Ok dudes, Sony announced that the ICS upgrade may not be a good idea regarding device performance.
I know that I will not update my phone, since I don't see any use for it. Already tried ICS on transformer, and didn't see much reason to risk any performance issues.
Feel free to write your own opinion.
I don't mind the thing regarding device performance or its effect on the battery since I do not use the phone for gaming or something; just browsing/sms/calls/music/videos&photo and it lasts 24hours or more *am currently satisfied and using stock with no tweaks*. I like to try something new
i will try ICS
I will surely update to ICS as the web browsing is better in it and i mainly use it for calling and browsing
Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
Kira.Lawliet said:
I don't mind the thing regarding device performance or its effect on the battery since I do not use the phone for gaming or something; just browsing/sms/calls/music/videos&photo and it lasts 24hours or more *am currently satisfied and using stock with no tweaks*. I like to try something new
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am using mini pro buddy but my battery doesnt last upto dat... if i should browse heavily on it, it wont last up 4-5hours!!! but music playing is ok. sometimes my battery drops without usage.
am gonna update for sure... love ICS!
Sure gonna try it.... But can anyone tell if sony releases official ics..... Then our devs will be abe to solve most of the present bugs ?!
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You'll never know, if you don't try... if we can revert to ginger then it's not a problem..
batman368 said:
Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
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Do you know something about development at least? Sony has to put all the Timescape and xperia interface to it and stuff, Thats the main problem, is not just a clean rom.
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batman368 said:
Performance issues are made up by sony. the miniCMsandwhich by Kamarush is running really well, everything is buttery smooth. and battery is really ok, too.
so if sony would put some serious effort into ICS, I'm sure they could make it run, I think they just look for an excuse to sell new phones and not put any effort in old phones.
although it doesn't look like sony will make a new keyboard-phone, at least i haven't read about any.
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It does not mean that sony has excellent or worse devs, they have to integrate other things like their xperia facebook sharing and other stuffs possibly including another new drm feature *yes it is minor* but they also have to ensure that it will be stable and good on our phone; remember ICS was built and designed for a powerful phone so it will take a while to port it to our phones; i.e. bugfree, stable and easy on battery.
There is already a thread with the same type of discussion...
As I said on that particular thread, all current ICS users (kamarush,exMIUI,CM9), what is your battery drain %/hour? Because mine with Spartan Rom is around 0,5%/hour with 2g only active, and in deep sleep mode.
IF Sony's 4.0 manages to have that sort of battery drain I will update. Until then, GB is more than enough for me.
ChavitoArg said:
Do you know something about development at least? Sony has to put all the Timescape and xperia interface to it and stuff, Thats the main problem, is not just a clean rom.
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I just heard that the official ICS update is postponed again, mid april for the first few 2011 xperias, mini and mini pro coming later, like end of may to mid june:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/products/2012/03/30/the-vans-around-the-corner-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-software-upgrade-coming-to-2011-xperia-smartphones-starting-from-mid-april/
I can see it's tough to put all those things in a ROM, and I agree on the longer testing period. At least Sony does release updates, we should be happy we don't have a SGS
mid Aprils is NOW!
Haven't seen anything about a released version for the Arc S yet, but it should be just around the corner. Let's see if Sony keeps the revised schedule.
I will update my SK17i as soon as there is a final ICS available. Let's see if it will be CM or Sony ;-)
Tested CM9 (RC0, 115) already and it looks promising. The BT media issue made me switch back to stock for now.
Alex
alexander.kilian said:
Haven't seen anything about a released version for the Arc S yet, but it should be just around the corner. Let's see if Sony keeps the revised schedule.
I will update my SK17i as soon as there is a final ICS available. Let's see if it will be CM or Sony ;-)
Tested CM9 (RC0, 115) already and it looks promising. The BT media issue made me switch back to stock for now.
Alex
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if Sony dont want to update to ICS our xperia 2011 for low end device such as xperia mini/pro, live for walkman etc. Why dont they just make it open source for our device just like beta for Play or Ray? They afraid they will lost customer but they already lost many customer. Thats why they use promotion for new device but same performance. Stupid strategies.
