Now that there are a couple of versions of the 'official' Lollipop update floating around for the Z3v and people are using it, what's the verdict? What are your thoughts? Was it worth the wait? Is it running alright, better, or worse, than KK? Any problems or concerns?
It might help if you let us know which version you installed (.485 or .509), if you're rooted, and if you did a clean wipe and install or flashed over your previous version.
Also...is simultaneous voice and data working??.....
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Also...is simultaneous voice and data working??.....
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It does not. I don't think it works on either build, but I'm running version .485, FYI.
Multi-user / guest mode also has been deactivated and is missing.
Im actually enjoying the update, fun little things here and there. Im greatful to have the update everything works well.
I have the unrooted .485 build. To my knowledge almost everything is working perfectly. Battery life is the same if not better. I love Sony's take on material design. The only two things missing are multiple user accounts and the ability to do voice over data, but I do not think that will be turned on until Verizon officially releases the update. Since verizon hasn't released it yet, I'm positive they haven't "hit the switch" to turn it on for our devices.
I'm waiting for Verizon to push this to my phone but am a little concerned that pdanet/foxfi will stop working for me when it comes. Any thoughts on this? What are my risks of waiting on not rooting? Wi-Fi hotspots is critical for me.
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I'm actually experiencing a dramatic DROP in battery charge longevity and haven't been able to find out what's doing it.
Other than that, the upgrade is "OK", but without the missing features that we're waiting on Verizon for, I'm not sure it was worth all the hassle.
I just look at it as good practice for when 2 have to go through all this crap again when they finally do release the good stuff.
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After having whittled down some of the background apps that I had done in K.K. (per Gigaspx's list), I am now experiencing much better battery life. Also, now that I have Xposed-lollipop-z3v working to tweak the interface, it's looking less foreign to me and more intuitive.
I had both versions installed and clearly prefer 509. I had WiFi issues with 485 and my phones was overheating while wireless charging. 509 fixed those issues and everything is working fine. Compared to 4.4.4 everything is faster and I rely like the new lollipop interface. I haven't done any testing but I think that the battery life also improved.
I'm on 509 and have seen a few odd things.
My GPS locked up the other day and would not update my location. I had to reboot to fix it. This has never happened to me on this phone before.
Hitting recent apps lags. It takes long enough to come up with the list of recent apps that I start to question whether or not I hit the button every single time.
Settings from Tasker profiles that have always worked without a hitch are not being respected. For example, the screen will continuously turn off after 5 or 10 seconds but when I check the settings for screen timeout it says 2 minutes. Re-applying the profile works as expected after.
Other than that I'm enjoying LP. I'll have to do some testing to see what I can fix.
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I'm actually experiencing a dramatic DROP in battery charge longevity and haven't been able to find out what's doing it.
Other than that, the upgrade is "OK", but without the missing features that we're waiting on Verizon for, I'm not sure it was worth all the hassle.
I just look at it as good practice for when 2 have to go through all this crap again when they finally do release the good stuff.
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After having whittled down some of the background apps that I had done in K.K. (per Gigaspx's list), I am now experiencing much better battery life. Also, now that I have Xposed-lollipop-z3v working to tweak the interface, it's looking less foreign to me and more intuitive.
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so can we downgrade from lolipop to kitkat?
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I'm starting to have a constant wakelock. No idea why and I cant fully charge with a wireless charger.
I have only had lollipop a couple of days now (flashed 509). So far I like it. Battery is about the same, never have had any lag, maybe lollipop is a little faster? Several things I like - BT seems more stable, lock screen controls are now more consistent, and the security features are better (I use a pin to lock my phone). I generally like the small changes to the interface.
Things I don't like. The volume controls is not intuitive (muting etc). Themes don't work as well either. Can't seem to get navigation buttons to change.
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You know what give a try it wont cost you a penny but you will gain skills
Since upgrading my bluetooth calls have been annoying and inconsistent. Some calls are fine and others cut in and out so much I have to disconnect from bluetooth to continue the call. Never had a single issue with 4.4
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Since upgrading my bluetooth calls have been annoying and inconsistent. Some calls are fine and others cut in and out so much I have to disconnect from bluetooth to continue the call. Never had a single issue with 4.4
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I had Bluetooth problems updating to non root 5.02 without doing a factory reset. I switched back to 4.4.4, rooted and then updated with dual recovery and have had no issues for the past two weeks. My sony smartband talk watch was having a lot of problems which prompted me to go back to a clean factory reset 4.4.4 and then root. I used kingroot and installed recovery before flashing the prerooted 5.02. I'm getting 5.5 hours sot and its very stable.
