According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
Sent from my GSBv1.2 using XDA App
This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
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As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
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So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
Eris running GSBv2.1
If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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okay, so i am running kaos froyo v37 and finally i'm going to switch to a different rom tomorrow. any ideas on what rom runs the best or flush? kaos lags and or has it's issues and i know nothing is perfect but some guys say use sense FroShedYo or xtrSENSE4.6.5
hopefully i don't get too many responses for different roms and get most people saying the same thing....
what rom in your in your experience for the guys who have tried all the roms out there or most of them, which one runs the best and flawlessly with out lagging a lot or maybe never? ??
Tried a few ROMs and found that, for me anyhow, THE best one, hands down, has been FroShedYo. I was running FroShedYo v.10 and ABSOLUTELY loved it. Then I switched to FroShedYo RedGlas v.2 and don't plan on switching...at least until shed gets other ROMs up. But yeah, FroShedYo ROMs are, by far, my favorite.
if you arent using launcher pro that probably explains the lag
We use Kaos 39 and it doesnt lag at all for us. We use go launcher, have setcpu set up and some other tweaks but other than that nothing major. Froshedyo lags at least v8 did.
You could just try a few and see which one you like best thats what I had to do and thats how I got stuck on kaos froyo v39 and just so you know kaos and tazz are both going to be coming out with gingerbread well kaos already does but he is working on fixing the things that dont work on it aka the camera and from what I have heard that doesnt lag either just a thought.
in my experience ive used Koas rom and CelbFroyo, I have stuck with Koas since i liked having android look as stock as possible, and im not a fan of when people change the colors\themes too much. But let us not forget, I applaud the devs here regardless peoples taste, they do a fantastic job. Im begging my programming classes, and we will see if in the near future i can learn (doubt it)
getting back on topic now i want to try shed's
Kinda vague, but wth ....
... "Best ROM that doesn't lag?" ranks right up there with 'What is the best ROM for the Eris?' .... which, admittedly, back when I started to LEARN all things ANDROID and how to implement the mysterious 'ROOT' to my handset, I actually 'googled' that question -(you'll NEVER get a definitive answer !!) .... it wasn't too much later, after reading & researching & reading & searching ... ad naseum ... that I found out that, ultimately, it depends on Y.O.U aka the user !!!
YOU may experience "lag" with a certain ROM simply b/c of your particular customizations (apps, widgets, et al) and settings to that ROM .... also, a ROM that works for someone (and/or others), just may not offer the same experiennce to you. I saw you have DS36 Tweak Thread link > that is a BIG+, also learning from endless reading, searching, researching & FAQ's into things like CyMod 'performance' tweaks and what they 'may' offer you is a great way to go !
After I got over the temporary little 'rooting voids my warranty ?!?!' freak-out, I used this to get me started (KaosFroyo v34) ... it is a little dated, but was very helpful to me ~~>
http://jonsuh.com/2010/09/make-your-droid-eris-faster-smoother-and-increase-battery-life-how-to/
Personally, I have NEVER been a ROM Flashing freak ... I research the handset's forum, notably the 'Development' for ROM's (obviously) .... and after reading through endless pages of threads, I would settle on 1 ROM .... KaosFroyo. Then, after I read/researched & LEARNED more & more .... I tried NonsenSikal.
I stayed w/ Nonsens until his final update - all the while, I'd still avidly research & follow the progress of other Eris ROM dev's & their updates/releases compared to what I had gotten to 'like' ....
ANYWAAAAYS, I finally flashed, only the 3rd, a new ROM .... Vanilla Tazz 20ish and I haven't looked back ever since !! Tazz would be the last to claim any kind of badass DEV status, but he knows what 'he' is doing and he does it VERRRY WELL !!! He is NOT Punk Kaos, most are not ... but my money is on Tazzs' ROM's -I run v28, even though I have v29- Tazz frequently updates, he doesn't release updates w/o a sensibly rigorous testing first !! ~~> not to mention how many projects he has his hands & mind on/into !! VanillaTazz, GingerTazz (VTazz v26), Blackened 2 & 3, resurrected Evil Eris 5^, FloyoTazz ... PLUS +++ all the while, Tazz is working on his own GB & CM7 ROM's as well !!!!]
