I am currently in the process of building a Note 3 Rom of Ubuntu Touch. I have the experience with Ubuntu and Linux Development to do this, but I would like non-monetary support, like volunteers to find bugs. I'm using a rom based off of stock, minus KNOX (here) so it should work fine.... but that's never a guarantee. I will be testing this ROM myself, but I want to find every bug possible.
If any developers would like to get some addons in here, pm me. I would like to make this as useful as possible.
When CM11 100% functional source code is released, I will rebuild this off of it. I do want to include the best I can into this.
This will be based off of MJE, so, if there could be a person or two to hold back from updating, and trying this out, I would owe you sooo many cookies. I mean, MOUNTAINS of cookies. This voucher is redeemable, alternatively, for a lake of Caramel or an Ice Cream Storm.
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The Cyan text is invalid. Upon rereading sources, it will not matter what rom I use.
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This project will be postponed until the completion of the CM11 Note 3 source code.
I would love to help test!
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I would love to help test!
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please don't take offence, but have you played with custom roms before?
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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ktetreault14 said:
I would definitely test on a tmobile note 3 and I definitely have experience
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Thank you! Would you mind listing some Ubuntu apps you would like to have included in it? I will already include a couple for testing purposes, but I want to make this enjoyable and useful, after testing
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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Also will this be the dualbootable android and ubuntu touch buikd?
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ktetreault14 said:
As long as you throw in the basic stuff. All I need is a browser, file manager, music player. You can pick. Im just ready to test
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well, unfortunately, I can't build it yet, unless you don't mind not having root. I know where to download the stock source code, but I found out that root access would not be a given, even with as little Ubuntu takes from Android. Not to mention, it's a lot easier with the CyanogenMod source.
I will make sure to get all the extended basics. Notepad++, Terminal, basic utilities, media utilities, a file manager, and others. I'll put an app of my own for feedback purposes. Ubuntu Touch is supposed to have the Play Store, so, if I miss something you want, no problem.
I think, when I have my first completely stable build, I'll move on to building a developer's build, including support for programming environments. Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
If anyone can build an app, I have an idea for the way the interface designer would work. PM me.
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Thank you for asking. That sparked the thought on how to re-package this for distribution. Before, I was going to have everyone adb it into their phone, as per the documentation that exists for Ubuntu Touch. However, it would be easy to just zip it all, then transfer and install. To adb it is to just make sure it's clean, but I can make sure that it happens clean via certain adjustments.
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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ktetreault14 said:
I'll test out even though it doesn't have root. Nice to know I can use play store. Even with cyanogenmod code there is no root? Cant wait to test
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I'll go ahead and start building it then. I was thinking that there would be not-so-much interest in a non-rooted version. As far as using the CM code, that would give root and the most ease of building. Using Stock gives a guaranteed driver support, however, I am not too sure if KNOX is integrated into the parts that Ubuntu would take from the code. I'll have to research it a bit. I won't bother if KNOX will be pulled in too.
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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ktetreault14 said:
Do you need the source for cm11. I there is a link for it in the tmo thread
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No need, and it wouldn't work anyways. All CM11 source is currently not 100% stable, therefore, I don't know if it will work properly with Ubuntu. I'm grabbing the source directly from Samsung.
Oh I see. Will this build be able to switch between android and ubuntu, or was that only for Nexus?
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mobile-power-monger said:
Imagine being able to build an app on your phone, without a computer. A bluetooth keyboard would be necessary, but I think many would be interested.
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We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
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Frank Westlake said:
We can build applications with AIDE, but it is pay-ware with a disabled free version. I'm anxiously waiting for someone to build an equivalent freeware application.
There has been a bluetooth virtual keyboard out for a few years.
This won't require a developer's phone will it?
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Would it be too much to ask to make 1 build of old and new and then continue building on whichever you see like to more? Just to try it out, lol if its to much dont bother
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Ubuntu Touch Dying???
I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back. Maybe we could turn Ubuntu into a Powerhouse Platform, by creating Ubuntu apps that utilize the power of the Note 3.