Xperia Mini and others are not low-end devices. First, specs are higher than some devices. Second, these phones are inside same as Arc, Ray, Neo. Chipset is the same. That means if ray gets ICS, then others can have it also.
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I´m very confused with the number of options in ROMs for Xperia X10. With the amazing jog of so many developers, i just can't choose a ROM for me.
So i´m asking. Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?
Thnks!
If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
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Gotta agree with that . Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949457
I'm using the latest stock ROM with all good tweaks to make it very fast and responsive.
Things from my sig + max events per second=26 thing and heapsize=26m
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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I hd install Eminence's ROM once, and I satisfy with it. But after latest update from SEUS, my x10i is not able to use this ROM anymore. It just stuck on boot animation. Any idea how to fix this?
But I will try to install honeycom one. It seem better.Still downloading. Thanks for the information. Thanks...
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Use flashtool.
Well this one looks ok too Blue Sparks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892688
TriP's MIUI
LoL Didn't you read? "Which is the best ROM (speed, stability and feature wise) for people who don't want to loose features of the phone (especially camcorder, camera and wifi)?"
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I am using go3asy's 2.1 rom honeycomb look. It everything work n smoother than stock rom.
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This rom is good,but shangmail can not run smoothly using this rom.
GN Multimedia - X10i
gohwh1 said:
If you wan HD camcorder, you can only stay at stock rom.
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I hope they can come up with a fix for this soon
It is the only reason why I'm still with stock rom.
stock rom maybe . eclair 2.1
Look like i´ll be on stock for a while.
Let's hope developers solve the problem with the camcorder on 2.2 and 2.3 soon. Maybe Arc shed a light on the cause of this.
well
the last i was on eclair
i was usin this kx rom
its nice n fast n everythin works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
javagreen said:
Best ROM for those who don't want to lose functionality? Stick to the official SE firmware [including official updates].
Sony don't give a crap if we run 2.2, 2.3, or even 2.4/3.0 on it - and it's because of the simple fact that it's just a firmware. That's all what it really is. Only 'firmware' and *not* a ROM.
It's the consequence of SE's DRM stronghold on the encrypted bootloader, signed with a 1024 bit RSA key. We're looking at years of bruteforcing to be able to break in, which frankly neither is feasible nor worth the while.
And that is why nobody from SE cared enough to even bat an eyelid when one XDA user mailed their tech support representative complete with screenshots of his X10 running the 2.2.1 firmware, a link to a thread from XDA alongwith some XDA Dev namedropping. It's easy to realize that if this was a significant development, SE would've been all over our [XDA's] ass a long long time ago.
As much as I hate it, I think it's about time we came to terms with the reality. A fully functioning port is not going to happen. Atleast not until someone manages to dethrone the bootloader from it's current position
And no, it's not because the Dev's here don't have the technical know how required to do so, but rather it's because SE have ensured it wouldn't be worth anybody's while attempting a go at it.
Sad but true.
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It's indeed sad & that's going to be the case with arc as well I suppose , right? Sorry I got of topic, I recommend KX10 & Blue Sparks
+1 for kxhawkins rom I think the linked worked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
FreeX10 is awesome too but I need the functionality.
Hi everyone
So, the ICS for our beloved S2 is out and everyone seems happy about it.
However, after all this wait, I installed it on my SGS2 and did not see big difference or great features compared to the 2.3.5.
So, I wonder if you guys can share your experience with the ICS and tell us about the great features that we can not see.
Thanks so much
ghareb said:
Hi everyone
So, the ICS for our beloved S2 is out and everyone seems happy about it.
However, after all this wait, I installed it on my SGS2 and did not see big difference or great features compared to the 2.3.5.
So, I wonder if you guys can share your experience with the ICS and tell us about the great features that we can not see.
Thanks so much
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Try the post in general that tells you all that stuff .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544557
jje
Great features of ICS ?
That it's causing people to mindlessly start threads about issues that don't have anything even remotely to do with development (given this is stock firmware that has been released/people are flashing) without thinking of a possible solution on their own for a moment, or without using a bit of logic and first considering what fixes a problem in GB might well fix the same problem in ICS.
