I'm about to buy my wife an Eris.
She (unlike me) does not have Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder, so we are looking for a daily driver ROM. The main thing for her is battery life and stability of the software. She is accustomed to HTC Sense from a previous phone she had (dIncredible) so my question is what is the most full featured, functional ROM available?
How bad is the stock ROM?
are there any gingerbread (I know it ditches Sense) ROM's that are stable enough for daily use?
thanks in advance for your wisdom, guys
obededom said:
I'm about to buy my wife an Eris.
She (unlike me) does not have Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder, so we are looking for a daily driver ROM. The main thing for her is battery life and stability of the software. She is accustomed to HTC Sense from a previous phone she had (dIncredible) so my question is what is the most full featured, functional ROM available?
How bad is the stock ROM?
are there any gingerbread (I know it ditches Sense) ROM's that are stable enough for daily use?
thanks in advance for your wisdom, guys
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These, of course, are purely my opinion.
1. xtrSENSE is probably the best bet. Unlike stock, it is overclocked when the processor is being used and underclocked when it is idle, to give better battery life, and the cache2cache feature moves the application dalvik cache to the relatively unused internal /cache partition, giving a lot more space for user apps and data.
2. I've only used stock very briefly for a few days earlier this week (since rooting last May). There was a recent OTA update that is rolling out right now, and without using stock with the update over a long period it is hard to say if the problems that I am about to list are solved. However, stock tends to get a very laggy dialer over time, especially as the call log increases, and you have to stay on top of the text message store as well, as once the number of saved messages reaches a large amount it takes a long time to delete them. When the dialer gets laggy it can also cause answering calls to get frustratingly laggy as well. Again, these may have been solved with the latest release.
3. I've only used GSB myself, but it is extremely stable and has only very minor issues, as I recall. I think if you open the camera and double-tap the display to focus, it will force close the camera, though auto-focus when you take a photo is just fine. Perhaps there are other issues, but otherwise it is very nice. I haven't used Tazz's GB ROM or the TastyBreadBuild; you may want to poke around in those threads, but I am sure that they are equally fine and stable.
However, I really think that the most stable ROM that delivers something that you can count on (plus, the Sense launcher) is xtrSENSE.
xtrSENSE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467
GSB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944430
By the way, no matter which ROM she uses, I imagine that moving from the Incredible the Eris will feel slow.
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These, of course, are purely my opinion.
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thank you very much. That's exactly the type of info I needed. Props
Totally agree with everything doogald has said! I have tried a lot of ROMs but I always come back to XtrSense as my everyday ROM.
hate to post just a +1, but xtrsense is one of the best if you want to keep sense. The stock is not terrible, but is laggy. Both GSB and GingerTazz are extremely stable. Both have excellent battery life when on standby. However, the screen seems to suck the life out of the battery on the GB roms. After about 12 hours (how long my shifts are) with a few texts and a quick call, light internet use, I generally have between 70 and 80 percent battery on GSB 1.9. The other day, I was getting another replacement eris (notorious trackball issue) and the sales rep was surprised when he told me because the eris has a slow processor, it can be laggy, and I told him I hadn't seen that problem (didn't tell him it was when I was using GB).
+1 xtrSENSE. Also, I've now used both GSB and GingerTazz and I just go with whichever was updated most recently, which ATM is GingerTazz v11.
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If you want the latest and greatest then you should really check out either one of the Gingerbread roms from Workshed or Tazz. Currently I prefer Worksheds GSB. They are both really stable and quick though. If not one these roms then I would HIGHLY recommend zach.xtr's xtrROM 5.0. That is a really Fast Rom.
wildstang83
Why did she ditch the Incredible for the Eris??
I'm still pretty new to the mod community here, but I'm loving GSB so far. It's amazing that there are so many mods and ROMS of Android continually coming out for the Eris, almost seems like it's in defiance of Verizon discontinuing the phone so quickly after its release.
The only ROM I've used before GSB was Nonsensikal 16.1. For me at least, that one seemed really laggy. GSB's been running like a dream, however.
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Why did she ditch the Incredible for the Eris??
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she isn't a really power user. She mainly uses her phone for managing her calender and checking facebook
The Incredible is a lot of phone for her. She likes the Eris' size and it's pocketability.
