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Does anyone know if there is a mini USB iTip that would work with the Wizard?
Is the mini USB connector pinout standard or specific to the Wizard?
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I would try the one for the razr
I have a moto car chargers that is a mini usb so that should work.
I have the Cingular 8125 (wizard) and the igo razr tip does work with it ... as does the original razr charger and car charger.
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I have the Cingular 8125 (wizard) and the igo razr tip does work with it ... as does the original razr charger and car charger.
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Note that the iGo.com website suggests power tip A53 for Tmo MDA and Cingular 8125
For razr: power tip A32
Both look like mini-USB to me. Any real differences??
Radio Slack didn't have the recommended one, but did have the Razr one. Will that work for sure without brickifying my MDA?
I have an iGo unit and have used the A29 blackberry tip and the A32 RAZR tip. On the back of the tips at radioshack, you'll notice that the A29 is 5.0V at .6 Amps, and the A32 is 5.0 volts .9 Amps. I don't know what the A53 tip has becuse they don't carry it at the shack yet. I do know that both tips do charge my 8125 with no problems. The RAZR tip is faster, as it's higher current. One thing to keep in mind is that if you use the RAZR tip, you'll be able to use it to charge newer moto BT headsets as well without blowing them up.
My next trick is to get the motorola y-cable that breaks out the mini-usb to a mini-usb and the motorola sade so I can charge teh 8125 and an older HS820 at the same time.
Charger for Wizard
The TripleCharger can power the Wizard in conjunction with the X3 adapter. You can find it here:
http://www.electronicmetro.com/triplecharger-x3-for-audiovox-smt5600-cingular-212.html
The TripleCharger uses adapters to charge different devices, but it can charge in your home, your car, or in emergencies (with 2 9V batteries).
I bought the one that RS specs for the Audiovox SMT5600, works like a charm. HTC makes the 5600 for Audiovox, as far as a know.
HTC & Audiovox 5600
Yes, that's correct. HTC makes the Audiovox 5600, along with some carrier-branded smartphones/PDAs like the T-Mobile MDA/SDA, Cingular 2125 & 8125, Verizon's XV-6700 and Sprint's PPC-6700.
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This charger can charge/power the HTC Faraday, Feeler, Hurricane, Magician, Prophet, Tornado, Typhoon, and Wizard, as well as their carrier-branded counterparts.
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morrias said:
I have an iGo unit and have used the A29 blackberry tip and the A32 RAZR tip.
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I had bad luck with the A29 tip. I used it once, and the battery completely discharged after about 5 minutes of charging with it (I couldn't charge with a USB cable, I had to find the original wall charger).
I don't know if this was related to the tip or some other problem, but there's no way I'm plugging my 8125 back into the A29 at this point.
Why get this little contraption when there's this on offer?
http://www.socketcom.com/product/AC4009-614.asp
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=123164
It uses any USB Charging cable so you can charge anything! Also can use normal power adapters with changeable tips. AND it has a 7200mah battery built in to charge on the go. Nice and not tooo pricey
cya
While that product has the cool feature of an internal battery, it requires far more "clutter" to charge the same amount of devices that the triplecharger can. It also costs more than twice what the triplecharger does, which is $30 US.
I just bought the A53 tip for my 8125. I belive the package said it was 5.2 Volts and 1.2 Amps
morrias said:
I have an iGo unit and have used the A29 blackberry tip and the A32 RAZR tip. On the back of the tips at radioshack, you'll notice that the A29 is 5.0V at .6 Amps, and the A32 is 5.0 volts .9 Amps. I don't know what the A53 tip has becuse they don't carry it at the shack yet. I do know that both tips do charge my 8125 with no problems. The RAZR tip is faster, as it's higher current. One thing to keep in mind is that if you use the RAZR tip, you'll be able to use it to charge newer moto BT headsets as well without blowing them up.
My next trick is to get the motorola y-cable that breaks out the mini-usb to a mini-usb and the motorola sade so I can charge teh 8125 and an older HS820 at the same time.
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While that product has the cool feature of an internal battery, it requires far more "clutter" to charge the same amount of devices that the triplecharger can. It also costs more than twice what the triplecharger does, which is $30 US.
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What "Clutter"?
Re: TripleCharger X3 Bundle for HTC smartphones in stock
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We've gotten moderate site traffic in the past month from this site, so I thought I'd let everyone know the TripleCharger X3 Bundle for HTC smartphones is now in stock.
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What is the max. output current can this gizmo supply? I emailed them more than 2 months ago with this same question and they never replied. :?