There is NO second guessing for me because IT WORKS FOR -ME- .... I know Conap really knows his sh*t [CELB], Workshed does great work [FroShedYo] ... even SikYou's Nonsensikal ROM's are still greeeaat, just no more updates ... my fav's were 12.5, 13.2 & 15.2
MY WHOLE POINT BEING ... 'WE' can tell you what works for 'US' ... BUT you gotta find out what works for you !!
WHEW ! ..... Hope that helped a little ?!?!?!?! ...... Oh Yeeeaah, HUGE +1 ON LAUNCHERPRO (PLUS) !!!
I'm a happy camper
I am perfectly happy now, using the latest FroShedYo with Froyo cache2cache
I run way too many apps, and find this combination works well for me. I don't need to move any apps to SD for them to fit in, and the Eris is pretty snappy now.
The Droid Eris can only handle so much. I've found out even with using all the 2.2 ROMs that I've always kept my apps and widgets to a minimum.
-Less widgets I feel that the phone is more snappier
-Less background app updating won't hog too much memory thus the phone can run faster (i.e. weather updates, facebook etc..)
In any case, ROMs are all different in their own ways and each Droid Eris runs differently. I recommend KaosFroyo / CELB / Nonsensikal
For more tips on making your Droid Eris run even faster try one of these links
http://androidforums.com/hero-all-t...tery-life-performance-your-new-shiny-rom.html
http://lifehacker.com/5709148/how-to-speed-up-your-old-sluggish-android-device
It's all in the tweaking.
Try a few different roms. Different kernels, keyboards, launchers.
Explore all menu options. OC and governor options.
If you install/uninstall alot of apps, keep your /cache and /data clean (I find old stuff in there all the time).
Read about build.prop tweaks.
Pay attention to your apps and what they're doing. If something is being a hog in the back ground, find an alternative application.
Delete your bloat. If you don't use it, and it's not a dependency for something else, remove it.
I also move apps that are 'essential' to me to the system partition.
I think I've tried just about all the froyo releases on here and they're all good. Issues always come down to me fubar'ing something.
CELB has always been my go to; FroSHEDyo a close second.
After months of denial, I switched from ADW to LP. ADW is still my favorite, but it lags whereas LP doesn't. Function over form.
Oh yeah, and always run fix permissions. It can iron out the wrinkles most of the time. Its in rom manager or recovery, or from terminal: su <enter> fix_permissions <enter>
"roll your own" froyo-eris v. √-1
FroShedYo, xtrROM, xtrSENSE.
Of course this is all subjective - it probably depends on which apps you run. I run CELB almost exclusively now. I've been rooted since May, and my primary ROMs since then have been:
- Ivan's Official 1.0
- Senseless
- Cyanogen ELB (2.1)
- xtrROM
- Kaos Froyo
- CELB
- Nonsensikal
- Back to CELB
- xtrSENSE 4.6.5 for two solid weeks, to see if I could stay 2.1 stock
- Back to CELB for good
In my experience with all of these, the only ones with any sort of lag after the phone had been running for a while were the full Sense-based ROMs - Ivan's Official and xtrSENSE. I had a few issues with Cyanogen ELB - mostly the occasional random reboot - but really my favorites in this list, and then ones that I think would have minimal lag for the way that I use my phone, are CELB, Nonsensikal, xtrROM, and Kaos.
I was lucky never to have issues with the silent phone bug, and I don't have that phantom call drop issue that some people report with the CyanogenMod ROMs. If I did, I might simply stick with xtrROM. However, the extra battery life with better performance that I get from CELB is what keeps me running that ROM. How you use your phone may be different, but that's what works for me.
Also, what somebody else said is true - it's an Eris, it's definitely not a speedy phone.
i am running launcher pro
i think i might try FroShedYo next
I havent played with 2.1 roms much but for 2.2 (which I've tried most) nonsensikal and floyo tazz are much more consistant and snappier than other 2.2 roms. I dont know if its coincidence but they both happen to be CM 6.1 based opposed to 6.2 like the others.