Sorry to post yet another +1, but I have to say that xtrSENSE has to be the most stable, consistent sense based rom I have used. As almost everyone has stated so far, that is probably your best bet for her. Battery life is awesome on it, be sure to enable the battery tweak one the rom is flashed, I believe cache2cache also needs to be enabled. That info can be found in the thread.
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Sorry to post yet another +1, but I have to say that xtrSENSE has to be the most stable, consistent sense based rom I have used. As almost everyone has stated so far, that is probably your best bet for her. Battery life is awesome on it, be sure to enable the battery tweak one the rom is flashed, I believe cache2cache also needs to be enabled. That info can be found in the thread.
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Oh, I forgot about the battery tweak. Good info. Cache2cache is enabled by default, though.
Also, it is now up to version 5.0, incorporating the changes in the recent over the air update that came out this month.
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If you want the latest and greatest then you should really check out either one of the Gingerbread roms from Workshed or Tazz. Currently I prefer Worksheds GSB. They are both really stable and quick though. If not one these roms then I would HIGHLY recommend zach.xtr's xtrROM 5.0. That is a really Fast Rom.
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I have to agree with you about Workshed's GSB. The last thing i needed to do is root the wifes Eris and load a ROM that will cause issues. I would never hear the end of it. She is heavily themed and on a stock ROM it was horrible. as soon as I loaded Worksheds GSB she said it was like a different phone. she has never seen it so fast. Now the only other thing I did was install SetCPU and set up 5 profiles to change min and max cpu levels under curtain criteria. I didnt wanna gamble with trying different Kernels. I figured for what she used it for stock was just fine. Its a lot more responsive and she says that battery life has improved. Also, she is still heavily themed on top of GSB. just my 2 cents.
obededom said:
she isn't a really power user. She mainly uses her phone for managing her calender and checking facebook
The Incredible is a lot of phone for her. She likes the Eris' size and it's pocketability.
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I wish I had that problem (having the opportunity for the Incredible being too much phone for me)!
Really the incredible is not pocket-able enough for her? I think you need to get her a purse, not XtrSense! As a Droid X user I think that thing is tiny.
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Really the incredible is not pocket-able enough for her? I think you need to get her a purse, not XtrSense! As a Droid X user I think that thing is tiny.
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Besides, it allowed all sorts of openings for "Is that a phone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" jokes!
Yeah, I don't have an X but the Inc would be small compared to it! I know the Eris is even smaller, but I guess women do have smaller hands.
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Besides, it allowed all sorts of openings for "Is that a phone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" jokes!
Yeah, I don't have an X but the Inc would be small compared to it! I know the Eris is even smaller, but I guess women do have smaller hands.
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro... btw I recommend evil Eris or Ginger tazz v10 much more stable IMHO ...but just try a few and make an educated choice
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro...
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FWIW, according to the specs, the DX is about 3/8" inch longer and almost the same wider compared with an Incredible.
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro...
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Yeah I don't think thats accurate....
Without a doubt flash xtrSENSE immediately. It makes the Eris operate how it's supposed to. I'm interested in GSB... but the stability of xtrSENSE has kept me on it since the day I rooted my phone.
I also installed SetCPU and created profiles as Tenzo suggested in his xtrRCmix rom. The battery life is great. (see below)
She will never even know it's rooted - other than the phone being much more usable.
From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806748
If you use SetCPU, and prefer it over the Battery Tweak, I recommend setting up SetCPU 2.03 next (download from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419 or BUY it from the market). I often get asked about SetCPU settings, so I've included mine (these will make your battery life GREAT and also ensure your phone doesn't get hot enough to cook on):
My SetCPU settings (screen shots below):
748 max (OC over 710 at your own risk!)
245 min
*(set on boot)
Profiles * (Adjust to your liking... this is how mine is setup):
Temp > 43.0 (priority 100) - 480/245
Charging/Full (priority 75) - 748/245
Battery < 20% (priority 50) - 480/245
Screen Off (priority 25) - 480/245
Advanced:
Sampling rate - 2000000
Up Threshold - 60
Ignore Nice Load - 0
Powersave Bias - 200
*(set on boot)
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According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
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This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
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As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
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So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
Eris running GSBv2.1
If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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So, long story short; about this time last year, she decided on the Eris, as she liked the design and feel. It seemed decent in the store, but within a month or so, it bogged down, and at this point, she now uses it for NOTHING more than just a basic cell phone.
