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Firstly, sorry for posting a noob like annoying thread like this but I wanted to get opinions.
I'm off to Download festival tomorrow! So I'm hoping to install a ROM which has a very good battery life, turn off syncing, mobile network and pretty much everything else and try and get a decent way through the weekend with my phone.
Any suggestions on which ROM I should rely on for this weekend?
I would test some out myself but I am leaving tomorrow morning I don't really have much time.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!
Vanillaeclair 3.3 RC3 for me miminum 2 days working )
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Vanillaeclair 3.3 RC3 for me miminum 2 days working )
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gotta agree vanillaeclair is one of the best ive used.. running for 8 hours today and only 2% down.. i know percentages are a bit deceptive im pretty shure it'll last me a few day.. although i dont use data, use wifi all the time
Put Juice Defender on too
Never used Juicedefender before, will it help at all if I just keep Wifi/Data/Sync off all the time anyway?
Just to support VanillaEclair 3.3
I've been running a hell of a lot of different rom's for months now and VanillaEclair has been fantastic for battery life since 3.0
Don't forget to install overclock widget so that you can underclock it when it's sleeping etc.
I also use 'Process Manager' which you can set to auto-kill background apps. Every little helps.
EDIT- oh, and keeping wifi/sync/data off will help a hell of a lot
Right I've gone with VanillaEclair then.
I've turned off syncing/mobile data/everything and I've used SetCPU to change max down to 518mhz.
I've never really been into using Task Killers so I am a bit concerned about using one. I already purchased Advanced Task Manager a while ago so I could use that. What kind of autokill frequency do you use and does it really make a difference? I see Task Killers as another thing running in the background..
Ok so i have 3 questions in 1 thread!
I have a X10 mini pro 2.1 (U20i):
1- Has anyone "currentwidget" working on this phone?!
I installed it and the widget shows always Error (i have root access).
Any help is appreciated!
2- How to maximize battery consumption!?! It's barely holding 15hrs of minimal use!!! Wiped the battstats and didn't have so much improvement!
Any help is appreciated!
3- I need arabic support for the phone! Does somebody have it working?!? Where can i find libs, frameworks...?!
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
WAW 50 views and still not one single reply!!!
You are very helpful here guys...
Life Engineer said:
WAW 50 views and still not one single reply!!!
You are very helpful here guys...
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Had you known that, you would have took the time to
(1) Check the wiki.
(2) Post one thread for every question you had.
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WAW 50 views and still not one single reply!!!
You are very helpful here guys...
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I'm guessing like the other 50+ viewers they didn't know what you were asking until they actually viewed your post. Consumption, Battery, Arabic doesn't give much away. For all we know, you could have been asking about memory usage, buying a new battery, and an arabic font pack!
Well not bad! I managed to get ur 2 replies guys!
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Had you known that, you would have took the time to
(1) Check the wiki.
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U r right about reading but i don't have so much time! But about a thread for every question, u r wrong! I did that to minimize threads, time, replies, space, human resources
Thanks man for the link
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I'm guessing like the other 50+ viewers they didn't know what you were asking until they actually viewed your post. Consumption, Battery, Arabic doesn't give much away. For all we know, you could have been asking about memory usage, buying a new battery, and an arabic font pack!
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Exactly! And do you think that among those 50+ viewers, there weren't anyone that know about any 1 issue from the 3 that i posted?!?!
Life Engineer said:
Ok so i have 3 questions in 1 thread!
I have a X10 mini pro 2.1 (U20i):
1- Has anyone "currentwidget" working on this phone?!
I installed it and the widget shows always Error (i have root access).
Any help is appreciated!
2- How to maximize battery consumption!?! It's barely holding 15hrs of minimal use!!! Wiped the battstats and didn't have so much improvement!
Any help is appreciated!
3- I need arabic support for the phone! Does somebody have it working?!? Where can i find libs, frameworks...?!
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
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Ok, this is the solution to about half of your problems .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#td_post_81
And let's see if I can answer those questions!
1. It does not work, at least the one in the market... It's for the nexus one, there is a ported version for the vibrant too, but I'm not sure if it will work either. Anyway, it's a bit of a stupid program, go buy System Panel.