N3 has the power to run a sql server and apache, if it's only for a small network. Imagine, being able to make a site for your your friends only, and being able to manage it like a full server, however, you'd have no fees (unless you want a domain, but even then, there are free domains).
Going on this idea, if a sql db is on a mobile device, there is less risk and more ability to control access (ie. turn on airplane mode to disable it)
The N3 could be used as a file distribution spot. You could have an automatic broadcasting of a particular file. All newer galaxy phones could just access it from the wifi direct menu. What an easier way to hand out flyers?
We need to think of ways to utilize the power of the N3 and the simplicity of the Ubuntu Touch SDK. A dump trucks can carry a lot of feathers.
I, personally, dislike using C++ for app development (Thank GOD for Java), but I will do it for this project.
I need more ideas, but please take time to make a list, instead of 1/post
mobile-power-monger said:
No, this will not require a developer's phone. Just the knowledge to install a custom rom. And as far as AIDE, I will ask them if they would do a promotional by including the key in this rom. I will offer them the idea-work for a pet-project that I abandoned a year or so ago. It might appeal to them.
As far as switching between Android and Ubuntu, that was for the older versions of Ubuntu Touch. Originally, Ubuntu Bootstrapped on top of Android, but that was battery inefficient. Now, it's built on top of of the Android core.
Upon looking further into the differences between the first version and the current, I have sadly discovered that Android apps are no longer supported. I could use the first version, as it is still available, but that would make the build far larger than it has to be. After the completion of this project, I will ask someone to continue upgrading, while I move on to building Ubuntu apps for as many Android apps as I can. However, there are a great deal of Ubuntu apps already made.
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Eerrrmm... I'm a 100% sure that Ubuntu touch uses the cm kernel. That's why you need a Developer edition device. It's the only one that can flash kernels So if the following statement is true. Then this can't run the 99% of the Verizon note 3s correct?
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mobile-power-monger said:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
Please share this link with your friends with other devices
I think it would be smarter to do one version at a time
Also, here is the Ubuntu App Directory
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
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Awesome. Im ready to start flashing, im gonna start reading up on my ubuntu touch and check it out. Also does abyone knkw if im in ubuntu touch and I hook up hdmi out to my tv does it go into desktop mode? Or is that onky with a dock
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I had checked the Ubuntu Touch repo a while ago, but it seems to not be much larger..... we need to bring it back.
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I read (on Android Central, I think) that Ubuntu Touch development was being suspended for all devices, except Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 (original). Maybe that's why......
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I would like to get more than just Firefox on the webtop. A few applications in particular:
Mozilla Thunderbird
Gimp (or equivalent)
OpenOffice (or equivalent)
If I can get these three applications installed, I could fully function without a PC nearby all the time. I have very little Linux background beyond loading up a build and playing with the applications that were already installed. Any information will be appreciated. Anyone think this can be done? Memory limitations is all that I see really standing in the way. I doubt this will be even up to par with most netbooks as far as multi-tasking...
It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.
I want chromee!
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I want chromee!
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As others have pointed out, ya ain't getting Chrome. Source code isn't available for it. The best you can get would be Chromium, but the earliest Ubuntu packages available for that are for 10.04, and we're running on a 9.04 base. It'll be painful to do that upgrade, and there are no guarantees on what would work after that.
But, if you're willing to do the work, I'll happily cheer you on!
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It can be done. It's just a matter of doing it cleanly, which at least I'm working on. Although trying to run Gimp on this hardware... that's gonna suck.
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Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platform, but I'd like to start building things from source.
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Sogarth, do you have a cross-compiling environment setup that you can share? So far I've just been locating debs already compiled for the arm platfom, but I'd like to start building things from source.
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I've not built one out yet since I haven't needed to yet (especially since I'm trying to tackle a different problem first). That's not to say that I won't eventually need to, though.
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Sirry for posting in development area. I thought it was more a develomental question...
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Sirry... Ment "sorry"
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I would like to develop my own application, I've gotten my feet wet in programming in java and a little c++ but I want to learn everything I can.
Also maybe are there compiling tools available directly on Android?
Can anyone get me started?
