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I have owned my G Tablet basically since it first came out. It has been a great little tablet, especially with all the custom roms available for it.
While the G Tab has it's cons like screen viewing angles, the positives definitely out weigh the negatives in my opinion.
I was thinking of getting another tablet. But, every time I compare what's out there now like the Xoom, Playbook, Samsung Galaxy to the G Tablet, I just cannot justify getting a new tablet.
The G Tab has an excellent processor, great battery life and wonderful community support. The only thing I can think of that the G Tab doesn't have is a HD rear cam for video recording. Which, in reality doesn't worry me to much because I have other devices, such as my phone for video.
What's your opinion? Is there any tablet out there you are considering as a replacement for the G Tablet? Or is it a better idea to see what the next generation of tablet brings?
I think I'm going to wait for the quad core Tegra's. The chip is supposed to have 5x the performance of a Tegra2.
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I hadnt even HEARD about the quad cores, whos releasing those?
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WOW
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/23/asus-to-introduce-quad-core-tegra-3-transformer-by-october/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/23/asus-to-introduce-quad-core-tegra-3-transformer-by-october/
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I see you found your answer. NVidia started shipping tech samples back in Feb with planned release this summer. I'm sure others will jump on the boat after the current crop of tab are out for a while...they do want to recoup some of their investment on the newest tablets, but I'll be waiting.
If you check NVidia, they have a whole line of Tegra processors planned through 2013, utlimately reaching 75x the performance of Tegra2.
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Today I would not buy a gTablet, but I don't think it's the right time to buy another tablet either. It's not just because 'the next generation will be better'. It's also because, 'the next generation lowers prices on the current generation'.
We are seeing more new tablets approach the $300 mark, either due to $100-off coupons or tablets just being priced low (i.e. Acer Iconia A100, 7-inch Tegra 2 Honeycomb tablet will be coming out at a rumored $300 price). Soon the choice may be between a $300 transformer, brand-new $300 Acer, and a $200 (if not totally discontinued) gTablet.
Tablets are rapidly evolving so I understand the upgrade cycle will be faster than, say, TVs or desktop computers. Even so, personally I will not upgrade more often than once a year; I'm not made of money. Late winter/spring 2012 we will have new tablets with 4.0/Ice cream, Tegra 3, and post-Christmas pricing might be more attractive. That's just me.
Tegra roadmap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
Jaycard, I'm in the same position, for the same reasons.
I don't need a newer operating system right now and my gtab runs any app my phone does.
Also every time I look at the newer tabs, I have to think, gee my Viewsonic can already do that.
For now it has been a good buy and and meets my needs.
So I'm going to wait till next year before I upgrade.
Maybe that Staples coupon was a real temptation.
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I have a strong feeling that there are some Apple employees or contractors spreading negative info about the Prime here at XDA. Wouldn't be hard for them to do and nearly impossible for us to detect. Just saying.
I think if the few main points they are pointing out turn out to be minor or overly exaggerated, (ie. Sound sucking, battery dying fast, price to high for the market, etc.), then it will be an iPad killer or come very close.
Note: Hate to use the "iKiller" phrase because apple has a place and a market regardless, but I digress.
Then I guess they're doing a bad job 'cause I'm still buying one!
It's not Apple employees. It's just Apple fanbois and zealots. It's more religion than anything for some of this deranged folks who don't feel right until they have everyone "converted". Facts and rational arguments don't matter, because it's a sin to like Android. "Think Different" is really "Think Apple, Amen".
I have no problem with Apple, as Ghandi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.".
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Then I guess they're doing a bad job 'cause I'm still buying one!
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That about says it all.
Up until the past few days everything put out about the Prime was PR from Asus. That and a few specific demos of games. As hands-on tests are released there's bound to be some negatives uncovered. It's not natural if there weren't. One could say that the fanboys aren't those seeking real-time feedback even if it's not positive but those that are blindly defending a product that's not even in the hands of conumers yet. And like someone said in another thread, there can be big differences from one review to another. The Galaxy Nexus was hailed as the second coming of Christ. Now that it's out it's clearly not perfect compared to the anticipation and PR. I for one want to get feedback from owners after they've used the Prime for a while. That's what XDA does best.
It was Steve Jobs himself .. He was here ... Look at your back ... There! There he is!
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It's not Apple employees. It's just Apple fanbois and zealots. It's more religion than anything for some of this deranged folks who don't feel right until they have everyone "converted". Facts and rational arguments don't matter, because it's a sin to like Android. "Think Different" is really "Think Apple, Amen".
I have no problem with Apple, as Ghandi said, "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.".
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Up until the past few days everything put out about the Prime was PR from Asus. That and a few specific demos of games. As hands-on tests are released there's bound to be some negatives uncovered. It's not natural if there weren't. One could say that the fanboys aren't those seeking real-time feedback even if it's not positive but those that are blindly defending a product that's not even in the hands of conumers yet. And like someone said in another thread, there can be big differences from one review to another. The Galaxy Nexus was hailed as the second coming of Christ. Now that it's out it's clearly not perfect compared to the anticipation and PR. I for one want to get feedback from owners after they've used the Prime for a while. That's what XDA does best.
