I have the webtop hack on mine so I don't have the update yet, and with no root ability yet I'm not having it. So I'm asking is there a considerable plus to having the update done? I don't have a car dock so don't care about that, battery life will never be improved, I can push the power button myself when charging, and the finger print thing....well that does drive me a little crazy. So should I take off the hack for the update and wait for root.... or just wait, because its not that great?
yep, first thing is battery is lasting long..28 hours moderate use, still 30%
fingerprint scanner works great..
free memory increased by 200 megs..
but you will lose root...
I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
Yesterday I used mine off charger for about 12 hours and was still at 60% battery. I was shocked, but not worth the trade off for root. I'm waiting for Motorola to send me a survey on it so I can give them a piece of my mind about locking the phone down even more. I sell these things, and customers that are interested in the Atrix are only interested in it's specs for mostly a hacking standpoint. People who want simplicity get the iPhone, that's all there is to it. Blocking Psnuter is rather lame in my book. I'll be flashing back to stock then back to gingerblur tonight. The update also killed my lock screen, but I think that's because I used Titanium Backup to restore my data. Now I only have pattern unlock, and I can use any pattern to unlock. I can also just press any of the circles and it unlocks. Kindof a neat trick, but not worth root loss.
roscoejackson said:
I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
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I meant RAM, i see now 200megs free..before it used to be 250 meg free, now its 450 free
Well, I guess I'm sitting tight and not restoring for the update then.
the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
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the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
I am not sold on the update
I updated and lost root and the webtop mod. (I knew this going in)
Battery is about the same.
Fingerprint sensor is maybe a little bit better.
Touch screens and input seems quicker.
But I have had some issues:
-Wifi takes longer to lock
-On Pandora sometimes I want the screen on when I am in the car and the screen shuts down anyway.
-For the first time Endomondo had problems getting a satellite lock after the update
And the nag screen about the update bugged me as did the Motorola questionaire about rooting and mods..
I am going to wait and see if the gurus get root. If not it is back to retail sbf and restore apps and data from Titanium...
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
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dude, just read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980047
I also received the update. To me it seems the fingerprint swipe is more reliable. The battery life is greatly improved.
I do have some issues with wifi disconnecting and reconnecting - but I think that is my router that is recycling, because my wife's iphone has the same issues, and at the same time.
welk I am happy the touchscreen works great now. Battery life I don't know I game while streaming radio. But touch screen is only thing I really cared about. More than root. Untill we can get Overclock I don't need root that badly. Cache mate, setcpu, TiBu, root explorer, and a couple more. All those for a working touch screen and a little faster unlock (slide)... don't use the finger scanner, but when I did factory out of the box it worked everytime the first time. Maybe.... "your not holding it the right way" Lolololol.
Geez, I might as well have just put a poll, because it sounds like its hit or miss down the line. I'm still staying rooted though. At least until the hsupa update comes.
updated yday and flashed back few min ago, for me there was no change at all. love webtop hack to much
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So my friend has a Thunderbolt and she complains about it freezing up when doing text messaging. She has to hit the power button and then it will come back to life. Sometimes she even has to wait a few minutes for it to come back. She has tried to restart it and even takes the battery out. She has also even having troubles with the GPS not working or taking forever to lock. Everytrail will mess up and not get her entire run, etc. I even noticed that my TouchPro2 running android will go from google maps to google navigation faster than her Tbolt. Is this poor performance common for users with the stock rom and the update?
I have no problem messing around with phones and putting custom roms, etc, etc on my phone. I would help her root her phone if its worth rooting. She was concerned it would void warranty, but I saw the thread to restore to stock. Is there anyway for them to tell you were rooted if she has a warranty issue and I return it to stock? She is obviously wanting something that will work better and faster than stock. What would be the best setup for a close to stock look and feel, but more stable and easy to use? Does a rom like that even exist? Help me out here fella's as I told her to get the Tbolt instead of another crackberry and now she is less than happy because her Tbolt sucks stock. Thanks
If i was her i would call and get a replacement and see if that helps b4 messing with the phone. A phone should work properly out of the box.