With that said, we have been looking at other phones (Thunderbolt), but with money being tight, alternatives are more than welcomed. So, i got to thinking; i am no stranger to modding and rooting, but it is normally my stuff. I am totally in the dark when it comes to what has happened on the Eris's front, and thus my post here.
I know there are roms out there, even some decent GB ones. And i am fairly sure some kernels will allow some overclocking. But for me, in order to really justify wiping her phone, and making her redo all the customizations, i guess i really need to understand just how much (or little) the actual user experience is improved. With a good ROM and overclock, will the phone be noticeably quicker than the the phone as it is now? I know the Arm v6 CPU is quite dated, but is there any hope for this little phone?
Or, should we call it a wash, and be on the lookout for a good used, or a decent new one (though, we hate contracts.. ugg..)? All advice is welcomed!
The default ROM is horrifyingly bad. It's buggy, slow, drains the battery just sitting there... really, just the worst.
Any ROM here would be infinitely better. Battery life will improve, responsiveness goes way up, everything. You might want to stick to a Sense ROM like Nonsensikal for a proof of concept to her, but you can't really go wrong.
Do anything to get her off stock. I'm not kidding.
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Thanks for the advice. I am guessing Nonsensikal is at least Froyo (currently at work, so i don't have more than a few mintues to post... will do more research tonight).
Also, what are people able to get in terms of overclocking? And on the poor old Eris, is it even worth it?
You can generally get 710 safely. That's a pretty big boost from stock. Most ROMs come overclocked, not sure about Nonsensikal. People also seem to like xtrSense, but that's still 2.1.
But like I said, you can't really go wrong. Absolutely anything is better than stock.
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At this point, I think I'd not even bother with any of the Froyo ROMs and just go either xtrSENSE or xtrROM, or go to one of the Gingerbread ROMs. There is an issue with GPS with all of the Froyo ROMs that I know of (after about 20 to 30 minutes of use, the GPS starts getting spurious data; if you are using Navigation, you generally need to reset the GPS radio to get it back on track.) This issue is gone with GSB (and I believe with Ginger Tazz as well.)
xtrSENSE is a good first root ROM, as it is exactly stock with none of the lag issues that plague stock over time.
+1 xtrSENSE. It won't be culture shock for your wife, since it's stock-based, but has overclocking/underclocking/a choice of governors, more memory for apps, I think it has 50% Time Without Singal fix built in.
If she's not a power user hook her up with an xtrRom. But if she is a power user I would highly suggest GSB. Ever since GSB is the only GB rom that is officially supported by CyanogenMod. Our very own Workshed just so happens to be the Eris maintainer as well. Good luck!
DINC|CM7|SLAYHER#27
My wife and I are due for an upgrade in Oct. Heard on Android Forums about Workshed's GSB ROM's. Installed it on mine and my wife's phones, she checked my phone out liked the ROM. She is a Shed fan now. Really gives your Eris a new lease on life. Highly recommend.
Nonsensikal V16.1 Final and Froshedyo V11 Final are stable & reliable, both on 2.2 - and recommended - with many apps via the Market. They are 1 up from the XtrSense and XtrRom.
GSG V2.8 just released is very promising once everything is fine tuned and finalized, turning this little Eris devil into a speeding demon.
To sum it, plenty of juicing up to make this an everyday workhorse with a new lease on life.
Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
Give OMGB 1.1.1 a try. I've been running it for about 5 days now with NO issues whatsoever. Extremely stable and fast.
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Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
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GSB + Launcher Pro Plus sense-like widgets
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+ for xtrsense
i always find myself going back to it no matter what rom i try next fastest and most stable one i found... i don't care much for gb as its slower than froyo imo...it just has more features
We have two Eris phones and installed GSB on both about a year ago, latest GSB 2.8 is very stable and fast.
