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Sorry if this has already been posted, but I searched for a few days and haven't found a solution.
I removed the HTC Sense UI and found it to make my Hero run much, much smoother. But, I am missing a few of the HTC Widgets. Namely, Music, Calender, and Twitter.
Is it possible to still use HTC widgets while keeping the simple Android UI? As I understand, I'm not removing the HTC Sense, only the makeover. I hoped it would still allow me to use the widgets.
Thank you.
The way I understand it, HTC Sense is a special program that serves as a base for interfacing the HTC widgets with the Android OS. Its not really a makeover, its a separate program. Android "Home", aHome, GDE, Open Gesture, and all other home replacements are actually apps that act as your home screen. Only the HTC Sense is compatible with the HTC Widgets, as far as I know. I could be wrong, however.
I don't think you can...
Have you updated your phone to the latest official ROM? I too had turned off the Sense UI for the speed advantage, but was missing alot of the Sense UI features. I upgraded the ROM (official) and it sure made the Sense UI very nice.
OrionSX said:
The way I understand it, HTC Sense is a special program that serves as a base for interfacing the HTC widgets with the Android OS. Its not really a makeover, its a separate program.
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Yes, and no! Unlike other home replacements, with HTC Sense, HTC have also modified parts of the base OS, so Sense goes quite deep. Whist you can effectively turn of the launcher part of Sense, and replace some of the HTC modified apps with their vanilla Android equivalent, some parts will still remain.
Regards,
Dave
Well, because disabling sense UI also disabled some features, that could be why I'm seeing such an improvement. I'm going back to Sense UI and tinker some more to see if I can find what causes the slight hiccups. The only widgets I use are HTC calender, music, and last.fm. Only two panels also.
One day I was listening to last.fm through my car stereo via Bluetooth. I then needed to make a call. I could not get the last.fm widget to pause at all. Then I figured I'd just make a call to possibly force it to pause. The buttons wouldn't respond. A few minutes later the music stopped and I could hear someone talking on the other end, but they couldn't hear me. I figured I just overloaded the Hero with what I can do on it.
I stopped having Bloo and Peep check for updates. I think that could be a problem, so when I want to see if I have any FB or Twitter updates, I just log into the apps myself. I'm also using Task Manager which is a lot better on the system compared to Taskiller.
Does anyone know of a vanilla Rom with the sense people?
or is there any way to port the sense people to vanilla roms?
there's an app for ADW launcher
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.mjdev.people
liljom said:
there's an app for ADW launcher
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.mjdev.people
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i meant the contacts, not the widget. the dialer and contacts which is call contacts on vanilla but people on sense. i do not like the layout of the contacts on vanilla.. is there anyway like import the sense people over or something?
These types of questions are asked so often....
the answer is no, definately not, never will, never can. You need all the htc frameworks for it to run, and to have those the rom needs to be sense based.
shinyfong said:
i meant the contacts, not the widget. the dialer and contacts which is call contacts on vanilla but people on sense. i do not like the layout of the contacts on vanilla.. is there anyway like import the sense people over or something?
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Try Dialer One from market or aTAKEphONE. Last is paid app and first is free. They have kind of sense-like-dialer suggesting names while typing numbers or t9 letters.
your only option is a sense rom that has had most of the other sense stuff ripped out of it.
like superhero 2 (by the villain team) or similar.
Couldn't you just use a sense rom and then use the default android home? That's give you the htc framework and the vanilla interface.
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the ones with much of the other sense stuff ripped out actually do perform faster than full sense roms just running a different launcher. it's strange, but true. It hink sense must run a bunch of background processes or something that aren't absolutely necessary for the most useful sense stuff to still be available (like the people app etc).
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the ones with much of the other sense stuff ripped out actually do perform faster than full sense roms just running a different launcher. it's strange, but true. It hink sense must run a bunch of background processes or something that aren't absolutely necessary for the most useful sense stuff to still be available (like the people app etc).
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how do we rip out such sense stuff?
and how so we change the colour of the dailer? and the contacts
Hello,
I have a question... i like the whole functionality of htc sense, however i do not like the htc s3nse look and here is my question is it possible to install sense's apks on for example lpp and edit their themes like colors transparency and font colors and sizes?
If it is posibble could someone post link to all sense's apk?
People, messages, call history, dialler, incoming/outgoing call screens, screenlock, music, radio, callendar, friendstream, news. I think these are all i need. I would like to theme them in more minimalistic way and keep the htc sense with fb syncin.
Cheers
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
You can simply use an alternate Launcher on the stock Sense ROM and get the benefits it offers, without affecting the functionality of Sense, AFAIK.
Simply changing the Home Launcher wont affect the underlying components.
If you want sense apps but with a different launcher then just use a hybrid rom best of both worlds
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Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
Hi,
I'm used using sense on android and winmo on a HTC.
when I compare it to Touchwiz, the samsung version feels odd, unlogical.
Personally I don't care a lot about Touchwiz.
Back to your questions:
Email client: (Gmail) it's almost the same
Facebook: I don't know i don't use it.