Wont they just send her a replacement that is a refurb?
They will definitely give her a refurbished no matter how much you complain.
For the gps, try download an app called GPS Status and Toolbox. It's free from the market. Turn GPS on, open up the app, and hit the menu button. Then choose Tools, and choose Manage A-GPS State. Choose reset and see if that helps the GPS lock on faster.
As for the freezing, I'm not sure why its doing that. It could be a rouge app that's hogging the CPU. Tell her to go through and uninstall any apps she doesn't use. Worst case scenario, back up everything she needs, and factory reset the phone. Is a pain, by it might be worth a try.
Rooting does void the warranty. You can return back to stock and they would never know. However, because of this, many people are bricking their phones because they don't know what they are doing and then claim warranty on them. Because of this, the OEMs are starting to lock down the bootloaders to prevent this, and carriers and pressuring them to do so as well.
I, personally, think the tbolt runs faster and has the best battery life stock than with any Rom kernel combo I have tried.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
I'd rather have a functional refurb than a broken new phone. That's just me.
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
ercDROID said:
I had never done anything close to rooting a phone before. I spent 2 days reading about it. I downloaded all the programs and files that are needed to root the phone. Finally decided to do it....knowing full well that I could brick the phone and have to pay retail for a new one. It did take me a long time just cause I wanted to be very thorough with the process and make sure I did everything right. If I had to do it again it would probably take a half hour. It was easier than I thought it would be. The combo I'm using now is Bamf 1.6.3 remix and Imoseyons lean kernel on normal mode. The battery life is amazing. I do have a slight problem that will hopefully get fixed soon but after unplugging my phone at 730 am and having moderate usage at work my battery is at 82% at 5 pm.
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The battery percentage isn't always accurate. Try using green power. It's a free app in the market. It an shut your data off when you shut the screen of, and turn it on when you turn the screen back on. You can also set it to turn the data on and let the phone sync. I have none set to turn the data on for 1 minute every two hours to let it sync.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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Plain Jane is a great ROM. its pretty much stock only deodexed and rooted.
I'm currently running das BAMF 2.0 and its very stable and runs great.
As far as sms backup, I never back up any of my text when I flash new ROMs so I couldn't help you there.
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I am not worried about successfully rooting the phone. I am sure I can handle that. I am more worried about the phone working worse than it is now. That is why I was asking about which roms are nice and stable.
She is running SMS backup? Is there a better program that archives texts to gmail easily that she could try?
Could there really be a hardware issue? Seems odd.
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SMS backup works fine. I don't like the HTC messaging app, mine freezes up too. Mostly when you have a ton of messages in a particular thread. Tell her to try handcent. That cleared up my messaging woes. If that doesn't do it I would tell her to go back to the store and have them replace the phone. Refurb or not it's better to have a phone that works. As far as gps that's a well known problem with this phone. I've resigned myself to waiting 90 seconds to get a fix which in reality isn't that bad. The garmin in my car takes at least that long.
Didnt realize there was a rom called plain jane. Sorry but what is deodexed?
I know she doesnt delete her texts so long threads may be an issue. I will have her look at handcent.
The length to lock isnt the biggest issue its the freezing and her missing stuff on everytrail.
pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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There are some roms, who improve battery life, don't know about gps. But if you install another rom, you will void your warranty and you won't be able to flash the specific original rom for your region, cause for most devices there's only the generic rom to flash (shouldn't be a problem if you have to take it to service, just that you know)...
If you want to use the active instead of your garmin, you will have to find a very good navigation app, because as I think, you need something for area where are no streets, too. And most navigation apps haven't got this feature...