And Koas Gingerbread is even better just doesn't work yet. I noticed right away angry birds plays much smoother/faster and download speeds are obviously superior too so I'm waiting/hoping the few things left to fix on that (mainly camera) before switching completely.
KF is the best period
What everyone is saying is true really just make sure you're cache/memory is cleaned pretty frequently.
I've been with KaosFroyo since v19 and I've tried every other rom, KaosFroyo has always been the most stable and had less issues. CELBFroyo is a close second and Conap's kernals are the best.
I currently run KaosFroyo V38 (because I've had some GPS issues with v39), then Conap's CFS Kernal V9, GOLauncher EX, CPU Boost by Conap, OC to 729 and my phone runs smoother than ever.
I also use Process Manager Pro as a task killer (the widget and amount of resources it uses I think make it the best).
Cache Cleaner NG is AMAZING too I constantly use it to clear my cache on my phone and SD card.
I every other day go into Settings>Applications>Manage Applications and go through all the apps and clear their cache's individually to clear up memory on my phone.
Also I see you have DS36's thread in your sig, using his guide to move apps from data/app to system/app and deleting unused apps is phenomenal it's made my phone run soooooo much better.
So honestly IMHO KaosFroyo is the most stable, and using the right launcher, phone cleaning tools, and just common sense can make your phone the best it can be.
nothing else to say. . .
Not much else to say, Nonsensikal was my first ROM and i used it for about a month, i switched a few times after that because it was starting to lag but i realize now that that was because of LauncherPro. I'm using KGB now which i absolutely love! its still pretty much in Beta but v9 should be out soon and things should be fixed. it's very stable and very sexy (kaos's stuff just tends to be sexy though i love that splash screen!!). KGB has consistently run more quickly and smoothly than when i did have sense, which i had for a long long time. i didn't root or flash my phone until January of 2011 and received my phone in September of 2009 so i've had a lot of time to hate sense :3
thanks for the tips guys. i'm going to try froshedyo right now i think
b.u.m.p......
nonsensikal
I've been loving nonsensikal since the first moment I tried it. Totally snappy. No more missed calls because the freaking lag is so bad. I've put it on 5+ other people's Erises and they all love it.
It's been almost 10 months on nonsensikal and I still haven't found anything better! I'm actually still on v5.4 because later versions killed my bluetooth tethering. I'll probably stick with it until there's a really stable Gingerbread build.
I am trying to get used to the slight lag that comes with GB. The best launcher HANDS DOWN is not Launcher Pro, but HE-Launcher. It is the fastest launcher you will find, and you can give the GB look to any rom. Plus it changes styles. (NinjaBlur Sense Espresso GB Froyo MotoBlur) If anyone hasn't tried this launcher, TRY IT!
As for the fastest rom, try a 2.1 rom if you can deal with the lack of features. I was sitting on TheCookieRom and it was nice and snappy. Lag free.
I would have to say GSB v1.2 is the fastest right now in my opinion after switching from KaosFroyo v39 to Tazz's cm7 version. GingerShedBread is the way I am sticking right now.
I'm about to buy my wife an Eris.
She (unlike me) does not have Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder, so we are looking for a daily driver ROM. The main thing for her is battery life and stability of the software. She is accustomed to HTC Sense from a previous phone she had (dIncredible) so my question is what is the most full featured, functional ROM available?
How bad is the stock ROM?
are there any gingerbread (I know it ditches Sense) ROM's that are stable enough for daily use?
thanks in advance for your wisdom, guys
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I'm about to buy my wife an Eris.
She (unlike me) does not have Obsessive Rom-flashing Disorder, so we are looking for a daily driver ROM. The main thing for her is battery life and stability of the software. She is accustomed to HTC Sense from a previous phone she had (dIncredible) so my question is what is the most full featured, functional ROM available?
How bad is the stock ROM?
are there any gingerbread (I know it ditches Sense) ROM's that are stable enough for daily use?
thanks in advance for your wisdom, guys
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These, of course, are purely my opinion.
