Help a noob out? I have a virgin DX2 - never rooted - freshly updated to 2.3.5 (was in the soak) - and I'm finally ready to root it and try out a ROM. I've been lurking here for a week or so reading & trying to learn all I can about the process - and I think I'm ready to give it a shot.
Obviously Step 1 is to SBF back to 2.3.4 so I can get rooted, but after that is where I'm running into some indecision. I can't decide if I want to go straight to CM7 from there - or follow the instructions to keep root, SBF back to 2.3.5 and install Eclipse 2.2.
I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
TheRaven65 said:
I know both ROMs have their loyal followers and I'm sure either would be a big improvement over stock Blur... and I know it's easy enough to try BOTH of them once I get the hang of all this... but I'd still appreciate some advice about which to try first.
For those of you who've tried both, which do you prefer? What are the pros & cons of each?
Thanks!
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I'm guessing you've seen this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632111
Seems to center around Eclipse and CM7 mostly. Eclipse can be a bit more polished in my estimation, mostly due to HDMI, FM radio, less buggy, you know, all the bells and whistles working. For the most part, either way you go you'll be fine.
Currently I have myself and my wife on CM7, we both like it. No real issues to speak of.
I personally perfer CM7RC1 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7RC1
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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S3AL3DF4T3 said:
I personally perfer CM7 its a solid daily driver very minor issues and I never get bored with it. Here's my overview of both ROMs.
CM7
Pros:
Extremely Smooth.
Lots Of Mods/Tweaks.
Endless Customization.
Gingerbread 2.37
Theme Engine.
Wifi Tethering
Fully AOSP.
Toggles.
Cons:
HDMI Mirroring Is Unsupported.
FM Radio Is Unsupported.
Bugs:
Data Triangle. (Fixed By Reboot, *228)
Battery Exclamation. (Fixed By Reboot)
Some Experience Wifi Connecting Issues. (Fixed By Manual Connect)
Eclipse 2.2
Very Smooth.
Few Mods/Tweaks.
Limited Customization.
Gingerbread 2.35.
Flashable Themes.
AOSP/BLUR Hybrid.
Toggles.
Cons:
Lack Of Customization.
Is Only Gingerbread 2.35.
No Tethering.
Bugs:
Some Experience Wifi Resetting. (No Fix ATM)
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This is a fair evaluation of both ROMs but really it all boils down to personal preference and things like if you need HDMI and stuff like that...I personally never use HDMI or the FM radio...but still liked eclipse and that's what I have on my wife's phone albeit its 2.1...I am sure when CM9 comes out she will like to try it...in short flash them both run them for a week or so and see which one you like and go from there
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I have tried out every x2 rom under the sun and as of right now I think your best bet is cm7. I would recommend running the cm7 mash up script, along with the dual core script, because with both of these the res is flawless.
but of course, I think you should try both of them out because it is personal preference. And if we get cm9 here soon then we will all be happy little cracked out, flashed up, ics'd whores with everything we can dream of for the x2, with some extra feta cheese.
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The end of your post made my day...
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Just a caution on CM7; I haven't tried the latest release but on the first release the camcorder continuous auto-focus didn't function. It seemed to focus once when you press the shutter button and remain fixed, and sometimes that focus was in error itself. Not a lot of people seem to care about that but my phone has the heavy responsibility of archiving my sons' most important memories for them to look back on when they are older, so I just went back to stock rom. Other than that, CM7 seemed great.
I use CM7RC1 Dual Core Script, Build Prop Mashup, 8 Touch Point Mod, Cron Scheduler, Beats Audio, 3 CDMA Mods. My phone is blazing fast!
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In my experience the beats audio hack ruined my sound quality. Also the dual core script......Our 2nd core boots up automatically when there's a demand for more memory. Dragonzkiller even stated this is the dual core script thread. Keeping both on at all times pretty much only drains your battery faster. Only difference I noticed with it was the home screen animations were a little snappier. Wasn't enough change in performance for the lack of battery IMHO. Just a few things if you go the CM7 route. Never tried Eclipse so I can't help you there.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
Anyways...Eclipse is literally a hair slower than cm7 but it is worlds more stable. Wifi on Eclipse far better than cm7's. Cm7 has some SU issues but they can be fixed by installing Super SU from the market and getting rid of the normal SU app.