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I couldn't agree more. I have been slightly disappointed to hear some of the negatives about the Prime; especially in the Anandtech review when compared to the ipad2. That doesn't mean that I'm not really excited about this product. I don't need it to be a Jesus-tablet. I would just like it to be a really nice high end Android device that i will enjoy using for a long time (relatively of course). So, I for one haven't cancelled my order. I also haven't seen any Apple fanboys on these threads yet. Of course, I did remove my tin foil helmet some time ago so that could have something to do with it too.
I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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which tests are you talking about exactly?
i would say most issues aside from hardware design issues stem from honeycomb and how crappy that version of android is as far as optimization and design goes.
hopefully ICS will fix a lot of the really big issues that HC has yet to even address.
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I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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IMHO, the point of the Transformer Prime is all about the *convenience*. For example, no one buys a MBA for its speed; even a $600 laptop would be faster.
The Transformer doesn't have to be better than the iPad or an ultrabook/MBA. But when you're on the road or wherever, carrying the Transformer will be heckuva lot more convenient than carrying both the iPad and MBA.
The whole is more than the some of its part. That's why the original Transformer has won awards such as tablet of the year, laptop of the year and device of the year!
zoro25 said:
I'm no apple fanboy infact the opposite, I think most of the apple crowd are sheep.
I am thinking of getting a prime for my wife. However the point that I find off putting is that the prime can only barely beat the IPAD2 in most tests and in some tests it fails compared to the Ipad2.
The Ipad2 is about a year old and the latest device and chipset that Nvidia and Asus can muster can only equal or barely beat it?.
really with the 11 month lead time the Prime should be kicking the Ipads ass, but it isn't.
I can only therefore gather that the Ipad3 whenever it is released would make the prime look like yesterdays tech just like the prime should have done but failed to do to the Ipad2.
I would love to be told that I am wrong and that infact the prime does indeed stomp all over the Ipad2?
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these are my thoughts as well, it makes me really uneasy about buying this thing.
which at first i thought blew ipad2 out of the water.
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these are my thoughts as well, it makes me really uneasy about buying this thing.
which at first i thought blew ipad2 out of the water.
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I'm usually first in line for new and shiny tech. For a second-gen tablet, I'm going to wait a bit. Here's my thinking: 1) I want to see what people's real experiences are with Teg 3, 2) I want to see what the performance difference is with ICS irrespective of h/w, and 3) Acer, Lenovo, and HTC have all announced quad-cores with more RAM (2GB) and higher res (1920 x 1152) displays which are probably going to become the new standard for high-end tablets. Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung are all working on next-gen chipsets too. For those with short memory, Nvidia was the worst of the dual-cores (except for gaming) and unless something's changed it probably pays to wait and see what the other chip makers come up with. Also getting a tablet launched with and optimized for ICS is preferable to a future update.
If you need a tablet right away, and don't currently have one, it makes sense to go with the Prime. If you have a first-gen tablet more choices are going to be available by Q1. And after reading the Amazon cancellation thread and some of the problems being reported by reviewers it seems that Asus is really rushing this puppy out in order to be first to market. Historically, that's never been good.
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I'm usually first in line for new and shiny tech. For a second-gen tablet, I'm going to wait a bit. Here's my thinking: 1) I want to see what people's real experiences are with Teg 3, 2) I want to see what the performance difference is with ICS irrespective of h/w, and 3) Acer, Lenovo, and HTC have all announced quad-cores with more RAM (2GB) and higher res (1920 x 1152) displays which are probably going to become the new standard for high-end tablets. Qualcomm, TI, and Samsung are all working on next-gen chipsets too. For those with short memory, Nvidia was the worst of the dual-cores (except for gaming) and unless something's changed it probably pays to wait and see what the other chip makers come up with. Also getting a tablet launched with and optimized for ICS is preferable to a future update.
If you need a tablet right away, and don't currently have one, it makes sense to go with the Prime. If you have a first-gen tablet more choices are going to be available by Q1. And after reading the Amazon cancellation thread and some of the problems being reported by reviewers it seems that Asus is really rushing this puppy out in order to be first to market. Historically, that's never been good.
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I think that is an astute observation. i don't have a tablet yet and now is the right time to buy for me. If I could find the original TF at a deeply discounted price I think I would probably go that route for now. As is, I guess I will stick with the prime. It is after-all a beautiful device with a lot of upsides at least.
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I think that is an astute observation. i don't have a tablet yet and now is the right time to buy for me. If I could find the original TF at a deeply discounted price I think I would probably go that route for now. As is, I guess I will stick with the prime. It is after-all a beautiful device with a lot of upsides at least.