1. xtrSENSE is probably the best bet. Unlike stock, it is overclocked when the processor is being used and underclocked when it is idle, to give better battery life, and the cache2cache feature moves the application dalvik cache to the relatively unused internal /cache partition, giving a lot more space for user apps and data.
2. I've only used stock very briefly for a few days earlier this week (since rooting last May). There was a recent OTA update that is rolling out right now, and without using stock with the update over a long period it is hard to say if the problems that I am about to list are solved. However, stock tends to get a very laggy dialer over time, especially as the call log increases, and you have to stay on top of the text message store as well, as once the number of saved messages reaches a large amount it takes a long time to delete them. When the dialer gets laggy it can also cause answering calls to get frustratingly laggy as well. Again, these may have been solved with the latest release.
3. I've only used GSB myself, but it is extremely stable and has only very minor issues, as I recall. I think if you open the camera and double-tap the display to focus, it will force close the camera, though auto-focus when you take a photo is just fine. Perhaps there are other issues, but otherwise it is very nice. I haven't used Tazz's GB ROM or the TastyBreadBuild; you may want to poke around in those threads, but I am sure that they are equally fine and stable.
However, I really think that the most stable ROM that delivers something that you can count on (plus, the Sense launcher) is xtrSENSE.
xtrSENSE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726467
GSB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944430
By the way, no matter which ROM she uses, I imagine that moving from the Incredible the Eris will feel slow.
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thank you very much. That's exactly the type of info I needed. Props
Totally agree with everything doogald has said! I have tried a lot of ROMs but I always come back to XtrSense as my everyday ROM.
hate to post just a +1, but xtrsense is one of the best if you want to keep sense. The stock is not terrible, but is laggy. Both GSB and GingerTazz are extremely stable. Both have excellent battery life when on standby. However, the screen seems to suck the life out of the battery on the GB roms. After about 12 hours (how long my shifts are) with a few texts and a quick call, light internet use, I generally have between 70 and 80 percent battery on GSB 1.9. The other day, I was getting another replacement eris (notorious trackball issue) and the sales rep was surprised when he told me because the eris has a slow processor, it can be laggy, and I told him I hadn't seen that problem (didn't tell him it was when I was using GB).
+1 xtrSENSE. Also, I've now used both GSB and GingerTazz and I just go with whichever was updated most recently, which ATM is GingerTazz v11.
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If you want the latest and greatest then you should really check out either one of the Gingerbread roms from Workshed or Tazz. Currently I prefer Worksheds GSB. They are both really stable and quick though. If not one these roms then I would HIGHLY recommend zach.xtr's xtrROM 5.0. That is a really Fast Rom.
wildstang83
Why did she ditch the Incredible for the Eris??
I'm still pretty new to the mod community here, but I'm loving GSB so far. It's amazing that there are so many mods and ROMS of Android continually coming out for the Eris, almost seems like it's in defiance of Verizon discontinuing the phone so quickly after its release.
The only ROM I've used before GSB was Nonsensikal 16.1. For me at least, that one seemed really laggy. GSB's been running like a dream, however.
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Why did she ditch the Incredible for the Eris??
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she isn't a really power user. She mainly uses her phone for managing her calender and checking facebook
The Incredible is a lot of phone for her. She likes the Eris' size and it's pocketability.
Sorry to post yet another +1, but I have to say that xtrSENSE has to be the most stable, consistent sense based rom I have used. As almost everyone has stated so far, that is probably your best bet for her. Battery life is awesome on it, be sure to enable the battery tweak one the rom is flashed, I believe cache2cache also needs to be enabled. That info can be found in the thread.
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Sorry to post yet another +1, but I have to say that xtrSENSE has to be the most stable, consistent sense based rom I have used. As almost everyone has stated so far, that is probably your best bet for her. Battery life is awesome on it, be sure to enable the battery tweak one the rom is flashed, I believe cache2cache also needs to be enabled. That info can be found in the thread.
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Oh, I forgot about the battery tweak. Good info. Cache2cache is enabled by default, though.