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I had Bluetooth problems updating to non root 5.02 without doing a factory reset. I switched back to 4.4.4, rooted and then updated with dual recovery and have had no issues for the past two weeks. My sony smartband talk watch was having a lot of problems which prompted me to go back to a clean factory reset 4.4.4 and then root. I used kingroot and installed recovery before flashing the prerooted 5.02. I'm getting 5.5 hours sot and its very stable.
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I'm having Bluetooth problems from a clean stock install... It won't connect to anything... You're saying that the rooted version runs better?
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Running .509 and am pleased with the results. I have Advanced Calling supposedly running but to be honest I haven't tested it yet. Phone is very stable and smooth. Battery life is excellent, getting 2+ days from a single charge with light to moderate use.
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Running .509 and am pleased with the results. I have Advanced Calling supposedly running but to be honest I haven't tested it yet. Phone is very stable and smooth. Battery life is excellent, getting 2+ days from a single charge with light to moderate use.
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I tested my Z3V on 5.02 with my son's Galaxy S5 and it does work including HD Video.
I was having the notification tray freeze up the whole phone from time to time. Had to force reboot.
Anyone else? It only happens sometimes when pulling it down.
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I have the webtop hack on mine so I don't have the update yet, and with no root ability yet I'm not having it. So I'm asking is there a considerable plus to having the update done? I don't have a car dock so don't care about that, battery life will never be improved, I can push the power button myself when charging, and the finger print thing....well that does drive me a little crazy. So should I take off the hack for the update and wait for root.... or just wait, because its not that great?
yep, first thing is battery is lasting long..28 hours moderate use, still 30%
fingerprint scanner works great..
free memory increased by 200 megs..
but you will lose root...
I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
Yesterday I used mine off charger for about 12 hours and was still at 60% battery. I was shocked, but not worth the trade off for root. I'm waiting for Motorola to send me a survey on it so I can give them a piece of my mind about locking the phone down even more. I sell these things, and customers that are interested in the Atrix are only interested in it's specs for mostly a hacking standpoint. People who want simplicity get the iPhone, that's all there is to it. Blocking Psnuter is rather lame in my book. I'll be flashing back to stock then back to gingerblur tonight. The update also killed my lock screen, but I think that's because I used Titanium Backup to restore my data. Now I only have pattern unlock, and I can use any pattern to unlock. I can also just press any of the circles and it unlocks. Kindof a neat trick, but not worth root loss.
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I haven't noticed any difference whatsoever.
Battery life is the same for me and the fingerprint sensor is about the same.
Free memory? You mean storage space? Definitely not RAM.
I don't know if overall stability has really improved or not. 5 minutes ago my browser crashed for no apparent reason.
After 1 day it seems like this update is a letdown. Perhaps dock users are benefitting from it. The sooner they fully release this thing the sooner they get working on an update thats actually worth a damn.
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I meant RAM, i see now 200megs free..before it used to be 250 meg free, now its 450 free
Well, I guess I'm sitting tight and not restoring for the update then.
the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
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the update is good (fingerprint better, battery life better, wifi on simunlocked device still doesnt work tho), but loosing root isnt acceptable for me at all, so i restored back to the retail sbf.
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
I am not sold on the update
I updated and lost root and the webtop mod. (I knew this going in)
Battery is about the same.
Fingerprint sensor is maybe a little bit better.
Touch screens and input seems quicker.
But I have had some issues:
-Wifi takes longer to lock
-On Pandora sometimes I want the screen on when I am in the car and the screen shuts down anyway.
-For the first time Endomondo had problems getting a satellite lock after the update
And the nag screen about the update bugged me as did the Motorola questionaire about rooting and mods..
I am going to wait and see if the gurus get root. If not it is back to retail sbf and restore apps and data from Titanium...
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Hold up, you mean if the device is sim unlocked you can't use wifi ?
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dude, just read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980047
I also received the update. To me it seems the fingerprint swipe is more reliable. The battery life is greatly improved.