Clutter: extra cable required to charge ipod, different extra cable required to charge treo 650 + 700, 6V and 9V "booster" connectors required to increase voltage for various devices, such as cell phones (nokias), bluetooth headsets (jabra), and some other palm PDAs. The device itself is also bulky - its essentially a battery pack and not a "charger," and it can only be recharged via a USB cable.
The TripleCharger can plug into home AC outlets and your car's DC outlet, as well as charge your devices by converting the power from 2 9V batteries for emergency situations.
The device also does not have support for many new devices, including the Motorola PEBL/RAZR/SLVR phones, Motorola Q PDA, new nokia flip phones + the N series, and new verizon + t-mobile samsung phones - all of which the TripleCharger can charge... I consulted the "Compatibility Matrix" PDF file for this information which may not be currently updated, but if this is the case it just shows another reason why this product/company may not provide the best charging solution for tech-savvy consumers who use new devices.
The TripleCharger handles all voltage regulation internally and does not require any boosters or extra cables to charge certain devices. Max output is 9V and more than 1 amp; output levels range from 4-9V depending on which adapter is used with the charger.
I run the website for the company and I check our customer service email accounts daily, and MethodMan I apologize for the communication problem but we never received an email from you. Might have been caught in the spam filter, though - do you remember which account you send mail to?
For future reference, you can send questions to [email protected] to guarentee a quicker response than posting in this forum.
question:
will this work with wizard?
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/97419/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs
the review said "this does not convert currant so make sure your device can handle the voltage requirements. "
will wizard work fine on this?
the note said: Works with most consumer electronics (110V - max 275W, 220V - max 550W). Not for use with high-watt devices such as irons and hair dryers.
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Just received "Tomtom Navigator 6 GPS Kit". Didn't test it yet as GPS, still charging.
What I noticed that it comes with the car charger that completely compatible with G-Tab. Connector size and 12V, 2A center positive.
Just to let people know who are looking for the car charger for the Tab.
Have you tried it yet?
I have one that someone gave me, from a broken portable DVD player. It also is rated 12V 2A, but I am afraid to try it.
The weird thing is that they also gave me the wall wart for the same DVD player, and it is rated at 9V 2.2A. That works perfectly for my ZT-180 tablet.
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Have you tried it yet?
I have one that someone gave me, from a broken portable DVD player. It also is rated 12V 2A, but I am afraid to try it.
The weird thing is that they also gave me the wall wart for the same DVD player, and it is rated at 9V 2.2A. That works perfectly for my ZT-180 tablet.
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Tested Bluetooth GPS unit with G-tab... Works perfect on GAdam 1.1.1.
As of charger, I'll give it a shot later on. Will post the results.
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Have you tried it yet?
I have one that someone gave me, from a broken portable DVD player. It also is rated 12V 2A, but I am afraid to try it.
The weird thing is that they also gave me the wall wart for the same DVD player, and it is rated at 9V 2.2A. That works perfectly for my ZT-180 tablet.
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I haven't tried my DVD car charger either because even though it fits, it has a sticker on it that says "Do not use for battery recharging".
SORRY!!!
Made an a$$ of myself.
Have to read more careful... That was input 12V, 2A... Although the plug is the right size.
Unfortunately output is 5V, 2A that does not charge the Tab....
So.... Went to Walmart and bought an inverter: "Philips" model DVDP32.
It charges Tab using regular A/C plug supplied with G-tab.
Price $20.
Now can use the Tab as GPS without draining the battery.
glad that the tomtom gps works!
may I ask which navigation software you use?
I'm still looking for a good one.
hopefully a nice affordable offline nav app...
This is great to know.
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glad that the tomtom gps works!
may I ask which navigation software you use?
I'm still looking for a good one.
hopefully a nice affordable offline nav app...
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Intend to use CoPilot live 8.
Great GPS, have one on my HD2, windows thou.
Nice part is that you're not dependent on any connection, WiFi or 3G.
All maps are pre-loaded and updates coming regularly. It's nice to have it on the phone, but screen is small comparing to G-Tab. Otherwise NA edition costs only $19 right now, discounted from usual $26.
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Intend to use CoPilot live 8.
Great GPS, have one on my HD2, windows thou.
Nice part is that you're not dependent on any connection, WiFi or 3G.
All maps are pre-loaded and updates coming regularly. It's nice to have it on the phone, but screen is small comparing to G-Tab. Otherwise NA edition costs only $19 right now, discounted from usual $26.
