After I rooted my phone, I simply installed Bionix 1.3 on it and that was it.
Do I NEED to install a kernel? What does that do exactly?
Everything has been running fine on my T-Mo Vibrant with the Bionix, but would the kernel help in any way?
Thanks.
Read the ROM OP. A kernel is usually prepackaged. Understand your ROM first, then start working with different kernels. Go to the Bible stickied in the forum and you'll see links to all the kernels.
Kernels come with all custom roms. With Bionix roms, they all come with a stock + Voodoo kernel. Its is a stock kernel that has the Voodoo lagfix built in and comes preactivated. Custom kernels have more tweaks and features than the stock voodoo kernels, like Voodoo sound, Overclocking and Undervolting abilities, and more. I advise you research the advantages and disadvantages of installing custom kernels. Until you have done your research about them, i suggest you stay on the stock+Voodoo kernel for now. Once you think you're ready for a custom kernel, please choose one that is up-to-date and was built to work on Froyo roms, like Bali, Bali-X, Bullet, and Immortality.
Okay, so my question then is, with the Bionix them, if I wanted to install Bali 1.8v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043947
Would I just do that via Clockwork Mod, then reinstall the Bionix ROM?
Or would that be too messy and possibly screw something up?
Thanks Mr. Apocalypse
You can flash kernels through CWR or SGS Kernel Flasher (in the market). Thing is, the I agree with Mr Apocalypse, you need to be reading and checking out things or your next post will be, "I bricked my phone, how to I fix it?"
This is directly from the OP of the Bionix ROM thread.
Optional Kernels:
NOTE:
Team Whiskey is not liable and takes absolutely no responsibility for any damages. Overclocking your phone adds additional stress to your hardware, so please understand the risks involved before you decide to overclock. Not all devices overclock the same, so please test the different clock speeds and see which one works best for you. Many times, certain devices will not accept an overclock at all. If you fall into this category, you will have to flash back to a stock kernel.
(all of these kernels have been compiled from official Vibrant 2.2 source code. They are include voodoo sound, voodoo color, and bln support. Bionix-v 1.3.1 already included the necessary apps for these features. Test these optional kernels and see which one works best for you!)
OverStock v1.3 by cmenard
DoW14 v1.1.1 by Morfic
Dragon v5.0 TEST1 by Ttabbal
Categorically Worthless by s0niqu3
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koooba said:
Okay, so my question then is, with the Bionix them, if I wanted to install Bali 1.8v
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043947
Would I just do that via Clockwork Mod, then reinstall the Bionix ROM?
Or would that be too messy and possibly screw something up?
Thanks Mr. Apocalypse
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After you flash Bionix, then flash Bali. You can do that in ClockWorkMod Recovery or SGS Kernel Flasher, i prefer to use CWM Recovery because sometimes the app doesnt install some special files that are needed for things like BLN to work. But either way is ok, just dont reflash the rom afterward or you'll be back on the stock+Voodoo kernel
Bali is a great choice, drhonk builds those rock solid.
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does anyone here uses a custom rom with a stock kernel? will it still be good? i really do want to flash but i don't want things to get complicated. i just want to speed up the phone.
and with stock kernel everything is simple right? just flash the rom and use it, no other things needed.
I am one of the unlucky people that have a vibrant that cant handle an OC/UV kernel. So yes, every time I flash a custom rom, I flash a stock kernel. Generally speaking most roms I use ( bionix and master ) barely increase the benchmark scores of stock tw... though they do feel snappier because these rom chefs spend alot of time in polishing the user interface... if you want to make your device faster, try rooting it and installing a lag fix. If you have any other questions be sure to click the red text in my Sig.
You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
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You do not need a lag fix... too many issues stem from this.
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i already flashed a fusion 1.1 stock kernel. i'm satisfied already.
Awesome, just making sure. I didn't agree with the lf suggestion.
