Whats the chance of someone porting silverlight onto the android os - can you imagine freeview via either tvcatchup or with the dvb-t hack and sky, all on the one device , sadly I know little or nothing about linux/android other than as a user, and even less about writing apps otherwise I would have a go at it myself. Maybe chulri's next project
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Does anyone know if I can run kde-based software on the developer alpha of Ubuntu for tablets yet please? Not expecting reliability, just want to do some child user testing of the edubuntu suite on tablets.
Thanks
Chris
Currently you can't and probably neither in the near futur 'cause you need an X Server for that.
And there is no X server on ubuntu touch.
Huge thanks, that is really useful
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Currently you can't and probably neither in the near futur 'cause you need an X Server for that.
And there is no X server on ubuntu touch.
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After some research on your reply I've a couple questions. Does it mean the Unity interface doesn't need X-server? Or are they just using a temporary workaround until X-server is implemented?
And does this apply to both Ubuntu for Android, and Ubuntu for tablets?
Huge thanks
Having done some further research I've made my decision - thanks hugely for providing the missing link in my knowledge. What follows is my best interpretation of the rumours.
Currently in place of X-server is SurfaceFlinger, ("because X-server uses 30 yr old code" - Canonical). Canonical publicly dabbled with using Wayland until mid-Feb, then decided to create their own revamped display server from scratch, called Mir, which they seem to have been working on since mid last year, and are trying to get GPU vendors to support, written to run across all devices and to meet the needs of the Unity interface, and written in Qt/QML which is what they want native apps written in.
Bottom line for me, is that the technology is still right up there in the clouds and nowhere near decided enough to base my business strategy on. Also, Ubuntu for tablets seems a pretty thin version of Ubuntu anyway, so Edubuntu was never an option and I'm unlikely to be able to leverage much from Ubuntu's Open Source libraries anyway.
Like others, (see the comment on jonobacon.org below), I find it frustrating that the wealth of code written for Ubuntu is no longer usable, but I reckon this is probably necessary to squeeze the most out of every single CPU cycle and milliamp. Ubuntu for tablet is dead in the water if it kills the battery and performs worse than the established competitors.
Therefore all indications are I need to write for Android, keeping my options as open as possible to migrate. So it is now Titanium/UnityIDE versus HTML5, particularly assessing relative performance.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/canonical-announce-custom-display-server-mir-not-wayland-not-x
http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/02/21/five-ubuntu-touch-facts/ -- not the article but the comment starting "In that case, wouldn't it be better to port existing apps instead of...."
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/canonical-working-on-new-display-server
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMwOTM
Just to clarify.
1. There are plans to make a X-Mir compatibility layer that will allow you to run programs that require an X-Server to work with mir.
2. Not all is lost at the moment it just looks that way.
Only Graphical Userinterfaces are affected. Your commandline tools and libraries don't need to be changed.
3. If you are looking for platform to write apps for, well there is worke being done to let you run your QML apps (intended for ubuntu touch) on android.
So if you choose to make QML apps they can be or will be able to run on linux, mac, windows and android
Wow, huge thanks, I missed that.
Does this mean EVERYTHING Ubuntu without a GUI will work? I want to run a NodeJS server. How likely is it that it will work perfectly now? How likely is it that it will work perfectly in the (nominally October 2013) release? (Sorry, just give me a keyword and I'll go off and do my research.)
Is Canonical planning to get X-Mir into the next ~Oct release?
My other query was whether QML on Android would perform as well. For others interested, it looks like it works directly with the Android SurfaceFlinger, bypassing the Dalvik VM, so performance should compare with native Java code.
Huge thanks once again
Chris
Sources:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEkubKZaUt8
http://victorpalau.net/2013/01/25/ubuntu-qml-todo-android-vs-ubuntu/
Hey everyone,
I have created an simple game on Windows (7). The game is great but I think it will be better on a smartphone / tablet.
Now my question. Is it possible to port my game from Windows to Android or do I have to program it from scratch new?
It would be also ok if I can use parts of my code on Android. I have a basic knowledge on androidprograming.
Thanks for every answer, Damdidosch
A) The game is written for a x86 processor and not the ARM processor
B) It is written for Windows (would be a bit easier if it was on linux)
C) You do not own the game and so porting it without source code would be very hard (and would likely result in you being told to remove the app)
So simply its near impossible, would take far to much work and even if you where able to do it its likely you would not be able to release it
Hey!
We know, that we can't run Android apps on Ubuntu Touch. The UT is a great operating system, but it has a big problem. It doesn't have any "neccessary" or "must have" applications NOW. These apps are the following by the community's opinion: FacebookMessenger, WhatsApp, Google Maps, a browser (like Chrome, Opera mini or Firefox), instagram, etc.
So, I want to know, that we are possible to port these (or any other) Android apps to UT, or not? If the answer is yes, i want to create a team. In this team i want to port Android apps, or create this apps alternatives.
Guess not much up in the forums
Request: Simyo Call Status App [Netherlands]
Hi there,
I haven't been on the xda forums a lot since the end of 2009 I believe but, since Canonical announced Ubuntu Touch this year, I have my reasons to pick up browsing the forums again. The Ubuntu Touch region, specifically.
Now, you were asking if there's any Android Apps to port to Ubuntu Touch.
I have a request that might not be of interest to a lot of people but will get pretty important to me once a 'user version' of Ubuntu Touch is released:
Simyo Netherlands provides an App to check your current "Belstatus" or call status.
This app provides me (on my iPhone) with the current remaining minutes/sms messages and remaining data (megabyte) for the current month within the contract.
Below the link to the Android equivalent in the Play Store, which might be portable to an Ubuntu Touch app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.simyo.mijnsimyo
Let me know if this is something you'd be interested in doing.