Yes, I'm joking when I say it's a 'feature' (maybe). :-|
To be fair, I love the new update, but i'm not on stock, i'm using DarkyRom.
The face unlock works well for me, and I like it, keeps my pesky mates going through my phone. Battery life is good, 10 hours and it's still at 60% with basic to strong usage.
The GUI is better on DarkyRom than Stock Samsung imo.
3G speeds have increased for me, just feels much quicker and responsive. Wifi is the same as GB though. Browsing speeds seem to of been increased. overall I like it. One thing I would like is volumefix, but will wait till CM9 is officially released or something simillar.
Better multitasking and stock ics ui
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hey guys i have been wondering this question for a while but what is so great about the ics update anyway,can you tell me why everyone loves it.
hi, yeah it's starting to become a pet peeve of mine as well i feel. i'm on stock gb 2.3.5 and i'm glad i haven't downgraded to ics on my gs2 (Three network uk).
what's the point? no big changes , you loser app compatibility for the foreseeable future anyway) and it takes more than 200 megs of space.
but my major reason for not updating or downgrading to ics is because I've read somewhere that it's not good on battery consumption. also it's not the FULL MONTY as well! WTF!!!
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I tried it for a day, disliked how it connects to the pc as a phone not storage device.
Im on GB, and its more reliable also when ics hung it took a while to tell me the program crashed then the app behind it would be reported as not responding also, by then i would have turned the display off and do something else
ICS will be great when mods play with it, the performance is great and its all smooth,i guess dual core has been improved.
The battery life wasnt better due to bloatware running in the background,exchange email was running without any email given
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For me, I think the official ICS still lacks many performance issues. Should wait for a while before a couple more updates are released.
CM9 however seems more promising.
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hey guys i have been wondering this question for a while but what is so great about the ics update anyway,can you tell me why everyone loves it.
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Statement not true .
Lemmings has rushed for ICS true .
jje
So is an official ICS update still in the pipeline?
Because I'm waiting to flash a custom ROM based on the official one...
Regards, Simon.
swimon said:
So is an official ICS update still in the pipeline?
Because I'm waiting to flash a custom ROM based on the official one...
Regards, Simon.
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yes it's supposed to come in a month's time or so..
End of May / beginning of June.
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we are waiting also
Confused... should I root or wait for official ICS...
hope so .....
assasins007 said:
Confused... should I root or wait for official ICS...
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You can root anyway, it will not affect ICS.
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Start to try with some custom rom, and when ICS will be official released you can do a comparative and choice your favourite one.
I don't think that will be problem. Am i wrong?
Someguyfromhell said:
You can root anyway, it will not affect ICS.
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Yes it's ok to root when you cant wait to use ics try a custom rom first and when the official update is released zou can still flash it via wotan
Sorrz for mz bad english
KhemaraS. said:
Yes it's ok to root when you cant wait to use ics try a custom rom first and when the official update is released zou can still flash it via wotan
Sorrz for mz bad english
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Wotan is paid, Flashtool is better now
Good to hear it is still coming,
Another question: Will ICS give the minipro a preformance boost or would it do the opposite?
swimon said:
Good to hear it is still coming,
Another question: Will ICS give the minipro a preformance boost or would it do the opposite?
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Likely will do the opposite as ICS needs more power to run smoothly with all the new functions.
hmmm,
I was hoping it was going to be like when I went from Froyo to Gingerbread on my HTC Desire, there were a lot of preformance improvements and also battery improvements.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Grtz
swimon said:
hmmm,
I was hoping it was going to be like when I went from Froyo to Gingerbread on my HTC Desire, there were a lot of preformance improvements and also battery improvements.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Grtz
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However, although ICS is new and compelling in many ways, we would like all of our users to make an informed decision when selecting what Android™ software to use. We are actually proud to say that our Gingerbread software is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea to stay on this release. Ice Cream Sandwich is more intensive, for example in terms of resource usage. As smartphones become more capable, our own applications, as well as the Google Mobile Services (GMS) applications, are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM. On the other hand, ICS brings a refined UI and some nice new features as described below.
