Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
hanming said:
Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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100% correct. Even my $1000 DSLR with a $700 lens looks grainy when I use live view through the LCD (Which is why you almost never see any pro photographers use the LCD). Using a LCD screen (on any camera device) to see what you're shooting is more a general representation of what your aiming at than the actual outcome.
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
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But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
hanming said:
No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
http 4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-Ri8h4lUS2L8/TX2lQDpwQEI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/e-kZtLL93LQ/s1600/IMG_4077 dot JPG
But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
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No problemo
Related
these are for the iphone
but you never know.....
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/12/29/usbfever.light.and.lenses/
If anyone has tried this, a short review would be much appreciated.
The iPhone camera is even worse than the HD, why would you spend money on new lenses, if the picture is always going to be inferior?!
Schooleydoo said:
The iPhone camera is even worse than the HD, why would you spend money on new lenses, if the picture is always going to be inferior?!
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What do you mean??
If you add this lens to the HD it is not necessarily going to lower the quality of the picture. It will just bend the light differently to give you a different zoom or perspective (i.e. fisheye, telephoto), but it is still the HD taking the picture. Just because you put this on an HD does not mean you will lower the picture quality to that of the iphone. Or did I just totally misunderstand your post?
EDIT: Well, I looked at their sample pictures and they don't look good at all. Do you always see that black rim when using their lenses? That would be terrible!
This ?
hey whats that? is it real? where can i get more info about it??
This has been covered before
Hey guys, this has already been covered before, on page 2 of the Blackstone Accessories forum.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470197
I have one and yes they work well, just don't trust the crystal case
Whoops that's where I first saw them on here, but a poster linked back to here....
I'm wondering if I'm alone on this... Coming from the evo 4g, I am extremely underwhelemed by the quality of the camera on this phone.
It has a hard time not blurring things when you take it's picture, whereas my evo could literally snap a picture of a roller coaster at full speed with ease.
It doesn't expose properly and leaves flares everywhere and washed out areas of the picture, if the whole picture isn't destroyed.
You can forget about low light situations, if it's even at dusk the camera won't be able to see anything without a flash.
And then the camera button... Oh my. When I try to use it (and maybe I just have clumsy hands), I can't hold the phone still and then the half way down to focus feature always screws me up. If I press it all the way down, it doesnt bother focusing, it just takes a picture in whatever focus it has. So, I have to carefully press it halfway down, not move, and then take it after. FRUSTRATION.
Sorry for the vent, but the camera was one of my favorite features on the 4g and this phone has taken it from me... 3d or not.
I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks for the article, looks helpful! I can't help my shaky hands though. Maybe I'll design a camera tripod.
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I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Wow. What a article. That should be posted on all *****ing threads about the cam. Make a thread with that link. I bet we wont get another bad pic *****ing....
Edit-Not directed at you Op, i guess just me *****ing
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And then the camera button... Oh my. When I try to use it (and maybe I just have clumsy hands), I can't hold the phone still and then the half way down to focus feature always screws me up. If I press it all the way down, it doesnt bother focusing, it just takes a picture in whatever focus it has. So, I have to carefully press it halfway down, not move, and then take it after. FRUSTRATION.
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I have the same issue with camera button. I now ONLY use the screen button and it works much better.
I'm not sure it's a shake issue or not. But when using the camera button the often come out blurry and when using the screen button they are fine.
Adjusting settings does help but the camera still sucks balls. I'll take iPhone 4 cam vs this one any day.
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I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks a bunch for this. should be stickied
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Richard_Danger said:
I love the camera button. Just hold the camera button down to the first click for 2 seconds, let it focus, the fully press it down and keep your hand still. You'll get a good picture if you do this. But if you move your hand while its taking the picture, then of course youll get a blurry picture. That's user error, not camera error.
Read this:
http://therootofallevo.com/2011/07/evo-3d-getting-the-most-out-of-your-camera-2d-pictures/
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Thanks for the link. Make sure you read to the bottom, that's where he says:
Your new default settings should be: ISO 100, exposure –1, contrast +1, saturation +1, sharpness +1. This is for virtually all good lighting conditions.
