Does his new kernel in GB NOT work in any other non GB ROMs? I hate the look of GB and all the themes are hideous. Am on Sheds Vanilla ROM (LAST RELEASE) and I really wanna try his new kernel. How come he hasn't released it like he normally does in his kernel update thread? :/
You could always just ask him - you know, a PM or something.
If you are eager to put your hands on it, just yank it out of the boot.img from one of the ROMs that claims to have it, and pack up your own boot image with it. If you have S-OFF, you don't even need to make a signed install package; just flash it with fastboot.
I knew I had read this somewhere.
According to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11286048&postcount=645
The Kernels are different, this rom uses an Unreleased version of Conap's CFS kernel, while Tazz's Froyo rom was using CFSv9... but they are basically the same, the unreleased Kernel has Ext4 abilities as where CFSv9 does not.
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So that may be why it hasn't been released as a new kernel: it adds one featured that only GB ROMs need. But perhaps I should just let Conap answer...
I had researched and found that pretty much only change in the changelog, as well. From my understanding, the added ability doesn't even really do anything on the Eris...yet. Since we're not using Ext4 for anything, but maybe as you noted, Gingerbread at least requires the ability for whatever reason, if it's not made use of.
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So I recently flashed the OTA Rom and I noticed I can't overclock it, is there something I can do? Do I need to flash a kernel or something, also is it possible to change the top bar because I don't like the stock version, like change the theme but I don't want to change the launcher at the bottom . Sorry for the noob questions lol
Best advice would be to flash this ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227075 Droidth3ory makes awesome roms. This rom is based off the latest GB build as well. It also will include a kernel for overclocking into it. Also, he has an app called the "Candy Stor3" in his rom, which has theming options to it, if you want to change how your phone looks.
To answer your question though, with OTA roms, there aren't custom kernels loaded into the rom, because OTA roms are what is "out of box" state. It will come with the manufacturers kernel. Even though the version GB version is updated, I believe a Sense kernel should work with your rom.
Awesome, thank you so much
I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
shelooga said:
I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
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You obviously tried dreamkernel. Imoseyon has the WiFi fixed. Neither have been at all diligent about keeping their kernels current so there are basically no custom kernels that are fully functional with any ROM base newer than 2.07. The lone exception would be Ziggy's, but you'd have to strip that out of Gingeritis or synergy.
I'm not really sure I understand and maybe someone can help me to, but the appeal of CWM to me was the ability to flash a ROM without needing a PC. However, most of the ROM's in the dev section say that a kernel flash is required and the utility requires a PC. The appeal of being able to flash a new ROM at any time is lost since I need to wait until I'm at home with my PC. If a kernel flash at the PC is required for most ROM's then why CWM at that point?
I'm realizing as I write this that the answer is likely that it's easier for a noob than adb. I still ask the question in the event there is something else I'm missing.
Also, before I get 30 hypersensitive replies about not appreciating the devs work and I should dev something myself if I don't like it please know that this is not intended to criticize the work of the devs. I'd just like to know if there is something I'm missing or maybe that I'm misunderstanding that a kernel flash is required when I read the releases.
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I'm not really sure I understand and maybe someone can help me to, but the appeal of CWM to me was the ability to flash a ROM without needing a PC. However, most of the ROM's in the dev section say that a kernel flash is required and the utility requires a PC. The appeal of being able to flash a new ROM at any time is lost since I need to wait until I'm at home with my PC. If a kernel flash at the PC is required for most ROM's then why CWM at that point?
I'm realizing as I write this that the answer is likely that it's easier for a noob than adb. I still ask the question in the event there is something else I'm missing.
Also, before I get 30 hypersensitive replies about not appreciating the devs work and I should dev something myself if I don't like it please know that this is not intended to criticize the work of the devs. I'd just like to know if there is something I'm missing or maybe that I'm misunderstanding that a kernel flash is required when I read the releases.