I have an active myself. If you want to keep it down to it's basic functions (which is basically already set as an outdoors device) i would suggest that you don't upgrade to ics and keep the original gingerbread software which has far less battery draining than any ics based rom. About the GPS, i used it severalk times for travbelling and never for tracking so don't know how it works in deep thick woods, but always had speedy lock on and precise navigation. Unlike above user stated most navigation (one with offline maps would probably be best) apps are for trekking and offraod activities, what you can do is modify your gps.conf file to make it specific to your region or area so satellite lock time will be much improved. Just search the forum for gps speed fixes, there's also a patch for agps to help increase satellite locking time.
I own this phone and wanted to do the same as you.
All setups i tried were not stable. sometimes the external power cable got disconnected, sometimes just the app closed.
after months of testing, i reverted to gamin products as they offer a much more rugged and robust hardware. I never managed to track > 20 hours on my active-phone.
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Thanks for all of your input folks.
I did receive the phone on Friday and had a chance to check it out over the weekend. My first impression is that it has a comfortable size and mass to it and I do not mind the screen size at all. It seems quite speedy and the (Gingerbread) OS operates like butter. I did have difficulty getting the GPS function to lock at first. After prolonged attempts, it wasn't until I installed an app called GPS Test did it finally lock - not quite sure what the difference was, perhaps AGPS may have been responsible. Since then however, I have been attempting to maintain GPS-only locating as I am certain that data would not be available in the majority of my usage areas. I looked at most of the GPS Mapping/Tracking apps and settled on the paid version of AlpineQuest - excellent app. I got my waypoints from my Garmin loaded onto my SD card and was quickly navigating the trails in the woods behind my house. Great stuff!
I got just over 8hrs of solid use out of the first charge on the stock battery, so the phone should keep up with a full day on the trails. I have also ordered a couple of spare batteries and standalone charger for backup. Since this first day of use, I have been using the GPS Test app exclusively to verify my satellite lock prior to using AlpineQuest. I did notice that after prolonged non-usage or following a charge cycle I did have some difficulty locking on to the satellites, however each time it was solved with a phone reboot - after which the GPS Test app would lock on within seconds (even inside the house). Each time I was in airplane mode with WiFi off. I will have to monitor the satellite locking for consistency before I am all in with this device but so far I am quite please with its (stock) performance.
the phone & the user may be active, but the battery is certainly not. the display is not that bright under bright sunlight situations :X
hi, i have the active as well and so far i am pretty satisfied.. not VERY satisfied due to Battery life.. but without that issue, I am satisfied...
I have dropped this baby 4 times already on concrete (2 waist level 2 chest level) and the phone just bounced without any cracked screen (it does have some dents on the silver lining around the screen though), but i can guarantee that this phone is shock proof because on those 4 times, the phone did not even turn-off or restart or even battery breaking out from its case...
I do not do trails but so far, the NavFree app has been very good to me with my driving direction needs... easy locking with GPS and pretty good directions...
Try also searching for build.prop tweaks in the development area of this forum because i think it can help in the phone's performance and a little bit of battery life.. i can do intermittent non-heavy image/flash website surfing and the battery could last more than 8 hours and if I just have my phone on stand by (just waiting for messages and calls and reply to them) battery could last more than 24 hours...
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
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I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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you have to tell me if you notice some increase in battery life with those 1800's...
regarding rooting, i followed this procedure with no problem: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/241059
just follow it step by step.. also, if you are not aware, you have to flash the kernel using the flashtool before you can flash the rom through CWM.... in anyway, you should not be afraid of bricking your phone because I was able to always restore my phone through that link's procedure.. however, pls do not take my word on it because what works for me might not work for you even if we have the same phone... we still might have a different stock.. so rooting your phone is always at your own risk (my disclaimer, hehehe)...
regarding rom, i find the free experia rom's quite good... after initial loading of the rom, i got more than 400mb free internal space.. so they did remove a lot of bloated apps that you dont really use...
just as side note: i installed cm10 fxp138 on my active and the battery lasts for 36hours and more. i really like 4.1 jb.
