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So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
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So Im sure any of you on Tmo UK will be aware of this new option they've given us whereby you can opt-in to use the orange networks if you lose reception from Tmobile........
I thought to myself "yeah...... why not..... cant hurt"
Seeing as I barely get a 3G / HSDPA signal where I live I thought that perhaps it might kick into "orange mode" and give me some 3G action.... (sadly it doesnt)...
Anyway since I opted in Ive noticed that sometimes when Im on the Tmo/Orange signal, the "Edge" (E) symbol is displayed in my taskbar......
Its definitely a lot faster than GPRS but doesnt seem to be as quick as HSDPA, I thought that perhaps it was there in place of the 3G symbol but sometimes that will appear too.....
I thought "Edge" was only available in the US.....
Does Orange have some kind of in between speed that I was previously unaware of??
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I don't know it fore sure, but France Telecom (Group holder of Orange) have invest a lot in UMTS maybe it's that you got.
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in order of speed, edge has been used in the uk for years
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
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Didnt realise that........
about edge anyway........
cheers...
Don001 said:
So you texted Yes to 2121 as well.. I honestly cannot spot any difference, still haven't gotten Orange coverage yet
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lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
it perhaps won't auto switch networks, because it knows t mo is the preferred network, unless there is no t mo reception at all.
you maybe need to add the orange network as a preferred network
settings menu all settings personal phone network tab set networks let's you set the preferred order and such, so if you find yourself in an orange dominant area move orange above tmo in the list.
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lol you probably wont need it in London........
coverage is poor out here in the sticks though..........
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OK I'm generally a proud Londoner (Not a bad thing lol).. But sometimes I've been in the middle of Oxford Street and notice I have no reception, London isn't a great place for good reception is some areas, you get better reception in residential areas then main high streets
@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
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@sam...
Mine seems to switch even when I have a reasonable amount of signal.
9 times out of 10 today when I looked at my phone I had the roaming and edge symbols sitting in my taskbar....
I generally never struggle for basic network coverage so I was surprised at how often I'm on orange signal...
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good to know, i guess it must do some signal strength comparing.
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@don..
Yeah I guess there are plenty of things that could hamper you're signal...
Maybe it's that famous london smog I've heard so much about
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Maybe lol
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I've also just signed up to this as I get poor signal thru T-Mobile when in some buildings whilst at work.
Problem is that I've noticed a significant drain in battery since subscribing presumably as the phone is always comparing signal strength of both Tmo and Orange and switching between the two periodically.
Is there a way to change carrier manually through some form of *#*# dial code rather than to switch to manual and select the desired network as this takes a while? I don't seem to have the option to set my preferred networks as a previous poster mentioned.
I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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I've had mixed experience with this - make sure your sense and activesync settings are set to NOT download data when roaming - the Orange/T-mobile thing calls itself roaming and I kept getting password incorrect responses from gmail on activesync, I assume because it was trying to access the servers from different IP addresses rapidly. You do not get 3G etc from Orange - your data comes over t-mobile, you just roaming onto the Orange network when there is no signal on t-mobile, so it should give you better call coverage, but for data switch off roaming so it only tries to access data when on t-mobile.
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Are you saying that there are charges for data usage whilst using the orange side of things?......
Hope not........ Lol
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I've been having this problem probably once a day since I've gotten the phone where my phone will lose data signal while switching between 3G and LTE and the only way to get data back is to restart the phone. Turning airplane mode on and off won't work either.
Ive had that issue too..but most of the time it switches back n forth no problem
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I've been having this problem probably once a day since I've gotten the phone where my phone will lose data signal while switching between 3G and LTE and the only way to get data back is to restart the phone. Turning airplane mode on and off won't work either.
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I haven't noticed any data problems until today. I am unable to connect to 3G. We do not have 4G in my area.
These problems are probably bugs in the LTE System.
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These problems are probably bugs in the LTE System.
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why should bugs in the LTE system affect 3G?
the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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oh that's really interesting. thanks for that little bit of info. had no idea.
Same problem with it dropping data signal and never coming back without restart. At least now i know its not a hardware issue
I've had the same problem lately
~John
damn.. i was actually hoping this was a small problem with a simple solution... everything else about the phone is perfect except for this one problem.
Having the same issue here....when switching to cdma I get no 3G just 1X.....hope they find a fix soon
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same here guys. call Verizon and let them know. I think it helps if a bunch of us make them aware.
I've had a ton of weird data issues with the Rezound. I get 1x where i should get 3g, i get 3g where i should get 4g and i get nothing way too often.