Also, it is now up to version 5.0, incorporating the changes in the recent over the air update that came out this month.
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If you want the latest and greatest then you should really check out either one of the Gingerbread roms from Workshed or Tazz. Currently I prefer Worksheds GSB. They are both really stable and quick though. If not one these roms then I would HIGHLY recommend zach.xtr's xtrROM 5.0. That is a really Fast Rom.
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I have to agree with you about Workshed's GSB. The last thing i needed to do is root the wifes Eris and load a ROM that will cause issues. I would never hear the end of it. She is heavily themed and on a stock ROM it was horrible. as soon as I loaded Worksheds GSB she said it was like a different phone. she has never seen it so fast. Now the only other thing I did was install SetCPU and set up 5 profiles to change min and max cpu levels under curtain criteria. I didnt wanna gamble with trying different Kernels. I figured for what she used it for stock was just fine. Its a lot more responsive and she says that battery life has improved. Also, she is still heavily themed on top of GSB. just my 2 cents.
obededom said:
she isn't a really power user. She mainly uses her phone for managing her calender and checking facebook
The Incredible is a lot of phone for her. She likes the Eris' size and it's pocketability.
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I wish I had that problem (having the opportunity for the Incredible being too much phone for me)!
Really the incredible is not pocket-able enough for her? I think you need to get her a purse, not XtrSense! As a Droid X user I think that thing is tiny.
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Really the incredible is not pocket-able enough for her? I think you need to get her a purse, not XtrSense! As a Droid X user I think that thing is tiny.
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Besides, it allowed all sorts of openings for "Is that a phone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" jokes!
Yeah, I don't have an X but the Inc would be small compared to it! I know the Eris is even smaller, but I guess women do have smaller hands.
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Besides, it allowed all sorts of openings for "Is that a phone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" jokes!
Yeah, I don't have an X but the Inc would be small compared to it! I know the Eris is even smaller, but I guess women do have smaller hands.
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro... btw I recommend evil Eris or Ginger tazz v10 much more stable IMHO ...but just try a few and make an educated choice
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro...
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FWIW, according to the specs, the DX is about 3/8" inch longer and almost the same wider compared with an Incredible.
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The dx and the dinc are technically the same size bro...
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Yeah I don't think thats accurate....
Without a doubt flash xtrSENSE immediately. It makes the Eris operate how it's supposed to. I'm interested in GSB... but the stability of xtrSENSE has kept me on it since the day I rooted my phone.
I also installed SetCPU and created profiles as Tenzo suggested in his xtrRCmix rom. The battery life is great. (see below)
She will never even know it's rooted - other than the phone being much more usable.
From: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806748
If you use SetCPU, and prefer it over the Battery Tweak, I recommend setting up SetCPU 2.03 next (download from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419 or BUY it from the market). I often get asked about SetCPU settings, so I've included mine (these will make your battery life GREAT and also ensure your phone doesn't get hot enough to cook on):
My SetCPU settings (screen shots below):
748 max (OC over 710 at your own risk!)
245 min
*(set on boot)
Profiles * (Adjust to your liking... this is how mine is setup):
Temp > 43.0 (priority 100) - 480/245
Charging/Full (priority 75) - 748/245
Battery < 20% (priority 50) - 480/245
Screen Off (priority 25) - 480/245
Advanced:
Sampling rate - 2000000
Up Threshold - 60
Ignore Nice Load - 0
Powersave Bias - 200
*(set on boot)
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So, long story short; about this time last year, she decided on the Eris, as she liked the design and feel. It seemed decent in the store, but within a month or so, it bogged down, and at this point, she now uses it for NOTHING more than just a basic cell phone.
With that said, we have been looking at other phones (Thunderbolt), but with money being tight, alternatives are more than welcomed. So, i got to thinking; i am no stranger to modding and rooting, but it is normally my stuff. I am totally in the dark when it comes to what has happened on the Eris's front, and thus my post here.