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Watch this site: http://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=9
Transformers, Iconias, Thrives, and K1s have popped up for as low as $250 NIB for the holidays. If you get one, it would be a great transitional tablet until you have more choices for second-gen tablets available. You could probably turn around and sell it for close to what you paid via eBay or Craigslist after using it for a few months. But I totally agree that if you're paying retail the Prime is the best of what's out now.
So I'm sure some of you have heard that the 64gb Transformer Primes have been delayed until Q2 of 2012. My thoughts on this is that Asus screwed up their tablet launch because by the time they get the 64gb models out, their tablet will be outdated. By Q2 the next gen iPad will be out, the Acer A700 will be out along with Lenovo's tablet. Both the Acer and Lenovo tablets will run the Tegra 3 processor and are rumored to have full HD screens. The only reason I was willing to get the Prime in the first place was because I didn't want to wait.
What are everybody else's thoughts on this. Anyone feeling the same I am?
This is news to me. Got a link to this announcement?
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So I'm sure some of you have heard that the 64gb Transformer Primes have been delayed until Q2 of 2012. My thoughts on this is that Asus screwed up their tablet launch because by the time they get the 64gb models out, their tablet will be outdated. By Q2 the next gen iPad will be out, the Acer A700 will be out along with Lenovo's tablet. Both the Acer and Lenovo tablets will run the Tegra 3 processor and are rumored to have full HD screens. The only reason I was willing to get the Prime in the first place was because I didn't want to wait.
What are everybody else's thoughts on this. Anyone feeling the same I am?
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Some of this information true! however I don't see any benefit of FULL HD screen with 10" or even 12" just like the HDTV you will not going to enjoy the HD if the Screen not 50"+
maybe you mean AMOLED screen!
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/blog/...ansformer_prime_delayed_until_q2_of_2012.html
Article to Acer A700 and Lenovo Ideapad K2
http://androidcommunity.com/lenovo-...920x1200-resolution-full-hd-display-20111118/
*I forgot to mention both of these tablets are supposed to have 2gb of ram.
the next gen iPad is still a rumor.
A rumor started on the back of the announcement of the Prime.
When have Apple ever launched a new product without showing any screens of it.
I bet iPad 3 won't arrive to 4th quarter at best, same as the next gen Galaxy tab.
Still waiting to see how Android with Tegra3 perform on those high definition.
And if the screen looks good (color, contrast ratio, refresh rate, brightness, viewing angle) And the huge battery is surely to handle the more power hungry screen.
And from a general consummer point of view I hardly see someone buy the Acer over the Prime when looking at both of them side by side.
People like pretty thing <3
They don't care about 2gb of ram and they hardly see pixels even when looking at an iphone3GS screen. so...
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the next gen iPad is still a rumor.
A rumor started on the back of the announcement of the Prime.
When have Apple ever launched a new product without showing any screens of it.
I bet iPad 3 won't arrive to 4th quarter at best, same as the next gen Galaxy tab.
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Well there is a rumor of a smaller 7" iPad to be released 1st quarter next year. I don't know if you follow digitimes but there is evidence that apple is working on something because they have stopped ordering ipad 2 displays and new displays are being ordered from LG and Sharp.
Got an e-mail from Amazon about 7 hours ago. They're sending my 64gb on 4th january.
You should check your info before posting
Anyways, i want the prime because with the dock (for the extra battery + usb + sd slot), and because it feels like a real useful thing, and not just like an expensive "toy", which is what i feel are the other tablets. i don't care if they are a bit better (remember that having better specifications also means price will probably be higher), i feel that, just for the dock, the transformer will be way more useful.
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Still waiting to see how Android with Tegra3 perform on those high definition.
And if the screen looks good (color, contrast ratio, refresh rate, brightness, viewing angle) And the huge battery is surely to handle the more power hungry screen.
And from a general consummer point of view I hardly see someone buy the Acer over the Prime when looking at both of them side by side.
People like pretty thing <3
They don't care about 2gb of ram and they hardly see pixels even when looking at an iphone3GS screen. so...
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I have no doubt the Tegra 3 will perform well. I actually believe there is a benchmark for the T3 on the HD display in my second link. If the Acer and Lenovo tablets are as they are rumored I'm sure they will easily outsells the prime given the price point is good. I really think Tegra 3 ice cream sandwich tablets will definitely benefit from 2gb of ram and I've always had to worry about resource management on all my devices it'd be nice not to worry about it for once.
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Got an e-mail from Amazon about 7 hours ago. They're sending my 64gb on 4th january.
You should check your info before posting
Anyways, i want the prime because with the dock (for the extra battery + usb + sd slot), and because it feels like a real useful thing, and not just like an expensive "toy", which is what i feel are the other tablets. i don't care if they are a bit better (remember that having better specifications also means price will probably be higher), i feel that, just for the dock, the transformer will be way more useful.