2. It is more about running proceses than anything. Best app you could download to see what is running wildly, System Panel (and yes, pay for it), or just take some other task killer, like Advanced Task Killer, and see what runs without you wanting too. You should uninstall that crap. Start with Timescape. That app is truly pure crap.
Ah, also, put the widget Power Control (which come included) and try to keep everything deactivated as long as you can. Each of those things SWALLOW battery, more than eat. Put APNdroid, and keep internet deactivated too. Download Setcpu (it's free in this forum) and put the minimum Hz to 128 (the minimum you can put).
What else... eliminate all the SE **** you can and whenever you are not using the phone, kill all the running apps with Advanced Task Killer. Or you can use Autokiller, didn't work for me.
Put a battery percentage icon too. You will notice when something is eating your battery with it. If you don't want a theme, use Battery Indicator.
3. Sorry, don't know what the hell I could use that for. Open a thread for this.
EDIT: looked att your profiel, and man, you are no noob, why the hell are you asking how to improve your battery? It is a standard, androids consume if you let them, nothing else. If you really need battery, underclock it with setcpu and problem solved.
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Ok, this is the solution to about half of your problems .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#td_post_81
And let's see if I can answer those questions!
1. It does not work, at least the one in the market... It's for the nexus one, there is a ported version for the vibrant too, but I'm not sure if it will work either. Anyway, it's a bit of a stupid program, go buy System Panel.
2. It is more about running proceses than anything. Best app you could download to see what is running wildly, System Panel (and yes, pay for it), or just take some other task killer, like Advanced Task Killer, and see what runs without you wanting too. You should uninstall that crap. Start with Timescape. That app is truly pure crap.
Ah, also, put the widget Power Control (which come included) and try to keep everything deactivated as long as you can. Each of those things SWALLOW battery, more than eat. Put APNdroid, and keep internet deactivated too. Download Setcpu (it's free in this forum) and put the minimum Hz to 128 (the minimum you can put).
What else... eliminate all the SE **** you can and whenever you are not using the phone, kill all the running apps with Advanced Task Killer. Or you can use Autokiller, didn't work for me.
Put a battery percentage icon too. You will notice when something is eating your battery with it. If you don't want a theme, use Battery Indicator.
3. Sorry, don't know what the hell I could use that for. Open a thread for this.
EDIT: looked att your profiel, and man, you are no noob, why the hell are you asking how to improve your battery? It is a standard, androids consume if you let them, nothing else. If you really need battery, underclock it with setcpu and problem solved.
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First of all thanks for your reply!
About current consumption I'll try also "battery monitor widget" to see if it works!
Man i asked those bcz i'm not a perfect noob (we all are noobs at some point); i'm concentrating my efforts on my HD2 and i dont have so much time for this X10 minipro; so i asked bcz maybe there is some kind of a trick or a known bud/problem that may decrease battery consumption!
About downclocking, my own experience (and many others) shows that it doesn't affect battery much (barely 5 to 10% so it's not worth it) and besides it introduces instabilities so i prefer not to tweak anything about CPU.
However i thank for re-introducing the autokiller memory to my mind bcz i completely forgot it although i'm using it on my HD2!!! hahaha
Oh, no problem then, dude ^^ mm downclocking does work for me, i believe :/ anyway, the best memory optimizer is autokiller, trust me in that see you around!!
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To me the name this thread looked as if you´ve found a piece of software which solves these three problems.
Just to address your battery problem - no there is no solution unless you cut off data transmission or use GPRS instead of 3G. 15 hours is decent time.
Can´t say anything about Arabic, though.
vlissine said:
To me the name this thread looked as if you´ve found a piece of software which solves these three problems.
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Hehehehe this is called "Marketing"
Life Engineer said:
Hehehehe this is called "Marketing"
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This also means I will never open a thread which you started, mate. So it works only once.
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This also means I will never open a thread which you started, mate. So it works only once.
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hehe feel free to do what you want man!
But sometimes when you need answers you need good ways to ask the questions!