Twitter is the same too.
Calendar: I didn't like the one on Sense and I don't like the one on Touchwiz. I'm using Smooth calendar (free app)
draexler said:
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
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First you are just happy with your new girlfriend and don't even think bad of her if she does things you think is strange...
You accept a lot, and think you just need to adjust and that everything will work out in the end...
Don't misunderstand me now.... you still Love the looks on your girl, her beauty is stunning.... but do come to the conclusion that looks often isn't everything you need...
So.. when you recognize this sad fact you will quite fast think of solutions to reproduce your old girlfriends habits and ways of doing things you loved about her....
You would probably install a new launcher, Go SMS, Go Dialer, Go Contacts and other beautiful widgets....
And soon you realize.... Beauty and mind does exist in one package after all...
And you are in love yet again...
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Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've never cared for the Facebook for HTC add-on and Peep (Twitter add-on), so always used the official Facebook/Twitter app sync.. Touchwiz does have its SNS aggregation app which is similar to HTC for Facebook/Peep, but not using it either
Linking contacts is the same in the Touchwiz contacts app as it is in the HTC contacts app. Although Sense does auto-link contacts far more efficiently (always autolinks whatsapp contacts whereas I've had to do that manually in Touchwiz) and there are no notifications for suggested contact merges in Touchwiz.
The calendar is the same, doesn't look as nice but offers essentially the same functions
The email client is a bit better as it has multiple Exchange ActiveSync support with HTML rendering.. also allows split-view in landscape mode which is a nice touch.. although it is a bit of a battery hog.. have 3 accounts set up on push and it uses over 15% of my battery, used to use Seven on my HTC and would use under 5%.
Overall, I prefer Sense over Touchwiz
I used to own the HTC Desire. I like Touchwiz a lot. Personally, I think that sense looks a little tired now. Even their tablet looks like a bloated version of their existing phones. But then touchwiz is all new to me, and I love the SGS2, so maybe my judgment is clouded.
draexler said:
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I miss sense, it has so many little touches touchwiz (and 3rd party launchers/widgets) miss.
Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
draexler said:
Hey guys,
how does Samsung Touchwiz feel in the daily usage, assuming you come from HTC Sense?
I currently own a HTC Hero, and I need a new phone. How is the Facebook integration, calendar and email client?
Cheers, Martin
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I've come from an HTC Desire and for me, TouchWiz is a clear improvement over Sense in some ways, and needs a lot of work in others. It certainly feels faster, but that might just be down to the horsepower that the GSII has available. Also, you're not forced to have 7 home screens. I have 2 home screens with my essentials on them and nothing else. I guess I'm a minimalist
Facebook integration is decent, although the Contacts app isn't as good as Sense at auto-linking Facebook contacts to your existing contacts. Calendar is nice, although for some reason it can only pull in your events calendar from Facebook. As I recall, Sense was capable of pulling in events and birthdays. I don't use the built-in email app (I use the Gmail app instead).
Other niceties:
- Built-in MSN client
- Decent camera (far better than the Desire anyway)
Other niggles:
- The lock screen takes some getting used to. I ended up installing an alternative because I didn't like it.
- The apps list is more akin to how apps are ordered on the iPhone than on other Android devices: you have to manually order them rather than them being ordered alphabetically.
- The media scanner is unable to process the metadata in AAC/M4A files. They play just fine, but show up as "Unknown Artist" etc. in the music player.
All in all though, it's a brilliant phone. I was blown away by how fast it is coming from a Desire, so moving to it from a Hero will blow your socks off.
Don't care for it personally - feels clunky and outdated.
I went SPB first and now LauncherPro - much happier.
If I had been stuck with TouchWiz though it'd still have been an excellent phone...
I never cared for Sense on my HTC device when I used it, I flashed a stock CM7 based rom.
So the look was minimalistic.
The TouchWiz needs some work doing to it, for example (and I may have missed something here), the programs in "Applications" are added in the order installed. I prefer the A - Z scrolling icons (not the list you can get it TouchWiz).
LauncherPro for me any day, or GoLauncher maybe as a 2nd choice.
TouchWiz doesn't do it for me I'm afraid... The dialer is great, but I don't like the dock/app drawer at all.
It took me ages to get used to Launcher Pro after using sense, but now I cant use anything other than Launcher pro (with it set up the way I like).
CandyAndy said:
Coming from Sense first from TP2 and then from Desire there was quite big change.
But I didn't actually like Sense that much and used to use Go Launcher.
I am still using Touchwiz but there are some issues which are really annoying.
First of all the home screen is the most left one. That is so stupid. Probably the biggest issues with touchwiz.
Calendar app I think is better than with Sense. I actually uninstalled smooth calendar after finding this.
Also strange thing is that with Sense I could look my facebook pictures from the gallery application. Currently I cannot do it or then I just dont know how to do it. But that is a big downside.
After all touchwiz is not so bad as people are complaining. I dont miss the extra eye candy from Sense 3.0 and there are some good things with this UI. I would give it 7+
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You know a default.prop edit changes that to have the default screen wherever you want.
how do u do that pulser?