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I did check look at the link. Did your tablet actually ship out or it will be shipping? As for the keyboard dock since the idea is out there now others will definitely follow.
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I did check look at the link. Did your tablet actually ship out or it will be shipping? As for the keyboard dock since the idea is out there now others will definitely follow.
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I had already read that (if you look at it, it's 10 days old, it was already posted in this forum). It only says UK 64Gb are being delayed on the original article in slashgear (link in your own link), and everything is based on what one shop has said (nothing official from ASUS... again). In their shop they still say "Release date to be confirmed. Expected Quarter 2 2012". It reminds me of what happened with Amazon and the 32gb gray... and you see, most had it by the 19-20...
My guess is that they're just protecting themselves against the ****storm of having a earlier release date and then changing it. And again, it has only happened in the UK, in that particular shop.
Anyway, my 64GB Gray Prime is expected to be shipped 4th January from Amazon.de. It was a "we will send you an e-mail when we have a confirmed release date" until tonight. I will keep you informed if it ships or not
And about the dock, the original transformer has been out since march/april i think. Acer did something similar, i believe, but no one else. Maybe it's just a patents issue, maybe they don't believe in the format. For me, it's what makes this tablet worth it.
Manufacturers leak specs and info of a prototype often to wet the appetite of consumers and enthusiasts . But when real manufacturing begins, you start to see how the real model differs from the prototype because sacrifices had to be made for mass production. I wouldn't be surprised of the 2 GB ram i reduced to 1GB when real manufacturing begins.
Here's the reality Tegra 3 just does not have a high enough gpu to run a 1900x1200 screen it will not work Acer is going to take a flop
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the next gen iPad is still a rumor.
A rumor started on the back of the announcement of the Prime.
When have Apple ever launched a new product without showing any screens of it.
I bet iPad 3 won't arrive to 4th quarter at best, same as the next gen Galaxy
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When? Every time they release a product.
Apple announces products about the same time they are released. No advanced photos or specs.
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When? Every time they release a product.
Apple announces products about the same time they are released. No advanced photos or specs.
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as i recall, someone always leave the next apple anything in a bar somewhere, way before release....
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Some of this information true! however I don't see any benefit of FULL HD screen with 10" or even 12" just like the HDTV you will not going to enjoy the HD if the Screen not 50"+
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The main benefit I see it you can mirror the device on HD TV without any rescaling. Other than that I think it's useless and will slow down games. I wonder if the delay is related to GPS problem.
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Here's the reality Tegra 3 just does not have a high enough gpu to run a 1900x1200 screen it will not work Acer is going to take a flop
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Nvidia said they had optimized the Tegra 3 to run at 2560x1440 resolution. You can hear them say this in the early demos for the Kal-El demonstrations.
I feel the Tegra 3 will easily handle the high resolution screens. Only problem that I would want a super IPS+ display as well. No point in having the higher resolutions if the screen is so much dimmer then the Prime.
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Nvidia said they had optimized the Tegra 3 to run at 2560x1440 resolution. You can hear them say this in the early demos for the Kal-El demonstrations.
I feel the Tegra 3 will easily handle the high resolution screens. Only problem that I would want a super IPS+ display as well. No point in having the higher resolutions if the screen is so much dimmer then the Prime.
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just because they said it doesn't make it true, it will run that hig of a screen but it wont be as fluid as we would like. The GPU in tegra 3 is enough to run our screen but once you get higher you have to manipulate that many more pixles on every transition which is a gpu hog and ram hog
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Manufacturers leak specs and info of a prototype often to wet the appetite of consumers and enthusiasts . But when real manufacturing begins, you start to see how the real model differs from the prototype because sacrifices had to be made for mass production. I wouldn't be surprised of the 2 GB ram i reduced to 1GB when real manufacturing begins.
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exactly. plus ipad3 is the only one that we know for sure will drop sooner than later. just don't know exactly when. all other tabs will be around a late spring/summer release at earliest.
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Here's the reality Tegra 3 just does not have a high enough gpu to run a 1900x1200 screen it will not work Acer is going to take a flop
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hey, that's my gpu you talking about..lol. plus see the others guy post lower down. the gpu is actually beefy enough to handle it. gpu overall speed has increased alot and memory bandwidth speed increased also.
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When? Every time they release a product.
Apple announces products about the same time they are released. No advanced photos or specs.
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history has shown this about apple. at the last minute they announce it and cause a media frenzy
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The main benefit I see it you can mirror the device on HD TV without any rescaling. Other than that I think it's useless and will slow down games. I wonder if the delay is related to GPS problem.
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I think so also. if higher end PC, being more powerful, has issues playing games n such at super high resolutions, what makes people think a tablet can handle it any easier. we won't know till these devices are released. can't wait to see how tegra3 performs with it. I think with the prime, we hit a sweet spot on performance and display quality. even once tegra3 gets put in phones, nvdia already stated they will be downclocked and more optimized.