I've only had this happen once with the rezound. Shows nothing but bars, no data can be used. Sometimes switching to 3g or 4g in lte on/off helps.
Had this problem intermittently on both my wife's and my bolts, completely agree its just a lte being a new tech issue.
I've listened to a podcast on how the handoff works and its definitely not fool proof.
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the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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Im in Lawton Oklahoma and I'm not gonna c 4G till 2013 and I'll be pcs before that.
Now I access the ##778 menu in edit mode and what do I do to force EVDO 3G?
Rocking and Loving My Unbelievable Crazy ReZound
Dial ##778#, call
edit mode
password is 000000
modem settings
Rev. A
select "enable"
menu > commit
phone will reboot and you should get 3G back
This changes your network from eHRPD back to EVDO Rev.A. For LTE phone owners, eHRPD causes 3G to die (most of the time anyway) when the LTE network has problems. Get back on normal EVDO and you're good to go.
^ from Jntdroid on another forum (not sure if we're allowed to post to other forums here) I'm not positive on where he got it from, but this is a capability of all HTC 4G phones
I've had occasional issues with being down to 1X, but even that was only during nationwide 4G network issues, definitely get in touch with VZW about that... not that they have enough sense to fix anything *sigh*
Data Connection slow to Acquire (3G/LTE)
If I'm on the subway, or somewhere with no service, then come above ground, I get voice (full bars) but no data -- it could take upwards of 3 minutes+ for data to come back up. Any thoughts?
I've been losing my 3G service throughout my city, being restricted to 1x so many times lately where I SHOULD be getting 3G!(4G isnt available in my area yet). It's really annoying...perhaps nexus isnt theeee only one...
^should I try calling and programing what the user implied? Again, I am not in a 4G area...
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I've been losing my 3G service throughout my city, being restricted to 1x so many times lately where I SHOULD be getting 3G!(4G isnt available in my area yet). It's really annoying...perhaps nexus isnt theeee only one...
^should I try calling and programing what the user implied? Again, I am not in a 4G area...
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Same issue as you. I live in a 3G area only and my 3G drops out a lot. Even a reboot doesn't get it back. Not sure what to do :/
Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
EDIT: So I really need help troubleshooting the issue. I'll logcat, dump, or whatever necessary. I've been in many cities/areas and this problem persists: if I haven't used data or the phone hasn't been backgrounding traffic, it'll take anywhere from 5 to 30 seconds before a connection is made when I try to access an internet-related function on my phone (even though 3G/H is displayed in the status bar). Out of shear frustration (this has been happening since I got the phone, under stock ROMs and now under AOKP), I tried messing with *#*#info#*#*. I changed WCDMA-preferred to WCDMA-only -- no improvement. Oddly, I also tried GSM-only. Well, great improvement! Even though I only have E, there is absolutely no latency in waiting for a connection -- so pages and other data end up loading faster on Edge than 3G !
I have absolutely no idea why my phone takes forever to make a connection. Under 3G, I see only but a few upstream network activity blips (even under full bars) for as much as 30 seconds, before there is any downstream activity (and when it comes, it comes). Can anyone help???
P.S.: I'm going to try using a friend's SIM later for comparison.
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Ever since I've transferred to AT&T I've had laggy data issues. I finally rooted/flashed to AOKP, and while trying to address the issues of no APNs appearing or saving and no signal status in the status bar, I've come to find both AT&T and T-Mobile as Available Networks under some network setting. Am I chasing ghosts here, or is there something actually up?
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Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
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Because they both share the 1900MHz band I believe.
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I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
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I'd like to know if it shows up for anyone else?
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On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
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On AOKP it does for me too. Just ignore it.
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An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
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An aside: does your phone stay on 3G and switch to H only under moderate network traffic?
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The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
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The phone displays 3G because thats what it is... then when data is being processed, it shows H because its using the "what AT&T calls 4G but its really HSPA" side of the network. For just standby time with no data, its going to show 3G because HSDPA is traffic, not standby.
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Well that's strange. I'm used to phones displaying what network-level they are capable of. So why would it not just display H for HSPA+ when HSPA+ service is available, instead of only displaying under traffic.
I'm going to go ahead an edit this thread to help troubleshoot what I think to be the main issue.
After some trials I see that the network indicator switches back and forth between 3G and H a few tines before making the connection and transmitting data. Hmmm...
Basically, "4G" will eat your battery alive so the phone idles at 3G and jumps to H+ only when you use data. If you were on a "stock" ATT rom it would always read H+, but this is technically false since when its idle the phone sits in 3G. CM9 and AOKP accurately display it which is why you see the switch.