I do have some issues with wifi disconnecting and reconnecting - but I think that is my router that is recycling, because my wife's iphone has the same issues, and at the same time.
welk I am happy the touchscreen works great now. Battery life I don't know I game while streaming radio. But touch screen is only thing I really cared about. More than root. Untill we can get Overclock I don't need root that badly. Cache mate, setcpu, TiBu, root explorer, and a couple more. All those for a working touch screen and a little faster unlock (slide)... don't use the finger scanner, but when I did factory out of the box it worked everytime the first time. Maybe.... "your not holding it the right way" Lolololol.
Geez, I might as well have just put a poll, because it sounds like its hit or miss down the line. I'm still staying rooted though. At least until the hsupa update comes.
updated yday and flashed back few min ago, for me there was no change at all. love webtop hack to much
One minor and a couple of major issues...
- Notification drop-down stops accepting touch input but can still be slid up and down. Reboot fixed
- Battery life is horrible. It's better with wifi set to turn off when the screen turns off, but I'm still losing about 10% per hour. With the stock 2.3.4 ROM I was able to go 16 hours and only drop to 80%. I've read maybe I need to let the battery discharge completely so that it can calibrate? I'll try that today.
- Cell connectivity is sketchy now. I've had problems making calls. Full bars, then it tries to connect and the bars drop to 0 temporarily, then come back up and the call fails. My SMS send success rate is about 75%, sometimes down to 25%. I've had multiple text messages fail to send and some texts I end up receiving minutes and sometimes hours later. This is a huge problem.
Overall I think this is a great leap forward and the phone is very fast now, but with the battery life and sketchy cell problems I may have to go back to stock.
Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!
I wish I could get this to be stable, and I understand it's still beta, but I have to go back to stock. If I didn't need the phone and SMS functions to be reliable then I'd stick with it, but I need my phone for work.
I'll keep an eye on how things progress and maybe try again down the road, but chances are I'll be upgrading to a Galaxy Nexus in a couple of weeks anyway. At least then I can use my X2 as a toy and not care about carrier stability.
I think these problems are rare, sorry. I do share the "wifi not reconnecting" but wifi fixer is a work around. This is a super daily driver. There was a screen blackout but I found non-compatable themes to be the problem.
We need a "This works check list kind of thread" so people know what does work. FWIW.
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This is the best battery life I have had on any rom.
Yeah, I also had the wifi not reconnecting problem but that was trivial. I'm back to stock now, the last straw was the phone not even reconnecting to 3G, I lost all data connectivity. I could deal with the battery and such, but the cell/data connectivity problems are a definite no-go for me.
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I think these problems are rare, sorry. I do share the "wifi not reconnecting" but wifi fixer is a work around. This is a super daily driver. There was a screen blackout but I found non-compatable themes to be the problem.
We need a "This works check list kind of thread" so people know what does work. FWIW.
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This is the best battery life I have had on any rom.
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Maybe you can start one of those threads.
I also notice a fast battery drain but the rom hasn't settled in yet and it may need more time to do so.
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My issues are (minor):
One of my game can not be played (Siegecraft - after downloading the game data, the system ends with "network error") all my other games play fine, so I don't know why.
Gallery app constantly re-starts when trying to view pics. No work around it. If anyone can suggest a good gallery replacement app, please let me know, I tried Gallery Plus (I think that is what it is called) and it also did the same thing.
Major issue (Maybe not an issue):
My wife claims that some phone calls are not going through (it rings from her end, but I am not hearing the ringing on my phone for some reason - I had 5 missed calls listed on my phone). That said, 3 or 4 test calls I made came through without any issues so maybe it is the issue with the ringer not being high enough for me to hear?
Overall, so far, except for the missed calls (which may not be an issue at all) it is a very good daily driver and hopefully after things settle down a bit more it will get even better.
Navigation/Maps/Latitude issue with GPS
When I go into Navigation or Maps or Latitude, especially Navigation, there is a constant message at the bottom of the screen "Searching for GPS".
When looking at Maps, you see the current position but the area is in a fuzzy circle. It didn't happen when I was on stock rooted 2.3.4.
I did see an option to use an external BT GPS but the external is not enabled.
Any ideas?
[EDIT] [Solved] After a reboot, GPS is working fine.
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One minor and a couple of major issues...
- Notification drop-down stops accepting touch input but can still be slid up and down. Reboot fixed
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I had this same problem, reboot fixed but only temporarily as it returned last night again. As of right now I can't get the notification bar drop down to accept input without a reboot. I'm borderline on this being a showstopper as I live off of the notification bar...
