[Q] Add New Apps for Webtop [Gimp, Thunderbird, etc...] - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I would like to get more than just Firefox on the webtop. A few applications in particular:
Mozilla Thunderbird
Gimp (or equivalent)
OpenOffice (or equivalent)
If I can get these three applications installed, I could fully function without a PC nearby all the time. I have very little Linux background beyond loading up a build and playing with the applications that were already installed. Any information will be appreciated. Anyone think this can be done? Memory limitations is all that I see really standing in the way. I doubt this will be even up to par with most netbooks as far as multi-tasking...

It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.

I want chromee!

SS2006 said:
I want chromee!
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As others have pointed out, ya ain't getting Chrome. Source code isn't available for it. The best you can get would be Chromium, but the earliest Ubuntu packages available for that are for 10.04, and we're running on a 9.04 base. It'll be painful to do that upgrade, and there are no guarantees on what would work after that.
But, if you're willing to do the work, I'll happily cheer you on!

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Sogarth said:
It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.
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Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platform, but I'd like to start building things from source.

agentdr8 said:
Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platfom, but I'd like to start building things from source.
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I've not built one out yet since I haven't needed to yet (especially since I'm trying to tackle a different problem first). That's not to say that I won't eventually need to, though.

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Sirry for posting in development area. I thought it was more a develomental question...
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Sirry... Ment "sorry"
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Anyone looking to throw on Windows8 or Ubuntu!?

I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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really? another thread about this?
to answer this so it can be locked or merged:
1. let's stop speculating about an OS which is at least 7 months if not a year out (for ARM) techincally windows will be able to run, but getting it to run is going to depend on a lot of things we don't have details about.
2. ubuntu should be portable, it's going to depend on the bootloader to a fair degree as to how easy it is to do.
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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yungballla6 said:
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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To be fair, you are like the 10th person to ask this question about a separate OS then the one it comes with. The answers is no one knows. Just like no one knows if Win8 will be worth a damn.
Windows 8... maybe, but there's an awful lot of unknowns there.
I'd love to have the Prime dual-boot with a Linux distro though, and that seems quite feasible (though the bootloader is an unknown; I have faith in XDA though!). That really would make it into a full netbook.
yungballla6 said:
Well someone needs to take a breath lol. I was just wondering.
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in the time it took to open this thread you could have found that it has already been covered.
in this day of instant information, it just irks me when people don't take the time to find what's already there.
yungballla6 said:
I was just wondering hoe many people would like to run windows or Ubuntu on this beast of a tablet. I can't wait to see some development on this thing!
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Idk about win8 (like others have said there's a thread for that) but as for linux, many devices have been able to boot Ubuntu and bt5 on top with root using chroot and androidvnc. I'm sure it will work considering I've run both on my g2x. There's a thread here on xda for those but currently at work and don't have efficient access to that link. Think its in the nexus s forums?
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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Im more excited about the possibilities of ICS than anything. Its different in many ways to whats out there (ginger and HC). I think there are more possibilities with stock ICD ROM than ports of any other kind. Maybe in 6 months, IF the flavor runs out, I MIGHT think going that route. But honestly, why????
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not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
zedklind said:
not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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If your a hacker or linux based nerd, then I get Ubuntu. power is king in code crunching. But Windows? Anyone needing windows on the move is 90% working. I dont think you need that much power for that.
If i could boot a windows 8 install off an SD Card in the dock i would be alllllllllllll about that.
i want to put the blackberry playbook OS on it, but emulated inside ICS, and then i can run android apps, emulated through the playbook OS, which is emulated through android. possibly while running an snes emulator.
it's going to be so meta, and you all will be so jealous. :|
There are many threads about Windows 8. The Prime has the Tegra 3 chip which will be supported in Windows 8 and most likely several Linux flavors. We'll see. No let's stop discussing this for the next couple months.
zedklind said:
not as a permanent solution... backtrack5 is a pentesting distro... with the right drivers/nics, the prime can become a HACKPAD :-S
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best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
benzas said:
best comment ever!!!! love backtrack, also looking forward to get tf prime.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMAZING DEVICE!! (much better than my girlfriend )
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
Will you be able to run MS excel with VB editing and running it if/when prime gets Win 8?
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well im studying both networking and pentesting, why not be able to do everything i need on one device? just need drivers for my awus036h (or maybe the wifi chip has support for monitor mode which is very unlikely :/ )
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same here.
At the moment the solution that worked for original Transformer and phones was ok but I would love to actually boot it off a usb drive or SDcard and not have to run the GUI over VNC.
Although Backtrack devs have said that the ARM image released is only for testing and they wont be supporting it. Hopefully they start to fully support it as tablets become more powerful.
Hey does android run on this thing?
/sarcasm
Windows 8 Thread from NOVEMBER: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1365283
What? Microsoft missed their mark here. I don't see them making a dent on the tablet market that it's rival Google has a hold of.