I know there are roms out there, even some decent GB ones. And i am fairly sure some kernels will allow some overclocking. But for me, in order to really justify wiping her phone, and making her redo all the customizations, i guess i really need to understand just how much (or little) the actual user experience is improved. With a good ROM and overclock, will the phone be noticeably quicker than the the phone as it is now? I know the Arm v6 CPU is quite dated, but is there any hope for this little phone?
Or, should we call it a wash, and be on the lookout for a good used, or a decent new one (though, we hate contracts.. ugg..)? All advice is welcomed!
The default ROM is horrifyingly bad. It's buggy, slow, drains the battery just sitting there... really, just the worst.
Any ROM here would be infinitely better. Battery life will improve, responsiveness goes way up, everything. You might want to stick to a Sense ROM like Nonsensikal for a proof of concept to her, but you can't really go wrong.
Do anything to get her off stock. I'm not kidding.
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Thanks for the advice. I am guessing Nonsensikal is at least Froyo (currently at work, so i don't have more than a few mintues to post... will do more research tonight).
Also, what are people able to get in terms of overclocking? And on the poor old Eris, is it even worth it?
You can generally get 710 safely. That's a pretty big boost from stock. Most ROMs come overclocked, not sure about Nonsensikal. People also seem to like xtrSense, but that's still 2.1.
But like I said, you can't really go wrong. Absolutely anything is better than stock.
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At this point, I think I'd not even bother with any of the Froyo ROMs and just go either xtrSENSE or xtrROM, or go to one of the Gingerbread ROMs. There is an issue with GPS with all of the Froyo ROMs that I know of (after about 20 to 30 minutes of use, the GPS starts getting spurious data; if you are using Navigation, you generally need to reset the GPS radio to get it back on track.) This issue is gone with GSB (and I believe with Ginger Tazz as well.)
xtrSENSE is a good first root ROM, as it is exactly stock with none of the lag issues that plague stock over time.
+1 xtrSENSE. It won't be culture shock for your wife, since it's stock-based, but has overclocking/underclocking/a choice of governors, more memory for apps, I think it has 50% Time Without Singal fix built in.
If she's not a power user hook her up with an xtrRom. But if she is a power user I would highly suggest GSB. Ever since GSB is the only GB rom that is officially supported by CyanogenMod. Our very own Workshed just so happens to be the Eris maintainer as well. Good luck!
DINC|CM7|SLAYHER#27
My wife and I are due for an upgrade in Oct. Heard on Android Forums about Workshed's GSB ROM's. Installed it on mine and my wife's phones, she checked my phone out liked the ROM. She is a Shed fan now. Really gives your Eris a new lease on life. Highly recommend.
Nonsensikal V16.1 Final and Froshedyo V11 Final are stable & reliable, both on 2.2 - and recommended - with many apps via the Market. They are 1 up from the XtrSense and XtrRom.
GSG V2.8 just released is very promising once everything is fine tuned and finalized, turning this little Eris devil into a speeding demon.
To sum it, plenty of juicing up to make this an everyday workhorse with a new lease on life.
Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
Give OMGB 1.1.1 a try. I've been running it for about 5 days now with NO issues whatsoever. Extremely stable and fast.
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Thanks again for the all the advice guys. We are gonna start backing up her stuff, and then figure out which one to go with. The tech in me says the gingerbread roms, but i think she likes the sense widgets, so those may be the ones to start out with.....
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GSB + Launcher Pro Plus sense-like widgets
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+ for xtrsense
i always find myself going back to it no matter what rom i try next fastest and most stable one i found... i don't care much for gb as its slower than froyo imo...it just has more features
We have two Eris phones and installed GSB on both about a year ago, latest GSB 2.8 is very stable and fast.
I installed GSB on both mine and wifes Eris nearly a year ago. The latest GSB 2.8 is very fast and stable. My only complaint is web browsing is still slow to load pages. I have flashed several others and always go back to GSB. My wife was ready to trash her Eris before I rooted it and installed GSB. She gets highly excited when her phone doesn't work right.
xtrSense!
My wife's Eris was getting extremely slow and the battery wasn't lasting a day. Loaded xtrSense and it's made a world of difference.
Loaded widgets and apps back the way she had it and except for some missing data in a few apps and different wallpapers, she couldn't tell any difference in the interface.