Torrentula81 said:
Adjusting settings does help but the camera still sucks balls. I'll take iPhone 4 cam vs this one any day.
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I agree totally! The camera on this phone sucks just like it did on the OG Evo. Who the hell has time to play with all of those settings, taking numerous pictures of the same thing trying to get it right. He is correct we are not professional photographers and if we were we wouldn't be using our phone to do it with. We just want a simple point & shoot camera that gives us good pictures. Even as much as it pains me to say, but like the camera on the iPhone 4. I have taken a bunch of pics & videos with it, inside & out, low light and sunlight and I've always gotten a a great pic/video with auto settings unlike the camera on the OG Evo and Evo 3D. Hell any HTC phone for that matter. They make great phones but they always skimp when it comes to the camera.
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Wow. What a article. That should be posted on all *****ing threads about the cam. Make a thread with that link. I bet we wont get another bad pic *****ing....
Edit-Not directed at you Op, i guess just me *****ing
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Sorry, but no amount of software tweaks will overcome a ****ty sensor and lens. I love my Evo 3D, but the camera sucks ass. The pictures in that link look decent only because they're majorly downsized.
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Sorry, but no amount of software tweaks will overcome a ****ty sensor and lens. I love my Evo 3D, but the camera sucks ass. The pictures in that link look decent only because they're majorly downsized.
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I can post the original sized pictures and for comparison, they look good both ways.
I have to say it's very disingenuous to say that the camera sucks. I have two friends that are professional photographers and they both have been very impressed with the pictures I posted in the article. I looked to them both for advice on this article. Are they perfect? Of curse not. But they are still very good. I dont mean this to be disrespectful, but the problem also seems to be user, not just software. I also want to add that once you change the settings the settings typically stay that way so you don't always have to adjust them. At the end of the day there is a difference between having a bad sensor and having bad software. The EVO 3D is limited to bad software but can be helped by adjusting the settings.
One last thing. I originally posted the pictures in their true size. But thanks to Windows Live not playing nice with WordPress the entire article had to be redone and somehow the size was reduced. I can certainly post the original size later when I get home. I really hope the article helps people out with their picture quality. To those that don't agree, it's fine. Can't make everyone happy lol.
@major thanks for postin the article brosef lol
This post was NOT meant to troll btw! Just trying to shed some light, thank people for their comments, and clarify some stuff.
ONE MORE THING!! Dont use the camera button!! I completely forgot to mention that. But as much as I loved the idea of having a deticated button for the life of me they always come out blurry! I have no idea why. So I just use the onscreen button.
I cant get any good outside shots with the 3vo.... Look at this the first is shot with a sensation the other 3 are taken with my 3vo different settings each time nowhere near as clear focus is off, they are grainy just look plain terrible i literally just walked in from taking these
More taken today
The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
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Ryan00 said:
The problem i am having is the when taking pictures, is the picture always looks dimmed after taking the shot. I could take a picture of the beach on a sunny day and it would look in the picture as if was a coudly day.All my outside shots are dimmed. And forget low light shots.I played around with settings nothing seems to matter. Not sure why check out the picture below, this is a picture on the beach bright sunny day out . Any idea's on whats going on here?
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Wow. That's really bad. I'd say part of the problem is the white balance. I think the EVO's white balance problem is really affecting certain images than others. I'll be going down the shore this weekend. I'll take some beach shots. No reason it should look that bad 0_o
I do wonder if there are some cameras that do have bad sensors... I've heard a few people on Android Central get an exchang and the new phone had better quality with no green tint..
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See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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Holy crap ! this is a good picture for being a a dark room. That would never work or me. I wonder why some people get better pictures then others ?
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See my low lights are amazing i took this in a completely dark room no lights at all
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That does look good. My low light pictures come out really good. There's definitely a software issue going on. But I'm starting to wonder if *possibly* there's some faulty cameras out there.. Ze plot thickens
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I have to say it's very disingenuous to say that the camera sucks. I have two friends that are professional photographers and they both have been very impressed with the pictures I posted in the article. I looked to them both for advice on this article. Are they perfect? Of curse not. But they are still very good. I dont mean this to be disrespectful, but the problem also seems to be user, not just software. I also want to add that once you change the settings the settings typically stay that way so you don't always have to adjust them. At the end of the day there is a difference between having a bad sensor and having bad software. The EVO 3D is limited to bad software but can be helped by adjusting the settings.