I installed GSB on both mine and wifes Eris nearly a year ago. The latest GSB 2.8 is very fast and stable. My only complaint is web browsing is still slow to load pages. I have flashed several others and always go back to GSB. My wife was ready to trash her Eris before I rooted it and installed GSB. She gets highly excited when her phone doesn't work right.
xtrSense!
My wife's Eris was getting extremely slow and the battery wasn't lasting a day. Loaded xtrSense and it's made a world of difference.
Loaded widgets and apps back the way she had it and except for some missing data in a few apps and different wallpapers, she couldn't tell any difference in the interface.
The Eris runs much smoother, responds a lot quicker, and battery life is outstanding. Going on 40 hours since last unplugged with moderate use and 57% still battery remaining.
My wife loves it.
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Running GSB overclocked 480-768 Mhz (bit more battery drain but smoothes things out) with V6Supercharge installed (option 6). Runs silky smooth and I'm very happy. Way better than stock!
So I have the Aria... I'm using it as a secondary phone.. got unlocked so when I travel internationally I can use it with foreign SIMs and not carry my Inspire...
I'm trying to decide between ROMs and I am curious what your opinion is for the best for me. On the Inspire I tried the Gingerbread rom, but the battery life was no good... is that an issue with the Aria Gingerbread Rom (CM7?) As well?
I tried liberated, but there are several and I can't really tell the difference between them. Ideally I want the BEST possible battery life, performance is less imperative as I'm only using it for a couple apps\phone calls when I am abroad.
Please advise. Thanks as always!
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So I have the Aria... I'm using it as a secondary phone.. got unlocked so when I travel internationally I can use it with foreign SIMs and not carry my Inspire...
I'm trying to decide between ROMs and I am curious what your opinion is for the best for me. On the Inspire I tried the Gingerbread rom, but the battery life was no good... is that an issue with the Aria Gingerbread Rom (CM7?) As well?
I tried liberated, but there are several and I can't really tell the difference between them. Ideally I want the BEST possible battery life, performance is less imperative as I'm only using it for a couple apps\phone calls when I am abroad.
Please advise. Thanks as always!
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Depends on what is important to you.
CM7 is very nice and a lot of work has gone into it and it feels really nice.
FR008 is also very nice and keeps the HTC Sense feel.
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Depends on what is important to you.
CM7 is very nice and a lot of work has gone into it and it feels really nice.
FR008 is also very nice and keeps the HTC Sense feel.
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Well as I said, battery is the utmost importance, but with Inspire's Gingerbread ROM it lost a lot of battery since it was a poorly ported ROM... is this the case with CM7?
And what do you mean with FR008? Is that the Liberated 2.2.2?
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Well as I said, battery is the utmost importance, but with Inspire's Gingerbread ROM it lost a lot of battery since it was a poorly ported ROM... is this the case with CM7?
And what do you mean with FR008? Is that the Liberated 2.2.2?
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Battery life with CM7 is great. You don't have to worry about it.
FR008 is Liberated Froyo 2.2 while Liberated 2.2.2 is like the name says the version 2.2.2 of Froyo. Battery life with Liberated 2.2.2 is beyond great. I personally use that rom and if you ask me, I wouldn't change it for any other.
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Battery life with CM7 is great. You don't have to worry about it.
FR008 is Liberated Froyo 2.2 while Liberated 2.2.2 is like the name says the version 2.2.2 of Froyo. Battery life with Liberated 2.2.2 is beyond great. I personally use that rom and if you ask me, I wouldn't change it for any other.
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Cool, yeah I'm on the Lib 2.2.2 ... I just like some of the GUI on the Gingerbread OS... hehe... why do you not go to Ginger? Isn't it better to have the latest OS?
Battery life on CM7 is awful.
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Battery life with CM7 is great.
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Nice...
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Battery life on CM7 is awful.
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Not Nice...
So now I'm confused... if someone said it was alright, the other said it was a little bad, I'd feel like it was in the middle, but one person said CM7 is great, and the other said it's awful... so which is it?
Who'd the credible one? lol.
Its not bad honestly I can get the same amount of usage as if I am on liberated 2.2.2
Signatures are fancy.
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Its not bad honestly I can get the same amount of usage as if I am on liberated 2.2.2
Signatures are fancy.