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OK, so I am rooted and remain locked. I ended up flashing stock 4.0.2.A.0.42 and then this ROM:
ROM][GB][ALL MDPI] HASA v5 [2.3.7][27/9/12]
My prayers have been answered! This ROM is fast and lean! Thanks very much to sandy7 for his work on this! I followed his instructions exactly as in his first post, however did not need to install the revised camera lib as I had no issues with the camera. I've had absolutely zero issues and love the speed.
Now for the battery life. I finally got the spare batteries I mentioned in the previous post (shipped from China). My initial observation is that these batteries smoke the stock one by a large margin. I still need to spend a little more time on this ROM to be certain. As mentioned before, my goal is to replace my standalone GPS unit with this phone. I am not using phone or data, so I am in airplane mode all the time. I am using wifi a bit. With the stock battery I got about 1 day and 12 hours of standby and light use on wifi and gps with 10% remaining. On the replacement battery I got 3 days and 16 hours with 35% remaining before I decided to try the stock battery again. The stock battery began to drain as soon as I put it in and was down to 85% within the first hour. I don't know, perhaps these stock batteries are junk? I am open to suggestions on how to properly do a test and comparison.
omg.. really? so those china batteries work for you? damn.. I want those.. i will buy those..
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrapped & Hyperdrived
Mistertac said:
I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrapped & Hyperdrived
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I have not, but I'm downloading it now. We'll see how it works!
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I get awesome battery life with Hyperdrive have you tried that at all?
Verizon Galaxy S4
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+1 Hyperdrive. 9.1 rocks my battery.
kyls2010 said:
So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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The first time I read that I laughed out loud. The second time I read it - I thought yeah he would actually..or he'd write his own from scratch!
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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It's obvious that some apps you have installed are causing this, I can get 14+ easy on mine. I highly suggest using Greenify to hibernate misbehaving apps and try to use auto-brightness if you can stand it.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps installed, so it really can't/shouldn't be a case of misbehaving apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference."
I will definitely take a look at Greenify, and see if it helps me. Thank you for that suggestion.
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A different rom wont make much difference if its something with the settings or a specific app you have running constantly. Do you have location services enabled. Thats a big one that causes alot of drain.
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I had put in a side note above stating that I have been running without my apps. "Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference. " I did a ton of reading on this prior to flashing, but from what I see people are only reading my first sentence and trying to answer (which is why the, "Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way," comment irked me.) I have been a rooted android user since Droid X, so I know how to read/research/troubleshoot phone issues. Believe me, I've had to SBF that phone a million times because each flash was like a crapp shoot. This issue however is a commonality between multiple SGS4 roms (Stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide).
I always shut my location services off the second I flash a rom (unless I need to use my navigator, which as mentioned, I don't have installed at the moment.) But this is definitely a valid troubleshooting question to ask.
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So here I am, upgraded from the GS3. I understand that the ME7 radio is locked and that safestrap is the only option. But here's my dilemma. I used to get 14+ hours of battery life on my GS3. Now I'm lucky to get 8 hours, if I'm not touching the phone whatsoever. I've tried stock, Jellybeans, and Darkslide (seems to be my only options but feel free to prove me wrong.) Is this normal? Do I have a defunct device? This just seems extremely poor to me... They can't advertise that this phone is so much better if it's getting less battery life than the fricken S3...
Side note: I've tried running w/o my apps, and by turning all of the motion sensor stuff off, but I do not see a difference.
I also am pasting a picture of my battery in stock. You can see that in one day, I have to put it on the charger. Yes, I use wifi, but I honestly wasn't using the phone (and I do not have my apps installed.) The first fall on the graph is me using netflix for an hour (battery decline here is understandable). The second fall is my phone sitting on my desk while I'm at work. I'm on my computer, not my phone... and it's almost declining as much as if I was watching netflix. I've restarted it.... used the android task manager to kill the ram... you name it... Every rom I flash I've flashed is like this. It's astronomically frustrating...