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I have a HTC Amaze for a phone and the Galaxy S2 is my media player. Sometimes, when I don't feel like carrying around two devices, I put my T-Mobile SIM in the galaxy and use it as my phone. I must say, Edge is not as slow as I remember it being. Maybe speed is contingent on network traffic. If thats the case, instead of using crowded "faux G" networks, I may defer to Edge to save battery life and get good dl/ul rates.
My phone does the same thing. I noticed it sometime ago. When idle 3g. Internet I get H+. This is with both Shostock2 and Phone Bricker. I was curious to know too but just blew it off because it really doesnt make any difference to me as long as Im getting decent speeds. Im not even with ATT anymore. Went with Straight Talk. Which uses ATT towers. Cant beat the price!!
They don't have the correct apns, but that symbol problem is because the phone doesn't use hspa+ passively, only actively. It causes some lag when downloading, but it is faster fit large data. But your problem is due to a supposed imei range with bad modems. Rehash stick, fix the triangle, and return it.
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been looking at these lately to boost my signal at home. I'm aware these incorporate data usage on top of mobile data plan such as downloading a 200mb file through 3g or 4g will also add same usage to your monthly with the ISP. luckily I'm just looking for better signal since I'm on wifi at home anyways while 3g or 4g is only on for mms which isn't often.
Do you get a decent signal outside your house? You can go with a booster if you do.
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Do you get a decent signal outside your house? You can go with a booster if you do.
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kind of depending which room I'm in. if I'm upstairs and on side towards a tower I get 4-5 bars vs 2-3 everywhere else...sometimes one depending on Verizon's end
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kind of depending which room I'm in. if I'm upstairs and on side towards a tower I get 4-5 bars vs 2-3 everywhere else...sometimes one depending on Verizon's end
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I meant completely outside, they sell cell phone boosters where you mount an antenna outside of your house and feed it down to a booster in the house that repeats the signal inside. That method lets you help kill dead spots in the house and it still uses the towers vs your broadband connection.
As for the Verizon device, can't comment on it personally, I'm sure there are some reviews elsewhere in the forum. I don't think any data pulled over one of these would count against your Verizon data plan since it's coming over your broadband connection though, would be the equivalent of being on wifi.
Are you wanting to improve your voice connection or data connection? At a school I work at the Principal had a AT&T extender installed and it helps a lot with voice, but overall it was better to stay on wifi for the data connection.
Personally if it was me if your voice connection was good, I would just stick on Wifi for data if its not that great for 3G or 4G.
Lots of questions answered in this FAQ:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/faqs/Equipment/network_extender.html
I have one for voice and it works pretty well.
I keep it in my closet and it does the job, however there are some downsides.
It does not "extend" data, so I generally need to use WiFi in my house. I've heard the newer models will handle data as well; not sure if they handle 4G.
It does not hand-off to towers. This means you cannot initiate a call in your house then walk outside of the house; you'll drop the call. This applies for coming into your house as well.
This might be obvious, but it's reliant on how good your internet is. For example, while I was uploading my Google Music collection, I could not make calls using the extender because my connection was essentially tapped. I tried to set up QoS, but setting to low was the only thing that sort of worked.
I have one and Etherboo is correct. I'll add that they do not handle 4g. Doesn't matter because I use wifi at home.
That said, it works very well for voice. For some reason they need a GPS fix. Mine's in my basement office and I have to use the external GPS antenna that's provided.
Anyone having issues with 3g data dropping or network always disconnecting, takes a while to connect
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I had that problem with my sprint m9. Had it for a week with no problem then suddenly no data connect. No 3g or LTE for a couple days. Just Wi-Fi. I took it to a local corporate store and the best tech there eventually swapped out the sim and it's been connecting since. She told me sometimes the cards are bad from the start. Of all the phone's I've had that was a first for me.
Hmmm, mine seemed spotty today. A couple times I showed good 3G or LTE signal, but couldn't get data through.
Toggling airplane mode seemed to help.
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so i had the same issue and when i got the new OTA the other day which has a new radio I think the data issues are even worse..
Try a profile update. I activated my phone in a non-sprint area and got really terrible 3g and NO 4g in known LTE saturated areas. Once I returned to my hometown I updated the profile and PRL and I instantly got LTE and the spark logo.
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Hmmm, mine seemed spotty today. A couple times I showed good 3G or LTE signal, but couldn't get data through.
Toggling airplane mode seemed to help.
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Yep I've had those issues since day 1. Occasionally the mobile data will disconnect, yet is switched on. Only toggling airplane will fix it.
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Yep I've had those issues since day 1. Occasionally the mobile data will disconnect, yet is switched on. Only toggling airplane will fix it.