The Eris runs much smoother, responds a lot quicker, and battery life is outstanding. Going on 40 hours since last unplugged with moderate use and 57% still battery remaining.
My wife loves it.
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Running GSB overclocked 480-768 Mhz (bit more battery drain but smoothes things out) with V6Supercharge installed (option 6). Runs silky smooth and I'm very happy. Way better than stock!
So! My mother is on the lookout for a new phone, and this guy is cheap on Verizons site. Her phone that she has now, the LG Revolution, has constant freezing issues that irritate her beyond all belief, and because I know Android she dumps them all on me. I'm looking for some questions answered about this phone before I decide if this is the phone for her:
I have read on the Engadget Review that this phone freezes often. After custom ROMs are installed (I'm thinking MIUI), is this problem alleviated?
The LG Revolution has this weird issue where it's way too easy to scroll on it, which makes opening icons on any homescreen app drawer a huge PITA.
I basically need to be able to install ROM, drop it in her hands, and feel comfortable that she's not going to run into any hardware issues with the phone. This includes freezing because of memory issues.
Also, the drop of 4G isn't an issue, it's not in the area anyways.
Thanks guys for your comments and advice ahead of time.
This device pretty much poops on the revolution. That being said my device never froze when it was stock. We have alot of rom options from mtd based roms such as android 4.0 ICS v4, CM7.1 stable, Miui, Tsm pool party...also there are some really good TouchWiz Ginberbread roms such as, Superclean v.5, PWGB, Geewiz etc... I currently am bouncing between cm7 and ICS, but I cant say those are the best roms, they all are pretty good. You will just have to try them and see what your mother likes best.
No freezing problems here, although it does bug out on me with random pressings of the back key. Sometimes the phone will enter screen capture mode and take a screen shot every time I try to power it down. Removing the screencapture apk solves this.
Overall it has been a good phone and has served me well. Gotta love that Samsung display!
I havent had this device for that long, but I love it compared to by old Droid X, mostly due to nicer screen, better battery life, and easier hack-ability.
That being said, I personally am curious on what has been done, if anything, to the LG.
Has it been rooted?
Are you running aftermarket software?
Some freezing issues can be solved by changing ram parameters, others by getting rid of certain bad apps.
I personally would like to see if your problems are actually solvable before getting a new and unfamiliar device, just for S&G's of course
It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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Sebas310 said:
It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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Weird...
Does this happen on multiple ROMs, or just on stock?
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I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Yes he is. Now I know.
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I'm also a fan of SuperClean. Great rom, with none of the AOSP issues that I find to be annoying enough to avoid. If you want to tweak it a bit, add KGB kernel and maybe a different launcher (I like OMFGB-Launcher) and Rom Toolbox will handle just about everything else. This is my setup, no major tweaks (lag fix, etc) other than zram and 1.2 gHz overclock. Fast and stable.
Help a noob out? I have a virgin DX2 - never rooted - freshly updated to 2.3.5 (was in the soak) - and I'm finally ready to root it and try out a ROM. I've been lurking here for a week or so reading & trying to learn all I can about the process - and I think I'm ready to give it a shot.
Obviously Step 1 is to SBF back to 2.3.4 so I can get rooted, but after that is where I'm running into some indecision. I can't decide if I want to go straight to CM7 from there - or follow the instructions to keep root, SBF back to 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.2.
I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
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I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
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I'm guessing you've seen this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632111
Seems to center around Eclipse and CM7 mostly. Eclipse can be a bit more polished in my estimation, mostly due to HDMI, FM radio, less buggy, you know, all the bells and whistles working. For the most part, either way you go you'll be fine.
Currently I have myself and my wife on CM7, we both like it. No real issues to speak of.
I personally perfer CM7RC1 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7RC1
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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I personally perfer CM7 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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This is a fair evaluation of both ROMs but really it all boils down to personal preference and things like if you need HDMI and stuff like that...I personally never use HDMI or the FM radio...but still liked eclipse and that's what I have on my wife's phone albeit its 2.1...I am sure when CM9 comes out she will like to try it...in short flash them both run them for a week or so and see which one you like and go from there
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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The end of your post made my day...
