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I was able to play with an X10 and I should say that the hardware is really nice and slick. It looks and feels great, and this is not unusual for SE.
The software, however, sucks big time. Not only it is Android 1.6 based, but it is quite sluggish (it just doesn't feel like a 1GHz Snapdragon device!) and has none of the HTC Sense widgets goodness, nor anything else (and don't even get me started with this strange "timescape" thing). Huge disappointment. Android 1.6 vanilla ROM would've probably been a better choice.
Therefore, the only reason I would consider this device is if I am able to flash a custom ROM on it. And since I REALLY like Sense, I'd love to see it on-board.
Has anyone heard if there are any upcoming X10 custom ROMs?
Thanks in advance!
Man dont wanna be rude but why don you read the other threads? Custom roms are only possible when rootin will be achieved. And atm its not possible. Hopefully in a month or so..but nothing for now. And its not sluggish at all.. Mine runs 20 apps and its v fast. Download some taskkiller if you havnt already.
Buynov said:
I was able to play with an X10 and I should say that the hardware is really nice and slick. It looks and feels great, and this is not unusual for SE.
The software, however, sucks big time. Not only it is Android 1.6 based, but it is quite sluggish (it just doesn't feel like a 1GHz Snapdragon device!) and has none of the HTC Sense widgets goodness, nor anything else (and don't even get me started with this strange "timescape" thing). Huge disappointment. Android 1.6 vanilla ROM would've probably been a better choice.
Therefore, the only reason I would consider this device is if I am able to flash a custom ROM on it. And since I REALLY like Sense, I'd love to see it on-board.
Has anyone heard if there are any upcoming X10 custom ROMs?
Thanks in advance!
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.......................why dont you save yourself the trouble of putting a custom rom on it and just buy a htc?
I know installing roms is not rocket science. But it amazes me that done people can even do that.
Lol @ OP's
knowledge/reading fail.
@rayarny
Did you ever see it running next to a HTC legend? The legend is way smoother on the homescreen, like the fps count seems to be double that of the x10.
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I happen to have both Legend and x10 (well.. actually the Legend is my wifes.)..
Legend smooth... maybe.. a tiny bit.. but it's also a much smaller screen so imperfections like that are more easily hidden.
Certainly NOT enough of a difference to affect the user experience.
This forum is getting out of hand. It is supposed to deal with Rom development.
Is there a moderator that can move the threads to general?
kl25 said:
.......................why dont you save yourself the trouble of putting a custom rom on it and just buy a htc?
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Well, HTC Desire is my second option
It's just that I really like the X10 hardware - it looks and feels very nice. And the screen is a bit bigger.
I recently sold my desire to get an X10, much nicer phone, all we need is Root, and its the best about
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please help me to resolve x10 flashing issue
--> Xperia x10, flashed with 2.3.3
--> Rooted , installed xrecovery
--> Locked boot loader
Steps followed to install FeraLab v29
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1. Booted into xRecovery
2. Install custom ROM
3. Chosen FeraKernel.zip
Failed on certification issue
then Installed CMW recovery, Could not flash ferakernel
Tried to flash Feravolt v29 ROM it works, but stays in SE logo in 1st reboot..
Please help me...
Hello
I see a 2.1 thread but not a 2.2 Is there anyway to update (even if it is custom) the X10 Mini to Android 2.2? Thanks.
Maybe wait for the Official Android 2.1 to come out first?
No news of 2.2 as of 12-oct-2010
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Maybe wait for the Official Android 2.1 to come out first?
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Well as you, I, and most others know, 2.1 wont come in a long time despite what OEMs say. Same thing happens always.
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Well as you, I, and most others know, 2.1 wont come in a long time despite what OEMs say. Same thing happens always.
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so why ask then? why even create a thread?
Exactly, probs due to impatience... were all waiting, thats all we can do.
2.2 I think only custom roms
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^^ I Doubt that also
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so why ask then? why even create a thread?