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thanks for the tip as well as the deal tip.
but I can't find copilot on my market. (read somewhere that certain apps may not show up if hardware specs aren't fulfilled)
so hopefully I'll be able to find it before the sale ends.
I downloaded CoPilot Live 8 from market.android.com . The US version is only $4.95 and it works great for me with BlueGPS on my Gtab. I am running VegaN 5.1
Got to Radio Shack and get a 12V auto adapter, they sell one that has changeable tips. There is nothing magic about the charger 12V 2A DC that's it.
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Got to Radio Shack and get a 12V auto adapter, they sell one that has changeable tips. There is nothing magic about the charger 12V 2A DC that's it.
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As long as that won't fry the tablet in the long run, sounds like an excellent idea.
Keep in mind that cars run about 13v to 14.6v, so unless the car adapter is already doing some regulation it might be higher than 12v. Personally, to be safe, I would get a cheap auto adapter, crack it open, put a voltage regulator inside to drop it down to something closer to the charger voltage, which IIRC is 7.4v (correct me if I am wrong) The factory charger is 12v 2a, so probably the charger is exactly perfect. But then again, I'm a belt and suspenders kinda guy.
Does anyone know if it is actually fine/good to charge it off 12v? Or is it one of those things that works fine but in a few months will end up frying the internal voltage regulator for the charging circuit because it got too hot or was just at the limit of its capabilities from running at 12v?
Too bad the device wont charge over USB...
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Too bad the device wont charge over USB...
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I know, really wish it did... also wish that it had micro USB, not mini.
Now if only I could open it up and set up the USB power to raise up to the charging voltage and connect that to the charger. I doubt it has the room though. Anyone have pics of the inside?
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Keep in mind that cars run about 13v to 14.6v, so unless the car adapter is already doing some regulation it might be higher than 12v.
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If the auto adapter says that it has an output of 12V 2A, then that is what it will usually output. You can check the voltage fairly easily.
Cocide said:
Personally, to be safe, I would get a cheap auto adapter, crack it open, put a voltage regulator inside to drop it down to something closer to the charger voltage, which IIRC is 7.4v (correct me if I am wrong).
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You're wrong.
It is 12V 2A, I don't know where you got your information from. Why don't you just look at the specs on the power supply?
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If the auto adapter says that it has an output of 12V 2A, then that is what it will usually output. You can check the voltage fairly easily.
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Was under the impression he was using one of the adapters that just gave you power from the car but had no form of voltage control and just a fuse. I had a friend fry a Garmin with a cheap '12 v' adapter that was just fused, so just wanted to make sure.
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You're wrong.
It is 12V 2A, I don't know where you got your information from. Why don't you just look at the specs on the power supply?
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Thanks for the correction, I just didn't have a charger near me to check when I posted. But now I feel a lot better about car charging.
I've been looking for a car charger for my incoming tab, I'll have to check out the shack.
The cheapo' ones from places like monopice or merit line bleed off extra voltage via heat, so they are easy to fry. A good charger that has the proper regulator circuitry to output at it's given rating should not get warm when used.
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I know, really wish it did... also wish that it had micro USB, not mini.
Now if only I could open it up and set up the USB power to raise up to the charging voltage and connect that to the charger. I doubt it has the room though. Anyone have pics of the inside?
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I agree I have changed all of my plugs from mini usb to micro now. =/
Found one
Radio Shack has a 12v 2A charger with interchangable tips. The "B" tip is the one that fits, and I confirm it working. I am an idiot and didn't realize that the tip connections are polarized so I thought the charger was broken at first. Make sure to have the word "TIP" on the connector line up with the "INPUT" on the actual charger.
well..you guys are somewhat right and somewhat wrong.
the 12VDC on a car can be anywhere from 11VDC (engine off, battery low) to 14.5VDC.
Careful with some of the plugs. If they are not regulated, it's just a voltage divider resistor in the power stage and may not be current limited.
On the other hand, if it is current limited, and the tablet starts pulling 2A from a 500mA (most cell chargers) plug, you'll let out the magic smoke that makes it work.
I've got it on the docket to do a true regulated 12VDC / 2A charger as well. I'll see if I can get some cheapies and do some testing to show you guys what I'm talking about but I need to get a small controllable load.
Hi Folks
After digging through mounds of tech docs, I was able to verify that the G-Tab uses the TI TPS658621A power management processor for charging.
Good news - you can plug just about anything into it from 9V up to 18V and it should charge it. Theoretically, it should also support step up charging from USB (trickle charge) but I've yet to prove that. (The power management processor supports it, but it might not be in the hardware.)