Much thanks for people who help.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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Download the Android SDK and the ADT Plugin for Eclipse from here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html. After I got it all running, I found a nice little Android Development Tutorial online and went to work (it was probably on this same site). Eclipse is a little slow on Windows, so I switched to an Ubuntu machine, but that is not a must.
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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sorry if this is noob, but did you dual boot or run it in a VM? would either be sufficient? or would an actual dual boot be better?
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I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
tedr108 said:
I made a dual boot machine. VM works well for many -- definitely a good option to be able to play around with Linux to see if you like it. For development purposes, I thought it better to get the best performance, thus the dual boot system.
I have the need to move my development machine often, so I did my research and got a laptop that is very compatible with Ubuntu -- many are not. It has all worked out very well to this point.
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thank you very much! i just recently decided i want to become a developer and possibly a get a degree in computer science. (im stilll young, luckily i got time to do this) and so im very new to all this. ive been rooting and flashing for 2 years, but never have created anything. so thank you for taking your time to answer me, regardless of my noobness
I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I recently got started with developing for Android, and using the Android SDK with eclipse is definitely a great way to get started. I would recommend making a simple application that does some type of math function.
If you have developed in Java before, it will be pretty easy to get started with Android. I common first app is a tip calculator. If you get stuck or have any questions, google is your best friend. Also, you can always PM me, I have been looking for people to develop with.
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I may PM you tonight, I'll see if I can get that tip calculator to work. Thanks!
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Update 5/13/13 - This is DerTeufel1980's thread for the kernel which works for both AOSP and TW. Dual-boot is not yet working yet though. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
FYI - DerTeufel1980 had a solid kernel working fairly quickly and has since worked on the recovery mods to allow installing two ROMs, etc. He has been working through a few items such as USB only working for charging, etc. He is making progress though.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Galaxy line (Captivate, etc). With our help, he has been able to purchase a Note II to work on and I have been updating this thread with donation promises.
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II will be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. He and I have committed a fair amount of $ to make this happen so if you feel inclined to help out then it would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38121246&postcount=27
$200 loan for now. - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
PAID - $10 - rayandreas
PAID - $50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
PAID - $29 - btpd21
PAID - $25 - Jamice4u
PAID - $10 - Shinkinrui
PAID - $5 - muqali
PAID - $10 - rlee008
$5 - kingP1n
$5 - deviusdragger
$5 - lovekeiiy
PAID - $15 CDKJudoka
PAID - $5 ristiisa
PAID - $10 Grant Barker
** After the kernel is working - $100 - PhxDroid86
** After the kernel is working - $20 - Markor13
** After the kernel is working - $15 - trevor7428
** After the kernel is working - $30 - kashortiexda
Update 5/25 - DerTeufel1980 has spent a while perfecting a universal kernel that works on AOSP and Sammy ROMs. The thread is here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
He had to work out some bugs that prevented troubleshooting the dual-boot problem. However, he recently returned to the dual-boot problem and has solved it. He has been able to dual-boot with AOSP as primary, Sammy as secondary and vice-versa. He is still fixing some recovery issues, etc but is hopeful that the release will be available tomorrow. This turned out to be much more challenging than other phones but that is probably why nobody else has accomplished it until he had a device to work on...
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Recognized developer and thanks don't really stand for much anymore.
There is a dev on another phone considered recognized and with way more thanks than that, and he so far has had two phones I know of handed too him and he possibly stole work on the first and released nothing but completely stock AOSP that took him months to make on the second phone while we had RIL and CM10 long before he got to the phone.
The above is why I don't donate until after work has been created anymore. If it is a dev I've seen produce I'd consider it.
I for one hate these.
Said my 2 cents.
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nosympathy said:
Recognized developer and thanks don't really stand for much anymore.
There is a dev on another phone considered recognized and with way more thanks than that, and he so far has had two phones I know of handed too him and he possibly stole work on the first and released nothing but completely stock AOSP that took him months to make on the second phone while we had RIL and CM10 long before he got to the phone.
The above is why I don't donate until after work has been created anymore. If it is a dev I've seen produce I'd consider it.
I for one hate these.
Said my 2 cents.