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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Ya, I saw, but not having root is kind of a penance, makes me appreciate having it more when I do get it. I've also decided flashing roms gets old, but for sure I'm missing Xposed framework.
metalunna said:
Here is a post I made a few months back..I was battling Horrible Battery life (approx 5-10% per hour). Since i caught the culprit in my home netork I get less than 1% drain idle per hour:
"I had bad battery life on my S4 right after release. I tracked it down to Multicast being ENABLED on one of my Access Points. I would recommend logging into your routers and/or) access points and look for anything related to Multicast and Disable it (or uncheck it).
Granted this was for a totally different device (note that my Nexus 7 was NOT affected by multicast) but it certainly cant hurt anything by disabling multicast..If it does, just enable it again.
My S4 was using approx 5%-8% of battery per hour with multicast enabled...once I disabled it, I now drain about 1% per hour.
This took me almost 2 weeks to discover...keeping in mind that my S4 never connected to the affected AP. I use that AP for older legacy devices.....just having it on the network affected my S4.
Give it a try..if it does not work..enable it again."
PS..disabling Google location services also helped me slightly with a runaway battery drain.
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Amazing suggestion! I will definitely check that!
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FYI it is possible to retain root and take the update as explained here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2504408 If you've already updated though you'll just have to wait for an exploit.
I have been hawkeyeing that thread all day lol...
To the OP: It's also possible you just have a bad battery... there have been cases of faulty batteries and some were even swelling up so perhaps you could try to get a replacement to see if it fixes it.
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I'm seriously starting to consider that as well... I'm on hyperdrive now but it really hasn't improved that much. I'm currently sitting at 19% since 8:45 am this morning (currently 4:01 PM here). So I'm going to just dip over 8 hours today, sitting at work while on my computer mind you, which is still sad in my eyes...
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Turn off Google location services, see if that helps. That was killing my battery on ME7, same as yours. If your not into rooting, the 4.3 update has fixed that bug, I'm back to 3.5ish hours of screen on time. I did give up root though, so pick your battle i guess.
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I'm definitely considering that OTA w/survival mode... no doubt about it.
Today I was using Navigation for about 4 hours straight, GPS and location services on, with LTE, also using Bluetooth the whole time for music and Poweramp with some texting in between. I only dropped 35%. It definitely sounds like you got a lemon (either the battery or phone).
Wow, I am jealous... Yeah, I think you're right.
Now that there are a couple of versions of the 'official' Lollipop update floating around for the Z3v and people are using it, what's the verdict? What are your thoughts? Was it worth the wait? Is it running alright, better, or worse, than KK? Any problems or concerns?
It might help if you let us know which version you installed (.485 or .509), if you're rooted, and if you did a clean wipe and install or flashed over your previous version.
Also...is simultaneous voice and data working??.....
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Also...is simultaneous voice and data working??.....
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It does not. I don't think it works on either build, but I'm running version .485, FYI.
Multi-user / guest mode also has been deactivated and is missing.
Im actually enjoying the update, fun little things here and there. Im greatful to have the update everything works well.
I have the unrooted .485 build. To my knowledge almost everything is working perfectly. Battery life is the same if not better. I love Sony's take on material design. The only two things missing are multiple user accounts and the ability to do voice over data, but I do not think that will be turned on until Verizon officially releases the update. Since verizon hasn't released it yet, I'm positive they haven't "hit the switch" to turn it on for our devices.
I'm waiting for Verizon to push this to my phone but am a little concerned that pdanet/foxfi will stop working for me when it comes. Any thoughts on this? What are my risks of waiting on not rooting? Wi-Fi hotspots is critical for me.
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I'm actually experiencing a dramatic DROP in battery charge longevity and haven't been able to find out what's doing it.
Other than that, the upgrade is "OK", but without the missing features that we're waiting on Verizon for, I'm not sure it was worth all the hassle.
I just look at it as good practice for when 2 have to go through all this crap again when they finally do release the good stuff.
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After having whittled down some of the background apps that I had done in K.K. (per Gigaspx's list), I am now experiencing much better battery life. Also, now that I have Xposed-lollipop-z3v working to tweak the interface, it's looking less foreign to me and more intuitive.