If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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If you've flashed Bionix Fusion 1.1 with JACS OC/UV ROM from stock, do you need to flash another kernel or does the ROM include the JACs kernel? Without SetCPU do you then run stock benchmarks?
3rd Q, are there issues flashing back to a custom ROM but with the standard kernel?
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to your 3rd question, if you have a custom rom with a stock kernel you can flash back to stock rom without problems using odin.
Thanks. Plus found discussion of kernels under Vibrant Q&A under "Bionix fusion 1.1".
Is it possible to go back to the stock samsung rom after I have used a custom rom?
I just wanted to know before I do my first custom rom.. yea imma happy noob
btw, im looking into teamwiskey v3 rom but you know honestly id really like all this in 1 rom if possible:
1)gingerbread
2)overclock capability(kernal?)
3)wifi tether (kernal?)
Thanks guys for helping.. really appreciate it
-Tim
You can odin back to stock!
In one word. YES. Quite easy too.
Overclocking currently is not ideal as the kernels use the Samsung Galaxy S International version code and that kills our battery. As soon as the Vibrant source code is released, we can see overclock kernels which don't kill the battery. For now though, don't use any OC Froyo Kernel. Use vodoo + stock kernel.
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In one word. YES. Quite easy too.
Overclocking currently is not ideal as the kernels use the Samsung Galaxy S International version code and that kills our battery. As soon as the Vibrant source code is released, we can see overclock kernels which don't kill the battery. For now though, don't use any OC Froyo Kernel. Use vodoo + stock kernel.
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thanks guys! really helped alot. So i can ODIN back to stock, well ill just have to find out what and how to use that thing
and Alienz now all of a sudden I dont want to OC now. i love my precious battery haha. anyhow, quick question for you...
is teamwisky nero v3 a vodoo+stock kernel? and secondly whats this new kernal im hearing about called idk.. SuperOS kernal or something?
thanks again guys!
-Tim
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883379
NeroV3 comes with JL5 kernel w/voodoo 5.0.4, which is disabled by default.
The SuperIO kernel is a kernel developed by eugene that fixes I/O lag on the RFS system, supposedly removing the need for other lagfixes.
Go to my thread, read the short writeup. Then watch my video tutorial on going back to stock from a custom rom via Odin. It is quite a simple process actually. If all you want to do is go back to stock, you can stop watching after that is complete. OR I showcase how to flash nero v3 w/voodoo Cya!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10207377#post10207377
Ok so I just put the Honey Sweet 2.4 Rom on my phone after I downloaded the KA6 Kernel + Voodoo from Here . Now my question is this, Is the voodoo sound already modified to be better or are there settings I should go in and tweak to make it absolutely amazing. Also I want to OC my phone to either 1.2 or 1.4Ghz. I have SetCPU and I want to know what exactly I need to enter to have it up and running. I am a noob at this stuff but I do understand the risks involved with this stuff. I am eager to learn. I did to a search in the android general forum as well as this one and came up with lists and lists of threads that only mention voodoo. Thanks in advance!
Philip.
xspeedaddictx said:
Ok so I just put the Honey Sweet 2.4 Rom on my phone after I downloaded the KA6 Kernel + Voodoo from Here . Now my question is this, Is the voodoo sound already modified to be better or are there settings I should go in and tweak to make it absolutely amazing. Also I want to OC my phone to either 1.2 or 1.4Ghz. I have SetCPU and I want to know what exactly I need to enter to have it up and running. I am a noob at this stuff but I do understand the risks involved with this stuff. I am eager to learn. I did to a search in the android general forum as well as this one and came up with lists and lists of threads that only mention voodoo. Thanks in advance!
Philip.