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Because I know custom ROMs exist.
Please, if you dont wish to help out, then simply do not post. Thank you
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Because I know custom ROMs exist.
Please, if you dont wish to help out, then simply do not post. Thank you
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Unfortunately, we dont have custom ROM for X10.. We are still trying to crack the bootloader..
We'll wait ... really need iptables.
But do you think that it will be able to update to 2.2?
It'll really nice if it will be possible, because if we can have the programs on sdcard we can multiply our capacity...
2.1 custom ROM is ready for X10 (only video playback not working) & 2.2 ROM is also partially ready except a few glitches which will hopefully be sorted out in this thread. So we the Mini / Pro /x8 users may expect a 2.2 ROM in future. Moreover. Bin4ry is pretty active in "Custom ROM dev" in x10 forum. He may use his expertise to build a 2.2 ROM for our Minis provided the project is successful for x10 and Bin4ry gets adequate time.
Thanks and hope for the best to happen soon.
wud love to run 2.2 on mini
APista said:
But do you think that it will be able to update to 2.2?
It'll really nice if it will be possible, because if we can have the programs on sdcard we can multiply our capacity...
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We can already do that.
Mine has app2sd working on 1.6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804574
You may also like this thread for interesting links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840356
Regards,
Esse nome não está, por acaso, ligado a um blog do Benfica, está?
Cumprimentos.
Now that a vanilla 2.1 ROM is available (but with bugs) for the x10, maybe someone can port it for the mini/mini pro?
What I want in a custom rom is;
A widget screen that can handle more than one widget per page.
A aGPS method that can get a fix in less than 10 minutes. (get time fix, use DL data, done in <30 secs)
Multi-touch gestures. (like pinch zoom)
Gesture actions, (like turn phone over to reject call!)
If SE wants to keep all the mini people on SE's experience then they better get cracking. Already dumped timescape and roadsync, whats next?
Netfilter support so we can tether
A widget screen that can handle more than one widget per page.
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You can use launcher pro or ADW or any other homescreen replacements to get multiple widgets per screen.
A aGPS method that can get a fix in less than 10 minutes. (get time fix, use DL data, done in <30 secs)
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Your GPS takes 10 minutes to lock? You'll get lost on the road man! Mine takes less than a minute + offline maps that instantly plots your location once you get a lock.
Multi-touch gestures. (like pinch zoom)
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Multitouch will be included on an upcoming OTA update:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...-for-xperia-x10/comment-page-1/#comment-89746
dunno if the minis are included.
IMO, the best thing we need for a custom ROM is freedom from bloatware and hardware lockups by SE thus giving us a real performance boost.
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2.1 custom ROM is ready for X10 (only video playback not working) & 2.2 ROM is also partially ready except a few glitches which will hopefully be sorted out in (link) thread. So we the Mini / Pro /x8 users may expect a 2.2 ROM in future. Moreover. Bin4ry is pretty active in "Custom ROM dev" in x10 forum. He may use his expertise to build a 2.2 ROM for our Minis provided the project is successful for x10 and Bin4ry gets adequate time.
Thanks and hope for the best to happen soon.
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Sounds good. The 2.1 update was alright, it made my x10mini last a bit longer(it seems), but i would really like some speed optimizations which supposedly are in 2.2 among some even better batt. life
Cheers on all the work you guys are doing
I´m very confused with the number of options in ROMs for Xperia X10. With the amazing jog of so many developers, i just can't choose a ROM for me.
So i´m asking. Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?
Thnks!
If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
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Gotta agree with that . Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949457
I'm using the latest stock ROM with all good tweaks to make it very fast and responsive.
Things from my sig + max events per second=26 thing and heapsize=26m
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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Use flashtool.
Well this one looks ok too Blue Sparks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892688
TriP's MIUI
LoL Didn't you read? "Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?"
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I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
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This rom is good,but shangmail can not run smoothly using this rom.