I had both versions installed and clearly prefer 509. I had WiFi issues with 485 and my phones was overheating while wireless charging. 509 fixed those issues and everything is working fine. Compared to 4.4.4 everything is faster and I rely like the new lollipop interface. I haven't done any testing but I think that the battery life also improved.
I'm on 509 and have seen a few odd things.
My GPS locked up the other day and would not update my location. I had to reboot to fix it. This has never happened to me on this phone before.
Hitting recent apps lags. It takes long enough to come up with the list of recent apps that I start to question whether or not I hit the button every single time.
Settings from Tasker profiles that have always worked without a hitch are not being respected. For example, the screen will continuously turn off after 5 or 10 seconds but when I check the settings for screen timeout it says 2 minutes. Re-applying the profile works as expected after.
Other than that I'm enjoying LP. I'll have to do some testing to see what I can fix.
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I'm actually experiencing a dramatic DROP in battery charge longevity and haven't been able to find out what's doing it.
Other than that, the upgrade is "OK", but without the missing features that we're waiting on Verizon for, I'm not sure it was worth all the hassle.
I just look at it as good practice for when 2 have to go through all this crap again when they finally do release the good stuff.
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After having whittled down some of the background apps that I had done in K.K. (per Gigaspx's list), I am now experiencing much better battery life. Also, now that I have Xposed-lollipop-z3v working to tweak the interface, it's looking less foreign to me and more intuitive.
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so can we downgrade from lolipop to kitkat?
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I'm starting to have a constant wakelock. No idea why and I cant fully charge with a wireless charger.
I have only had lollipop a couple of days now (flashed 509). So far I like it. Battery is about the same, never have had any lag, maybe lollipop is a little faster? Several things I like - BT seems more stable, lock screen controls are now more consistent, and the security features are better (I use a pin to lock my phone). I generally like the small changes to the interface.
Things I don't like. The volume controls is not intuitive (muting etc). Themes don't work as well either. Can't seem to get navigation buttons to change.
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You know what give a try it wont cost you a penny but you will gain skills
Since upgrading my bluetooth calls have been annoying and inconsistent. Some calls are fine and others cut in and out so much I have to disconnect from bluetooth to continue the call. Never had a single issue with 4.4
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Since upgrading my bluetooth calls have been annoying and inconsistent. Some calls are fine and others cut in and out so much I have to disconnect from bluetooth to continue the call. Never had a single issue with 4.4
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I had Bluetooth problems updating to non root 5.02 without doing a factory reset. I switched back to 4.4.4, rooted and then updated with dual recovery and have had no issues for the past two weeks. My sony smartband talk watch was having a lot of problems which prompted me to go back to a clean factory reset 4.4.4 and then root. I used kingroot and installed recovery before flashing the prerooted 5.02. I'm getting 5.5 hours sot and its very stable.
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I had Bluetooth problems updating to non root 5.02 without doing a factory reset. I switched back to 4.4.4, rooted and then updated with dual recovery and have had no issues for the past two weeks. My sony smartband talk watch was having a lot of problems which prompted me to go back to a clean factory reset 4.4.4 and then root. I used kingroot and installed recovery before flashing the prerooted 5.02. I'm getting 5.5 hours sot and its very stable.
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I'm having Bluetooth problems from a clean stock install... It won't connect to anything... You're saying that the rooted version runs better?
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Running .509 and am pleased with the results. I have Advanced Calling supposedly running but to be honest I haven't tested it yet. Phone is very stable and smooth. Battery life is excellent, getting 2+ days from a single charge with light to moderate use.
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Running .509 and am pleased with the results. I have Advanced Calling supposedly running but to be honest I haven't tested it yet. Phone is very stable and smooth. Battery life is excellent, getting 2+ days from a single charge with light to moderate use.
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I tested my Z3V on 5.02 with my son's Galaxy S5 and it does work including HD Video.
I was having the notification tray freeze up the whole phone from time to time. Had to force reboot.