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I included the post where he produced a dual-boot kernel. I understand you must have been burned in the past. However, please do a bit of research before stating something so negative that does not apply in this particular instance. Nobody else (that I have seen) has produced a dual-boot kernel for a phone. He could easily decide to get a completely different phone so we would lose the benefit of his work on a phone we have. He can't provide the benefit without the phone to work on. I'm not trying to start a flame-war. I just think a lot of people would like this capability.
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Up to 310 now
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RichMD said:
I included the post where he produced a dual-boot kernel. I understand you must have been burned in the past. However, please do a bit of research before stating something so negative that does not apply in this particular instance. Nobody else (that I have seen) has produced a dual-boot kernel for a phone. He could easily decide to get a completely different phone so we would lose the benefit of his work on a phone we have. He can't provide the benefit without the phone to work on. I'm not trying to start a flame-war. I just think a lot of people would like this capability.
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I am just not a fan of these period. I've never been burned. I refuse to donate for work undone.
This other dev had work done in the past. Proof of work.
Not to say this dev isn't worth having, I just refuse to donate to work not done.
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There are also rules about this, specifically not doing it. I get you want it done, but I don't see the developer even coming in here and showing interest. That is a cause for concern.
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There are also rules about this, specifically not doing it. I get you want it done, but I don't see the developer even coming in here and showing interest. That is a cause for concern.
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What rules are you talking about? No moderator has sent any PM and I'm sure the threads have been seen at this point.
I will ask DerTeufel1980 to post in the thread if that makes a difference. He posted in the AT&T thread that I started with.
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What rules are you talking about? No moderator has sent any PM and I'm sure the threads have been seen at this point.
I will ask DerTeufel1980 to post in the thread if that makes a difference. He posted in the AT&T thread that I started with.
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I am not going to pull up the precise verbiage, as you can do that. However there are explicit rules for no donations on work unseen. There have been many a fiery thread in this forum on that very detail and each one was closed. I don't care either way but if you want to alleviate people's concerns, get the dev to come in here and show interest and then get moderator approval for the thread. Don't be surprised if it gets shut down though.
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I am not going to pull up the precise verbiage, as you can do that. However there are explicit rules for no donations on work unseen. There have been many a fiery thread in this forum on that very detail and each one was closed. I don't care either way but if you want to alleviate people's concerns, get the dev to come in here and show interest and then get moderator approval for the thread. Don't be surprised if it gets shut down though.
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Hi, What do you want me to ask?
Of course I am interested in this project. Otherwise RichMD would not have opened the thread.
As I wrote in the other thread, i was going to get me a nexus 4 within the coming months. If RichMD would not have asked, I would not have thought about the note 2.
Regarding dual boot, it took me nearly 2 month, to figure out how all the things need to be modified (especially the recovery) for a user friendly implementation of dualboot. Now that I know all this, it shouldn't be very hard to implement it to another phone.
Obviously, to make changes to the recovery /initramfs and kernel itself, I need a device to test with.
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Hi, What do you want me to ask?
Of course I am interested in this project. Otherwise RichMD would not have opened the thread.
As I wrote in the other thread, i was going to get me a nexus 4 within the coming months. If RichMD would not have asked, I would not have thought about the note 2.
Regarding dual boot, it took me nearly 2 month, to figure out how all the things need to be modified (especially the recovery) for a user friendly implementation of dualboot. Now that I know all this, it shouldn't be very hard to implement it to another phone.
Obviously, to make changes to the recovery /initramfs and kernel itself, I need a device to test with.
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Thanks DerTeufel,
I think many of us would like to see this capability on the Note 2.
I don't know if it would work but I am particularly hoping that I can have an unrooted "work" ROM as the "secondary" so I can use my enterprise Good email client. I am hoping it will be somewhat like dual-booting my kindle-fire where the "secondary" has to be packaged for "alternate" partitions and then have the other ROM be what I can flash various ROMs that come out. Even if the dual-boot does not work like that initially, I would want it regardless and I am guessing other DEVs could help expand on it.
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Thanks DerTeufel,
I think many of us would like to see this capability on the Note 2.