GN Multimedia - X10i
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If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
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I hope they can come up with a fix for this soon
It is the only reason why I'm still with stock rom.
stock rom maybe . eclair 2.1
Look like i´ll be on stock for a while.
Let's hope developers solve the problem with the camcorder on 2.2 and 2.3 soon. Maybe Arc shed a light on the cause of this.
well
the last i was on eclair
i was usin this kx rom
its nice n fast n everythin works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
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Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
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It's indeed sad & that's going to be the case with arc as well I suppose , right? Sorry I got of topic, I recommend KX10 & Blue Sparks
+1 for kxhawkins rom I think the linked worked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
FreeX10 is awesome too but I need the functionality.
hey
just curius, what would the advantages be of a custom kernel for the atrix ?
normally i think custom roms is good if you have some flaws on the phone you want to fix (filesystem on SGS or too low internal memory on the desire) but the atrix is more or less perfect as it is so why do people complain so much about the locked bootloader ?
Get rid of blur, and anything that runs in the background you can't stop from running. Wifi hotspot without paying. Less lag. Less force closes. Those are a few possibilities.
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Get rid of blur, and anything that runs in the background you can't stop from running. Wifi hotspot without paying. Less lag. Less force closes. Those are a few possibilities.
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so basicly zero advantages since this can be done without a custom kernel ?
Pretty much xD
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Pretty much xD
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i wonder why people complain so much about the locked bootloader then
Theres really not too much. My evo friends are always talking about how the custom kernals are more efficient but we have so much power its not an issue. They always have problems with there custom roms and kernals. Everything never works all the time.
But they could make our phone more customizable, the possibilites would be endless if we had a unlocked bootloader.
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Theres really not too much. My evo friends are always talking about how the custom kernals are more efficient but we have so much power its not an issue. They always have problems with there custom roms and kernals. Everything never works all the time.
But they could make our phone more customizable, the possibilites would be endless if we had a unlocked bootloader.
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yeah thats what i figured, custom kernels is good on the old phones lige galaxy s, htc desire etc.
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yeah thats what i figured, custom kernels is good on the old phones lige galaxy s, htc desire etc.
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yeh i kind of think thats motos point with the locked BL basicaly there saying that there phones are good the way they are and don't need to be fuxed with.... personally i am pretty content with it as it.. just threw launcher pro on .. didnt even really freeze motoblur stuff with titanium(cuz i dont know how or what to freeze) but as for lag... never once had a problem with it.. even on the lapdock things run smooth as i could ask for.. great device... absolutely great... people can say what they will about moto... but i definitely think they stepped up there game with this device..
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hey
just curius, what would the advantages be of a custom kernel for the atrix ?
normally i think custom roms is good if you have some flaws on the phone you want to fix (filesystem on SGS or too low internal memory on the desire) but the atrix is more or less perfect as it is so why do people complain so much about the locked bootloader ?
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I think one of the main advantages is a custom recovery. This allows for the easy implementation of roms, themes, and hacks via zips. Nandroid backups is another useful feature.
With custom kernals comes overclocking, undervolting, kernal optimizations, screen fixes, and many other tweaks.
The fuss about it is this....its our bloody phone. We pay hundreds of dollars for a device and should be able to what we want with it. Its the same as the sony vs geohot fiasco. Its our hardware, let us play.
The phone is great now. Id say the most powerful android device. But in six months or even a year from now there will be devices just as or more powerful on the market. Without kernel access devs can't fine tune or maximize the hardwares potential. So in six months when you could have the latest and greatest ported over to your atrix to keep up with tech trends well be stuck with what moto allows us to have.
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You can put stock gingerbread on the atrix?
Its nice to have the gingerbread notification status bar and keyboard in the roms available, but they didn't just change things cosmetically with GB.
Also what happens when Motorola stops supporting the device after maybe one big software release? Locked bootloader means no new version of android past what Moto may deliever us.
This hardware is quite capable, but that doesn't mean Moto won't release an Atrix 2 next year and but the next version of android on that and leave us out in the cold.