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Nvidia said they had optimized the Tegra 3 to run at 2560x1440 resolution. You can hear them say this in the early demos for the Kal-El demonstrations.
I feel the Tegra 3 will easily handle the high resolution screens. Only problem that I would want a super IPS+ display as well. No point in having the higher resolutions if the screen is so much dimmer then the Prime.
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I saw this also. I always try to use this as counter argument against other companies coming out with higher raise displays. Tegra3 supports it also so don't sleep on them
ChrisDos said:
Nvidia said they had optimized the Tegra 3 to run at 2560x1440 resolution. You can hear them say this in the early demos for the Kal-El demonstrations.
I feel the Tegra 3 will easily handle the high resolution screens. Only problem that I would want a super IPS+ display as well. No point in having the higher resolutions if the screen is so much dimmer then the Prime.
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Remember what the google dev said in her blog.... If you have a 2x higher amount of pixels it needs 2x the cpu power per core to have the same speed as the device with less pixels. For Prime vs Iconia:
Prime: 1280x800 = 1,024,000 pixels on 1.4Ghz per core
Iconia: 1920x1200 = 2,304,000 pixels on probably 1.4GHz too or maybe 1.6Ghz. So it got 2.25x more pixels.
Thus, according to the Google Dev, if you want to have the same performance on the Iconia as on the Prime you'll need each core clocked to 1.4x2.25= 3.15Ghz and I don't think that is gonna happen really soon So Iconia will probably be overall slower than the Prime.
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Ahhh man, **** just got real interesting... just dont know if I can wait till March... if that's even when its supposed to come out... been waiting since last August for the prime... choices choices
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I would be surprised if it came out before Q3/4, they are saying A700 is a tech demo and not consumer product.
That plastic back looks mighty tempting :O
engadget says the a700 isn't even coming out as a production device? argument is kinda moot then.
meh
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OK, this Acer tab looks decent but tech demo. won't be released till much later in the year.
another upcoming tablet people mentioned waiting on was something from Lenovo. Well I found an article on it and this has no chance of beating the Prime out. This for Barry n others..lmao
The display is inferior
Power/Processor is inferior
the front and back cam inferior
its keyboard dock looks inferior to Prime
from what they stating on battery life, that's also inferior to Prime
Also there is no 2GB of Ram. its only gonna be 1 . lmfao
so all in all looks inferior all around the board, although a decent lower end tablet. Prime users on the High End
I seriously hope this isn't the so called Lenovo tablet I've been hearing so much about that's reason to pass Prime up. Cuz if it is, its been seriously dumbed down in specs from what people been barking. Its gonna have same resolution as prime but lower quality or not as good.
here is a link to the failed Lenovo tablet and it's a very recent article. not some hype article from months ago just speculating on specs. This is more accurate/recent
http://landofdroid.com/2012/lenovo-announce-ideatab-s2-10-inch-tablet-plus-keyboard-combo/
Also, the new Toshiba tablet is inferior also tl Prime..lol. can't believe this tabs are what people was saying are better than prime with higher resolution screens. they all have inferior specs and displays. not sure about that Acer though but I will find out.
www.landofdroid.com/2012/toshiba-introduce-excite-x10-1-2ghz-dual-core-tablet/
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I would be surprised if it came out before Q3/4, they are saying A700 is a tech demo and not consumer product.
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I will have to thank E.mote on this thread. In one thread, the 3 most talked about tablets to pass up Prime for has been killed in one thread. The Acer700 isn't even coming out for consumers. The Lenovo tablet had its specs seriously dumbed down and is not having super high resolution screen, has only 1Gb of ram, and an inferior dual core Processor. Same with the new Toshiba tablet coming out. Dumbed down specs and basically inferior all around the board. the later 2 will have same resolution but lower quality being only IPS. Prime has Super IPS+.
That only leaves the Ipad3 left. I'm sure that will be the most interesting out of mentioned tablets that are upcoming. Looks like Prime might be king of Android tablets for majority of 2012 if not the whole year. lol.
Acer said "1st half" for A700, which most took to be Q2. My guess would be May/June, allowing for ramp-up of screen yields. Tegra 2 tabs (excl Xoom) came out in April last year. More interesting would be the price. I'm expecting $500, especially if iPad 3 comes out with QXGA res at same price.
Would have been nice for Sasha bud to comment on screen quality. Guess we'll get that soon enough as CES rolls along.
Would like to see Lenovo LePad in on the dust-up, which also sports fullHD & Teg3. The LePad will be priced higher, since it's for biz segment. Should've called it the ThinkTab. Engadget has a brief hands-on of the LePad. I'd expect this for 2nd half.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/lenovo-lepad-k2010-ideatab-k2-hands-on/
Agree about the Tosh Excite. OMAP4 is 2011 stuff, and price isn't competitive.