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Cool, thanks for affirming that, that's what I was hoping to hear.
Just out of curiosity, what do you like about Gingerbread vs Froyo. I notice there's a lot of opinions, and some of the visuals are similar, but it seems CM7 doesn't have sense, but besides that, what are your opinions?
Cm7 running stock clock speeds blows my fr008 (stock CPU speed) battery life away.never ran 2.2 overclocked so I can't compare that.çm7 with CPU oc'ed to 806 gives me close to what I had on 2.2 default clock speed.
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Cm7 running stock clock speeds blows my fr008 (stock CPU speed) battery life away.never ran 2.2 overclocked so I can't compare that.çm7 with CPU oc'ed to 806 gives me close to what I had on 2.2 default clock speed.
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Nice. That's perfect for me since I wont OC either. Thanks!
If you look on the CM7 threads, some have massive battery life issues. FR008 has bad life, but 2.2.2 has great battery life; that's an exact port of the AT&T upgrade.
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I used 2.2.2 for a while and I can say that I don't like the lag that comes with sense(updating Widgets, small things like that); stock android just seems smoother + it has more customization and useful features (easier copy and paste, better keyboard, app management, accurate battery meter)
Signatures are fancy.
I cant speak for the Liberated ROMs, but I can say that CM7 has been great as far as battery life for me. I run it overclocked and I still easily get through a day with moderate/heavy usage. So if you dont plan to OC then it should be even better. Another great option is CM6.1 Its Froyo based and I had excellent battery life on that ROM as well.
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If you look on the CM7 threads, some have massive battery life issues. FR008 has bad life, but 2.2.2 has great battery life; that's an exact port of the AT&T upgrade.
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And almost all of those posts seem to have the same name on them, yours.
I'm getting very good battery performance with CM7.
No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
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No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
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Uh, If you say so.
I have posted on several different problems that have occurred while I was using the phone to stream music via BT. Not that BT was necessarily a factor in the problem, but when reporting an issue, it's always important to list how the phone was being used when a problem occurs.
And, I did start a thread regarding BT dropouts that appear to be a problem either with CM7 or my particular phone. That remains to be determined, and is a separate issue.
However, unlike you, I've never continued to rant for weeks about my discontent with CM7 over a single issue. Quite the opposite, I'm loving CM7, and only posting my observations to find out if the issues I'm having are just my problem, or whether anyone else is experiencing the same issue, in hopes of finding a resolution. All with the intent of improving and already GREAT product.
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No, not really. I can go through and post every other person who has posted regarding battery life to make you look like a jackass for trying to be cool if you'd like.
Not to mention you've been complaining about Bluetooth non-stop.
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Hey I actually like seeing posts like this guy's.... while some people dismiss it as a rant, that's what I want to hear, because most of the time it's something someone says in a rant that's good or bad where someone else sees it and says "oh that's good" or "oh that's bad" ... So I do appreciate comments, even if it's one person saying something that's not the norm, it only makes the information community better.
Thanks!
CM7 for the Aria is a pretty great choice, especially for the nice Gingerbread features like improved copy/paste and keyboard.
The battery life is pretty great in standby mode, and it only really starts draining quickly when I'm in an area with poor signal (or, of course, if I mess with it compulsively). And there's also currently the issue with GPS direction being incorrect for navigation, but last I heard they're still working on their homegrown GPS libraries.
So if you don't care about the features of Gingerbread/CM7, CM6 is still a great choice and may actually give slightly better battery life. Personally, the extra features are worth the risk to me.
Cm6 FTW! Still the most stable for me
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im on trigger 3.0.0.1 and i want to switch i either want eugenes "gcr3" and axura
I just went from trigger to CM7 and definitely loving it. I waited until it was stable with good battery life. I highly recommend it
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im on trigger 3.0.0.1 and i want to switch i either want eugenes "gcr3" and axura
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I'm loving Axura. I put the Erebos theme on top, and used the Bali kernel, and it's terrific. Seems speedy, no real lag (maybe a half-second to open Handcent). Everything's smooth. Battery is pretty great. I'm getting 30-ish hours per charge (light-ish use), give or take (I'm at 26% after 18 hrs right now, with 88% of that number display use and 4% cell standby, which I think is pretty good).