I might be of some help being a C# programmer, but I still need to check out the Ubuntu Touch SDK (my HTML5 and QML knowledge is poor) and that's something I won't be able to very soon....
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I might be of some help being a C# programmer, but I still need to check out the Ubuntu Touch SDK (my HTML5 and QML knowledge is poor) and that's something I won't be able to very soon....
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I have a little bit of C# knowledge, but i'm good in HTML5, so this is a good beginning i think.
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I have a little bit of C# knowledge, but i'm good in HTML5, so this is a good beginning i think.
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You can port any already existing apps that are found on Android, you just need the API from the app developers.
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same here.. looking to port my android apps to ubuntu touch, developed using java..
is there some porting apps like Command Tools in Blackberry OS10
srdananjaya said:
same here.. looking to port my android apps to ubuntu touch, developed using java..
is there some porting apps like Command Tools in Blackberry OS10
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No, there's no tool like that for Ubuntu Touch (yet?).
I'd be willing to port my Android apps to Ubuntu touch. Does the work need to be done from scratch? Is there a simpler way to port a java, native, android app to Ubuntu?
I can't contribute anything app-wise, but this sounds like a really good idea; best of luck!
Ubuntu-Touch must LIVE! I have use it and it is cool system. Some problems with applications time to time appeares. And it is very hard find developers for apps. But I think if required apps appeares -- more people move to UT. And first of all that system must use NOT for games.
DLevai94 said:
Hey!
We know, that we can't run Android apps on Ubuntu Touch. The UT is a great operating system, but it has a big problem. It doesn't have any "neccessary" or "must have" applications NOW. These apps are the following by the community's opinion: FacebookMessenger, WhatsApp, Google Maps, a browser (like Chrome, Opera mini or Firefox), instagram, etc.
So, I want to know, that we are possible to port these (or any other) Android apps to UT, or not? If the answer is yes, i want to create a team. In this team i want to port Android apps, or create this apps alternatives.
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Till last some years UT has some changes. For example appears OpenVPN network manager in a base apps. But unfortunately that feature with unresolved bugs. Also I didn't find any browsers like QupZilla/Mozilla FireFox or Lynx. So As for me we required updated OS for first. And normal browser. Current versions of browsers are unusable. That i big part of work. For that required powerful developers group. I try to compile and run some examples to UT but unfortunately unsuccessful. But I try. Who also try do something but with successful result?
Hi all
We use a few rugged android devices at work as glorified GPS and mapping units. They work great however today I found out that our main data collection service is updating their android application to use TLSv1.2. From my research it looks like all android devices beyond API level 16 (Jellybean) CAN support TLSv1.2, however it is not turned on by default (whatever that means) before API level 20/21 (KitKat wearable/Lollipop). We have devices running 4.1.1, 4.2.1 and 4.4.4.
There is literally zero chance of getting these devices upgraded to Lollipop. They are made by Getac and Aspera - both small companies. Anyone that uses rugged devices knows that you trade in your access to updates and custom roms etc when you opt for one. They are too much of a niche product to attract developers and the manufactures just want a stable device, not the latest and greatest. They also generally run lower end specifications, so updating to newer OS is not always desired. We have a Getac z710 (http://us.getac.com/tablets/Z710/features.html), one Aspera R5 (http://asperamobile.com/products/aspera-r5/) and three Aspera R6s (http://asperamobile.com/products/aspera-r6/). I am not even sure if they have root solutions available for them...
So does anyone out there with a kind heart and some knowledge want to help see if there is anything that can be done on my end to turn on support for TLSv1.2? Here is some stuff I found so far, but most of it seems like it needs to be done on the server side, not client side.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24357863/making-sslengine-use-tlsv1-2-on-android-4-4-2
http://www.jordanrejaud.com/android/2015/09/19/android-tls-ssl-engine.html
None of these devices are rooted, so everything needs to be done via adb, or i need a root solution...
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Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm trying looking into this myself but haven't found anything that would modify it for the whole OS, only something that would require modifying the source code for an app.
I have the same problem/question:
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Did you ever find a solution for this? I'm trying looking into this myself but haven't found anything that would modify it for the whole OS, only something that would require modifying the source code for an app.
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Is there a known solution that would modify the whole OS, not just an app through a code? I would need TLS 1.2 permanently enabled on Android 4.4.2 KitKat. The phone is rooted, BTW.
OK here's a question for all you android-heads: How to get rid of it ???
Android was originally developed as open source but then Google 'bought it' and converted it to a proprietory system which requires a Google 'account' which colates and tracks personal info across devices and systems. Huawei may finally give us a way out of the Yank back-end snooping problem but that can only be defeated by getting rid of the American OS (Android and IOS) which steal and pass all data directly to American authorities and companies. What happened to privacy ???
Sailfish, Ubuntu touch and Tizen may be useful but it would be infinitely better if we could install our own Linux versions and take back control.
The 'newspeak' labelled "Smartphones' remind me of the old 8088 computers from the 1980's that could hardly be used as they were so basic. "Smartphones' are so very very basic that you cannot even access the root to install your own OS and software. Surely someone can link the ideals of the Rapberry Pi to the advanced hardware of the "Smartphone" to get a device that can actually be used normaly ! THAT will be the day! Oh and by the way - in Australia there existed "Communicators" - just like a "Smartphone", but without Sim cards, using only wi-fi and telephony with mVoIP (but that didn't give billions of $' to the phone companies...) We seem to be going backwards technologically Over and out....
Update 22.12.2019:
A new (really) open source Linux phone has just been announced - the Pine-Phone which can run any Linux system. Details at fossmint pinephone-an-open-source-smartphone-for-linux
Install Armbian if it's kernel supported hardware that you can build a map for. Otherwise there isn't really an option, irritating as that is.