My battery lasted many hours longer after disabling data traffic. I only enable data traffic when needed then immediately disable it again. There's a built in widget to enable/disable data traffic.
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Ok so i have 3 questions in 1 thread!
I have a X10 mini pro 2.1 (U20i):
3- I need arabic support for the phone! Does somebody have it working?!? Where can i find libs, frameworks...?!
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks
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this worked for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869081
but it changes the original font to arial ( which is even better)
arabic letters are connected and works perfectly
good luck with it
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this worked for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869081
but it changes the original font to arial ( which is even better)
arabic letters are connected and works perfectly
good luck with it
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Thanks bro will try it!
I've been using all kinds of TeamWhiskey ROMs for a while now, as well as a few other Eclair ones a long time ago, and the built-in battery use monitor (the one in the settings menu) only shows Display, WiFi, System, and Cell idle. I remember actual apps being displayed there; what happened to that? I know there are other apps to do this (in fact I have one), but since this one is running all the time anyways, why not make it work? Anyone know a fix?
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thanks for a good question; i was wondering why as well.. im guessing it has something to do with how froyo handles system processes and other apps and such. but it's still not clear why it would only show just a few random internal processes. anyone?
I actually use "system panel" this will graph usage and a lot more. So if you are want to play battery techie, this is useful. Frankly, I have not had any problem with batter usage since the Froyo roms came out in Dec.
hi all,
yeah I've noticed the same thing. I'm currently on stock 2.2 and don't know why the battery use monitor isn't giving us any info about 3rd party apps. just system processes.
Even playing Angry birds or Gun Bros for an hour a piece with battery draining 15-20% still doesn't make it to the list.
very strange, I've also made a note of it on the T-mobile forums under 2.2 bugs.
Thanks oka for recommending "system panel" does it really provide a good amount of info?
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hi all,
yeah I've noticed the same thing. I'm currently on stock 2.2 and don't know why the battery use monitor isn't giving us any info about 3rd party apps. just system processes.
Even playing Angry birds or Gun Bros for an hour a piece with battery draining 15-20% still doesn't make it to the list.
very strange, I've also made a note of it on the T-mobile forums under 2.2 bugs.
Thanks oka for recommending "system panel" does it really provide a good amount of info?
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Yeah, it does. That's what I use if I really need to figure out what's killing my battery.
I called Verizon today regarding my battery life (at work which I started today I get sh*tty reception which kills my battery in 4 to 5 hours--usually last a full 12-14 hours pretty perfectly). The rep that I talked to quickly realized that I knew what I was talking about tech-wise and thankfully didn't treat me like an idiot.
She said something that got my attention though: she said HTC recently (as in the past few days) released something to Verizon reps saying that Task Killing apps actually interfere with the system and code in a way that drains battery *more* on the Thunderbolt than any other device thus far.
Anyone else heard of something like this or have a reason why it would do this?
*edit* I'm looking for like a dev answer to this... How it interferes with the system? I've seen the threads that explain how it messes with the Activity code but it seemed like it was more than that for the Thunderbolt.
Haven't gone a full day with ATK uninstalled but I'll try tomorrow and see how it goes.
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I called Verizon today regarding my battery life (at work which I started today I get sh*tty reception which kills my battery in 4 to 5 hours--usually last a full 12-14 hours pretty perfectly). The rep that I talked to quickly realized that I knew what I was talking about tech-wise and thankfully didn't treat me like an idiot.
She said something that got my attention though: she said HTC recently (as in the past few days) released something to Verizon reps saying that Task Killing apps actually interfere with the system and code in a way that drains battery *more* on the Thunderbolt than any other device thus far.
Anyone else heard of something like this or have a reason why it would do this?
*edit* I'm looking for like a dev answer to this... How it interferes with the system? I've seen the threads that explain how it messes with the Activity code but it seemed like it was more than that for the Thunderbolt.
Haven't gone a full day with ATK uninstalled but I'll try tomorrow and see how it goes.
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they told me the same thing but not about the battery drain, just that it screws with the system
but on other phones (droid 1) they highly recommend using task killers.
obviously two different phones/companies, but still you'd think they say dont use them for all phones, not just certain phones, because most people feel they are useless.