Bad news - it's just out of reach for a standard laptop charger (19V) so we still need a converter.
So, if you find a connector that fits it, plug it in. Don't worry about the current draw - as long as it's 1A or GREATER it should work fine (the device won't pull more than an 1A, even though our chargers are spec'd for 2)
Technical specs are available here - http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps658621d.html
This is awesome info! That means for the car all we need is a fused line to the right plug (center positive of course.)
This is great news, this means that the iGO tip that sends out 19v is safe to be used on the GTab.
Thanks for sharing.
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This is awesome info! That means for the car all we need is a fused line to the right plug (center positive of course.)
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While you might be able to do that, I don't recommend it. If you do it anyway, do yourself a favor and NEVER EVER EVER leave it plugged in while you are starting the car.
From Wikipedia:
A second problem is that nominally "Twelve-Volt" power in cars fluctuates widely. The actual voltage will be approximately 12.5 volts when dormant, (less when cold) approximately 14.5 volts when the engine and the alternator/generator are operating, (more when cold) and may briefly drop as low as 5-6 volts during engine start.[7] DC/DC converters will usually compensate for these small fluctuations.[citation needed]
Rarely, more extreme cases of voltage fluctuation can occur when the car battery is disconnected while the engine is running, or when the car receives a jump start. When the battery is disconnected, a load dump transient can produce very high voltages. A car receiving a jump start from a truck will be subject to its 24 V electrical system.[8] A "double battery jump-start" is performed by some tow truck drivers in cold climates.[9]
Design wise one has to take into account intermittent contact, and voltages outside the nominal 12 V DC like top voltage 9-16 V continuously, top voltage at 20 V during 1 hour, 24 V during 1 minute, 40 V during 400 ms.[10] Protection component tolerance example ratings are +50 to -60 V DC[11] Besides this there's also varying temperatures between -40 till +85 °C to contend with that can affect humidity and condensation.[10] Equipment connected this way must tolerate large variations in electrical- and climate environment.
For more, look at table 20-1 in http://www.fordemc.com/docs/download/EMC_CS_2009rev1.pdf which is reference [10] in the Wikipedia article. Granted, that's very conservative, but a 1A 12V low drop out regulator is cheap insurance for a piece of kit like our tablets.
Interesting. If you plug in tablet and that part number into Google you get lots of familiar looking pictures:
http://www.kitarm.com/news/205-cortex-a9-nvidia-tegra2-tablet-pc-with-10.html (and the photos are marked with this site: http://www.okpbw.com/).
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Hi Folks
After digging through mounds of tech docs, I was able to verify that the G-Tab uses the TI TPS658621A power management processor for charging.
Bad news - it's just out of reach for a standard laptop charger (19V) so we still need a converter.
Technical specs are available here - http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tps658621d.html
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This is great news, this means that the iGO tip that sends out 19v is safe to be used on the GTab.
Thanks for sharing.
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Did you read the same post I did? His suggestion is that 19V is too high and still needs to be converted.
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While you might be able to do that, I don't recommend it. If you do it anyway, do yourself a favor and NEVER EVER EVER leave it plugged in while you are starting the car.
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I agree, and thanks for the info. I do ham radio and already know to not plug things in until the car is running, actually learned that from xda years back from cell phone charging. I also use Anderson Powerpoles for the connections, very highly recommend these. This does mean that given the same precautions I already follow I can make up a nice charging cable pretty easily. And I'll certainly look in to the low voltage protection, just in case.
edit:just saw the call sign, 73s!
well unfortunately I can say that this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003MYLLCC
doesnt work
actually it might
it just doenst fit......
sigh
My husband just remembered that we bought a power converter years ago to charge a laptop while traveling in Europe.
Would this work without any problems with the Gtab?
Found the model here: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-jg9JaV...er-Pocket-Inverter-175.html?tab=detailed_info
You mean by plugging in the AC charger to it? Should work fine. The output of the stock charger is about 24W so even if it is grossly inefficient, a 140W power inverter should be fine.
Naturally, I assume no risk, yada yada yada, your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law.
Hey, if it helps anyone at all, I bought this car adapter from the radio shack and it works well. None of the included tips worked with my Gtab, so I cut the tip off my included wall charger and using two of the adapt-a-plug connectors also available at the shack, I made it so I can use the tip on either my wall charger or my car charger. Just gotta remember to take it with me, and of course get the polarity right. Its a regulated 12 volt charger, so it reduces some of the spikes and drops from the car battery, the amperage is correct, and the on/off switch means you can wait to turn it on until after the car is started. Reduces the amount of plugging and unplugging nicely.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3889594
I have a power inverter that also has a USB outlet on it for the car. I have also seen an auto adapter that had just 2 USB outlets on it at dollar store. Are these tpes safe to charge the gTab?
