So I recently flashed the OTA Rom and I noticed I can't overclock it, is there something I can do? Do I need to flash a kernel or something, also is it possible to change the top bar because I don't like the stock version, like change the theme but I don't want to change the launcher at the bottom . Sorry for the noob questions lol
Best advice would be to flash this ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227075 Droidth3ory makes awesome roms. This rom is based off the latest GB build as well. It also will include a kernel for overclocking into it. Also, he has an app called the "Candy Stor3" in his rom, which has theming options to it, if you want to change how your phone looks.
To answer your question though, with OTA roms, there aren't custom kernels loaded into the rom, because OTA roms are what is "out of box" state. It will come with the manufacturers kernel. Even though the version GB version is updated, I believe a Sense kernel should work with your rom.
Awesome, thank you so much
I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
shelooga said:
I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
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You obviously tried dreamkernel. Imoseyon has the WiFi fixed. Neither have been at all diligent about keeping their kernels current so there are basically no custom kernels that are fully functional with any ROM base newer than 2.07. The lone exception would be Ziggy's, but you'd have to strip that out of Gingeritis or synergy.
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does anyone here uses a custom rom with a stock kernel? will it still be good? i really do want to flash but i don't want things to get complicated. i just want to speed up the phone.
and with stock kernel everything is simple right? just flash the rom and use it, no other things needed.
I am one of the unlucky people that have a vibrant that cant handle an OC/UV kernel. So yes, every time I flash a custom rom, I flash a stock kernel. Generally speaking most roms I use ( bionix and master ) barely increase the benchmark scores of stock tw... though they do feel snappier because these rom chefs spend alot of time in polishing the user interface... if you want to make your device faster, try rooting it and installing a lag fix. If you have any other questions be sure to click the red text in my Sig.
You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
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You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
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i already flashed a fusion 1.1 stock kernel. i'm satisfied already.
Awesome, just making sure. I didn't agree with the lf suggestion.
If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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to your 3rd question, if you have a custom rom with a stock kernel you can flash back to stock rom without problems using odin.
Thanks. Plus found discussion of kernels under Vibrant Q&A under "Bionix fusion 1.1".
Does his new kernel in GB NOT work in any other non GB ROMs? I hate the look of GB and all the themes are hideous. Am on Sheds Vanilla ROM (LAST RELEASE) and I really wanna try his new kernel. How come he hasn't released it like he normally does in his kernel update thread? :/
You could always just ask him - you know, a PM or something.
If you are eager to put your hands on it, just yank it out of the boot.img from one of the ROMs that claims to have it, and pack up your own boot image with it. If you have S-OFF, you don't even need to make a signed install package; just flash it with fastboot.
I knew I had read this somewhere.
According to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11286048&postcount=645
The Kernels are different, this rom uses an Unreleased version of Conap's CFS kernel, while Tazz's Froyo rom was using CFSv9... but they are basically the same, the unreleased Kernel has Ext4 abilities as where CFSv9 does not.
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So that may be why it hasn't been released as a new kernel: it adds one featured that only GB ROMs need. But perhaps I should just let Conap answer...
I had researched and found that pretty much only change in the changelog, as well. From my understanding, the added ability doesn't even really do anything on the Eris...yet. Since we're not using Ext4 for anything, but maybe as you noted, Gingerbread at least requires the ability for whatever reason, if it's not made use of.
I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
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I am looking for a ROM that allows overclocking.. currently I just tried Suprarom as it's AOSP with HTC Sense so still very similar to what I am use to without a whole new learning curve. But I hate it when developers developing these ROMS don't unlock them completely Set CPU does not work.. I can not overclock so I need to know what would be the best ROM for me that allows overclocking but not too much of a new learning curve and 3D and that still works.
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Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
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Overclocking does not require you to flash a different ROM. Just flash a overclockable kernel on your current ROM and you will be fine.
NOTE: Not all kernels work on every ROM.