Help on getting started with App Development?

I would like to develop my own application, I've gotten my feet wet in programming in java and a little c++ but I want to learn everything I can.
Also maybe are there compiling tools available directly on Android?
Can anyone get me started?
Much thanks for people who help.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
tedr108 said:
I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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thank you very much! i just recently decided i want to become a developer and possibly a get a degree in computer science. (im stilll young, luckily i got time to do this) and so im very new to all this. ive been rooting and flashing for 2 years, but never have created anything. so thank you for taking your time to answer me, regardless of my noobness
I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I may PM you tonight, I'll see if I can get that tip calculator to work. Thanks!
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Ubuntu running on Atrix ?

YES, I already know we can run it using chmod and a VNC... But, now that Nvidia has released the Linux (NOT ICS) drivers, would it be possible to install Ubuntu on the Atrix as main OS ? The Ventana (Atrix' Tegra 2 chip) is listed in the compatible devices, but I'd never be able to know how to flash this. Also there's a pretty good news inside this page : "Ventana is now the reference Tegra 2 chip"...
http://developer.nvidia.com/mobile/linux-tegra
Finally, I truly insist on the fact that I know these are not the drivers we're looking for. But it's still pretty cool, and I think we should pay some attention to this... We're not getting ICS/JB but Ubuntu is still pretty cool.
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YES, I already know we can run it using chmod and a VNC... But, now that Nvidia has released the Linux (NOT ICS) drivers, would it be possible to install Ubuntu on the Atrix as main OS ? The Ventana (Atrix' Tegra 2 chip) is listed in the compatible devices, but I'd never be able to know how to flash this. Also there's a pretty good news inside this page : "Ventana is now the reference Tegra 2 chip"...
http://developer.nvidia.com/mobile/linux-tegra
Finally, I truly insist on the fact that I know these are not the drivers we're looking for. But it's still pretty cool, and I think we should pay some attention to this... We're not getting ICS/JB but Ubuntu is still pretty cool.
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This would requiere a new bootloader for the Atrix, not just compile it and flash it right away.
Ubuntop
TravisAntonio said:
This would requiere a new bootloader for the Atrix, not just compile it and flash it right away.
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Hi.
I use this with my atrix. Requires you stay back with a non CM Gingerbread Rom. But it works great. It is fast, and it unlocks a full Ubuntu Jaunty distribution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726916
Give it a go. Work with NoattachTrix, MaxBlur, and a few others.
If you try it and don't like it. Back it all up, and then you can visit it again in the future.
Best Regards,
Seth
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Hi.
I use this with my atrix. Requires you stay back with a non CM Gingerbread Rom. But it works great. It is fast, and it unlocks a full Ubuntu Jaunty distribution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726916
Give it a go. Work with NoattachTrix, MaxBlur, and a few others.
If you try it and don't like it. Back it all up, and then you can visit it again in the future.
Best Regards,
Seth
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He's not talking about webtop. He means linux exclusively, no Android at all. Technically, yes it should be possible. Nobody's done any work to make it happen though. Desktop linux on a 4" screen isnt exactly the most appealing idea.
Jotokun said:
He's not talking about webtop. He means linux exclusively, no Android at all. Technically, yes it should be possible. Nobody's done any work to make it happen though. Desktop linux on a 4" screen isnt exactly the most appealing idea.
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Exactly but it is not such a bad idea since we can use it with the lapdock or dock also the HD2 has its own ubuntu, i know 0.3" is a difference but it can work out anyways

What can I use the Lapdock for, now that I am on CMx?