One last thing. I originally posted the pictures in their true size. But thanks to Windows Live not playing nice with WordPress the entire article had to be redone and somehow the size was reduced. I can certainly post the original size later when I get home. I really hope the article helps people out with their picture quality. To those that don't agree, it's fine. Can't make everyone happy lol.
@major thanks for postin the article brosef lol
This post was NOT meant to troll btw! Just trying to shed some light, thank people for their comments, and clarify some stuff.
ONE MORE THING!! Dont use the camera button!! I completely forgot to mention that. But as much as I loved the idea of having a deticated button for the life of me they always come out blurry! I have no idea why. So I just use the onscreen button.
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Thanks a bunch for posting that article. Like you said "can't please everybody" Well you sure helped me out. I didn't know jack crap about the settings. Now I got a pretty good idea. I was always just a point and shoot type guy. Never messed with the settings cause I didn't know how they affected the rest of the picture. So thanks again. Anytime someone tries to help out on this site. Actually I think its just the e3d section. Wasn't like this on the hd2 side. You always got some dickhead putting in there 2cents.
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Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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Same issue here
bmxant said:
Is driving me absolutely nuts. Anyone else?
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What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
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What is the issue? That picture doesn't really show much.
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I'm assuming it's the red-ish glow in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
Kadin said:
I'm assuming it's the red glowing in the center? That's the only thing I notice other than my topic listed right by the mouse cursor...
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Ahhhh...gotcha. I went back and looked at it again and noticed it this time. I just got my GS2 and it's still charging, but I'll take some pics when I turn it on and post back with the results.
Is this on all pictures you take?
Here's a picture I just took...
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Kadin said:
Here's a picture I just took...
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That's not as bad, but my Infuse had zero issues, same with my iPhone 3GS.
The lighting is pretty bad in this room as well, so that explains the difference between my photo and yours.
Edit: @SPIDERTECH: It seems to be on ALL photos in crappy lighting. Can't notice it during the day while outside.
Just googled the issue and there are tons of documented cases and complaints out there Seems to be an issue with the hardware.
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
Entropy512 said:
Take a picture of something that isn't viewing-angle-dependent before claiming there's an issue please.
My first instinct is that the camera is somewhat IR-sensitive (this is EXTREMELY common in cell phone cameras due to lack of space for a hot mirror filter) and the screens being imaged have higher IR content when viewed dead-on. (In both pictures, the red spot appears where the camera is viewing the screen dead-on. In the first picture the camera was centered in front of the screen, in the second the camera was at the lower right aimed up and left.)
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That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
bmxant said:
That explains a lot.....So it's not a hardware fault? Just a limitation?
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I'll take a further look at it tonight, but IR sensitivity is not exactly rare in digital cameras, especially cheaper/smaller ones. Good hot mirrors (IR-blocking filters) cost money AND they're large.
Yeah I have the same problem, I took pictures of the tile floor at my parents house, and it had a red center to it also, is their a way to fix this?
Also for the love of god, why does this video camera not have image stabilization? every video is shaky as hell.
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Mine done the red thing with taking a pic of my screen but here is a pic I took outside
http://filehostonline.com/files/1/website/20111003_150501.jpg
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man, that's a great yard and view there!
Hopefully no trouble here ..
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I noticed when I got my DX2 that the camera is fuzzy on certain surfaces. Such as in my house, when I have the hardwood floor in the shot, it looks like TV snow all over it. You can still see the floor, but it has all kinds of interference. When you actually take the picture its not real notjcable. But if you take a video, it is.
Happens with skin close up, countertops etc. Its almost like reflecting light screws it up.
Anyone else? Should I call VZW? Is this something common for this phone? My original DX didn't do it.