Tethering is easier on cm7 is strong -- heat is something you'll have to worry about. I've tethered on Eclipse through the use of a Market app so a little more work must be done there.
Downside to Eclipse is that you must go to 2.3.5 to use it whereas Cm7 is 2.3.4. Battery life on Eclipse is better for me. I've had serious computer trouble this past month and have had to do some research for papers on my phone! With the brightness on full, Gmusic/Pandora/power amp going and internet on my battery would last ~6-9 hours.
I should also mention that I have the Second Core Script going and my battery life took a very small. Not backbreaking but noticeable.
Not going to lie ; your phone will heat up slightly more regardless of the rom you're on when you use the script
Personally I enjoy Eclipse much more than cm7. Blue is my favorite color
Come over to the dark side...
Hmm haven't ran into any sound issues yet. As far as the dual core script I understand the core will activate on demand. The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear. I would only recommend this script for people with the extended battery like me tho.
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The thing is this only happens when the CPU becomes so over tasked by processes it create a short lag before kicking in. This script makes that laggy transition disappear.
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Obviously, lol... no "lag" or time needed to boot because its already always on...
Did you use the script editor in ROM toolbox to apply it, sealedfate? If so do you check apply on boot, or do you only use it when you see fit?
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If you have a X2 now I would say you have to try them both. Run one for a couple of weeks do a nano back up and then try the other for a couple of weeks. Then you can decide which you like better. Or you can do like I did and just keep going back and forth every few weeks because you love them both
I have the script in system/ect/init.d so it applies on boot. Helps a hell of a lot with 3D games.
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Why do these keep popping up...the search bar is definitely not be used...
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Actually, like I said in my first post, I'm been doing nothing but searching and reading on here for the past week or so. Eclipse 2.2 just dropped a week ago, so I was looking for fresh opinions from people who had tried CM7 and that version specifically.
I appreciate all the helpful comments from everyone though. I think I'll do like a few of you suggested and try them both eventually... starting with CM7.
Hopefully we can all add CM9 to the list of ROMs to try very soon!
Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
www.twitter.com/dragonzkiller
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RoyJ said:
Dragonzkiller is currently working on the CM9 release for DX2! Keep up to date on his twitter page
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Yep! I've been following his Twitter feed and the "CM9DX2 anticipation" thread on here. Can't wait to see how it goes. Sounds like he's REAL close!
Success! Following Moon Shadow's instructions to the letter, I successfully SBF'd back to 2.3.4, rooted, and installed CM7 without any problems whatsoever. CM7 is up and running! Just need to get my apps reinstalled and I'll be good to go. Man... you guys weren't kidding. The phone is SOOOO much faster/smoother now, it's not even funny. Should have done this a long time ago.
Thanks everyone!
OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
TheRaven65 said:
OK, it appears that I spoke too soon. I realized soon after that the Google apps did not get loaded on my phone (Gmail, Maps, Nav, YouTube, etc.), but some of the other apps in that same ZIP file DID get installed (Talk). Also, my old background pic was still on the phone.
I was able to download/install the missing Google apps without any problem and they all work perfectly (including Nav from the car dock) - and everything else has been running flawlessly. The phone is very fast & smooth... no bugs... not a single force close or reboot yet after fairly heavy use for the last couple of days.
So... obviously something didn't go perfectly with my install, but as far as I can tell, everything is fine with the phone. How can I tell if I'm missing anything else? Should I just keep what I have or SBF back to 2.3.4 and start over again? I'm perfectly happy with it right now - but maybe I don't know what I'm missing.
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Not sure how anyone might be able to tell you what you might be missing on your phone. It is pretty basic what you get, not a lot of bells and whistles put in by default.
Not aware of a comprehensive list of what you should have exactly.
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According to other users in the GSB v1.2 thread, they're getting speeds better than any Froyo they've used. I've done all of the suggested steps, including following the install instructions to a T, and "JIT on, home in memory, Comp cache RAM 18% default, heap size 24m,CPU 245/768." However, I'm still finding that it's noticeably slower than Nonsensikal 16.1. I can see lag in scrolling menus, scrolling in the browser, and typing on the keyboard. Am I doing something wrong, or should I just wait for CM7 to get more mature and try again?