I'm running CM7 right now, and it's absolutely amazing.
Except for a little battery drain (will be more until you mess with settings to make it drain less), and the whole GPS thing on GB, it's great.
trigger, bionix, malice and bi-winning . fastest ill say malice and bi with bullet.
Man, if i had a dollar for everytime i saw one of these threads.....
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Man, if i had a dollar for everytime i saw one of these threads.....
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True, but I honestly find them useful in terms of frequency. The developers are doing such great work so consistently often I think it's great to read what people are using from day to day and week to week.
The most major problem I found with ROMs has been a lack of coverage of them. The threads are great to find out what's been updated when, but sometimes there's very little guidance in terms of how updates improve (or don't) usability.
Because, honestly, just up above, I noted my favorite ROM right now is Axura on a Vibrant, but two weeks ago it might have been Bionix or Trigger, and I'm fairly sure the latter two have been upgraded in that amount of time. Plus there's the new Heathen, and Simply Galaxy, and now that Android's up to 2.3.4 it's only a matter of time before that makes it to a Vibrant ROM, most likely.
In other words, instead of commenting on the nature of the thread, why not be useful and contribute? Some of us like to discuss what we're using at any given moment, and some of us flash new ROMs from week to week.
This same topic would have had entirely different comments just last week. The only really possible solution to avoid them would be to create a new sub-forum for each device that included threads reviewing each ROM.
And I, for one, would love such a feature.
I've been using Heathens Private stock 2.2.1. version and its a very good rom. It's beautiful and very smooth even without voodoo.
I like Simply Galaxy RC3.2.1 its a 2.3.3 rom and it's sleek and fast.
I also like it because the install instructions are easy. LOL.
Hi all,
I don't know if my eris is finicky or I just like XTR Rom/XTR Sense, but every 2.2 and up rom I've tried has been much slowed than any XTR rom I've used, BUT I want to use Google Music on my Eris (requiring 2.2 or higher).
So, if anyone can give me suggestions... I've been using GSB 3.4 with Launcher2 (after reading some threads), but it's much, much laggier, even with similar clock settings. I also used nonsensikal froyo awhile ago, but it loved lag and locking up.
tl,dr: looking for the fastest 2.2+ rom
Cheers
It might just be your phone. I also experience everything you have just said. I try other ROM's and do the same settings and everything and I fell that anything over 2.1 is laggier and I get terrible battery life. I always switch back to Xtr Senses. I know its probably not what you want to hear. I also love some of the newer features but it looks like we are the minority on this issue.
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Hi all,
I don't know if my eris is finicky or I just like XTR Rom/XTR Sense, but every 2.2 and up rom I've tried has been much slowed than any XTR rom I've used, BUT I want to use Google Music on my Eris (requiring 2.2 or higher).
So, if anyone can give me suggestions... I've been using GSB 3.4 with Launcher2 (after reading some threads), but it's much, much laggier, even with similar clock settings. I also used nonsensikal froyo awhile ago, but it loved lag and locking up.
tl,dr: looking for the fastest 2.2+ rom
Cheers
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It's hard to say - I find that almost every ROM I run feels about the same speed as any other. That said, Launcher2 is not a fast launcher - you will be much better off with LauncherPro, LauncherPro Plus, ADW, or ADW EX.
If you read through the GSB thread you will see some recommendations for performance which may help. By default the max clock runs at 604 MHz, while xtrROM by deafault runs at 710, so you can try bumping up the max clock (settings->cyanogenmod settings->performance -> CPU settings). Also read up on the supercharger scripts; I suggest number 14 (for the bulletproof launcher).
Others, hopefully, will chime in with other suggestions.
Oh, and now that I think of it - AmazonMP3 seems to run very well on the xtr roms, if I am not mistaken. Buy a single album on Amazon's MP3 store and you get 20 GB of music storage for free. They have that new Lady Gaga album (not song) for 99 cents today; even if her music makes you gag, you get that 20 MB of storage for the next year for 99 cents. Not a terrible deal. Perhaps that will take you through until you can upgrade the Eris to a better phone later on, which will run Froyo/GB far better for you?