But it hasn't screwed up anything that i've noticed, and my battery has actually improved since day one, so i think it depends on your phone. And i dont think my improvement is from task killers, i'm rooted and i think custom kernels and roms have helped increased battery life.
Id say whatever works for you do it, and dont worry about the task killers ruining you phone, but if you find out they are then dont use them.
good luck
I would guess that they'd negatively impact performance. The only reason you'd need a task killer is if you were on a 1.5-6 device. In all later version, tasks are managed natively as part of the core os.
One problem is with people using them to auto-kill apps far too aggressively. If you're constantly killing apps that are constantly re-launching (such as clock/weather/SMS/MMS/news/widgets/etc that tend to stay resident), you're going to end up up using a lot more processor time, and thus battery life, than if you just let the apps sit idle.
I heard that its because Android 2.2+ automatically restarts apps that you close and then it uses more memory to restart each time it is killed. There is a built in task killer in the phone anyways. No need for a secondary killer. But from my personal experience: yes I got worse battery life with task killer than without it. Although on my Droid x it was the opposite. Must depend on the phone
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Trevlo said:
I heard that its because Android 2.2+ automatically restarts apps that you close and then it uses more memory to restart each time it is killed. There is a built in task killer in the phone anyways. No need for a secondary killer. But from my personal experience: yes I got worse battery life with task killer than without it. Although on my Droid x it was the opposite. Must depend on the phone
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Your explanation is off a bit but you get a C+ for the spirit of it.
In short, Android use your free memory to cache programs into using spare resources. ATK then removes these apps from this free memory, making it free again. Android then uses your free memory to cache programs. Then ATK. Then Android. Etc... See the problem? Slows down your system and wastes battery doing it. You are correct in that there is a built-in memory-freeing system that does this really when it's needed. There are ways to influence how aggressively it frees memory up.
The reason it helped with your Droid X was because of how pathetic Blur was. With custom roms that removed most of Blur, ATK hurt a lot there as well.
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Jaxidian said:
Your explanation is off a bit but you get a C+ for the spirit of it.
In short, Android use your free memory to cache programs into using spare resources. ATK then removes these apps from this free memory, making it free again. Android then uses your free memory to cache programs. Then ATK. Then Android. Etc... See the problem? Slows down your system and wastes battery doing it. You are correct in that there is a built-in memory-freeing system that does this really when it's needed. There are ways to influence how aggressively it frees memory up.
The reason it helped with your Droid X was because of how pathetic Blur was. With custom roms that removed most of Blur, ATK hurt a lot there as well.
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+1 thank you... didn't feel like explaining all that
one thing to add for all you wondering...ram will use the same amount of power whether it is full or empty so don't' worry about using up all your ram...the android os will kill off apps and caches as needed to keep you running fast and efficient. our batteries life sucks because we use our phones so much or because (like me) we run beta software with bugs.
i've tested numerous times and sitting idle overnight (about 8 hours) on 4g OR WIFI, i will lose between 4 and 6 percent.
Quit muddying up the dev section! This has nothing to do with DEV!
This should probably be in the general section, and yes active task killers will ruin your battery life, if you have it uninstall it. The only way you should ever force close running apps is with the app management built into the android system and thats only for rogue apps that never stop running.
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Your explanation is off a bit but you get a C+ for the spirit of it.
In short, Android use your free memory to cache programs into using spare resources. ATK then removes these apps from this free memory, making it free again. Android then uses your free memory to cache programs. Then ATK. Then Android. Etc... See the problem? Slows down your system and wastes battery doing it. You are correct in that there is a built-in memory-freeing system that does this really when it's needed. There are ways to influence how aggressively it frees memory up.
The reason it helped with your Droid X was because of how pathetic Blur was. With custom roms that removed most of Blur, ATK hurt a lot there as well.
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on droid x wit blur atk still hurt battery life. only worked on eclair.
One thing that I have encountered in supporting VZW technical issues, in addition to battery life, over-aggressive task killers, if not configured properly, can kill necessary apps. People call cause their alarm clock didn't go off, they didn't get text messages for 30 min to an hour, etc. Some of these programs *need* to run in the background.