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Yes! You missed this thread
All the latest roms are using Faux kernel anyways, Flash once, and then you can use CWM to flash any multiple roms you want
The ONLY time you NEED to flash a seperate kernel is when going to a totally different build. Examples:
Sense 3.0 to Sense 3.5
Sense 3.5 to Sense 3.0
ICS to Sense 3.0
ICS to Sense 3.5
Sense 3.0 to ICS
ICS to Sense 3.5
...etc
Other than that the kernel that you use is still pretty much stock.
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All the latest roms are using Faux kernel anyways, Flash once, and then you can use CWM to flash any multiple roms you want
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This is true, but each successive release says that a kernel update is needed. I am assuming that this includes not only those freshly flashing the ROM, but also those flashing from a ROM's previous version. Are they incompatible from version to version? Basically, if I'm bored while out and wanted to flash a ROM then flash the kernel later are there risks?
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Yes! You missed this thread
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This looks great! Since T-Mobile just throttled my data for the remainder of my billing cycle I will have to follow the thread and then give it a try later when I have WiFi. Thanks for the link.
Thanks Binary. That makes sense. No pun intended. So then the boot.img a dev includes with the packaged ROM is more or less a suggested kernel to best optimize their ROM and not that there are features of a ROM that will not work?
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Thanks Binary. That makes sense. No pun intended. So then the boot.img a dev includes with the packaged ROM is more or less a suggested kernel to best optimize their ROM and not that there are features of a ROM that will not work?
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That depends on the kernel that the developer includes.
If it's a faux edition then there are a few tweaks however it's still stock.
All features should be accessable in the rom as long as you are using an unsecured kernel.
Okay so I am sort of confused between what a Rom and kernel is. I have flashed saurom rom rcvi on my phone and it comes with a kernel.
I just want to know what they exactly are.
I know a rom is basically like the operating system and their are different roms. What is a kernel tho? I have dags oc kernel though i havent oc yet. But what is it and what does it do? I assume it has something to do with the internal hardware and performance. How do you flash a kernel by itself, Can you even do that or does it always come coupled with a rom? Lets say i wanted to get the holonote kernel by itself would it be possible to do that? Can you mix and match roms and kernels?
Also where does theming come into play? I know that theming well basicallys themes and decorates your device. But how does that work? Do certain roms have themes, or can you put any themes on any roms? How do you flash a rom? Also themes shouldnt affect the performance right.
You may want to search the forums, specifically Q&A or development. People are going to flame you.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)
In the simplest terms that I can think of, a kernel is a component within an operating system that acts as a bridge which allows software to communicate with hardware. I think Saurom is bundled with Hololight's kernel, and the two Collective roms are bundled with DaG's 0.2 OC kernel. You can flash an alternate kernel, as long as your ROM works with it. You can also flash just a kernel without flashing a ROM.
As for themes, most of them are designed for and require a specific ROM. The thread for the theme will be very clear as to which ROM is required to run it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)
In the simplest terms that I can think of, a kernel is a component within an operating system that acts as a bridge which allows software to communicate with hardware. I think Saurom is bundled with Hololight's kernel, and the two Collective roms are bundled with DaG's 0.2 OC kernel. You can flash an alternate kernel, as long as your ROM works with it. You can also flash just a kernel without flashing a ROM.
As for themes, most of them are designed for and require a specific ROM. The thread for the theme will be very clear as to which ROM is required to run it.
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good call....,.
Here is another great example:
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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Follow up to OP's question: Where does the kernel "live"? Is it in the boot partition?
I ask, because with all the flashing and at times wanting to go back, does a full nadroid restore (I see it restoring the boot partition, then system, then data) restore the previous kernel also?
Thanks.
If you are curious where stuff is... Take a cwm flashable zip, open it with 7 zip on your pc, follow the folder path in "meta-INF" til you get to a file called "updater-script" pull that out, open it up with NotePad and look and see where its writing to.
the kernel is written to
/dev/block/mmcblk0p8
I am trying to figure out which of the Entropy's Daily Driver's is the best non-buggy to use or...
suggest a different kernel, I really don't feel like flashing 10-15-20 kernels to find the one that is most stable and most reliable with the goodies required
Depends on which firmware you're on...