I don't know if it would work but I am particularly hoping that I can have an unrooted "work" ROM as the "secondary" so I can use my enterprise Good email client. I am hoping it will be somewhat like dual-booting my kindle-fire where the "secondary" has to be packaged for "alternate" partitions and then have the other ROM be what I can flash various ROMs that come out. Even if the dual-boot does not work like that initially, I would want it regardless and I am guessing other DEVs could help expand on it.
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Sorry, but I can't say anything about this now. It depends on the drivers needed for stock and aosp based roms.
For sure you can run two stock roms or two aosp roms.
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Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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droidstyle said:
Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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Well, let me remember... You are/were having a vibrant? Do you still have it? I can upload the dualboot kernel for it later (already compiled it few weeks ago. Lol) then you can compare nandroid against dualboot.
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droidstyle said:
Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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I totally agree. Having tw and aosp would be the perfect combination. As I don't own this device (yet), I am not very familiar with it. Does one need a different kernel for aosp and tw roms?
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Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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If we get dual-boot functionality then maybe it can be improved over time to support AOSP and TW ROMS. Maybe that will never happen but it certainly won't if we don't start with getting some of the items resolved like recovery, etc that DerTeufel1980 has worked through. Personally, I would like to have a TW ROM configured for work with the battery hogging Good client and corresponding password restrictions, etc and a personal TW ROM that I can setup however I want. I don't consider nandroid swaps a viable option personally.
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RichMD said:
If we get dual-boot functionality then maybe it can be improved over time to support AOSP and TW ROMS. Maybe that will never happen but it certainly won't if we don't start with getting some of the items resolved like recovery, etc that DerTeufel1980 has worked through. Personally, I would like to have a TW ROM configured for work with the battery hogging Good client and corresponding password restrictions, etc and a personal TW ROM that I can setup however I want. I don't consider nandroid swaps a viable option personally.
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i dont swap roms enough to warrant dual boot...and if we cant dual boot between touchwiz and aosp then it seems pointless.
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DerTeufel1980 said:
Well, let me remember... You are/were having a vibrant? Do you still have it? I can upload the dualboot kernel for it later (already compiled it few weeks ago. Lol) then you can compare nandroid against dualboot.
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I had a fascinate...anyhow I appreciate your work on that device, however I no longer support donation threads. to many folks been burned...no offense to you personally!
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I totally agree. Having tw and aosp would be the perfect combination. As I don't own this device (yet), I am not very familiar with it. Does one need a different kernel for aosp and tw roms?
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...this right here...I mean....come on now...
I've never had a phone that could use the same kernel for both AOSP and touchwhiz/sense/motoblur/whatever.
And I've had a lot of phones...
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i dont swap roms enough to warrant dual boot...and if we cant dual boot between touchwiz and aosp then it seems pointless.
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I had a fascinate...anyhow I appreciate your work on that device, however I no longer support donation threads. to many folks been burned...no offense to you personally!
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that's totally fine with me. no one is forced to donate, and i am not angry, if one tells me, he does not want to donate.
i never planned myself to get this device, and i never could pay for it (my girlfriend would kill me, if i spent my money for a phone instead of our kids ).
if this thread is going to get me the device at anytime, i would proudly develop my kernel for it. if not, i'll most probably buy a used nexus 4 in 2-3 months
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...this right here...I mean....come on now...
I've never had a phone that could use the same kernel for both AOSP and touchwhiz/sense/motoblur/whatever.
And I've had a lot of phones...
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Three of my 5 Android phones had AOSP and OEM running off of the same kernel, all three had locked bootloaders though. Droid X, Droid Bionic, Droid RAZR MAXX.
http://blog.gethuawei.com/huawei-device-usa-updates/
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Was just about to post this. Disappointed. There better be a damn good reason for this.
The Instagram page says "Stay tuned to see what the future holds."
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Look for their facebook page. Huawei devices usa or something. Mine should be the first comment.
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Those developers that got a free Mate 2 are our only hope now.
I guess that's why they gave them out. "Can you guys make ROMs for us? We're too lazy."
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Would like to ask everyone who reads this and wants kit late to post all over their Facebook and twitter pages
"We want Kit kat for the ascend mate 2.
But you chose not to.
NEVER AGAIN"
Maybe some negative pressure will make them rethink.