Could be a number of things; number of apps running, types of apps you run, leaky memory app, how many widgets, excess cache, GPS and BT on, how you use your phone, leftover data from sdcard, which governor you're using.
Hiccups are to be expected. Are you lagging all the time? After exiting a particular app?
Apples to apples is kinda difficult to assess, especially on something that is measured subjectively.
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This is based on my immediate impression after a fresh install of the rom, and has more to do with the speed and responsiveness of the UI than with apps. I can see some lag, particularly window animations and keyboard responsiveness, as soon as I install. I did a full wipe of data/cache/sdcard before installing GSB.
After I tweaked some things like bumping up the CPU max speed, setting smartass governor, and just letting it "warm up" for a while, it does run faster. Still not quite as fast though.
I suspect things will get better with later releases of CM7... I'll wait and try again in a bit.
Well yeah. Most Froyo roms are 710Mhz by default, GSB is 578Mhz.
So just clock for clock, its slower.
But no one installs a custom rom only to leave it at default. Tweak man, tweak! Leave no setting unturned.
For comparison sake, install an early version of Kaos gingerbread.
Or compare an early Froyo.
What alot of people are excited about is, as a 3rd release of a brand new rom, it should be practically unusable. But its totally stable and smooth enough for an everyday OS.
I find performs better than Froyo in most every way. There's room for improvements and bugs to fix, but CM7 has been out on the Eris for less than a week. And the. CM team is a ways away from an official stable release.
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
KFroyo had the same responses even though until about rev21 it was pretty slow and buggy.
You're just immune to the placebo.
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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It's probably the fact that when new roms are released here members always say "this is the fastest rom ever"
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LOL
And usually within only the first hour of using it.
Same thing with flashing radios - "OMG, I can't believe how much better my signal is." (Not.)
Well, it's the internet; it is what it is. Come one, come all.
strayed from the path, master
Hungry Man said:
As for waiting. Yes. Wait. I'm not flashing any CM7 ROMs for a few more releases because I'll just end up wiping between every update and it's not worth using right now anyway.
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I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
We are using an experimental release of an experimental release on hardware that is not supported. It's pretty dam impressive!
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Word. Totally agree!
I agree with your choice b/c it was my choice, too ... but when WiFi got working I caved & I spent the better of an entire day trying to figure out issues that the dev is not having, nor can he replicate them ... lol !! I am kicking myself for straying from my usual zen-like approach to the 'HOT, FRESH, NEW, BETTER, FASTER, SMOOTHER, SNAPPIER' (ad nauseum) ROM, but CM7 was different (to me) - I got anxious to try it, to see what those CyMod geniuses have worked so hard on .... annnd now I am returning to a SUPER-STABLE FROYO ROM ... for the time being ..... LOL
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Haha yeah, that's me too Back to Nonsensikal 16.1 (so fast!!!) for the time being. I'm psyched to check out GSB again in a few weeks though, as I was extremely impressed over all!
I only find the Home Screens' loading the gadgets slowly, the rest of the interface is amazingly stabled and fast for 1.2 release.
BTW: what I did found weird is the Dialer. The buttons outline does not show up?
Is this just the built or a bug?
bump.
anything?
1.2 Seriously?
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So I'll take a stab... while the earlier comments are valid (placebo effect by those trying new ROMs) I have to say GSB feels significantly quicker to me that the 2.1 ROM I was running.
You need to let a ROM settle down before knowing how responsive it is. I usually use it for an hour or two, then reboot. After a reboot or two, all seems settled down, the apps re-downloaded and installed, the links all set up and so forth. So if you're interested in trying gingerbread, install GSB (now version 2.1) and use it for several days at least before making a judgment.
Eris running GSBv2.1
If you can do without the animations I would say just turn those off and cut your home screens down to three. Personally when I had an Eris I only ever had one screen. And I only ever had one widget which was my weather and toggle flip clock. Also I noticed that if I ever did kick the CPU past 604 it would get a bit laggy. Shed told you in the OP his Rom was optimized for 604. Basically I've noticed with these GB roms is if you don't need it or ain't gonna use it then turn it off or remove it. Obviously you know, YOU know, lol that no Rom will be quick out the box. You gotta give them time and restart a couple of times to get everything leveled out.