Yeah from what I understand its not the phone but the os. On eclair task killers helped out . But froyo and gingerbread both take care of all of that in the back ground and using tk's affects the way the two os's are working. I was told all of this back on my Captivate and at the time I was hooked on task killers and Froyo leaks were just coming out. My batt life sucked and a dev some probably know , Designingears , explained all this to me and omg it was hard for me to take in and delete advanced task killer lol. But I did and have never looked back and it definitely improved my batt life. Now every now and then you just get a stubborn run away app that the os just can't stop, can't remember the app but theres a couple out there that take care of this and there not task killers. Me, I just reboot my phone every now and then and all is well .
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so from what I've learned being in the business for 6+ years. The task killers kill everything where android needs certain things to run so your system doesn't lag. That being said a lot of the manufacturer are including a task killer in there new roms to over come this issue. Example the new droid x 2 has a new task killer app. Motorola was the first to say to Verizon no task killing apps and now HTC follows. Wont surprise me with the gingerbread updates to android phones if you see more companies build task killers into their roms. I stopped using a task killer last week and battery life has increased. Just my thoughts and opinion.
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so from what I've learned being in the business for 6+ years. The task killers kill everything where android needs certain things to run so your system doesn't lag. That being said a lot of the manufacturer are including a task killer in there new roms to over come this issue. Example the new droid x 2 has a new task killer app. Motorola was the first to say to Verizon no task killing apps and now HTC follows. Wont surprise me with the gingerbread updates to android phones if you see more companies build task killers into their roms. I stopped using a task killer last week and battery life has increased. Just my thoughts and opinion.
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I second that. When I bought my Thunderbolt the clown at the store told me to put a task killer on it. I did that it killed the battery...On Perfect Strom 1.4 I am getting over 10 hours with out a task killer. Not scientific but I consider 10 hours good for battery life on this phone
Day 1 when I bought the TB a HTC rep was in the VZ store and he was saying same thing then about task killers worsening battery life and performance
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I would guess that they'd negatively impact performance. The only reason you'd need a task killer is if you were on a 1.5-6 device. In all later version, tasks are managed natively as part of the core os.
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exactly.. froyo and GB do the task management job well.. when I had my droid 1 running 2.0, i compared with and without a task killer, and battery life improved a little when I did use task killer. But then with froyo and above, it would actually make it worse to use one..
Me thinks that the phone processes is set up to where a simple task manger can kill them, thus messing with some essential processes. Which in turn, would make the phone have to use a little bit more juice to start the processes back up over and over.
Just my .02 o.o
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Atk initially "sounds" good because most of us use to windows OS. Atk would/could be of use if droids ran windows... Droid is based off Linux and if you read up on how Linux operates, there is no need to constantly kill apps when it doesn't draw on system performance while in the background. Where the problem is, is that some apps have permissions to chill in the background and by killing them and the system brings them back up, just to be killed again. Not gonna drag thus on because I'm typing on my phone, but atk's aren't necessary.
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So I followed the instructions in the v6 SuperCharger script thread and the phone is wicked fast now, virtually no lag whatsoever. But I have what appears to be a battery drain issue. Spare Parts and SystemPanel let me zero in on a process called "zygote" which was consuming 30% of the CPU even when the screen was off. I may try disabling the script to see what happens but I'd hate to go back to the stock laggy experience.
Does anyone know what zygote does or is for and why it would keep running continuously? Are the new memory values causing the phone to keep shifting around apps/processes to maintain the minimum free memory and this is using up CPU and therefore battery?
Eric
Which areas on the phone were you noticing considerable lag?
Did you also figure out what the process was and why it was taking up so many cycles?
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Which areas on the phone were you noticing considerable lag?
Did you also figure out what the process was and why it was taking up so many cycles?
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Are you asking me? The process is called "zygote" in SystemPanel. Under Spare Parts, Android System was shown as keeping the phone awake.
The original lag I was experiencing was within various apps and also ADW Launcher flipping between homescreens.
