does anyone here uses a custom rom with a stock kernel? will it still be good? i really do want to flash but i don't want things to get complicated. i just want to speed up the phone.
and with stock kernel everything is simple right? just flash the rom and use it, no other things needed.
I am one of the unlucky people that have a vibrant that cant handle an OC/UV kernel. So yes, every time I flash a custom rom, I flash a stock kernel. Generally speaking most roms I use ( bionix and master ) barely increase the benchmark scores of stock tw... though they do feel snappier because these rom chefs spend alot of time in polishing the user interface... if you want to make your device faster, try rooting it and installing a lag fix. If you have any other questions be sure to click the red text in my Sig.
You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
s15274n said:
You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
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i already flashed a fusion 1.1 stock kernel. i'm satisfied already.
Awesome, just making sure. I didn't agree with the lf suggestion.
If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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to your 3rd question, if you have a custom rom with a stock kernel you can flash back to stock rom without problems using odin.
Thanks. Plus found discussion of kernels under Vibrant Q&A under "Bionix fusion 1.1".
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I want to install Bionix 1.7 w/ JACs OC kernel. I have flashed his kernel before, but i want to know, can I flash the stock kernel and just lose my OC? In case I have to go back to stock Bionix.
So, can I expect to flash the stock kernel on top of Bionix 1.7 to get rid of JACs kernel?
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I want to install Bionix 1.7 w/ JACs OC kernel. I have flashed his kernel before, but i want to know, can I flash the stock kernel and just lose my OC? In case I have to go back to stock Bionix.
So, can I expect to flash the stock kernel on top of Bionix 1.7 to get rid of JACs kernel?
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I don't think this will work, I'm not 100% but since his 1.7 build is based off of the JI6, I believe the kernel is different and this might mess some stuff up for you. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong
If I decide to go back to stock, I'll have have to use odin? When I was using 1.4 w/ OC, I flashed stock kernel via clockwork. then I soft bricked :O
So I recently flashed the OTA Rom and I noticed I can't overclock it, is there something I can do? Do I need to flash a kernel or something, also is it possible to change the top bar because I don't like the stock version, like change the theme but I don't want to change the launcher at the bottom . Sorry for the noob questions lol
Best advice would be to flash this ROM. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227075 Droidth3ory makes awesome roms. This rom is based off the latest GB build as well. It also will include a kernel for overclocking into it. Also, he has an app called the "Candy Stor3" in his rom, which has theming options to it, if you want to change how your phone looks.
To answer your question though, with OTA roms, there aren't custom kernels loaded into the rom, because OTA roms are what is "out of box" state. It will come with the manufacturers kernel. Even though the version GB version is updated, I believe a Sense kernel should work with your rom.
Awesome, thank you so much
I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
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I put together a rom based on theory's rom listed above, then flashed a sense kernel for overclocking, n it seems to break wifi. So I'm not sure if u can o/c the new 2.10 base yet, may need a new kernel
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You obviously tried dreamkernel. Imoseyon has the WiFi fixed. Neither have been at all diligent about keeping their kernels current so there are basically no custom kernels that are fully functional with any ROM base newer than 2.07. The lone exception would be Ziggy's, but you'd have to strip that out of Gingeritis or synergy.
After I rooted my phone, I simply installed Bionix 1.3 on it and that was it.
Do I NEED to install a kernel? What does that do exactly?
Everything has been running fine on my T-Mo Vibrant with the Bionix, but would the kernel help in any way?
Thanks.
Read the ROM OP. A kernel is usually prepackaged. Understand your ROM first, then start working with different kernels. Go to the Bible stickied in the forum and you'll see links to all the kernels.
Kernels come with all custom roms. With Bionix roms, they all come with a stock + Voodoo kernel. Its is a stock kernel that has the Voodoo lagfix built in and comes preactivated. Custom kernels have more tweaks and features than the stock voodoo kernels, like Voodoo sound, Overclocking and Undervolting abilities, and more. I advise you research the advantages and disadvantages of installing custom kernels. Until you have done your research about them, i suggest you stay on the stock+Voodoo kernel for now. Once you think you're ready for a custom kernel, please choose one that is up-to-date and was built to work on Froyo roms, like Bali, Bali-X, Bullet, and Immortality.
Okay, so my question then is, with the Bionix them, if I wanted to install Bali 1.8v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043947
Would I just do that via Clockwork Mod, then reinstall the Bionix ROM?
Or would that be too messy and possibly screw something up?
Thanks Mr. Apocalypse
You can flash kernels through CWR or SGS Kernel Flasher (in the market). Thing is, the I agree with Mr Apocalypse, you need to be reading and checking out things or your next post will be, "I bricked my phone, how to I fix it?"
This is directly from the OP of the Bionix ROM thread.
Optional Kernels:
NOTE:
Team Whiskey is not liable and takes absolutely no responsibility for any damages. Overclocking your phone adds additional stress to your hardware, so please understand the risks involved before you decide to overclock. Not all devices overclock the same, so please test the different clock speeds and see which one works best for you. Many times, certain devices will not accept an overclock at all. If you fall into this category, you will have to flash back to a stock kernel.