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I'm having similar issues.
So far, I tracked it down to this...
If I am on WiFi and then switch off, it will connect to LTE. At that time, some items such as Mail, Facebook, talking to Google, etc. quit working. It just times out. However, I can still browse the web and perform other functions. It will work if I switch back to WiFi or 3G, but so far it appears that I have to restart the phone to get everything working under LTE at that point.
Can others confirm this?
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I'm having similar issues.
So far, I tracked it down to this...
If I am on WiFi and then switch off, it will connect to LTE. At that time, some items such as Mail, Facebook, talking to Google, etc. quit working. It just times out. However, I can still browse the web and perform other functions. It will work if I switch back to WiFi or 3G, but so far it appears that I have to restart the phone to get everything working under LTE at that point.
Can others confirm this?
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im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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There is also a discussion about the same issue over on the Sprint Community forum: https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/204027
I have come across this as well, it's usually when I use more than 4 GB of data over sprints network. I sent a message to sprint telling them their service is shotty at times, never heard anything back yet but haven't run into data connect issues (since then). Also I've heard you can complain about signal strength and if you put in the time (going to supervisor to supervisor) they will send you a device to boost your signal. Or you can just pay for the signal booster device. This is just my opinion and what I have heard, don't quote Bubba
2k4mach said:
im having some similar issues. ill lose connectivity on LTE but it wont be disconnected from the LTE network, but switching to 3g or wifi works...ive narrowed it down to when I have a weak LTE signal. My house has always had a weak signal and thats where i notice it the most, I compared with my m8 and the signal levels are the same and connected to the same tower yet the m8 will work while the m9 acts like theres no connection at all, If i go outside and get a slightly better signal the m9 will work great.
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my data drops numours times a day and its getting pretty annoying, the phone constantly tells me i have lte but nothing works, browser, facebook, pandora, snapchat. Toggling airplane mode does nothing same with turning mobile data off and back on, sometimes updating the profile will work but man its driving me crazy!
Definitely a radio issue. We need a radio update bc this is killing the battery as well.
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I have come across this as well, it's usually when I use more than 4 GB of data over sprints network. I sent a message to sprint telling them their service is shotty at times, never heard anything back yet but haven't run into data connect issues (since then). Also I've heard you can complain about signal strength and if you put in the time (going to supervisor to supervisor) they will send you a device to boost your signal. Or you can just pay for the signal booster device. This is just my opinion and what I have heard, don't quote Bubba
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The airave signal booster is 3G and voice, had 1 for 4 years, hasn't worked reliably for the past 2 years and with these issues its not gonna help when the phone is able to get and hold the lte signal.
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The airave signal booster is 3G and voice, had 1 for 4 years, hasn't worked reliably for the past 2 years and with these issues its not gonna help when the phone is able to get and hold the lte signal.
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The issue is either hardware related, or possibly a radio handoff issue.
Has anyone swapped phones yet with a newer batch to see if it still occurs?
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The issue is either hardware related, or possibly a radio handoff issue.
Has anyone swapped phones yet with a newer batch to see if it still occurs?
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Yup doesn't matter, had a 1st day release and also a 1st day store release. Both have the issue for me.
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Yup doesn't matter, had a 1st day release and also a 1st day store release. Both have the issue for me.
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I'm constantly having the issue, and I've been advised to swap for a later release. My local stores are sold out, so I will advise once I have it swapped.
Any other possible solutions?
I did a swap myself and is not a hardware issues, I believe is the radio. I downloaded this signal check app to see what type of network connection is always on. I notice when connected on LTE, I have no problem. When it connects to 3g is where I have the issues especially indoors. It kinda tells me is connected in notification bar, but the network connection is stuck on 1xrtt.
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I did a swap myself and is not a hardware issues, I believe is the radio. I downloaded this signal check app to see what type of network connection is always on. I notice when connected on LTE, I have no problem. When it connects to 3g is where I have the issues especially indoors. It kinda tells me is connected in notification bar, but the network connection is stuck on 1xrtt.
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My problem, and what I have read from most others is on LTE. It works on 3G and WiFi.
Would this affect Hangouts messages from not coming through? If I'm not on WiFi, I'm on LTE, and message notifications won't come through when off of WiFi. They of course come in fine on WiFi....
It's weird...I was sitting at my desk and my phone was jumping back and forth between Sprint 25 and 41 every few seconds...I did the profile update and now I'm solidly on 25 steady.
I've also seen jumps to Verizon LTE which is sort of my blowing.
Hoping this also solves the issue in a spot near my house that I was dropping data completely where before I at least had a useable 3G signal.