I went HTC Sense (On a Hero) to an iPhone 4 to SGS II.
Played on a DHD a lot whilst having an iPhone 4. I find Touchwiz 4.0 quite nice, very smooth and I prefer the browser to sense I have got used to the smoothness of the iPhone. Never liked the way the Sense browser scrolls and to be honest it's hardly changed since the Hero days, etc.
used a couple of htc devices with sense, the last one was a rooted desire with a combination of sense 2.1 and sense 3.0 and I must say that in terms of hardware samsung is ahead of any htc right now but touchwiz has nothing to do with the usability of htc sense
I don't like the calendar on SG2 (app and widget) and I need that, I don't like that SG2 social hub is not better integrated with contacts ... etc. I just love my new SG2 but I have to say it, HTC did a great job with sense
And one important thing - SG2 "smart" dialer is not so smart and some contacts I will only find if I make a search contacts, they will not appear if I type first few letters from the name .... and I hate that ... it was so easy on HTC to call someone when driving ....
I can't wait for a decent port of htc sense 3.0 on my SG2
until I will find it I have to remove touchwiz and buy spb shell 3d from the market
I came from DHD and Touch Pro 2, Tytn II with Sense.
Don't like the Touch Wiz/Samsung
-Keyboard (spezial characters on second page)
-E-Mail App (no multi Mail markers to delete at once)
-Music Player
-Facebook Integration
-Dialer
-Wheater
-no control over WLAN, GPS, 3G, Data Connection, Bluetooth, Thetering, Fly Mode and many more options etc. in one place
etc.
SGS II has a lot of power an could handle Sense easy, once it has been portet.
Sorry but TW is IMHO crap...
Would love to see a Sense Rom on SGS II
am i the only one that actually likes touchwiz??! I find it does everything really smoothly. Sense was overwhelming. It changed too many things! Once landscape is introduced for touchwiz il probably be using it by default.
Indeed, I love the TouchWiz interface and gladly choose it over sense. Since you can install a calendar widget on Samsung, but you can't get away from sense on a HTC. TouchWiz is really fast and don't change the Android experience in a bad way.
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I wasn't too fond of sense and ended up not using it in favor of adw although I occasionally went with GO and LP. Had them all on the phone. As already noted the default home screen can be moved in touchwiz, search for the thread and there are detailed instructions. Rooted users can also sort the app drawer alphabetically with an app called sort apps. It will come up in a market search for touch wiz. I am using touchwiz now but essentially with all the wiz removed. I dislike hubs as they are more bloat than benefit to me and have never used them. I love the little slider that lets you cross the home screens. Easier and quicker than pinching and done one handed instead of having to two hand to pinch or swipe all the way back and forth. I have been giving touchwiz a go for a while now. I also have LP and GO installed and I'm finding I like touchwiz once its been de wizzed. If it were customizable in being able to choose rows and columns and that sort of thing I would be happy with it.
TouchWiz has the option of getting everything in alphabetical order and in up/down list. You can move apps freely around the different pages in original mode if you wish too. I love it and the quick switches in the notification bar just makes it great.
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Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
No Sense to remove Sense?
There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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There is no rational reason to remove Sense, it won't speed your device or make it "snappier" because the Flyer has gobs of memory., if you want to use a different launcher, install what you wish and you can toggle back and forth at will. Sense has a few unique widgets like the email widget that you cannot find anywhere else at any price and of course the Pen functions if you use that.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
Removing Sense from an HTC device is like buying a Ferrari and saying, "I love this car, but I'm gonna trash the engine and install this motor my brother-in-law Billy built in his basement."
I use the stock launcher; I like the look and feel of it. Lee makes that available via a different file and it's just an app install. I do occassionally miss the Calendar and Mail widgets, but Jorte is a suitable repalcement for me and the Mail app pulls all my Mail account up properly.
JOLiu said:
Hi all,
Recently received my HTC Flyer in the mail, and the first thing I did was install LeeDroid Honeycomb (holding off on the ICS ROMs for now, as they are still working out some bugs/issues with the ROMS) . I see that you can download something to remove the HTC Sense UI on LeeDroid.
This is my first foray into HTC products, and I sort of like the way Sense looks (particularly the clock/weather widget). However, my suspicion is that the Flyer might run faster if I removed Sense altogether. Judging by the other threads on the Desire, Sensation and Shift forums, people do seem to think that Sense uses more resources, though some people do like the apps and widgets available.
For those of you on LeeDroid, did you opt to keep or remove Sense? Why did you make that decision? Were there any apps/widgets, etc. that are only available on Sense that convinced you to leave Sense on the Flyer?
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On my previous HTC device I never liked Sense except for the widgets. However, on the Flyer I am using it and rather enjoy it. My opinion would be to keep it on, use it for a while, try out the stock launcher provided as a comparison, and if for some reason you don't want it than there is always the option to remove. One of the things that does bug me about Sense compared to other custom launchers is no resize of widgets and no native folder support.