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Those developers that got a free Mate 2 are our only hope now.
I guess that's why they gave them out. "Can you guys make ROMs for us? We're too lazy."
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Huawei is basically saying "you're on your own" to anyone who received a device as a devloper. That's not a great position... It's a pretty solid slap in the face. My first thought as a developer is "ok, they are out, why would I bother". I'd cut more slack if the device was 18-24 months old but they are pushing this as their flagship currently and an alternative to the more expensive phablets on the market. Even Samsung provides "reasonable" support for "old" flagships better than this.
The crazy thing is the hardware should be more than able to keep up with 4.4/5.0. Unless they are jumping right to 5.0 this move makes 0 sense to me.
Modding. Mymind and xordos with my continual softbrick testing have managed to port a pretty much fully working TWRP onto my MT2-L05 device and I have uploaded a decrypted 4.4.2 rom for my Mate 2 in this forum, so why don't we collectively try and port it to your device, any help you need that are within my skillset I will happily provide....just a thought.. .... Download the rom I posted and see what you can come up with.. ..... .
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Modding. Mymind and xordos with my continual softbrick testing have managed to port a pretty much fully working TWRP onto my MT2-L05 device and I have uploaded a decrypted 4.4.2 rom for my Mate 2 in this forum, so why don't we collectively try and port it to your device, any help you need that are within my skillset I will happily provide....just a thought.. .... Download the rom I posted and see what you can come up with.. ..... .
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Does Huawei use a tool like RSD or Odin for system images or are devs stuck with manual disk images and the like via recovery?
Hmm, I was thinking about getting one of these, now I'm having doubts. If we only
get third party firmware, would I still be able to run software which will not run with root access ?
Have any of those developers who received the free phones mentioned their intentions?
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Hmm, I was thinking about getting one of these, now I'm having doubts. If we only
get third party firmware, would I still be able to run software which will not run with root access ?
Have any of those developers who received the free phones mentioned their intentions?
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Right now I'd hold off. Buy something else. The operating system on this phone is already a year old. Support for things like Android wear etc will be questionable in 6 months.
If Huawei doesn't update it's phones you should go with something else. Just my opinion.
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I saw the blog post on my G+ feed earlier today. I'm not really shocked, but it still really feels like a kick in the teeth.
I'm not sure what kind of luck we'll have getting a custom KK/LP Rom running on this phone. Usually the manufacturer-provided ROM is used as a baseline for other modifications to be made. If we were to spin our own AOSP Rom, could we even find the drivers and kennel modules to make everything work?
Where do we go from here?
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I saw the blog post on my G+ feed earlier today. I'm not really shocked, but it still really feels like a kick in the teeth.
I'm not sure what kind of luck we'll have getting a custom KK/LP Rom running on this phone. Usually the manufacturer-provided ROM is used as a baseline for other modifications to be made. If we were to spin our own AOSP Rom, could we even find the drivers and kennel modules to make everything work?
Where do we go from here?
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The kernel is up on one of the hosted Huawei sites. A quick once over at the BABBQ indicated it's a fairly vanilla Qualcomm 3.4 kernel with some Huawei bits sprinkled in. Shouldn't be much of an issue for 4.4. getting a 3.10 kernel up for 5.0 will be trickier and is a big question mark as 5.0 isn't officially released just yet. At the BABBQ we also discovered they didn't implement all of the modem modes in the ROM. Another developer told me they might take a closer look but gave no detail for timing.
I've been tinkering with adb backups, titanium and xposed lately and I'm not liking the stock ROM much. They omitted large chunks of the adb backup stuff rendering apps like Helium useless, the SD cards don't come through to the root context properly forcing you to enable a compatibility flag in SuperSU in order to make titanium work and apktool and other standard tools choke nicely on the system apks. I had to fall back to running the smali decompiler by hand to find the right hooks in SystemUI for a simple xposed hack.
Adding to the fun their version of Settings.apk is missing a number of standard features which you can only adjust via Tasker/SecureSettings or by hand behind the scenes. They also didn't implement encrypted storage in the vold storage stuff so you're screwed in an enterprise setting.
