms. Also a lot of the normal ICS builds I've seen about for the EVO look buggy.
Just want some reasonable hardware with a smooth ICS experience with as few bugs as possible and minimal hassle.
Any help in deciding or any other options I may have missed out on would be appreciated.....
I bought a Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman (WT19i) last week and am really happy with it.
I paid EUR150 in Ireland (Meteor) on a pre-paid plan and paid another $15 to get it sim unlocked and bootloader unlocked.
Audio is great. It has a single core scorpion that can easily be overclocked to 1.4 Ghz. The Adreno core runs surprisingly smooth. (Cant see a difference in performancy between my Galaxy Nexus and Live, although they do have different resolutions)
For the money this is the best low/midrange phone for sure will handle everything you throw at it really well.
Unlocking is a bit of a pain though (you have to peel off a sticker behind the battery to find test points and ground one of those points to unlock).
Currently running an alpha of MIUIv4 on it. It is very smooth but not yet feature complete.
Yeah, seen that, looks decent, was looking for something with a bit more screen real estate though, I found even the 3.5 inch on my ZTE blade a bit cramped.
Get a Rezound
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Too expensive i'm affraid
phones 4 u are doing a great deal on the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc £199.00 great phone big screen 1.4ghz chip and there phone comes unlocked as well
Ooo, thanks for that. Basically the same spac as the Honour with a better camera and larger screen although batter capacity is smaller (saying that Sony's power saving is probably better anyway). It also looks like Sony are cooking up a tasty little ICS rom as well which is supposed to be dropping end of this month. This could be the one...
strikerdj2011 said:
phones 4 u are doing a great deal on the Sony Ericsson Xperia arc £199.00 great phone big screen 1.4ghz chip and there phone comes unlocked as well
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My girlfriend has the arc and battery is much better than my lg with a really good camera. Only problem she found is after a month the screen came loose and literally hangs off but to be fair it was an O2 refurb.
Really nice phone and pretty snappy too.
Dave
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Yeah, i'm not wild about the styling but it appears to be nice and trim, and can't really go too wrong with a Sony Camera. The ICS beta is looking pretty tidy though...
http://youtu.be/qJbDl8aikUk
Galaxy Nexus, I have one and I love it.
Love to have one, unfortunately can only stretch to about £220.
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
satkan said:
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
nunjabusiness said:
Only if you want a terrific and fast phone that can handle just about anything you throw at it!
FYI, I use mine all day long, in the car dock for navigation and MP3 playing while driving, as an actual phone in my hand/pocket, and in the laptop dock when I need it and I have never run out of juice or had it overheat. I think those reports are VERY anecdotal or are from people abusing their phones.
Go ahead and get one, you will not be sorry.
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I must agree, it is a great piece of hardware, and software is up to you to choose. Great experience, great power. However one minor note here - you'd need to play with it, configure it and spend time with it - it is no iphone in my opinion, you'll need to MAKE it yours as you go. But it will pay off greatly. Honestly price-quality - on of the best on the market.
satkan said:
Hello folks, i'm a n00b.
I'm looking for a decent dual-cored smartphone,
and my eyes fell on the atrix 4g. (Do mind that in Europe you cannot buy the atrix2.)
Is this phone advisable to buy, or does it still have the issues of overheating / rebooting all the time?
And, should this phone be compared to the LG L7 P700 (which seems the only other option for the price), is it still a good buy?
In Europe these phones are priced roughly the same. (€300), [392.04 A. dollar]
Thanks in advance.
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Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
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Looking at the specs of the phone the LG doesn't match up to the Atrix with ram (512 compared to 1gb) and also internal memory is only 4GB on the LG compared to 16 GB .
The atrix has a bigger capaity battery but not by much.
The screen is larger on the LG (4.3) but I am not sure how the pixels ect compare (480 x 800 pixels, 4.3 inches (~217 ppi pixel density) compared to 540 x 960 pixels, 4.0 inches (~275 ppi pixel density) for atrix)
The LG will have ICS whereas Atrix has froyo (european is 2.3.4) but the atrix can be easily modded on here.
I've never owned an LG phone so I can't comment on build/durability but I have had my atrix for 8 months now and I've never had any of the issues you have mentioned and I can't recomend it enough.
I would think it's a choice between the 'new' LG or the older Atrix (not to confuse matters but you could always look at one of the 'new' motorola phones). Decisions Decisions!
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+1 on everything except that atrix will be receiving ICS official as well
It's a great phone but if you have large hands/fingers, this will feel like holding a toy. I'd get the SGS2 if I were you and you will be good to go for a long time.
I would have to agree with everyone in that this phone is still a very reasonable option without spending tons of money. The best option for purchasing would be through an online retailer as a few of the carriers have stopped selling it. Most respectable web stores (ie Amazon, wirefly, etc should still have a decent number in stock)
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I recommend it also got mine for £160 as a Grade B used device from CeX was cheaper with store credit only had scuffs on battery cover.