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For those of you who have used both of these outstanding ROMs on your MoPho, which one do you prefer and why?
Both are great ROMs. I am currently on cm7. I am really liking cm7. Its fast and battery life is outstanding. Downside to cm7 is you do need to edit build.prop to get youtube working. Also have to edit apn to get mms working. Fixes are easy to do though.
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i agree with above. both are great and will wake up your photon like no other. when it was all said and done, i picked CM7 bc thats what i ran on my EVO and was just more comfortable with it. personal preference really. neither will let you down.
I'd personally go with skinnyrev1. But I've been running CM7 for a long time on my evo shift and got bored with it. But if you have never ran CM7 before on any of your devices then its worth a try. But for the photon I'd go with skinnyrev1.
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Both are great ROMs. I am currently on cm7. I am really liking cm7. Its fast and battery life is outstanding. Downside to cm7 is you do need to edit build.prop to get youtube working. Also have to edit apn to get mms working. Fixes are easy to do though.
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Does CM7 include the 1% battery mod and is the battery life better than stock?
CM7 actually works ok now? Its by FAR my favorite (the only thing I miss from my EVO really).
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CM7 actually works ok now? Its by FAR my favorite (the only thing I miss from my EVO really).
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yes, CM7 works very well. others along with myself feel the build is better then many of the EVO ones. I have no complaints.
can you please help, im running cm7 how do i do that?
I'm also running cm7, its a great, looks nice, and well its cm7 whats more to say
What advantages does CM7 have over Skinny?
Im using skinny with undelvolt and im fascinated... i wanna give a try to cm7 but when i flashed keep looping in boot animation...
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yes, CM7 works very well. others along with myself feel the build is better then many of the EVO ones. I have no complaints.
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Really? I haven't really seen anything other than the Alpha builds. Everything works? The Evo worked great (minus 4g, but I don't live in a 4g area anyway). I can only imagine how fast it is. My Photon runs only a little faster than my CM7 evo.
Which build are you guys running?
I am loving life on my CM7 ROM. Not a big fan of Motoblur, so wanted to try something new. To be honest though...this is my only ONLY ROM that I have tried so can't offer anything new to the conversation other than I have had few problems from it. On reboot, I get a single phone.apt error that once dismissed, doesn't bother me again. The MMS issue is NOT an issue on mine...I send and receive picturemail daily and have not had any issues with that. I wish the built in buttons for the zoom on the camera app worked, but they don't...yet. Have to use the apps slider to control zoom. The Wifi is qwerky at times. I sometimes have to FORGET a known network, turn off Wifi, turn it back on...then reenter login info's to get a reconnection on a previously working wifi accesspoint that I use...but...just a minor annoyance. Considering it is still technically in alpha...it is very usable and stable...I say go for it!
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Im using skinny with undelvolt and im fascinated... i wanna give a try to cm7 but when i flashed keep looping in boot animation...
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How does one undervolt and what advantages does it provide?
Gack69 said:
I am loving life on my CM7 ROM. Not a big fan of Motoblur, so wanted to try something new. To be honest though...this is my only ONLY ROM that I have tried so can't offer anything new to the conversation other than I have had few problems from it. On reboot, I get a single phone.apt error that once dismissed, doesn't bother me again. The MMS issue is NOT an issue on mine...I send and receive picturemail daily and have not had any issues with that. I wish the built in buttons for the zoom on the camera app worked, but they don't...yet. Have to use the apps slider to control zoom. The Wifi is qwerky at times. I sometimes have to FORGET a known network, turn off Wifi, turn it back on...then reenter login info's to get a reconnection on a previously working wifi accesspoint that I use...but...just a minor annoyance. Considering it is still technically in alpha...it is very usable and stable...I say go for it!
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I havent had any issues with wifi, got work, home, parents home, and two friends houses in college station. 5 networks total. is it the same router that you are experiencing this trouble or is it the same across all routers?
but to anyone that is in question between the two, dont base ur selection off others, its gonna boil down to your preference. its gonna be 50/50 based on reviews. best thing you can do is flash one and play around with it, then make a backup, flash the second one and see if you like it better or not. Still make a backup of the second in case you want to move back again. Thats the great thing about Android, its your choice
since you have it narrowed down between just these two, youre in a good situation. alot better then flashin all day to see what you like the best.