The good old Smiley, to make the reading happier:
I am looking for suggestions.
What could I use my Lapdock for, now that I made the switch to CyanogenMod?
Is there a good solution for making the VNC'ed ARM Ubuntu (look for Ubuntu Installer in the Play Store) work better with the touchpad? Should I sell it? Is there a solution to make remote control apps such as TeamViewer or Splashtop integrate with the Lapdock's keyboard and touchpad? Is there any way to make the device switch to Tablet mode without rebooting? That would be rather interesting to see. By the way, the CM9 ROM I am currently running has got Landscape HDMI working flawlessly, so that should not be an issue...
PS: Please do not ignore this thread. Any suggestions are welcome! (Use your common sense though)
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I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
Paranoid Android Rom
I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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aaron.a;[URL="tel:31083061" said:
31083061[/URL]]I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
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Cocolopes said:
you can use it as a gift....for me!....
from the (m)ATRIX...
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Made me laugh out loud!
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kurtcocaine said:
I've struggled with the same question on my photon.. If there's working hdmi rotation on your CM, you can still use it for typing out documents,etc. I also used the mirror mode to watch movies on a larger(than phone) screen in bed.
But eventually I just decided to go back to a blur rom and use ubuntop (which is awesome) while waiting for official ICS and someone hopefully porting ubuntu 12.04 to webtop..
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Currently, I use it for watching movies as well, and I am looking forward to pairing a Wii Remote and/or a DualShock® 3 to my Atrix™, so that I can play some games such as GTA III and Shadowgun (Max Payne *-*) on the big screen.
I was happy with Blur until the day I ran into that tempting CM9 thread. I did not know what smoothness and responsiveness really were. Blur was the smoothest I thought it could ever get... But I was wrong, and now I have to choose between fluidity and Webtop. :thumbdown:
I actually went back to Blur some months ago, but unfortunately, prolonged use of ICS can cause dependence. Believe it or not, I was pretty happy with Blur. Webtop was working flawlessly, I even had BackTrack installed, but then came the relapse: I could no longer resist to ICS. I am now back to CM9, and with it comes my dilemma...
I am looking for a way to use the Atrix™ as a more desktop-ish platform when docked (especially to the Lapdock). I believe the ideal would be Ubuntu through a local VNC client, or a remote desktop app, I just wish they would play nicer with the keyboard and touchpad...
Basically, something like a key mapper (easy-to-use, I am still unable to figure out WiiMoteController's key mapping scheme) for Lapdock's hardware. We could make a keyboard-powered Ouya!
What still concerns me though, is that games would not be optimized for it e.g. Minecraft PE, games where the camera angle for example, is controlled by dragging the screen, so it would have to be a really powerful, but easy-to-use key mapper, and since you can't have everything in life, I'm afraid I'm asking for much...
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Paranoid Android Rom
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What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I don't understand why canonical hasn't leaked that awesome ubuntudroid system they showed off.. there isn't an easier way to get feedback especially since webtop has died and windows 8 is pushing hard into that whole 'blur the lines' market
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When the official Ubuntu for Android was announced, even though an Atrix 2 was used for the hands-on part, on the project's official hotsite... It was clearly an Atrix™ 4G standing there on the dock. The differences between our device's design and the Atrix 2's or the Defy's (Defy+'s) are not that obvious, but they are, indeed, noticeable.
You do know what that means, don't you? It means it is almost certain that our device will be on the first batch of officially supported devices!
I don't if the Atrix™ is still there, but if it's not, I can try to find the screenshot I took if you'd like.
I am so proud! :beer:
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Maybe they are waiting for the unified linux/android kernel 3.4 this would most certainly make it easier to port and updates trivial.
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What do you mean? It would have to be ported to each supported device anyway, wouldn't it?
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Hello friend, I did the same thing you did, go back to blur....but now I am stuck in the original ubuntop, I mean I can not install all the apps needed to be a fully working laptop....could you help me with it?. I can not understant the steps in the webtop original thread.
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I have never thought I'd say this but, "Please don't get off-topic". I'd appreciate it if this gets settled in a new thread or via PM.
Anyway, you said "stock UbunTop", I could be wrong, but I think it's either stock or UbunTop, which is a mod born right here on our neighbor forum, Android Development.
If yours is really stock, I suggest you get BackTrack from the BackTop project, I don't it's got aircrack built-in, and I was unable to install it, so unless you're an experienced hacker, don't get too excited with BackTrack's features, but my point is: It is amazingly faster than Webtop, it seems lighter, I used to be able to run more than 3 different apps simultaneously...
If yours is really running UbunTop I'm afraid I cannot assist you, since webtop2sd never worked for me and BackTop and WebtopMOD were the only I could ever manage to get working on my device...
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you can use it as a gift....for me!....
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Hahaha
Nice one. I'll think about it though... Hehe
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gabriel_feo said:
What I understand from your reply is that the Paranoid Android ROM could put my Lapdock back to use. But what is the Paranoid Android ROM? What makes it different from other ROMs? How could it (at least partially) solve my problem?
Please be more specific.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I can answer this. What he meant is that you should use Paranoid. Paranoid is a rom thats an hybrid of a phone an a tablet, in short words, you can activate tablet mode for some apps, while some other apps still run in phone-mode, for the ease of use.
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Random Canadian said:
What I actually meant was to give a name and a designation, which I did.
Google paranoid android rom and you get the website, the website has a much better explanation then I could or should have to provide.
But yes in short it can give you a tablet UI on lapdock.
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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I did before you guys answered and after I posted my reply, and was about to post an apology to you, my friend (Random Canadian).
Sometimes my brain takes just way too long to figure some things out...
I am sorry.
Anyway, thank you very much! This might just solve it all!
>>>>> But even if it works for me, please don't stop sharing your ideas! <<<<<
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So no gift for me? ... hahaha... just a joke... glad you solve it...
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Is it possible to get paranoid android on the lap dock in native resolution?(1376)