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Acer said "1st half" for A700, which most took to be Q2. My guess would be May/June, allowing for ramp-up of screen yields. Tegra 2 tabs (excl Xoom) came out in April last year. More interesting would be the price. I'm expecting $500, especially if iPad 3 comes out with QXGA res at same price.
Would have been nice for Sasha bud to comment on screen quality. Guess we'll get that soon enough as CES rolls along.
Would like to see Lenovo LePad in on the dust-up, which also sports fullHD & Teg3. The LePad will be priced higher, since it's for biz segment. Should've called it the ThinkTab. Engadget has a brief hands-on of the LePad. I'd expect this for 2nd half.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/lenovo-lepad-k2010-ideatab-k2-hands-on/
Edit 3: Oops x 3. I'm getting confoozed with names. The LePad youtube vid previously linked is the Win hybrid and not the fullHD Android model.
Agree about the Tosh Excite. OMAP4 is 2011 stuff, and price isn't competitive.
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now this Lenovo one looks decent. Might follow the same fate as prime regarding GPS since back is metal also. He said metallic feel so material of backplate still needs confirming. its said to run tegra3 and higher resolution. if you read further down article into the comments, you will see alot of worries n doubt on it. Main one being that the higher resolution will eat up alot more processing power of tegra3, even of clocked slightly higher. That will make it less powerful on performance. That's why I think Prime n Tegra3 hit the sweet spot when it comes to great processing power and an excellent HD display also. Also they said this is aimed more for the business market. with that display, if specs hold to be true, it will make this device considerably more expensive than the Prime. most people I've seen here posted $500 being the Max they would pay for a tablet, regardless of specs. IF Lenovo could bring this tablet at same range as prime it would be a miracle but I doubt it though.
Something else I noticed, this tablet is thick like the original Toshiba Thrive. Definitely not slim like the Prime. If they going to make it thick like that might as well of added a full size USB port. But it doesn't have it. only looks to have full size SD card slot. That UI looked horrible also as it wasn't optimized yet. The guy also said release date hasn't even been "Officially" said or thought of yet. it will release in China first then internationally. So expect this around May/June earliest for China release. then a month or 2 later for international release. Looks like a very long wait. by then something better will be out or right around the corner..lol
>Might follow the same fate as prime regarding GPS since back is metal also
From the (newly linked) vid, it's faux metal. Regardless, since it's for business, wireless performance will be reliable. Part of the higher cost.
Edit: The guy before the rep says that K2 will be for "$399 for 16GB version, available in Q2." Pretty sure that ain't true.
>if you read further down article into the comments
I don't pay much attention to Youtube comments as a rule. Whatever said at this point is merely speculation. We'll see when it (and the Acer) comes out. Since the Prime can do 1080p via HDMI no problem, I expect same perf for screen res. If UI lags persist with ICS, then it's an OS problem.
>this tablet is thick like the original Toshiba Thrive
Yes, the Prime's thinness and metal back are strong appeals. I wouldn't say K2 is as fat as the Thrive--which is pretty dang fat--but more like the OG TF or Acer A500. However, for business segment, durability counts more than style.
>Will either of those snap into a keyboard dock with a battery and extra ports?
For Android tabs, I think Asus will have exclusive bragging rights on this. Aside from Asus, I don't see much enthusiasm from vendors for Android tabs. For Win8 tabs, I expect many--if not most--setups to be hybrid w/ detachable screen.
Thanks I will keep my prime!
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Will either of those snap into a keyboard dock with a battery and extra ports?
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Will either of those snap into a keyboard dock with a battery and extra ports?
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the ideapsd s2 I linked does but its specs are not up to Prime Standards. Hold up, it makes no mention of its dock having a battery included so I guess its a fail.
Wait until you guys see the tablet that Razor is introducing at CES alongside their overpriced laptop. I am here at MGM in Vegas gambling my ass off with some tech freaks. The guy who I was talking to at the Craps table asked me what I was here to see and I told him a few things. After I told him I was a gamer and a Android freak, he then said, "wait until you see the tablet that Razor is introducing." I told him I was getting the prime and he said to come back and tell him if I still wanted the prime after seeing the Razor. Bottom Line. Its probably going to cost a arm and a leg.
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I'm actually disappointed by Lenovo's quad core tablet. I won't even go into detail on why... Lenovo's dual core Krait tablet is good on CPU (won't know how well it does compared to tegra 3 til we see comparison benchmark) but Adreno GPU is horrendous. But overall, terrible showing by lenovo on tablet front...
Now, Acer's quad core is interesting. Except, it'll be on same 1.3ghz Tegra 3 (according to The Verge & Android Police.. although, i think it is speculation) with 1080p display and must likely, with 2 gig of ram. If it does get released in Q2, the price will most likely be at $500 (for 16g).. I doubt they'll go higher and compete with Apple and Samsung. I personally like the build quality (certainly an upgrade from the ugly Iconia A500).. but...
Is it worth the wait for 1080p resolution and 2 gig of Ram? Considering that android has dearth of dedicated tablet apps, the high resolution and ram will hardly be taken advantage of except GAMES and 1080p movies.