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Does CM7 include the 1% battery mod and is the battery life better than stock?
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I've been pretty happy with SkinnyRev1 as a daily driver. I'm currently on CM7 testing the new 1.3OC. My phone hates the 1.4 kernels for some reason and on CM7, even with the modfied APN mms is very sketchy. I can send just fine but when I receive a message, that message gets repeated over and over again every couple of hours (sometimes minutes) until I get sick of it and restore my Skinny nandroid.
I've had it happen with several versions of this alpha and cannot seem to get it to stop once it happens. Deleting the thread does nothing, I just get a notification a little later that I have a new message. I've even gone from several of the yay leaked sbfs straight to CM7, skipping skinny altogether and still have the same mms issue
Well I haven't tried skinny rom but cm7 is awesome very stable been my daily driver for about 2 weeks and love it. Very smooth and fast. I had cm7 on evo 4g and needed it on this. it's very customizable (real word?) U can change lockscreen add gestures change overall color and much much more I feel like a spokesman for cm LOL but seriously give it a try u wont b disappointed
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If it helps my eventual goal after i finish some other projects would be cm7 with webtop. I might start work on it tonight actually. Ive been with cm since it started on the g1. Once kinks are worked out its definitely preferred. I made skinny because we didnt have any alternatives and my friend likes blur, lol.
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If it helps my eventual goal after i finish some other projects would be cm7 with webtop. I might start work on it tonight actually. Ive been with cm since it started on the g1. Once kinks are worked out its definitely preferred. I made skinny because we didnt have any alternatives and my friend likes blur, lol.
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Well, if YOU are saying CM7 is the way to go (once the kinks are worked out) then that settles it for me. Thanks!
So! My mother is on the lookout for a new phone, and this guy is cheap on Verizons site. Her phone that she has now, the LG Revolution, has constant freezing issues that irritate her beyond all belief, and because I know Android she dumps them all on me. I'm looking for some questions answered about this phone before I decide if this is the phone for her:
I have read on the Engadget Review that this phone freezes often. After custom ROMs are installed (I'm thinking MIUI), is this problem alleviated?
The LG Revolution has this weird issue where it's way too easy to scroll on it, which makes opening icons on any homescreen app drawer a huge PITA.
I basically need to be able to install ROM, drop it in her hands, and feel comfortable that she's not going to run into any hardware issues with the phone. This includes freezing because of memory issues.
Also, the drop of 4G isn't an issue, it's not in the area anyways.
Thanks guys for your comments and advice ahead of time.
This device pretty much poops on the revolution. That being said my device never froze when it was stock. We have alot of rom options from mtd based roms such as android 4.0 ICS v4, CM7.1 stable, Miui, Tsm pool party...also there are some really good TouchWiz Ginberbread roms such as, Superclean v.5, PWGB, Geewiz etc... I currently am bouncing between cm7 and ICS, but I cant say those are the best roms, they all are pretty good. You will just have to try them and see what your mother likes best.
No freezing problems here, although it does bug out on me with random pressings of the back key. Sometimes the phone will enter screen capture mode and take a screen shot every time I try to power it down. Removing the screencapture apk solves this.
Overall it has been a good phone and has served me well. Gotta love that Samsung display!
I havent had this device for that long, but I love it compared to by old Droid X, mostly due to nicer screen, better battery life, and easier hack-ability.
That being said, I personally am curious on what has been done, if anything, to the LG.
Has it been rooted?
Are you running aftermarket software?
Some freezing issues can be solved by changing ram parameters, others by getting rid of certain bad apps.
I personally would like to see if your problems are actually solvable before getting a new and unfamiliar device, just for S&G's of course
It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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It is rooted, and even after messing with the ram settings tweaked it still freezes. The other problem is that it dies way quickly, even with JuiceDefender and a calibrated battery. She's only had it for a week, so she's not yet settled on that one's ways.
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Weird...