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Gotta get the VooDoo app from the market....then you'll be able to control the various VooDoo sound enhancements
To OC your phone you need an OC kernel...a stock VooDoo kernel can't do this...so you'll need a kernel like Destroyer of Worlds (DoW14) or Eugene's Dead Horse or Dragon kernel...i think they will come overclocked @ 1.2ghz by default...since not all Vibrants can handle 1.4ghz....check out those kernels and read about them before flashing....i personally would recommend Dead Horse..since Dragon gave me kernel panics and DoW14 was just not for me
EDIT: Misread the OP....just like the post below...stock VooDoo kernels don't come with VooDoo sound...gotta get the ones that say it comes w/ VooDoo sound
Stock voodoo kernels do not have Voodoo sound included you need to use a kernel like Categorically Worthless, Overstock, Dragon or DeadHorse in conjunction with the voodoo control application to utilize the voodoo sound features.
See thats the thing. In the instruction it had me install one of the stock kernels with voodoo first and then after flashing the honey sweet it included a kernal with these features:
"- Overstock Kernel OverStock v1.3, 341MB, Voodoo Sound, Color, Lagfix, BLN(thanks cmenard) Voodoo Disabled by default"
So it now has a different Kernel (I dont know what Overstock kernel is) with voodoo sound and all such.
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See thats the thing. In the instruction it had me install one of the stock kernels with voodoo first and then after flashing the honey sweet it included a kernal with these features:
"- Overstock Kernel OverStock v1.3, 341MB, Voodoo Sound, Color, Lagfix, BLN(thanks cmenard) Voodoo Disabled by default"
So it now has a different Kernel (I dont know what Overstock kernel is) with voodoo sound and all such.
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overstock is the name of the kernel it supports voodoo sound but does not support oc/uv
shreddintyres said:
overstock is the name of the kernel it supports voodoo sound but does not support oc/uv
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Ok I see. So I can flash another kernel on there that will allow me to OC? Will that wipe all of my info or no? As far as the voodoo goes should I be tweaking any sound settings or is it already where it should be? Thanks for your help!
xspeedaddictx said:
Ok I see. So I can flash another kernel on there that will allow me to OC? Will that wipe all of my info or no? As far as the voodoo goes should I be tweaking any sound settings or is it already where it should be? Thanks for your help!
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as to voodoo sound it has some defaults set but it doesnt hurt to play with it so you get the perfect sound for you. as to other kernels you can flash other kernels but make sure read up on the initial posts by the developer and follow their instructions to the letter.
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as to voodoo sound it has some defaults set but it doesnt hurt to play with it so you get the perfect sound for you. as to other kernels you can flash other kernels but make sure read up on the initial posts by the developer and follow their instructions to the letter.
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There wouldn't maybe be a guide to this voodoo control app somewhere around here would there? If not I guess I will just figure it out haha. Thank you for the help I will see what the developer has to say regarding the kernel.
xspeedaddictx said:
There wouldn't maybe be a guide to this voodoo control app somewhere around here would there? If not I guess I will just figure it out haha. Thank you for the help I will see what the developer has to say regarding the kernel.
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you are welcome, the voodoo control app is fairly self explanatory, if you have issues with it feel free to pm me i just may take me a lil while to reply.
ok so i've went through the threads here and pretty much got a handle on what's what but some are little outdated. though since i'm new, i've already applied the ED01 froyo OTA update from stock as soon as i opened it up and a lot of the stuff here are applied to older firmwares. so first things first, i tried to root using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790004 using the fascinateRootv02 but no go. i hear you can use superoneclick but looking at the superonelick thread, samsung fascinate is not supported? so if someone can point me to the right direction, i would appreciate it.
so with that said, i know there are a lot of roms available. i want to just stick to one that works well and avoid much as possible in keep changing roms. so what is the most popular roms out of the bunch?
thanks!
droidfoshizzle said:
ok so i've went through the threads here and pretty much got a handle on what's what but some are little outdated. though since i'm new, i've already applied the ED01 froyo OTA update from stock as soon as i opened it up and a lot of the stuff here are applied to older firmwares. so first things first, i tried to root using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790004 using the fascinateRootv02 but no go. i hear you can use superoneclick but looking at the superonelick thread, samsung fascinate is not supported? so if someone can point me to the right direction, i would appreciate it.
so with that said, i know there are a lot of roms available. i want to just stick to one that works well and avoid much as possible in keep changing roms. so what is the most popular roms out of the bunch?
thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045048&page=2
I havent rooted an official 2.2 update.. but this should work.. welcome!!!