I'll wait and see what Samsung and Asus to offer...
Lenovo IdeaTab S2 10, 7, and 5-inchers
The IdeaPad S2 10 comes closest to the Asus Prime in configuration, with dock that houses an extra 10-hr batt (20-hr total). Would be interesting to see the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon's bench numbers. Available Q2.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/lenovos-ideatab-s2-10-joins-the-tablet-transformation-gang-pa/
The 7 comes with HC.
One of the few 5" toys. Comes with GB, but that can be rectified.
Shocker !
The so called "competition" to the Prime won't blow it away in any regard, won't be cheaper and won't come out before god knows when.
Maybe getting the Prime isn't such a bad idea after all.
Wow Im digging that Acer. Assuming Acer will have more game support? Well as far as gameloft games anyway. I do hope it does come out to consumers. I also like that it has micro USB for charging rather than proprietary one. Will be using my prime till then.
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Wow Im digging that Acer. Assuming Acer will have more game support? Well as far as gameloft games anyway. I do hope it does come out to consumers. I also like that it has micro USB for charging rather than proprietary one. Will be using my prime till then.
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they aren't sure anymore if the USB can be used for charging.
personally, i'm not blown away by either of those tablets, is 1080p enticing? sure, but i'll take my cost effective, good dock having, in my hands now prime over something that may be out by the middle of this year.
being that toshiba wants to charge 500+ for the 16gb dual core a200, these tablets are going to be priced right out of the market.
I'm too sold on the keyboard dock to have considered either of these new devices. I'd like the 2GB DDR3 that appears to be an option on the Lenovo tablet, I admit... browser tabs are still unloaded more than I'd like on 1GB RAM. I don't value high-resolution screens above the keyboard dock, though; high-res screens are pretty, but the keyboard dock is transformative (no pun intended).
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-rebrands-its-tablets-transformer-pads-announces-the-infi/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/asus-outs-lower-end-transformer-pad-300-tablet-with-16gb-of-stor/
There you go So we'll be having a luxury model, thats more expensive and without tegra3 but 1080p display. And then a low cost one, without IPS+, only 16gb und ugly colored (imho) plastic backs.
Asus also gives slightly less battery life (10h against 12h of the prime) on both "new" tablets. Of course they will be good devices, but with both of them i think "ah its just slightly off from what i'm looking for".
I think the Prime is still the sweet spot, and i'm glad i didnt wait
Does the LTE vertion include WiFi?
Now I'm fully convinced to get my Prime, as soon as Amazon Italy lists it as available again.
There is a Tegra 3 one for the WiFi only version model, that's listed in the article you linked.
I have a feeling the prime will slowly disappear when the 300 is released. The two cannot really exist very well together on store shelves i don't think. Who knows when the 300 will be available though. We will have had our primes for months already.
i just can't see them selling both. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see the prime readily available in stores. It doesn't even fit with their new naming. It would confuse people. It sort of belongs as a 500 series with the premium materials and better screen than the 300.
Asus Press Releases
Asus press releases on this:
http://press.asus.com/asus-showcase...rmer-pad-range-at-mobile-world-congress-2012/
http://press.asus.com/asus-padfone-...ineup-unveiled-at-mobile-world-congress-2012/
I just hope sprint gets that Padphone and it will be all mine 1 device to do it all
Now that's a design feat right there!
Not a docking phone into a laptop but a docking phone into a tablet then into a keyboard
Bring that into an apple store and everyone would be like what! I need that! I can replace my iPhone iPad and macbook air! For what less then 1000 you got me sold!
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i think every Prime owner should demand their backplates to be replaced with those from Pad Infinity design with plastic RF window.
Snapdragon S4 VS Tegra 3
This is all pretty crazy now haha. There was only 1 original Transformer (TF101) and now there's exactly 7,451 second generation models.
Just a question though, i've seen benchmarks and it seems that the S4 in the LTE prime is better than Tegra 3, does anyone think the extra cores in Tegra 3 could make up for lack of speed in some applications?
No way the dual core a15 snapdragon will smoke the tegra 3 in not only overclocking but all around performance.
Now what we should be looking forward to is the snapdragon s4 pro the one with the adreno 320 gpu that will be a real deal breaker!
Nvidia just wanted to be first to market so they took the tegra 2 and shrunk it down threw in an extra core for battery and got almost all the attention for being first!
Optimization> # of cores
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actually as a consumer i dont care at all about cores or potential speed in benchmark xy
I care about battery life and most importantly software. I'm sure all the regular games will run smooth on all the new CPUs thats not an issue. Also UI will be completely smooth thats already possible with a dualcore (galaxy s2).
So what does tegra3 offer? Intelligent design with ninja core for battery life and dedicated games that look better than anything else. That makes it better than any other chip IMHO.
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ninja core
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This.
The battery life is SO much better because of this.