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I have a power inverter that also has a USB outlet on it for the car. I have also seen an auto adapter that had just 2 USB outlets on it at dollar store. Are these tpes safe to charge the gTab?
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GTab can't be charged via USB
Power Brick
So I apologize for what I'm sure is a dumb question but I don't know squat about electricity.
Will this or will this NOT work with a Igo charger. Deals.woot (today only) has a 90W slimline charger that apparently outputs about 19V. The first post would lead me to believe this will not work while a subsequent one indicates it would.
I'm inclined to believe this WILL NOT work but wanted to check.
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So I apologize for what I'm sure is a dumb question but I don't know squat about electricity.
Will this or will this NOT work with a Igo charger. Deals.woot (today only) has a 90W slimline charger that apparently outputs about 19V. The first post would lead me to believe this will not work while a subsequent one indicates it would.
I'm inclined to believe this WILL NOT work but wanted to check.
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Another member reported earlier that he has researched the power management chip on the GTab and it will apparently run up 18v, this justify why many has been using the iGO Asus netbook tip successfully for so long.
Now for the woot deal, I wouldn't bother with a "refurbished" item when you can get the tried and working travel adapter for $18 (shipped) and $20 (for the version with the auto and airplane adapter) there is a confirmed tip that fits the gtab included.
http://www.buy.com/listing/sellerlistings.asp?sku=211343528&buy=0
http://www.buy.com/prod/-igo-40w-un...usb-4-power-tips-for/q/loc/101/219613586.html
Best of luck,
The first post says the top end is 18V by the data sheet. Where have you seen someone quote 20V?
I've been using an iGo netbook charger for 3 weeks without any problem. I found it on sale at Office Depot for $8 the week before they dropped the GTab price to $300. Three weeks is probably only 7 or 8 charge cycles, but I've paid attention looking for hot spots, etc. and haven't noticed anything. I don't love the stiffness of the cable, but it was $8. I'm not complaining.
My only charging "problem" is that the silly thing wakes up when it hits 100% (VEGAn-TAB Ginger). Having the screen come on at full brightness just when I'm falling asleep was funny the first time, but it's getting annoying that I keep forgetting to power it off.
Dan
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The first post says the top end is 18V by the data sheet. Where have you seen someone quote 20V?
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My mistake, I stand corrected, its 18v.
my power adapter plug receiver (male end) on gtablet is bent/broke. is there another option to power?
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my power adapter plug receiver (male end) on gtablet is bent/broke. is there another option to power?
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the end in the tablet itself, or the end with the wire that goes to the wall?
if it's the wire end, you can get new plugs at radioshack. But requires some soldering skill to get them on there.
or you can get a universal 12-18V / 1amp charger with multiple tips.
NewEgg has the Kensington PowerBolt Dual Car Charger (Link) for $20 - $15 MIR. Kensignton specs (Link) say 1.0 A on one port and 2.1 A on second port. Asus on their travel charger (Link) says 2 A or 1.2 A with different voltages on each.
Anyone care to way in on the acceptability for use with the TF101?
Thanks!
Never mind did not see at bottom - Output (30pin/USB): 5VDC-3100mA
sadly I made the mistake of snagging one of these from OD when I got my TF at the recommendation of the sales rep...does not work as you saw at the bottom of the page
These chargers have only 5V on output, you need atleast 12 to charge the TF101.
The Dynex ultimate charger with the multivoltage is the only one I've found to work, I use one and it works great, cable is so much longer! I have it set at 11v
Just a quick note to say this works with the Prime: https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/spares/dctofemaleusbcable/
Using this the PowerGorilla charges the Prime; with the normal USB output it doesn't.
That's all fine and well. Your link is for an adapter that costs less than $10 to use with the Power Gorilla.
HOLY SHEEP ****. A Power Gorrilla charger unit is (at least on Amazon) $225. I s'pose the adapter you linked is useful if you already have a Power Gorilla, but I think you're just better off getting an additonal keyboard dock as a backup battery, given the cost.
Yes I wasn't recommending you buy the PowerGoriila just for charging the Prime.
I got the PG primarily to charge my laptop as it's about the same price as a spare laptop battery. It also charges most of my other equipment, now including my tablet, which means I only have to carry one power adaptor around.