Anyone else? It only happens sometimes when pulling it down.
So here is the XDA article about the feature drop
June Feature Drop for Google Pixels includes At a Glance improvements, Pocket Operator, and more
The June feature drop for Google Pixel devices is now available, and you can install it on your smartphone. It has a ton of new features.
www.xda-developers.com
And it really does look kind of..... underwhelming? like nothing there is very useful or important at large.
But the update actually brought nice stuff.
Check this article for the main take on the feature drop
June Feature Drop appears to cure most of what ailed Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro units
Most Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro users have seen a big improvement in their handsets' cellular connectivity after installing the June Feature Drop.
www.phonearena.com
I myself have noticed improvements in the time to fingerprint unlock, network seems to be faster and more stable in comparison to March, and my network battery usage went down from being around 30% to around 5%!
So all in all I'm happy with this update even though it didn't seem meaningful at the beginning. It makes this phone more fine tuned and worth.
Have you-all noticed any improvements?
Are you feeling it's better then before?
Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
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The OTA update isn't showing up yet for me.
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
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Yes much better. One day in only but noticeable for sure.
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I used the android flash tool it factory reset my phone but that's not big deal for me I restored my backup from Google one.
I have noticed the fingerprint sensor is working better my phone seems to not get as good reception but the network is also not using 30% anymore it more like 10 or 15 which is still high but where I'm at now doesn't really have great reception to begin with
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weird.. i suppose you also checked manually through the settings?
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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I usually wait for the update notification upon checking updates available. This time it didn't seem it was forthcoming anytime soon since my wife's P5 didn't get it either. So I sideloaded it yesterday. It took all of 7 - 10 min from recovery to reboot. Not sure what the delay is but I just didn't feel like waiting for them to do whatever the eff they need to do to release it.
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Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm manually checking for the update, and it's not showing up. I'll try restarting.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
i got my phone yesterday ....love it
I've definitely noticed an improvement in the fingerprint reader. I haven't noticed any different in network - but more so because I am usually on WiFi and generally don't have network issues when I am not.
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go to google ota images https://developers.google.com/android/ota
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Yeah, I ended up sideloading it. No issues, and everything feels a little snappier
I sideloaded it Monday afternoon. Wasn't having any issues before and am not having any issues after.
It's a little early to tell, but I think battery life has improved. I ended the day both Monday and Tuesday with a battery that was about 10%-15% higher than usual.
Being able to use music player like neutron working again is brilliant I had the update on Monday about 11pm I'm in uk
i installed June update 2 days ago. not sure if it is the update or battery guru which was installed at the same time, but now my phone ACTUALLY goes into deep sleep (as reported by battery guru)!!
Its always in deep sleep now for around 15/16hrs between charges and battery drain is down to as little as 1% per hr when screen off. Before I could lose around 20/30% from around 10pm (last phone use) until 6.30am when i pick my phone up the following morning.
One thing i am having issue with SINCE the June update is pixel launcher. Im getting errors saying it has stopped working. I Use Lawnchair anyway, but thats not the point. Just before I get the error about pixel launcher, the phone goes really slow.
A restart of the phone hasn't solved the issues and i have also cleared data/cache from the launcher to no avail.
I NEED TO CONNECT MULTIPLE BLUETOOTH DEVICES AT ONCE!
one weird error I have since updating. If I pull down the notification tab as soon as i click a notification, instead of opening it it will lock the screen
Noticed much improved battery life as well. A 2% drop in active usage and much better standby battery drain. Took my phone out of the charger at 1pm yesterday and I'm at 48% as of writing this message the net day at 6:35pm. Moderate active usage between then and now.
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Forgot to mention that my phone doesn't seem to randomly overheat anymore while casually browsing the web.
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Phone finally shut down today at 4pm, with around 50hours of total battery life and 6ish hours of screen time. This is probably the single biggest overall battery life improvement I've ever experienced just from installing an update alone on any phone I've owned.
NVM, I found the setting.
Definitely not better here battery or network wise after the June patch.