Eric
I was intrigued and googled it. The best answer I found without too much digging was here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/fa8a9e3f3b891b0d/44b3bb43d0aa783a
But by that explanation it doesnt seem like zygote should be using that much cpu. Perhaps this script changes its behavior?
Still surprised people do not have red flags for concern in regards to having to use this app in the first place. People are having to use an app designed for low memory devices (256mb) on a device with 512mb. gTablet has 512mb, Tegra 2, Froyo as well, but does NOT have these problems and performs much better (never thought I would say that, but the gtablet DOES perform MUCH better).
That said, if the mystery of the low ram issue, audio pops and random reboots are fixed in an update- the DX2 will be great (IMO). Had the DX2 for two weeks and wanted to keep it, but the issues mentioned were not worth messing with. Having the similar software and hardware on the gTablet gave me a source for comparing and realizing something is wrong with the DX2's firmware.
Not to hijack, but when you get to this part in the Tutorial, which setting should one choose for the x2?
"Touch the screen and tap the number 6, Balanced 3, the best choice for GT540, and hit ENTER .... The script will work .... after finished, touch the screen again and tap the number 16"
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Not to hijack, but when you get to this part in the Tutorial, which setting should one choose for the x2?
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"9 MegaMemory Device"
assuming you're using update2
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theguru1974 said:
So I followed the instructions in the v6 SuperCharger script thread and the phone is wicked fast now, virtually no lag whatsoever. But I have what appears to be a battery drain issue. Spare Parts and SystemPanel let me zero in on a process called "zygote" which was consuming 30% of the CPU even when the screen was off. I may try disabling the script to see what happens but I'd hate to go back to the stock laggy experience.
Does anyone know what zygote does or is for and why it would keep running continuously? Are the new memory values causing the phone to keep shifting around apps/processes to maintain the minimum free memory and this is using up CPU and therefore battery?
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Any resolution on this guru? I'm having the exact same issue.
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Still surprised people do not have red flags for concern in regards to having to use this app in the first place. People are having to use an app designed for low memory devices (256mb) on a device with 512mb. gTablet has 512mb, Tegra 2, Froyo as well, but does NOT have these problems and performs much better (never thought I would say that, but the gtablet DOES perform MUCH better).
That said, if the mystery of the low ram issue, audio pops and random reboots are fixed in an update- the DX2 will be great (IMO). Had the DX2 for two weeks and wanted to keep it, but the issues mentioned were not worth messing with. Having the similar software and hardware on the gTablet gave me a source for comparing and realizing something is wrong with the DX2's firmware.
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You're an idiot.
I've told you a few times already that the script fixes badly configured memory management no matter what the device.
The minfrees is a secondary to the primary function - fixing OOM groupings and priorities for optimal performance.
Is an app like AKMO or AMM only good for 256 mb devices?
No, they aren't. But all they do is change minfree values.
So don't be so stupid.
And for those that think it's causing battery drain, unsupercharge.
You will still have battery drain and the phone will be slower.
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You're an idiot.
I've told you a few times already that the script fixes badly configured memory management no matter what the device.
The minfrees is a secondary to the primary function - fixing OOM groupings and priorities for optimal performance.
Is an app like AKMO or AMM only good for 256 mb devices?
No, they aren't. But all they do is change minfree values.
So don't be so stupid.
And for those that think it's causing battery drain, unsupercharge.
You will still have battery drain and the phone will be slower.
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You appear to be a rude individual who disgraces Led Zep and showed be forced to change your icon to Vanilla Ice
The DX2 should NOT require to be managed for low ram. gTablet has none of these issues and besides some telephony tasks, has the same hardware and software setup as the DX2- none of the issues and no need to have to manage low operational ram. Seems the DX2 does not truly have 512mb of FUNCTIONAL ram, hence the need to run non standard scripts. For folks that do not root, they are SCREWED due to pi55 poor firmware by Motorola.
Start being nicer to people and you can keep your Led Zep icon with honor/honour.
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You're an idiot.
I've told you a few times already that the script fixes badly configured memory management no matter what the device.