EDIT.. I BELIEVE YOU COULD INSTALL odin, and just flash a freshly rooted official ED01.. but ide wait for somemore answers b4 trying anything.. ppl usually get at u pretty quick
ace5198 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045048&page=2
I havent rooted an official 2.2 update.. but this should work.. welcome!!!
EDIT.. I BELIEVE YOU COULD INSTALL odin, and just flash a freshly rooted official ED01.. but ide wait for somemore answers b4 trying anything.. ppl usually get at u pretty quick
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You are correct. You can just odin a CWR of your choice and then flash a ROM with the Super User package already in place and kaboom rooted
Superonelick (version...let me look here.....ugh... version 1.8) is fascinate compatible and I myself have used it before.
cheers.
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To answer you question OP, the most popular ROM is Ultimatekangbang (Community ROM v1.x), Evil Fascination, and CyanogenMod 7 (Koas or CM7 by JT **Gingerbread**)
Quick break down
Kangbang (Comm)
-Community developed and updated frequently
-Most popular
-Comes with an overclockable/undervoltable kernel (up to 1.6ghz)
Evil Fascination
-2nd only to Kangbang
-Great ROM very clean
-No kernel (since I last checked could be wrong)
- Just use one of the PBJ kernels that are under volted for better battery life
-beta testing the LG android launcher
CM7
-Gingerbread (2.3)
-Camera, MMS, and BT do not function until a 2.3 official leak is obtained
-Smooth and completely open source
-heavily customizable
I use Kangbang 1.3 with the 100uv PBJ kernel and I see no crashes or force closing issues alongside 25 to 30 hours of battery life under normal use.
gkirby11 said:
You are correct. You can just odin a CWR of your choice and then flash a ROM with the Super User package already in place and kaboom rooted
Superonelick (version...let me look here.....ugh... version 1.8) is fascinate compatible and I myself have used it before.
cheers.
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To answer you question OP, the most popular ROM is Ultimatekangbang (Community ROM v1.x), Evil Fascination, and CyanogenMod 7 (Koas or CM7 by JT **Gingerbread**)
Quick break down
Kangbang (Comm)
-Community developed and updated frequently
-Most popular
-Comes with an overclockable/undervoltable kernel (up to 1.6ghz)
Evil Fascination
-2nd only to Kangbang
-Great ROM very clean
-No kernel (since I last checked could be wrong)
- Just use one of the PBJ kernels that are under volted for better battery life
-beta testing the LG android launcher
CM7
-Gingerbread (2.3)
-Camera, MMS, and BT do not function until a 2.3 official leak is obtained
-Smooth and completely open source
-heavily customizable
I use Kangbang 1.3 with the 100uv PBJ kernel and I see no crashes or force closing issues alongside 25 to 30 hours of battery life under normal use.
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thanks for the info! hmm so you don't have to root to use odin? cool, i'll try this.
would voodoo work with kangbang? just saying because it seems like voodoo is the most popular kernel here. how different is 100uv PBJ then with voodoo? is there a there a one stop shop thread on info of which kernel does what?
droidfoshizzle said:
thanks for the info! hmm so you don't have to root to use odin? cool, i'll try this.
would voodoo work with kangbang? just saying because it seems like voodoo is the most popular kernel here. how different is 100uv PBJ then with voodoo? is there a there a one stop shop thread on info of which kernel does what?
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odin a pre rooted rom... found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380
again i say welcome and enjoy ur amazing new phone.. i prefeer community rom
Kind of a newb type question but dont want to waste time flashing and reflashing?