Does this happen on multiple ROMs, or just on stock?
pma7779 said:
I've had this phone for almost two years now and I've never had it freeze up on me. Install the SuperClean3 ROM. Solid ROM for that phone. I currently have ICS but for your mother's phone use SC3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350621
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Hes talking about his mom's LG, not a Fascinate...
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Yes he is. Now I know.
~This is going to take crackerjack timing, Wang.~
I'm also a fan of SuperClean. Great rom, with none of the AOSP issues that I find to be annoying enough to avoid. If you want to tweak it a bit, add KGB kernel and maybe a different launcher (I like OMFGB-Launcher) and Rom Toolbox will handle just about everything else. This is my setup, no major tweaks (lag fix, etc) other than zram and 1.2 gHz overclock. Fast and stable.
I couldn't find an answer to this after searching, and I really wasn't sure which is better, so I'm just going to ask.
Eclipse or CM7? Pretty straight forwards... please say why also! Thanks in advance.
You can not go wrong with either one. Both are great and are solid daily drivers. If you need HDMI then eclipse is for you. Cm7 is blazing fast and has so many options for themes and the theme Chooser. But eclipse also has great themer's as well. I would recommended having nano back up of each and go back and forth and see what fits you best. But you will really enjoy both.
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I agree, both of them are known to be solid ROM's - each with their advantages and disadvantages...
HMDI I've never even used, and don't plan on it. Many things people have a "problem" with are things that I don't use, such as HDMI, GPS (seldomly use), etc.
Right now I'm flashing Eclipse 2.1.
What I did is run one for a few weeks and get it running how I like. Then nano back up and then try another for a few weeks. Get it like you want and do another back up. At one time point I had several roms backed up. Now I stick with eclipse and cm7. If you have never used cm7 it is something you should run at some point. It is blazing fast and you can customize everything. It will take you weeks to figure out all the settings.
even though I run CM7 now, I would say eclipse is an overall "better" rom in terms of supporting all the phone's features and being stable, like rock solid stable (was more stable than stock motoblur, and a bazillion times faster)
I would definitely call CM7 a beta, it has bugs, you learn to live with them.
My favorite overall so far was eclipse 1.3rc2
Eclipse FTW
I've been on both ROMs recently and I would have to say that they are both superior to any thing else out there. I'm on the latest ROM for eclipse and all I can say is that this is fast... very fast on the DX2. You can't go wrong with either ROM, it comes down to HDMI support and then your preference.
CM7 definitely fastest but went back to eclipse for hdmi, stability and nuance voice control. Still have some problems with eclipse but allot less than cm7. One drawback of eclipse is 2.3.5 kernel, so when nandroiding have to sbf to switch roms.
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I use eclipse 2.1 on my X2. I had previously use CM7 for a month before switching. Yes CM7 is much faster, but Eclipse is more stable and has less bugs.
It's all about personal preference.
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What I did is run one for a few weeks and get it running how I like. Then nano back up and then try another for a few weeks. Get it like you want and do another back up. At one time point I had several roms backed up. Now I stick with eclipse and cm7. If you have never used cm7 it is something you should run at some point. It is blazing fast and you can customize everything. It will take you weeks to figure out all the settings.
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+100!! I think this is the best option. Try them both out, and back them up. I am running CM7 and love it. Yes, it's lightning fast, but that isn't even my favorite feature. I prefer its customization overall. It has bugs, as a beta will, but I haven't experienced any that are deal breakers for me.
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Great deal of help to me (and I'm sure others).
Right now I'm running Eclipse 2.1 (I previously had Eclipse 2.0.2). From what I've seen so far I can notice a speed improvement overall, some updates and GREAT stability; much better than even the stock.
Later on I'll try out CM7, but I'm just worried about all the bugs it has... I'm sure it's nothing, but I'd rather have slightly less performance and stability. Either way, I'm still going to try it out sometime soon. Thanks again for all your feedback.
Also, I'm not into nandroid backups at all.. or any backups. I'd rather do a clean slate EVERY SINGE TIME. I don't have a ton of apps, so I can get it all back, along with my settings very easily. Just and FYI for you all.
EDIT: Also, just to clarify things - along with give people other information; I will be writing a FULL review of each ROM. Note that many of this will contain personal opinions and such, but it will greatly help people overall with info about them.