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I think one of the most important benefits is a fringe benefit - with an unlocked bootloader, more devs are motivated to work on the device and hence more customization options even though many of them don't really require a custom kernel.
Ok dudes, Sony announced that the ICS upgrade may not be a good idea regarding device performance.
I know that I will not update my phone, since I don't see any use for it. Already tried ICS on transformer, and didn't see much reason to risk any performance issues.
Feel free to write your own opinion.
I don't mind the thing regarding device performance or its effect on the battery since I do not use the phone for gaming or something; just browsing/sms/calls/music/videos&photo and it lasts 24hours or more *am currently satisfied and using stock with no tweaks*. I like to try something new
i will try ICS
I will surely update to ICS as the web browsing is better in it and i mainly use it for calling and browsing
Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
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I don't mind the thing regarding device performance or its effect on the battery since I do not use the phone for gaming or something; just browsing/sms/calls/music/videos&photo and it lasts 24hours or more *am currently satisfied and using stock with no tweaks*. I like to try something new
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am using mini pro buddy but my battery doesnt last upto dat... if i should browse heavily on it, it wont last up 4-5hours!!! but music playing is ok. sometimes my battery drops without usage.
am gonna update for sure... love ICS!
Sure gonna try it.... But can anyone tell if sony releases official ics..... Then our devs will be abe to solve most of the present bugs ?!
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You'll never know, if you don't try... if we can revert to ginger then it's not a problem..
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Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
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Do you know something about development at least? Sony has to put all the Timescape and xperia interface to it and stuff, Thats the main problem, is not just a clean rom.
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batman368 said:
Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
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It does not mean that sony has excellent or worse devs, they have to integrate other things like their xperia facebook sharing and other stuffs possibly including another new drm feature *yes it is minor* but they also have to ensure that it will be stable and good on our phone; remember ICS was built and designed for a powerful phone so it will take a while to port it to our phones; i.e. bugfree, stable and easy on battery.
There is already a thread with the same type of discussion...
As I said on that particular thread, all current ICS users (kamarush,exMIUI,CM9), what is your battery drain %/hour? Because mine with Spartan Rom is around 0,5%/hour with 2g only active, and in deep sleep mode.
IF Sony's 4.0 manages to have that sort of battery drain I will update. Until then, GB is more than enough for me.
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Do you know something about development at least? Sony has to put all the Timescape and xperia interface to it and stuff, Thats the main problem, is not just a clean rom.
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I just heard that the official ICS update is postponed again, mid april for the first few 2011 xperias, mini and mini pro coming later, like end of may to mid june:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/
I can see it's tough to put all those things in a ROM, and I agree on the longer testing period. At least Sony does release updates, we should be happy we don't have a SGS
mid Aprils is NOW!
Haven't seen anything about a released version for the Arc S yet, but it should be just around the corner. Let's see if Sony keeps the revised schedule.
I will update my SK17i as soon as there is a final ICS available. Let's see if it will be CM or Sony ;-)
Tested CM9 (RC0, 115) already and it looks promising. The BT media issue made me switch back to stock for now.
Alex
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Haven't seen anything about a released version for the Arc S yet, but it should be just around the corner. Let's see if Sony keeps the revised schedule.
I will update my SK17i as soon as there is a final ICS available. Let's see if it will be CM or Sony ;-)
Tested CM9 (RC0, 115) already and it looks promising. The BT media issue made me switch back to stock for now.
Alex
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if Sony dont want to update to ICS our xperia 2011 for low end device such as xperia mini/pro, live for walkman etc. Why dont they just make it open source for our device just like beta for Play or Ray? They afraid they will lost customer but they already lost many customer. Thats why they use promotion for new device but same performance. Stupid strategies.
Xperia Mini and others are not low-end devices. First, specs are higher than some devices. Second, these phones are inside same as Arc, Ray, Neo. Chipset is the same. That means if ray gets ICS, then others can have it also.
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