Can a non voodoo kernel be used with ComRom 2.1 or do I have to use voodoo?
ibz41 said:
Kind of a newb type question but dont want to waste time flashing and reflashing?
Can a non voodoo kernel be used with ComRom 2.1 or do I have to use voodoo?
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either one is ok I believe, if you want a certain kernel grab the ComRom with no kernel and flash your own
tapatalked from my super VZ Fascinate powered by CM7
But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
thanks, not sure if I will use stock kernel yet.
Let's say you flashed the ROM that had the built-in kernel already, can you still flash another kernel like OTBs or do you need to flash the stand-alone/no kernel distribution first? Also, can the kernel in the all-in-one package be OC'd or UC'd?
Thanks!
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But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
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shaels said:
Let's say you flashed the ROM that had the built-in kernel already, can you still flash another kernel like OTBs or do you need to flash the stand-alone/no kernel distribution first? Also, can the kernel in the all-in-one package be OC'd or UC'd?
Thanks!
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There is a version of ComRom which comes with OTB 1.5. OTB 1.6 is latest vesion but in not packaged with ComRom.
Yes you can flash other kernels after flashing rom/kernel package but if the new kernel is not voodoo make sure you disable the lagfix first. Also, if you use a non voodoo kernel do not enable the lagfix from CWM unless you flash a voodoo kernel again.
Lastly, OTB allows for voltage and clock adjustments. PBJ kernels are underclocked but I dont believe they are adjustable
Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312 for answers and links to roms, kernels, and CWM
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Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
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LOL, it's your thread.
good day.
Thumbs up. Thanks!
ibz41 said:
There is a version of ComRom which comes with OTB 1.5. OTB 1.6 is latest vesion but in not packaged with ComRom.
Yes you can flash other kernels after flashing rom/kernel package but if the new kernel is not voodoo make sure you disable the lagfix first. Also, if you use a none voodoo kernel do not enable the lagfix from CWM unless you flash a voodoo kernel again.
Lastly, OTB allows for voltage and clock adjustments. PBJ kernels are underclocked but I dont believe they are adjustable
Sorry chopper not trying to be rude by answering this question addressed to you...
See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312 for answers and links to roms, kernels, and CWM
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But, if you're going to stick with a stock kernel you will need this one. So that cwm recovery flash will actually stick. Flash kernel using odin, boot, power down, pull batt, flash cwm in odin, insert batt 3 finger to recovery, flash no kernel rom, boot.
good day.
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Chopper you seem to be very knowledgable and informed concerning our phone. I have one more question I hope you can answer for me. Are there any advantages to using a non voodoo kernel instead of voodoo kernel with lagfix disabled?
Thank you I appreciate your help. I know a decent amount from post about the general rules for flashing/odin/heimdall/adb/voodoo but most threads on forums do not go into enough detail for the reader to know their limits when experimenting.
Thanks again
chopper the dog said:
LOL, it's your thread.
good day.
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LOL...I dont post very often so I am still learning forum etiquette. I am more of a sit back and absorb guy.
Someone may come by and add to this or offer their own view and tell me that I'm a douche. But Ext4 (voodoo) does come with a small hit to the battery but offering up faster read write speeds and the other changes that may have been added i.e. bln, sound, uv, oc. Now yes you can use a uv'd voodoo kernel with a "disable lagfix" file in place so that your file system with be rfs (extending battery) but marginally slowing some operations down. Since the new voodoo control plus allows for the sound module to be loaded on any kernel on the fly, I find myself at the moment running comm rom 2.1 with an old EB01 kernel in rfs. And I have been real pleased with my battery over the last 3 days since using the "vintage kernel" in rfs, plus also having voodoo sound is a plus. I really missed how the buttons used to light up with the screen, but ever since we've had mesmerize source kernels the buttons need to be touched to light them up when waking the device. You just need to find your own kernel/rom combo for your needs. But I have never been in any race to have the highest quad score, I just like my device to work with the best battery and stability.
good day.