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CM7 definitely fastest but went back to eclipse for hdmi, stability and nuance voice control. Still have some problems with eclipse but allot less than cm7. One drawback of eclipse is 2.3.5 kernel, so when nandroiding have to sbf to switch roms.
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I felt the same way about sbf and re root not a huge deal but yes extra time. I heard people had luck with 2.04 on 2.3.4. I had to try and all was working well. Have not tried that with 2.1 but do a nano back up first just in case and remember it is not recommended but it has worked for quite a few people just not sure for 2.1.
Miui works on 235/412 and I nanded to cm but did not stay long but wifi worked.
I've been using an X2 (that I got last year) for a while now, as a Wi-Fi device. It started out great, but these days it tends to take ages for it to respond to or carry out any action. I don't mean to be unhelpfully unspecific, but I mean that EVERYTHING lags - the launcher, the browsers, the Twitter app, the Play Store, the camera app, the lock screen ...
But what makes this truly baffling is how inconsistent it is. Once in a while, the device will actually start feeling pretty responsive. I can even play some (relatively) intense games (such as Riptide GP), given time to settle.
In mid-June, I finally tried using a custom ROM - Eclipse 2.3, to be specific; since I'm still unused to messing around with this specific phone and was already on 2.3.5, Eclipse seemed like an obvious choice. (The fact that I can still record 720p30 video, something other ROMs claim to have issues with, certainly helped.)
Anyway, I thought wiping and using a new ROM, free of bloatware, would solve the lag issue - but one month later, the X2's performance is falling behind even lesser-spec'd phones, like my Incredible, despite a fairly lightweight software loadout and finding no clear culprit when I look at wakelock monitors and task managers.
I almost want to say that the real cause of the lag is something that fstrim could fix - y'know, if fstrim could actually do its thing on the X2. But judging by LagFix, it can't.
I don't suppose any enthusiasts are still around who mind helping me solve this problem?
1 the dx2 is getting old
2 have you looked at your battery and or charger both can cause issues.
3 v6 supercharger may help some should be a link to my how to in my list sd_shadow's (themib) [Collection] of Links for Droid X2.
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I suggest a new phone...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+Google
My guess is that motoblur is a very poorly optimized skin. Eclipse still has some blur in it iirc which is why it's not that much faster than stock. I was running eclipse until I switched to CM7 because I was tired of my phone being so unresponsive. If you want to try out CM7, you're gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.4 which isn't any more complicated than flashing a new rom. Now I can actually use my phone without wanting to throw it against a wall.
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1 the dx2 is getting old
2 have you looked at your battery and or charger both can cause issues.
3 v6 supercharger may help some should be a link to my how to in my list sd_shadow's (themib) [Collection] of Links for Droid X2.
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bad bone said:
I suggest a new phone...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+use+Google
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Even at the time of posting, I already had a RAZR M as my primary phone. I still like to mess around with older phones, though, while I'm at home and reading news or such.
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My guess is that motoblur is a very poorly optimized skin. Eclipse still has some blur in it iirc which is why it's not that much faster than stock. I was running eclipse until I switched to CM7 because I was tired of my phone being so unresponsive. If you want to try out CM7, you're gonna have to sbf back to 2.3.4 which isn't any more complicated than flashing a new rom. Now I can actually use my phone without wanting to throw it against a wall.
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Being lazy, and unwilling to sacrifice camcorder abilities, I've avoided CM7 for a while on the X2.
Now I have enough devices to not worry about lacking a camcorder with enough space. So I might give it a shot.
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Being lazy, and unwilling to sacrifice camcorder abilities, I've avoided CM7 for a while on the X2.
Now I have enough devices to not worry about lacking a camcorder with enough space. So I might give it a shot.
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Camcorder works for me on CM7.
I totally understand and love flashing my old devices
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Camcorder works for me on CM7.
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Ah, whoops. Seems I was remembering that issue from a CM9 ROM for the phone.
Guess my only excuse is laziness, then.
As SD_shadow suggested, try v6 supercharger. When I had my x2, it increased the benchmark score by a couple thousand.
From your symptoms, (responsive sometimes and laggy as heck others) it sounds like a rogue app is eating up precious processor %. V6 may help in keeping that app out if the RAM, as it does mess with min free and also the priority of what type of apps to keep
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