Stock based Gingerbread I suggest the latest 3/7 DD from his thread... or Siyah kernel
Stock CM7 Kernel for CM7 (as it already comes with all his additions) ...or Siyah kernel
His ICS kernel is only for certain i9100 roms...
and the CM9/AOKP stock kernel should be used if using CM9/AOKP according to the big man himself. (again, him and the CM9 team share code...) (there's also a kernel by Fenny for ICS roms being released soon) ALSO- Siyah Kernel will be updated in short order for ICS/CM9/AOKP...
But definitely the latest daily driver or Siyah kernel if you're using Gingerbread (and soon ICS)...
Entropy and Siyah used to be very different... but most features match these days in the gingerbread versions- as I'm sure they will in the ICS versions.
And if you're running CM9 or AOKP, use the kernel they come with to avoid malfunctions.
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I am trying to figure out which of the Entropy's Daily Driver's is the best non-buggy to use or...
suggest a different kernel, I really don't feel like flashing 10-15-20 kernels to find the one that is most stable and most reliable with the goodies required
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Read the DD thread and make your own judgement - but you're still going to end up trying 3 or 4 minimum if you really want to get the "best non-buggy" for your use. Results varied across the board for everyone who tried the different versions. And 15 minutes of your time reading would probably cross 80% of them off your list of ones to try.
Stuff after 12/8 seemed to not play well with AT&T's broken bases (UC anything).
If you're on a base that doesn't suck - go for the latest on GB.
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I am trying to figure out which of the Entropy's Daily Driver's is the best non-buggy to use or...
suggest a different kernel, I really don't feel like flashing 10-15-20 kernels to find the one that is most stable and most reliable with the goodies required
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LOL
Really?
You don't want to flash them to find out which works best for you?
Don't flash this as you already have one from ur ICS ROM! I just did not see any Stock Kernel that is the reason why i made a thread!
Haven't seen a stock ICS 4.0.3 kernel in development section so i m just dropping stock kernel in case some one needs it.
It meant we'll have mod kernel soon? Better battery faster ... everything.
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ummm... what?! Is this i717 specific, or just the AOSP 4.0.3 kernel? How did we get this for the i717 without source? Where is it from? So many questions!!!11 lol
If this is for real, someone please throw a bucket of ice water (and/or trout) on Da_G...
I have tried to use this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20806471&postcount=1 to inject init.d support into the stock kernel but cannot tell if it worked. It worked on the stock ICS kernel for the Asus Transformer according to this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23005237&postcount=104
Anyone else more familiar with init.d care to try it? It did give me an init.d folder, and the command prompt on PC seemed like it was successful but I can't tell from the file it placed in init.d after first boot if it was successful or not. I tried putting a supercharger script in the init.d folder but it doesn't seem to be working.
edit: Also at the risk of sounding dumb I don't know what set permission as 755 is. I tried to set the permissions of the folder to match the other folders in the directory.
I don't understand why are guys so happy about this ?
This kernel (boot.img) is already in ICS ROMs,
you can just unzip one of those ROMs or the leak and there you have it !
They need kernel SOURCE to do overclock etc.
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Jckpsa said:
I don't understand why are guys so happy about this ?
This kernel (boot.img) is already in ICS ROMs,
you can just unzip one of those ROMs or the leak and there you have it !
They need kernel SOURCE to do overclock etc.
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I was assuming this was source... which, as my previous post indicates, wouldn't make sense.
Otherwise, you're right, this isn't anything special. Nice to have separately? Sure, I guess...
so what is a kernal is this a ics leak, im a nubie and pretty stupid.
thanks
Guys, this is STOCK ICS 4.0.3 Kernel. In other words, the kernel that was provided with the leak. It's unmodified.
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Guys, this is STOCK ICS 4.0.3 Kernel. In other words, the kernel that was provided with the leak. It's unmodified.
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yes we know this.......which is not that useful for the dev....as they need the source code for the kernel.....without the source code....we can't OC/undervolt and do all the lovely things that we need...