Based on what I've seen thus far a source based build is almost necessary if you want everything android has to offer. However, vetting a ROM to ensure various new functionality is 100% will be a pain.
Huawei left out a lot and the lack of 4.4 is a serious kick in the teeth.
Horrible
I just purchased this phone from amazon on July. I wouldn't mind the no update but I want to get a google watch in the next few months so I'm not very happy about this announcement. For some odd reason, Amazon is still letting me return this phone so I'm thinking of returning the phone. What is another phone that I can get at this price range?
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You can use Huawei's Hi-Suite software to flash roms to phone from pc. You can also pack roms up into Huawei's update format and flash them in quick update mode from your phone's external sd card, or you can install via recovery.
I bought mine on September 29 (didn't get it until early October) through the gethuawei site. I wonder if I can return it... I'll find out when there livechat is live today, the 29th of October.
After just one minor OTA update they officially announce no additional updates for their only US device... That's a deal breaker for me.
Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
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I just purchased this phone from amazon on July. I wouldn't mind the no update but I want to get a google watch in the next few months so I'm not very happy about this announcement. For some odd reason, Amazon is still letting me return this phone so I'm thinking of returning the phone. What is another phone that I can get at this price range?
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Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
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Nexus 5? Used flagships?
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Go spam them on g+! + my comment! (Seth Hin)
https://plus.google.com/116259104144339004134/posts/MwgooqkQpwK
Not surprised , saw this coming from the early start . Thing is , there is no alternative with these features / size at the 299$ price tag . There are phones like the ZTE nubia / moto g / Blu products / etc but they don't hold a candle to this phablet . On another note , I've customized my phone to the max and i don't need a major OS update . Just me , this phone runs perfectly for my use . Fine if they just push minor OS fixes via OTA . Developers can be our saviours ! Let's not forget this isn't really a flagship ! You're paying for the experience as created/intended at the time . Let's wait and see :thumbup:
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Damn, I was just about to buy this phone. Does anyone know of any good alternatives in Canada?
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Probably the Samsung Galaxy Mega.
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Granted, I'm "late" to the Nexus 6P game, and we have tons of ROMs to choose from. I like to build ROMs too, so, what are we missing? If there's a firmware out there, that you'd like to have on your device, by all means: Post In this Thread
Please, don't ask me to "add/remove features" on an existing project, I'm not going to do "something else" with other peoples work, just ain't right...
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Granted, I'm "late" to the Nexus 6P game, and we have tons of ROMs to choose from. I like to build ROMs too, so, what are we missing? If there's a firmware out there, that you'd like to have on your device, by all means: Post In this Thread
Please, don't ask me to "add/remove features" on an existing project, I'm not going to do "something else" with other peoples work, just ain't right...
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Samsung Edge features would be interesting on our phones...
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[emoji6] first you need too post this in another section!
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Granted, I'm "late" to the Nexus 6P game, and we have tons of ROMs to choose from. I like to build ROMs too, so, what are we missing? If there's a firmware out there, that you'd like to have on your device, by all means: Post In this Thread
Please, don't ask me to "add/remove features" on an existing project, I'm not going to do "something else" with other peoples work, just ain't right...
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I feel you, when I got the nexus 6p a year back I felt out if the game.
I'm on mobile right now (so it's a bit harder to check but I wonder if we have a sailfishOS or Ubuntu , KDE (or plasma mobile they are calling it)
If I think of anymore I'll. Let you know
Niropa said:
I feel you, when I got the nexus 6p a year back I felt out if the game.
I'm on mobile right now (so it's a bit harder to check but I wonder if we have a sailfishOS or Ubuntu , KDE (or plasma mobile they are calling it)
If I think of anymore I'll. Let you know
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I would love to try sailfishos! Always intrigued me.
Niropa said:
I feel you, when I got the nexus 6p a year back I felt out if the game.
I'm on mobile right now (so it's a bit harder to check but I wonder if we have a sailfishOS or Ubuntu , KDE (or plasma mobile they are calling it)
If I think of anymore I'll. Let you know
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I would love to try sailfishos! Always intrigued me.