Note 3 + Ubuntu Touch

I am currently in the process of building a Note 3 Rom of Ubuntu Touch. I have the experience with Ubuntu and Linux Development to do this, but I would like non-monetary support, like volunteers to find bugs. I'm using a rom based off of stock, minus KNOX (here) so it should work fine.... but that's never a guarantee. I will be testing this ROM myself, but I want to find every bug possible.
If any developers would like to get some addons in here, pm me. I would like to make this as useful as possible.
When CM11 100% functional source code is released, I will rebuild this off of it. I do want to include the best I can into this.
This will be based off of MJE, so, if there could be a person or two to hold back from updating, and trying this out, I would owe you sooo many cookies. I mean, MOUNTAINS of cookies. This voucher is redeemable, alternatively, for a lake of Caramel or an Ice Cream Storm.
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The Cyan text is invalid. Upon rereading sources, it will not matter what rom I use.
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This project will be postponed until the completion of the CM11 Note 3 source code.
I would love to help test!
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I would love to help test!
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please don't take offence, but have you played with custom roms before?
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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Thank you! Would you mind listing some Ubuntu apps you would like to have included in it? I will already include a couple for testing purposes, but I want to make this enjoyable and useful, after testing
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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Also will this be the dualbootable android and ubuntu touch buikd?
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As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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well, unfortunately, I can't build it yet, unless you don't mind not having root. I know where to download the stock source code, but I found out that root access would not be a given, even with as little Ubuntu takes from Android. Not to mention, it's a lot easier with the CyanogenMod source.
I will make sure to get all the extended basics. Notepad++, Terminal, basic utilities, media utilities, a file manager, and others. I'll put an app of my own for feedback purposes. Ubuntu Touch is supposed to have the Play Store, so, if I miss something you want, no problem.
I think, when I have my first completely stable build, I'll move on to building a developer's build, including support for programming environments. Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
If anyone can build an app, I have an idea for the way the interface designer would work. PM me.
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Thank you for asking. That sparked the thought on how to re-package this for distribution. Before, I was going to have everyone adb it into their phone, as per the documentation that exists for Ubuntu Touch. However, it would be easy to just zip it all, then transfer and install. To adb it is to just make sure it's clean, but I can make sure that it happens clean via certain adjustments.
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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ktetreault14 said:
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll go ahead and start building it then. I was thinking that there would be not-so-much interest in a non-rooted version. As far as using the CM code, that would give root and the most ease of building. Using Stock gives a guaranteed driver support, however, I am not too sure if KNOX is integrated into the parts that Ubuntu would take from the code. I'll have to research it a bit. I won't bother if KNOX will be pulled in too.
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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ktetreault14 said:
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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No need, and it wouldn't work anyways. All CM11 source is currently not 100% stable, therefore, I don't know if it will work properly with Ubuntu. I'm grabbing the source directly from Samsung.
Oh I see. Will this build be able to switch between android and ubuntu, or was that only for Nexus?
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mobile-power-monger said:
Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
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Frank Westlake said:
We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
Frank
SGH-I717(AoCP6.4), SM-N900V/MI9(dlV), XDA Premium
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Would it be too much to ask to make 1 build of old and new and then continue building on whichever you see like to more? Just to try it out, lol if its to much dont bother
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Ubuntu Touch Dying???
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back. Maybe we could turn Ubuntu into a Powerhouse Platform, by creating Ubuntu apps that utilize the power of the Note 3.
N3 has the power to run a sql server and apache, if it's only for a small network. Imagine, being able to make a site for your your friends only, and being able to manage it like a full server, however, you'd have no fees (unless you want a domain, but even then, there are free domains).
Going on this idea, if a sql db is on a mobile device, there is less risk and more ability to control access (ie. turn on airplane mode to disable it)
The N3 could be used as a file distribution spot. You could have an automatic broadcasting of a particular file. All newer galaxy phones could just access it from the wifi direct menu. What an easier way to hand out flyers?
We need to think of ways to utilize the power of the N3 and the simplicity of the Ubuntu Touch SDK. A dump trucks can carry a lot of feathers.
I, personally, dislike using C++ for app development (Thank GOD for Java), but I will do it for this project.
I need more ideas, but please take time to make a list, instead of 1/post
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Eerrrmm... I'm a 100% sure that Ubuntu touch uses the cm kernel. That's why you need a Developer edition device. It's the only one that can flash kernels So if the following statement is true. Then this can't run the 99% of the Verizon note 3s correct?
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mobile-power-monger said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Awesome. Im ready to start flashing, im gonna start reading up on my ubuntu touch and check it out. Also does abyone knkw if im in ubuntu touch and I hook up hdmi out to my tv does it go into desktop mode? Or is that onky with a dock
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I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back.
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I read (on Android Central, I think) that Ubuntu Touch development was being suspended for all devices, except Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (original). Maybe that's why......

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