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I noticed when I got my DX2 that the camera is fuzzy on certain surfaces. Such as in my house, when I have the hardwood floor in the shot, it looks like TV snow all over it. You can still see the floor, but it has all kinds of interference. When you actually take the picture its not real notjcable. But if you take a video, it is.
Happens with skin close up, countertops etc. Its almost like reflecting light screws it up.
Anyone else? Should I call VZW? Is this something common for this phone? My original DX didn't do it.
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The camera app that is stock is not all that good in my opinion....I had used that first apk for a long time that I posted in your other thread...also as of late I have been using HDR Camera which is good for stills but pictures of people and moving objects it is not the best
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This is a picture with camera zoom,I love it.
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12vnstallr said:
I noticed when I got my DX2 that the camera is fuzzy on certain surfaces. Such as in my house, when I have the hardwood floor in the shot, it looks like TV snow all over it. You can still see the floor, but it has all kinds of interference. When you actually take the picture its not real notjcable. But if you take a video, it is.
Happens with skin close up, countertops etc. Its almost like reflecting light screws it up.
Anyone else? Should I call VZW? Is this something common for this phone? My original DX didn't do it.
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I use four different camera apps. Camera ICS+, lgCamera, Camera ZOOM FX, and PRO Zoom Camera 5X.
Ciao!
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w3aflekki0thqhj/AABqSYnVucDo-QVQeqYJeb2Ba
Anyone have this wonderful issue? I used my note 8 in the exact manner and no issues. No case on the s9+ or anything that could cause this besides a possible hardware issue or I received a lemon. Please check out your camera's and let me know plz. I hope it's just my phone
Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Thanks for the response. I went back outside to take more pics and I noticed the camera module was very reflective. It was like i was reflecting light with a little mirror. I grabbed my note 8 to see how that module's reflected light. At first i barely saw the reflection. Then i had to really put the phone at a major angle to get a brighter reflection. I think the camera module's aren't positioned correctly or designed correctly to avoid recieving the sun's rays in an improper way which then produces these crazy sun rays in the pics. My pics were taken mid day so the sun was kinda just past it's peak height. I took more pics later on with the sun lower and couldn't recreate the crazy flare. This is a deal breaker for me. Do you plan on keeping yours? I called Samsung and they weren't any help. They told me to return the phone and order another if I wanted.. this sucks
Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicated with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
droidrev71 said:
Yeah, it's bad. Just communicate with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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lol Well, if it is the dual aperture, it's a design/manufacturer flaw.
They basically just fed you the "You're holding it wrong" Apple reply, lol.
Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
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It was all from the sun. I had issues with my pics no matter which way I stood.
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Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
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Was the flare similar to mine?
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While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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The pic with the circled artifacts was the first pic I took. The lens was clean toothe best of my knowledge. The following pics didn't have and of those artifacts pop up. Nevertheless, I'm concerned that there is a design flaw. I've owned many phones and have never had such an issue with taking pics with the sun. I was tweeting Samsung support and said the light penetrating into the lens was the reason for the terrible pics. Idk.. the phone is very new so we'll see how many do or don't come forward with this issue. All I know is the afternoon sun was just at the right height to cause the angle that the camera didn't agree with.
It's possible as with wider apertures and very bright out of frame light sources striking the periphery of the aperture you will see this. This can't be avoided even with pro gear hence the use of bulky hoods.
The idea of a two step iris, even in its rudimentary form, is a new frontier for mobile devices and this could be a glaring limitation if not annoying. Just as when driving one uses a visor or their hand, you may have to improvise and provide some shading to limit these artifacts.
Used hand as a shield
Well, took some more pics and the results are terrible. I even had it in video. I used my hand as a shield and away went the lens flare. I even rotated the phone to were the modules were on the opposite side as I normally use the phone during picture and video taking. I think that made it worse. I'm just disgusted.
Another example of me shielding the sun.
Sorry but they were flipped during the upload process.
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droidrev71 said:
Was the flare similar to mine?
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I'll just share
Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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I'll just share
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Thank you for sharing. The speakers and speed are great! I messed with the phone before it was released and thought the speakers were ok. When trying them when I recieved the phone i was very impressed. I take a ton of pics so I don't think I can tolerate this camera issue.
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Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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Fingers crossed!