I've been wanting a stock ICS version as there have been a few bugs that I can't get away from with the two mods I've tried... Maybe it's ICS, maybe it's me, but now I can see how the original runs. Thanks!
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I've been wanting a stock ICS version as there have been a few bugs that I can't get away from with the two mods I've tried... Maybe it's ICS, maybe it's me, but now I can see how the original runs. Thanks!
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You do know this is just the kernel right? If you flash only this after a full wipe, you're not going to have a booting Android phone.
You sure? I would think it would be more like flashing it to what is already in it, unless, this is not for the i717.
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You do know this is just the kernel right? If you flash only this after a full wipe, you're not going to have a booting Android phone.
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You sure? I would think it would be more like flashing it to what is already in it, unless, this is not for the i717.
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I think he means if you flash it after a "full" wipe, meaning clearing the system. If you just do a data and cache wipe it should be fine, if of course you are running an ICS ROM.
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I think he means if you flash it after a "full" wipe, meaning clearing the system. If you just do a data and cache wipe it should be fine, if of course you are running an ICS ROM...
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...which already has the same kernel, so there would be no point.
If this isn't source, then I don't understand what this is for. Every i717 ICS leak currently available has this kernel already included. Having it on your SD card just in case isn't really going to do anyone any good, since everyone running any of the currently available ICS ROMs is already running this very kernel. If this is acceptable, then I won't be surprised to see others parting out the leak and posting pieces of it in the dev section, when it really belongs in General since it isn't source. Please don't flame me, just trying to make a point.
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If this isn't source, then I don't understand what this is for. Every i717 ICS leak currently available has this kernel already included. Having it on your SD card just in case isn't really going to do anyone any good, since everyone running any of the currently available ICS ROMs is already running this very kernel. If this is acceptable, then I won't be surprised to see others parting out the leak and posting pieces of it in the dev section, when it really belongs in General since it isn't source. Please don't flame me, just trying to make a point.
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It's pretty useful for noobs who flashed DaG's kernel mistaking it for an ICS kernel.
OP is pretty misleading. There is no reason to flash this at the moment.
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Actually, I dont understand what the big deal is...
There are stock roms in the development thread aren't there?
Stock Odin recovery image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
Stock boot & recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504999
Strange that no one *****ed about these being in Android Development... I dont see what the difference is.
All this is is the stock kernel from the ICS leak taken out and made available for flashing in case you want to flash the stock kernel FROM THE ICS LEAK (so, if you are still on stock GB, this wont be helpful, this is ONLY useful if you are running the stock, unmodified ICS leak and have changed the kernel and want to revert back to the stock ICS kernel from the leaked ICS rom).
The OP is pretty self explanatory, in fact, the title of the thread is pretty self explanatory. I mean, ICS 4.0.3 STOCK KERNEL sounds pretty clear to me.
My only beef is not with the thread or its location but the lack of organization on XDA. There should literally be a category for ROMS, another for mods & themes & apps, and another for stock images. Q&A should be removed and combined with General. Given the limitation of the current choices, this doesnt fit under General, Q&A, Themes and Apps, or Accessories. The next best fit is Android Development. This is of course all my opinion.
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Stock kernels belong in General.
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All this is is the stock kernel from the ICS leak taken out and made available for flashing in case you want to flash the stock kernel FROM THE ICS LEAK (so, if you are still on stock GB, this wont be helpful, this is ONLY useful if you are running the stock, unmodified ICS leak and have changed the kernel and want to revert back to the stock ICS kernel from the leaked ICS rom)
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I really didn't want to jump back into this, and it seriously doesn't bother me at all that this was posted... that said, there are NO modified ICS kernels on our Notes right now (we're all on the same kernel at the moment), so this won't become useful until someone modifies one (as appdroid apparently intends to do to add init.d) -- and even then, it will need to be replaced once the official ICS build/source gets released.
Either way, like I said, this thread doesn't bother me at all... appdroid's dev efforts on the Note are much appreciated!