Worth every penny very powerful and decent battery life.
Atrix is well wourth money hasnt had overheating problem since about 3rd or 4th update its extreamily stable and is as awsome as everyone above is saying this phone will even handle a 1.6 oc and only reaches 50 ºC on the heavyest of games and note the LG androids have a nasty habbit that depending on model they start rebooting at random after 6months-a year most optimus are 6 months
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You'd be hard pressed to find something with an unlocked boot loader and the performance specs for the price of an Atrix 4G right now...
i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
I use a Samsung G S II Skyrocket now as my main phone.
I use the Atrix for my lapdock, mainly.
Atrix is still a great phone but it is harder to deal with (unlock), the touchscreen isn't as responsive as the Skyrocket and it is slower than the Sky.
Also, Motoblur is a pain...
There are some cool tools for the Sky; Darkside Superwipe, for example. And the screen on the Sky is really gorgeous. Originally, I was unhappy with the battery life but a quick root, debloat and a Faux kernel fixed all of that. And the Sky folks are playing around with a leaked ICS...
i would be planning to flash rom straight away so motorblur won't be an issue if it is easy enough to root
whitepandaaa said:
i have the same question, currently using desire z, very annoyed with the lag of ram which make it impossible to run many latest game, and how is this front camera perform?
im in the market for phone with at least 768 ram and ok front camera
and how easy to root this phone?
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
Once Updated...
I've had the atrix for almost a year now, (rooted with a new launcher) and I liked it during that whole time. However I recently took the plunge and flashed ICS/CM9 (Jokersax)... now I love the phone. It's fast, smooth, well organized, a pleasure to use all around - with CM9, I feel like Android has finally reached the point where it is both more customizable AND more elegant than the easy-to-use iPhone.
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its very simple to root this phone..just plug in, install drivers and run a program and it does everything for you..the front camera is good.. not great..but good for posing with the girlfriend or video chats..the back camera however takes great quality photos(if you want I can send you pics from either camera)
also, I've never experienced any lag while playing games on this phone(having played games like dead space and galaxy on fire 2, and fruit ninja HD)
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it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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whitepandaaa said:
it will be great if you can send pic from both camera so I can compare it, have not got avga camera to compare since it was no in the days of good old Sony Ericsson K700 does the front camera work with Skype?
I'm struggling to think that while this phone is may be worth it but quad core will be out soon
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okay, here you go, the first picture is the front facing camera, you can see its not wonderful quality but good for quick snapshots of yourself or you and whoever, and as good a quality for video calls as I've seen..the last two are from the back facing camera, and while it's not amazing, it's also no slouch either..
yeah I used skype once on it and it did work, but I mostly use gtalk and it works well..
of course if you have the time to wait for the quad phones to come out and the money to buy them, you might as well..this is a year old phone, which means it might be a little outdated, however its really excellent for the cheap price
edit: this is done without the MIUI camera, which takes better quality pictures, but doesn't allow you to take pictures through the front facing
The atriz has been out for about a year now so its gonna lose support after it gets ice. I'm having a boatload of problems. Wifi/Bluetooth is taken out and half of my screen isn't working. other then that its a pretty solid phone. When I close everything and have juice defender on extreme and screen off it dross about 2 percent per hour. It seems the Africa has its flaws like Bluetooth and the digitizer. I'm pretty sure that's why they released the affix 2 I think you should look into the newer phones. Then research what Rome they have and how strong the developing community is. The Africa for me is 7/10 just cause of the hardware problems. If it didn't it'd be 10. It can run with a tiny lag at 456 on neutrino Tom 2.6 which is incredible. But yeah. That's my take on the phone! Make sure the one you get has gorrila glass. The attic is a beast. I dropped it about 10 metres down the down the stairs on accident then fell another 5. Nothingbhappened to it haha. I heard the nexus has amazing battery life.
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Lol, Africa.
Wow, you must have typed that all on your phone. Rome? Tom? Affix? Attic?
Atrix hands down!!
I have bought an Atrix for 15 days now and the only thing that I can say about it is that I absolutely adore it.
Its not my first dual core Smartphone since I came from a broken Optimus 3D, which, for the record, was the worst buy ever.
The Atrix is ridiculously faster than the O3D, the 1gb of RAM on the atrix does a huge difference and is really necessary nowadays (O3D had 512mb and was always out of free RAM)
The battery in the Atrix is unbelievable. Till today Never ran out of it, and would run out of battery every single day with the O3D.
The Atrix is way more reliable than any LG phone, and I'm telling you, I worked there, I know what I'm saying.
Go with the Atrix, you will NOT be disappointed, trust me.