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Sailfish OS seems a step in the wrong direction to me. After a little reading, it runs on top of CyanogenMod (I don't mean Lineage), for ported devices. I will look into KDE (Plasma Mobile) later today, need to go to work now...
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Samsung Edge features would be interesting on our phones...
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+1 !
What we miss is a truly unique rom.
All of them differ just in de amount of features they have. What would be awesome would be a rom that not only is different, but also looks different.
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Sailfish OS seems a step in the wrong direction to me. After a little reading, it runs on top of CyanogenMod (I don't mean Lineage), for ported devices. I will look into KDE (Plasma Mobile) later today, need to go to work now...
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Yes most of those ROM ports run off cm cause of its compatibility with so many devices, that doesn't make it a step in the wrong direction though as it's a completely different OS with repos required from cm that can probably be replaced with their updated lineage fork. Even if not I guarantee people would still use it if it was 7.0 as it's totally new os for people to play with
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Yes most of those ROM ports run off cm cause of its compatibility with so many devices, that doesn't make it a step in the wrong direction though as it's a completely different OS with repos required from cm that can probably be replaced with their updated lineage fork. Even if not I guarantee people would still use it if it was 7.0 as it's totally new os for people to play with
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CM12 is latest "stable", some folks seem to be kinda working on CM13, but it's still using a lot of CM12 stuff (looking at Github, anyway). Again, this is just for porting to "New" devices. It's been a few months since any repos were updated...
From what I gathered on the KDE site, you need to run MutliROM and get Ubuntu Touch working. Then you can try to port Plasma Mobile, kinda like using the KDE Desktop on your Ubuntu install with a PC. I haven't even looked at Ubuntu Touch yet, lol.
I'll keep doing research, anyone that wants to chip in, feel free :good:
Well I was working on a project long time ago, was not for this device, it was a port for the "Download Booster", when it was cool, and then I failed to do so.
If you can port it to a rom that would be great IMO
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CM12 is latest "stable", some folks seem to be kinda working on CM13, but it's still using a lot of CM12 stuff (looking at Github, anyway). Again, this is just for porting to "New" devices. It's been a few months since any repos were updated...
From what I gathered on the KDE site, you need to run MutliROM and get Ubuntu Touch working. Then you can try to port Plasma Mobile, kinda like using the KDE Desktop on your Ubuntu install with a PC. I haven't even looked at Ubuntu Touch yet, lol.
I'll keep doing research, anyone that wants to chip in, feel free :good:
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i hear you, i know none of them run off the latest android sources i was just giving suggestions off the top of my head of things i feel people would be interested in seeing for the device.
hopefully you end up finding the right thing for you
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i hear you, i know none of them run off the latest android sources i was just giving suggestions off the top of my head of things i feel people would be interested in seeing for the device.
hopefully you end up finding the right thing for you
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As stated, I'll keep researching, right now, I'm really enjoying ScrewdAOSP ROM on my 6P
Must be faster.
The "quick send to" feature doesn't work well. I would like to quit Twitter from there and telegram etc don't show the chats towards you send more files, just the last ones that received messages.
Configuration tool of RR is a must have. No ROM acceptable without that.
Porting Plasma Mobile
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CM12 is latest "stable", some folks seem to be kinda working on CM13, but it's still using a lot of CM12 stuff (looking at Github, anyway). Again, this is just for porting to "New" devices. It's been a few months since any repos were updated...
From what I gathered on the KDE site, you need to run MutliROM and get Ubuntu Touch working. Then you can try to port Plasma Mobile, kinda like using the KDE Desktop on your Ubuntu install with a PC. I haven't even looked at Ubuntu Touch yet, lol.
I'll keep doing research, anyone that wants to chip in, feel free :good:
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You don't really need to port Ubuntu Touch per se to get a Plasma Mobile port working. Just getting an Ubuntu 16.04 rootfs working should suffice for a base to build on. Additionally, porting Halium components should be enough to get the ball rolling.
I was working on a port of PM with someone else a couple of months ago until Halium started and more stuff started piling up for me. If you want to have some of the files we worked on, PM me.
EDIT: I have a thread about porting non-Android OSes to the Nexus 6P if it piques your interest.