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ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
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ok thanks.. so guessing that Anthrax v2 that appears stickied is the one to flash than.
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I do not guarantee this will work on your current ROM or not.
If anything goes wrong like you are stuck on htc screen/broken wifi/4g etc reflash th kernel that came with your rom. Also if you are on hboot 1.50 you will need flash image GUI to change kernel or use fastboot method. I dont know whether these can be overclocked or not. Check their description. What is your current rom based on?
2.08.651.2/.3 or 2.17.651.5 ?vCheck whether those kernels are made for your current version.
Hope this helps.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427963
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
Search here there might be kernels in some folders
http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/EVO_3D_Developers/
If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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The thread should tell you if the kernel is baked into the Rom our not but the stock kernel usually comes with it. I'm pretty sure you're talking about a beefed up kernel tho. You'll just have to read the thread and if you're still not clear about it, ask in that thread to be sure.
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If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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there is always a kernel included with a rom. most alternate kernels are made and or flashed to combat a side effect or incompatibility with some folks devices. its not that provided kernel doesn't work, just that every device is different and the alternates can sometimes be more compatible.
however, I would suggest you give the original kernel a chance to settle, at least a day if not two. if it just flat out is not working for you, then flash an alternate onto the rom. wipe you caches ( not factory) flash kernel by itself and your good
never want to discount reading here as Gimmeitorilltell suggests. reading educates you and puts you in a better position to help yourself first.
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If I was to install, say, the Liquid Smooth ROM onto my i717 (I have a good amount of experience with flashing ROMs, so that much I know,) specifically, the KitKat version, it lists kernels in the download links. Would these kernels be included with the ROM files themselves, i.e. install at the same time as the ROM, or would I have to flash the kernel separately before flashing the ROM? Thank you VERY much in advance
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In general stick with the kernel that comes with a ROM unless you have a reason to change, like stability, overclocking, etc... but you do flash the kernel after the ROM; anytime after the ROM flash really. You don't need a clean flash before kernel switch.
The dev probably did not test his/her ROM with every kernel possible so if you want support your best bet is to be on the kernel included. For the 1st install of a ROM if you are unsure you should definitely use included kernel; as sometimes you just can't predict what changing it will do.
That said there many of us do switch kernels when installing updates, I certainly do. There are not alot of kernels for our phones as only a dedicated few devs continue to support the Note but you have a few choices. All kernels I've seen allow performance/governor control to some degree. If you read through the various ROM threads you'll find that some kernels are preferred by users but for the most part kernels like Uber work well with most ROMs.
P0llution's ROM patch allows you to switch kernels after flashing a ROM (BeanStalk, LiquidSmooth, etc....) and even before 1st boot. It also has patches for various KK problems. It is in the Beanstalk thread 1st post.
Thank you so much for your replies! Installed LS and flashed Uber kernel and running with no issues.
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So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
Yes. Usually every version of android that gets updated.. the kernel does as well
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
Yes you can flash kernels through a custom recovery. Most of the time they are included with the Rom that you flash. A lot of the custom ones out have flashable zip for you to flash them through a recovery.
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
No this will NOT work with a AOSP rom.. The kernel will be specific to that ROM and every other TW 4.3 ROM, but NOT AOSP
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Maybe he uses that kernel.. AOSP kernels, I believe are pretty similar.. I may be wrong, I am by NO MEANS a kernel guru..I would open you zip of your ROM (AOKP) and take a peak.. if there is a boot.img than it flashes a kernel.. and if your says OMNI then thats the kernel the dev has used..
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If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Thank you sir. It worked just fine.
I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I would think that as long as it doesn't break anything you should be fine. Probably do a backup first if you're worried about it.
Thanks for the response Michael, however, that was the response I was dreading! I'm actually worried I'll lose my WhatsApp and Viber accounts because even if I backed up my data, I'd still have to register my old WhatsApp and Viber numbers all over again which I don't have anymore.. ??