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Just a caution on CM7; I haven't tried the latest release but on the first release the camcorder continuous auto-focus didn't function. It seemed to focus once when you press the shutter button and remain fixed, and sometimes that focus was in error itself. Not a lot of people seem to care about that but my phone has the heavy responsibility of archiving my sons' most important memories for them to look back on when they are older, so I just went back to stock rom. Other than that, CM7 seemed great.
I use CM7RC1 Dual Core Script, Build Prop Mashup, 8 Touch Point Mod, Cron Scheduler, Beats Audio, 3 CDMA Mods. My phone is blazing fast!
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In my experience the beats audio hack ruined my sound quality. Also the dual core script......Our 2nd core boots up automatically when there's a demand for more memory. Dragonzkiller even stated this is the dual core script thread. Keeping both on at all times pretty much only drains your battery faster. Only difference I noticed with it was the home screen animations were a little snappier. Wasn't enough change in performance for the lack of battery IMHO. Just a few things if you go the CM7 route. Never tried Eclipse so I can't help you there.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
Anyways...Eclipse is literally a hair slower than cm7 but it is worlds more stable. Wifi on Eclipse far better than cm7's. Cm7 has some SU issues but they can be fixed by installing Super SU from the market and getting rid of the normal SU app.
Tethering is easier on cm7 is strong -- heat is something you'll have to worry about. I've tethered on Eclipse through the use of a Market app so a little more work must be done there.
Downside to Eclipse is that you must go to 2.3.5 to use it whereas Cm7 is 2.3.4. Battery life on Eclipse is better for me. I've had serious computer trouble this past month and have had to do some research for papers on my phone! With the brightness on full, Gmusic/Pandora/power amp going and internet on my battery would last ~6-9 hours.
I should also mention that I have the Second Core Script going and my battery life took a very small. Not backbreaking but noticeable.
Not going to lie ; your phone will heat up slightly more regardless of the rom you're on when you use the script
Personally I enjoy Eclipse much more than cm7. Blue is my favorite color
Come over to the dark side...
Hmm haven't ran into any sound issues yet. As far as the dual core script I understand the core will activate on demand. The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear. I would only recommend this script for people with the extended battery like me tho.
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The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear.
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Obviously, lol... no "lag" or time needed to boot because its already always on...
Did you use the script editor in ROM toolbox to apply it, sealedfate? If so do you check apply on boot, or do you only use it when you see fit?
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If you have a X2 now I would say you have to try them both. Run one for a couple of weeks do a nano back up and then try the other for a couple of weeks. Then you can decide which you like better. Or you can do like I did and just keep going back and forth every few weeks because you love them both
I have the script in system/ect/init.d so it applies on boot. Helps a hell of a lot with 3D games.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
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Actually, like I said in my first post, I'm been doing nothing but searching and reading on here for the past week or so. Eclipse 2.2 just dropped a week ago, so I was looking for fresh opinions from people who had tried CM7 and that version specifically.
I appreciate all the helpful comments from everyone though. I think I'll do like a few of you suggested and try them both eventually... starting with CM7.
Hopefully we can all add CM9 to the list of ROMs to try very soon!
Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
www.twitter.com/dragonzkiller
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Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
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Yep! I've been following his Twitter feed and the "CM9DX2 anticipation" thread on here. Can't wait to see how it goes. Sounds like he's REAL close!
Success! Following Moon Shadow's instructions to the letter, I successfully SBF'd back to 2.3.4, rooted, and installed CM7 without any problems whatsoever. CM7 is up and running! Just need to get my apps reinstalled and I'll be good to go. Man... you guys weren't kidding. The phone is SOOOO much faster/smoother now, it's not even funny. Should have done this a long time ago.
Thanks everyone!
OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
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OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
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Not sure how anyone might be able to tell you what you might be missing on your phone. It is pretty basic what you get, not a lot of bells and whistles put in by default.
Not aware of a comprehensive list of what you should have exactly.
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