(all of these kernels have been compiled from official Vibrant 2.2 source code. They are include voodoo sound, voodoo color, and bln support. Bionix-v 1.3.1 already included the necessary apps for these features. Test these optional kernels and see which one works best for you!)
OverStock v1.3 by cmenard
DoW14 v1.1.1 by Morfic
Dragon v5.0 TEST1 by Ttabbal
Categorically Worthless by s0niqu3
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koooba said:
Okay, so my question then is, with the Bionix them, if I wanted to install Bali 1.8v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043947
Would I just do that via Clockwork Mod, then reinstall the Bionix ROM?
Or would that be too messy and possibly screw something up?
Thanks Mr. Apocalypse
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After you flash Bionix, then flash Bali. You can do that in ClockWorkMod Recovery or SGS Kernel Flasher, i prefer to use CWM Recovery because sometimes the app doesnt install some special files that are needed for things like BLN to work. But either way is ok, just dont reflash the rom afterward or you'll be back on the stock+Voodoo kernel
Bali is a great choice, drhonk builds those rock solid.
hi. i just want to ask these 2 questions.
question 1:
can i flash over a new rom over my bionix 1.3.1 running bali kernel 1.8.8? i would like to try an ics rom if it will do me good.
question 2:
if i switched to another rom, what will happen to my kernel? will there be incompatibility issues? however im planning to change the kernel if ever. can it also just be flashed over bali 1.8.8?
thanks.
Yes can flash on top might have to flash twice. Wipe is recommended.
Roms usually include kernel so don't have to worry about kernel. Btw 2.2 kernels like bali 1.8 would be in incompatible with 2.3 ics and aosp kernels
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Just want to add: Make sure to read the install instructions before you flash and it's a good idea to read the entire thread so you know what issues you might have. You should also know how to recover your phone should something go wrong.
In addtion, make a nandroid back up before you do anything, just in case you bork something and have to go back.
So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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So I've tried a bunch of different ROMs (CleanROM, Alliance, Beans, CM, OMNI, "Stock", probably more), but I've never really understood kernels. It seems some custom ROMs have a kernel built in (or several to choose from via Aroma), while others do not. Right now I'm running AOKP (4.4.2) with the kernel from OMNI (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648), presumably because that was the previous ROM I flashed with a kernel. I'm not too concerned with customization, more with stability.
I've been having a few minor bugs and crashes and I'd like to try perhaps the stock kernel to see if that might help, but I have some questions:
1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
Thanks ahead of time for any insight anyone can provide.
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
2) Are there multiple versions of kernels that correspond with the Android version of the ROM?
Yes. Usually every version of android that gets updated.. the kernel does as well
3) What's the best/easiest way to flash a kernel, presumably through the custom recovery like a ROM?
Yes you can flash kernels through a custom recovery. Most of the time they are included with the Rom that you flash. A lot of the custom ones out have flashable zip for you to flash them through a recovery.
4) Where can I find the stock kernel? I found this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610870) with the stock MJ9 kernel, but going back to my first two questions I'm not sure if it would work with my current ROM.
No this will NOT work with a AOSP rom.. The kernel will be specific to that ROM and every other TW 4.3 ROM, but NOT AOSP
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1) Does it matter when flashing a kernel whether the ROM is TW or AOSP?
Yes. TW and AOSP kernels are different.. The only one, that I believe, that can be used with both is Devil kernel for Dual Booting
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Thanks for the explanations, that helps tremendously. I'm confused now, however, because several people on the AOKP thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453566) claim to be on "stock kernel". Is there a stock kernel for AOSP that I'm missing?
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Yea the one that flashes with AOKP.. loll
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Well that's what I thought, but why then would I be using an OMNI kernel (3.0.64-OMNI-g5f47648) when I have flashed the last three AOKP nightly ROMs that have come out? Or am I missing something here?
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Maybe he uses that kernel.. AOSP kernels, I believe are pretty similar.. I may be wrong, I am by NO MEANS a kernel guru..I would open you zip of your ROM (AOKP) and take a peak.. if there is a boot.img than it flashes a kernel.. and if your says OMNI then thats the kernel the dev has used..
Stock
If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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If I'm on the stock rom and want to go back to the original kernel can I just restore the boot img in recovery?
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Should be able to if you back it up previously.. but make sure it is same rom.. TouchWiz for TouchWiz.. AOSP for AOSP
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Thank you sir. It worked just fine.
I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
yazalsaidi said:
I have a noob question, I'm currently using n3bula 3.9 custom rom and it's been running fine for a while. I noticed that users chose the agni kernel whereas I chose the stock one. So my question is, is it possible to flash just the kernel from recovery without losing my data? I've spent so much time and effort customizing my phone, therefore, I just want to change the kernel. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
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I would think that as long as it doesn't break anything you should be fine. Probably do a backup first if you're worried about it.
Thanks for the response Michael, however, that was the response I was dreading! I'm actually worried I'll lose my WhatsApp and Viber accounts because even if I backed up my data, I'd still have to register my old WhatsApp and Viber numbers all over again which I don't have anymore.. ??