Yeah, except I will be running Google Music (2.2 and up only), so heading back to the 2.1 based XTR roms is not going to work... and my upgrade is in another year (cripes!).
What about Zeam launcher? Anyone have any luck with that?
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Yeah, except I will be running Google Music (2.2 and up only), so heading back to the 2.1 based XTR roms is not going to work... and my upgrade is in another year (cripes!).
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Well, that's what I was getting at with Amazon. 20 GB of online storage and you can play music using the Amazon MP3 app from the online storage on the Eris. I know that Google music adds some not-very-good-yet pseudo-genius playlist feature, and 20,000 songs rather than 20 GB, but it's worth a try.
What about Zeam launcher? Anyone have any luck with that?
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I have heard good things about it. It has to be better than Launcher2, and it's free to try.
Assuming you've fully reformat your SD card, wipe system data/cache/dalvik and delete the .android_secure folder while in Recovery mode with USB enabled before (re)flashing GSB V3.4 - mine is using LP 8.6 (upgraded from 8.5) using default 604/480 setting (or 710 max) but not running SuperCharger V6 scripts - only ATK - and everything is fine for me, including GPS, wifi, Android music player, and MMS, etc.
For equally fast GB rom, check out MacRoms and CM's varied GB ROMs (plus Tazz's) - if you do need/use GPS as they don't work on my hardware/configuration at the moment. All of the developers are busy trying to get it "right" with the latest CM release/patches & workaround - just a matter of time before we get to a "Final Release".
On Workshed's GSB V3.4 - I'm getting around 20 hours moderate usage on a full charge, wifi on mostly and sometimes with BT on for driving, and minimal widgets running - not the greatest but reasonable & to be expected with a 1500 mAH hour HTC battery. You might want to try Shed's FroShedYo 2.3.x ROM (it's a Final Release) as I was on that for a while, stable & reliable & quite speedy.
Good luck !
2.2 is and always has been a resource pig.
2.3 has promise, but still has bugs to work out.
The zepplinrox script has given my friend's Eris a new life, but so far GSB is the best thing I've worked with.
Tazz is working on Sense for GB, if I remember correctly. Still WAY early in the stages for that to be stable for daily use though.
good luck finding what you're looking for. Unfortunately, the Eris is only a v6 processor and there's only so far it can go.
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2.2 is and always has been a resource pig.
2.3 has promise, but still has bugs to work out.
The zepplinrox script has given my friend's Eris a new life, but so far GSB is the best thing I've worked with.
Tazz is working on Sense for GB, if I remember correctly. Still WAY early in the stages for that to be stable for daily use though.
good luck finding what you're looking for. Unfortunately, the Eris is only a v6 processor and there's only so far it can go.
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That's not correct.. a lot of people use it as a daily ya a few more kinks to work out but I wouldn't say u can't use it daily .. there are quick fixes for some things .. and no before someone says anything .no I'm not offended just wanted to let u know
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2.2 is and always has been a resource pig.
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Everybody is different, I guess. This has not been my experience, at all. Just as for example, I always get better battery life, all else being equal, compared with the xtr ROMs.
As far as I know, the only major issue with the Froyo ROMs is a bug in GPS/Navigation, where using an app that pulls GPS data for a long time gets confused data coordinates; the Navigation part of Google Maps stops working, for example. You can reset GPS if you do not do this all that often.
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2.3 has promise, but still has bugs to work out.
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It would be helpful to list the bugs, rather than just say that there are bugs. I am running the latest version of GSB and everything seems to be working just fine for me (though I just installed it yesterday and have not tried Navigation yet.) I suppose that there are minor ones, but right now the xtr ROMs are being plagued with a major calendar bug. It has nothing to do with the xtr build, as far as I can tell - it is happening to people running stock as well - but most likely with the changes that Google made to the calendar to fix the data leak on public WiFi networks. But, basically your phone stops displaying events in your primary calendar. And I tend to have occasional issues with xtrSENSE/xtrROM (and stock) not sounding alarm events when they should, or automatically snoozing them (so they go off 5 minutes later) until the event starts.
Thanks everyone, I ended up flashing CELBFroyo (after flashing GSB, GTazz, OMGB, XTRrom/XTRsense, nonsensikal, and a few others) and sticking with it.