The minfrees is a secondary to the primary function - fixing OOM groupings and priorities for optimal performance.
Is an app like AKMO or AMM only good for 256 mb devices?
No, they aren't. But all they do is change minfree values.
So don't be so stupid.
And for those that think it's causing battery drain, unsupercharge.
You will still have battery drain and the phone will be slower.
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I tend to agree with you on this. Having dealt with hardware for 25+ years, rarely does the hardware come optimized to a truly great point. Some are definitely worse than others, but there can still be improvements.
Expecting a perfectly optimized piece of hardware/software from any company seems bit foolish. Fortunately the community that uses the hardware are generally the best at getting it to it's best state, regardless of what those who like to drink the koolaid might say.
In any case, I ran this on my X2 and everything had been tip-top since. I have not seen this Zygote issue and I used option 9.
digital0verdose said:
I tend to agree with you on this. Having dealt with hardware for 25+ years, rarely does the hardware come optimized to a truly great point. Some are definitely worse than others, but there can still be improvements.
Expecting a perfectly optimized piece of hardware/software from any company seems bit foolish. Fortunately the community that uses the hardware are generally the best at getting it to it's best state, regardless of what those who like to drink the koolaid might say.
In any case, I ran this on my X2 and everything had been tip-top since. I have not seen this Zygote issue and I used option 9.
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Not seeing/tasting the koolaid here. Very simple point that out of box, the DX2 has to be managed like a 256mb ram device. I have been around a tad too and have my undergrad in computer electronics (so far back, we still used Tandy's to program eeproms then) so have a teeny bit of subject matter appreciation.
The points were never about the script, but the device itself. Out of box, the device operates with low ram- just like the Droid 1 (which I also owned). Back then, no problem, since 2.1 and lower only really used 256mb ram and the Droid 1 was (IMO) ten times better than the G1 that I also bought at launch.
For as long as there have been computers, people have been tweaking them.
Tell me, does each windows computer sold have a different memory configuration depending on ram?
No, its managed the same across the board.
Same thing with android.
I've been tweaking them since I had a pentium 90..ya... 90mhz with windows95.
You got rid of it and still troll forums as your new hobby.
No, you didn't drink the koolaid.
You tried V6 with low ram values, ignored my suggested megamemory settings, returned the phone, and troll and whine every chance you get about it.
So stop being an ignorant suck and enjoy your new whatever...
Oh yeah... I can be rude... big deal.
Just like you can be ignorant.
I just have a low tolerance to intentional ignorance.
You still spew stuff about 256mb device settings despite the fact that the script has megamemory device settings while the main feature is fixing the notoriously bad memory configuration of gingerbread on ALL devices.
If you can't grasp that, you're stupid too.
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zeppelinrox said:
For as long as there have been computers, people have been tweaking them.
Tell me, does each windows computer sold have a different memory configuration depending on ram?
No, its managed the same across the board.
Same thing with android.
I've been tweaking them since I had a pentium 90..ya... 90mhz with windows95.
You got rid of it and still troll forums as your new hobby.
No, you didn't drink the koolaid.
You tried V6 with low ram values, ignored my suggested megamemory settings, returned the phone, and troll and whine every chance you get about it.
So stop being an ignorant suck and enjoy your new whatever...
Oh yeah... I can be rude... big deal.
Just like you can be ignorant.
I just have a low tolerance to intentional ignorance.
You still spew stuff about 256mb device settings despite the fact that the script has megamemory device settings while the main feature is fixing the notoriously bad memory configuration of gingerbread on ALL devices.
If you can't grasp that, you're stupid too.
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To think I spent years in the Marines defending the rights of free speech for smack talkers like yourself
Based on your retorts and recalcitrant position, it seems you have everything figured out.
Bonzo would NOT approve of your attitude, nor the DX2 firmware.
yep, telling it like it is is not always popular, just ask Howard Cosell.
Btw why do you think musical artists are gods or religious figures or something?
That's so misguided. heh.
Oh yeah, there's the zep bio called Hammer of the Gods... I've read it and they aren't really gods lol
But they swung a mean hammer so maybe I do the name justice after all