..vs K3V2
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actually as a consumer i dont care at all about cores or potential speed in benchmark xy
I care about battery life and most importantly software. I'm sure all the regular games will run smooth on all the new CPUs thats not an issue. Also UI will be completely smooth thats already possible with a dualcore (galaxy s2).
So what does tegra3 offer? Intelligent design with ninja core for battery life and dedicated games that look better than anything else. That makes it better than any other chip IMHO.
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Haha I guess your right, as long as it works and works WELL, that's more than enough.
Plus if we all cared about specs we'd all be running to the huawei k3v2 chip
"49 percent faster in purely CPU-powered tasks and uses 30 percent less power than its competitors"
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/26/huawei-adds-home-grown-k3v2-quad-core-mobile-cpu-to-its-arsenal/
THIS MOBILE TECH SPACE IS JUST GETTING STUPID NOW!
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THIS MOBILE TECH SPACE IS JUST GETTING STUPID NOW!
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Most definately Its kinda funny i think... This is completely off topic, but i really wonder what phone manufacturers think when they decide on specs for their new phones.
For example HTC, new line of phones. I like 4.3" phones so the One S is for me. Right now i have a DesireHD. If i upgrade i get a new CPU, yay. But only 16gb memory and only 1500mAh battery (the same as my DHD...).
That means i get a potentionally faster chip (yay for psx/n64 emulation, only place where my dhd is at its limits), but it wont even be able to hold my Music library. Guess i should take my ancient ipod with me again... I liked HTC so far but this is just fail.
now back to topic I hope as many phones as possible will use Tegra3. That means more software dedicated to that chip. And more software on our Prime.
Ooh, I've seen this before. HTC did that. They released so many models that it was hard to keep track of. And this led them to a really sad situation where they are now forced to step back.
ASUS is making a mistake by releasing new models this frequently. It upsets buyers who have invested in a 'new tablet' that is outdated by the same company only few months later and leaves an impression of ASUS basically doing HTC, just improving hardware a little and causing absolutely horrible fragmentation. TF201 will likely not even get Android 5.0 officially.
I liked Engadget poking ASUS as well: "No word yet on pricing or availability. In any case, though, we wouldn't be surprised if ASUS gave birth to another tablet between now and then."
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Most definately Its kinda funny i think... This is completely off topic, but i really wonder what phone manufacturers think when they decide on specs for their new phones.
For example HTC, new line of phones. I like 4.3" phones so the One S is for me. Right now i have a DesireHD. If i upgrade i get a new CPU, yay. But only 16gb memory and only 1500mAh battery (the same as my DHD...). .
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Seconded. Was looking forward to the new HTC models, my Desire has been fantastic and I was not considering any other manufacturer, but then they go and announce the One X and S and it turns out they don't have any memory card slots. What the ****? 32GB on the One X I might be able to live with, but it's too big, and the One S does not have anywhere near enough storage.
Will wait and see on the Asus Padphone now. You might want to check that out - I couldn't give a crap about using it as a tablet but it's got a 4.3 inch display same as the One S and between 16-64GB of internal storage as well as a memory card slot.
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I have a feeling the prime will slowly disappear when the 300 is released. The two cannot really exist very well together on store shelves i don't think. Who knows when the 300 will be available though. We will have had our primes for months already.
i just can't see them selling both. I wouldn't be surprised if we never see the prime readily available in stores. It doesn't even fit with their new naming. It would confuse people. It sort of belongs as a 500 series with the premium materials and better screen than the 300.
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I think you are wrong. If anything, the original Transformer will be phased out when the TP300 is released, since the 300 will replace the OG Transformer as the budget model tablet. Also Asus has stated that they see a long product life span ahead for the current model Transformer Prime, and I believe them.
So you guys ok with a cheaper tablet with better wifi, gps etc? With Sd card slot, the 16 GB storage is not going to be a problem. Also i highly doubt if we will see Padfone in US. Its head ache to deal with carriers here and Asus may well not do it.
So the new Transformer Pad Infinity is basically the current Transformer Prime but with the following changes:
- Same metallic spun finish but with a plastic strip at the top to fix the GPS/BT/WiFi issues the Prime had.
- Same Tegra 3 CPU as the Prime (WiFi model only) but now clocked at 1.6Ghz.
- Improved display. Now 1920x1800.
- Improved front facing camera. Now 2MP and capable of HD video calls.
- 1hr less battery time compared to Prime. Due to increased resolution and clock speed.
- Available in 16GB, 32GB and 64GB configurations and same colours as the Prime.
- Same ports and keyboard dock as the Prime.
I think I might have to wait for this now. Hopefully it fixes all the issues the Prime has.
I personally would gladly trade 16 gigs internal storage for functional wifi/bt. I'll be waiting to see what the rest of the week brings for MWC, but i'm 100% sure now that I wont be buying anything until about a month out to let everyone figure out whats wrong with all these tabs.