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http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/2012/03/30/learn-about-the-technical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics/
Thanks for the link.
What I understand from this article is that ICS uses more RAM. But this is in fact not really a big issue, because android decides for itself which apps will run and which will be closed? I don't care if an app I opened 2 hours ago will be automatically closed.
Or is this not the right way to think about it?
Well, since everything WILL be more Ram consuming, and you're not really looking for extreme multitasking (even with 180MB of free Ram, if i exit Temple Run by pressing the home button, read a message and re-enter it will reload the game), then i suppose that the way ICS is built, it will be a win-lose situation. You will lose in terms of multitasking, but "might" win in terms of speed and battery usage.
swimon said:
Thanks for the link.
What I understand from this article is that ICS uses more RAM. But this is in fact not really a big issue, because android decides for itself which apps will run and which will be closed? I don't care if an app I opened 2 hours ago will be automatically closed.
Or is this not the right way to think about it?
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Android itself uses more RAM, leaving less free RAM, means less multitasking and possible lag in games.
Also, processor usage will be higher.
dumraden said:
Well, since everything WILL be more Ram consuming, and you're not really looking for extreme multitasking (even with 180MB of free Ram, if i exit Temple Run by pressing the home button, read a message and re-enter it will reload the game), then i suppose that the way ICS is built, it will be a win-lose situation. You will lose in terms of multitasking, but "might" win in terms of speed and battery usage.
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I agree with dum..
Hi,
I have just got the Xperia U for the wife and was wondering if its worth 'upgrading' it to ICS before giving it to her.
It has to be stable, and quick. She is coming from a Galaxy ace so I know this phone will feel quicker straight away cus its better spec'd. I just dont know if its worth keeping it on gingerbread cus she will NOT be flashing custom roms like the majority of us do on here.!!!!
What do youse think I should do?
I had to do this recently for my mum.
Flash the C firmware, root it and add cwm.
Delete all the pointless apps, delete the boot and shutdown animations from t mobile. Flash the 4.7.2 camera mod and status bar toggles. It seems really nice to use so far! She's not compained about anything so far with it
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
thanks! this is a great little phone. nice and user friendly. kinda wanted to keep it stock for her tho, cus the more i change the more likely im guna grab the phone off her and check it for kernel updates etc. !
I do like the idea of removing all the junk software that lots of branded phones come with. But the one i got her is already unlocked and doesnt come with a lot of bloat as standard.
maybe i should of asked, shall i keep this phone Stock Gingerbread, or stock ICS?
Technically what I said is still stock ics, it just removes the junk to make the phone smoother and faster
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Ben36 said:
Technically what I said is still stock ics, it just removes the junk to make the phone smoother and faster
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ah i didnt realise the C firmware u mentioned was stock ICS t-mobile, i understand now. thanks m8
Yea. It's the latest firmware. But the only available version is branded t mobile, hence the root and removing like i did. Then its just a plain rom again
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ICS is loads quicker, I put on the b54 one I think it was as its generic, then I just rooted and removed some of the junk and it runs well, loads better than GB.
Ben36 said:
I had to do this recently for my mum.
Flash the C firmware, root it and add cwm.
Delete all the pointless apps, delete the boot and shutdown animations from t mobile. Flash the 4.7.2 camera mod and status bar toggles. It seems really nice to use so far! She's not compained about anything so far with it
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S
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Or just flash my generic nordic ftf which is pretty bloatfree, just a hint to OP.
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You should go for ICS, it's quite smooth and easy to use. Also install one of those apps that makes the transparent bar work as notification light.
Yeah.. you should go with the ICS...
Having this same thought, for my gf that recently got an Xperia U.
The thing is, it works fine for her now. Would it be oh so much better for her to upgrade to ICS.
It at least needs to be just as snappy as Gingerbread and I'm reading quite some negative reviews about the ICS update. Less snappy and everything. Confusing reviews as you all here are very positive about the ICS update.
But you can hear it coming already if ICS makes it slower "Sweety, you made my phone slow!!!"