I've poured through the settings, but haven't found anything that fixes it. I have the notification bar power widget turned on, turning that off hasn't made a difference either. I'm going to leave it off and reboot, and see if it comes back.
Do you have the notification power widget turned on?
For everyone having problems with CM7, I HIGHLY recommend going in and wiping both cache and dalvik-cache. (Not a data wipe.) This has fixed pretty much every problem I have run into with CM7.
Now for downloading large files, I have found that I have to use tasker to create a "power profile" that never turns off the screen. I do not have the WIFI loosing connection issue that has been reported, however I have noticed (on stock as well) that when the screen times out, downloads all fail or stop. Just my 2 cents.
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For everyone having problems with CM7, I HIGHLY recommend going in and wiping both cache and dalvik-cache. (Not a data wipe.) This has fixed pretty much every problem I have run into with CM7.
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Even though this was done after applying CM7 in BSR? Not sure why doing it again would make any difference, but stranger things have been known to happen.
Now for downloading large files, I have found that I have to use tasker to create a "power profile" that never turns off the screen. I do not have the WIFI loosing connection issue that has been reported, however I have noticed (on stock as well) that when the screen times out, downloads all fail or stop. Just my 2 cents.
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I'm not sure if people have tried this, but it works for me...
Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> WiFi Settings -> (menu button) -> Advanced -> WiFi Sleep Policy
By default it's set to turn wifi off when the screen turns off but can be set to "Never."
I would like to report the only problem I have had with CM7 on my DX2 is one of my apps not restoring data I backed up before flashing. Other than that, I LOVE THIS ROM! I used this ROM on my old Dinc and absolutely loved it then too. I feel at home with CM7, and since this is only a beta version, I can't wait for the final release!
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For everyone having problems with CM7, I HIGHLY recommend going in and wiping both cache and dalvik-cache. (Not a data wipe.) This has fixed pretty much every problem I have run into with CM7.
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I wiped cache and dalvik (even though I did it in the install steps as well) and the frozen notifications problem has not resurfaced for me. I will post again if it returns, but thanks for the tip moon shadow!
Well, I guess I'll give it another shot. Getting back up and running is almost second-nature now, hooray for backups. haha
I'll wipe, flash, boot CM7, reboot, wipe again, and see if things behave any better. I just went back to stock a few days ago and I'm ready to kill it again. Only 2.5 weeks to upgrade devices!
So I've read through the CM7 development threads and through this one regarding some of the issues. I am currently running on Liberty. Since I am still learning the Android world (read: I'm freaking clueless), would you guys suggest changing over to CM7, or staying with Liberty?
Thanks! (from the girl who's trying to learn...)
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So I've read through the CM7 development threads and through this one regarding some of the issues. I am currently running on Liberty. Since I am still learning the Android world (read: I'm freaking clueless), would you guys suggest changing over to CM7, or staying with Liberty?
Thanks! (from the girl who's trying to learn...)
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I have never run the liberty rom but i do recommend cm7. The only issue I've had is with wifi. It loses connection sometimes. I downloaded wifi fixer from the market. It doesn't fix the problem but it does reconnect wifi for me. Some have this problem and some don't.
Make a nandroid and give it a try. If you don't like it you can always go back to liberty.
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I have never run the liberty rom but i do recommend cm7. The only issue I've had is with wifi. It loses connection sometimes. I downloaded wifi fixer from the market. It doesn't fix the problem but it does reconnect wifi for me. Some have this problem and some don't.
Make a nandroid and give it a try. If you don't like it you can always go back to liberty.
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Thanks so much!! I found the directions to give it a try, and realized it was waaaaay more complex than what I felt comfortable doing on my own. Plus, it said I would have to install it from Gingerbread... so that would be 2 installs to complete. May have to wait for my tech guru for this one! However, I'm excited to check it out!
(By the way, I realized that on the couple posts I have, you have helped with both of them. Double thanks. )
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Thanks so much!! I found the directions to give it a try, and realized it was waaaaay more complex than what I felt comfortable doing on my own. Plus, it said I would have to install it from Gingerbread... so that would be 2 installs to complete. May have to wait for my tech guru for this one! However, I'm excited to check it out!
(By the way, I realized that on the couple posts I have, you have helped with both of them. Double thanks. )
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Good luck with whatever you decide but it really isn't as complicated as it sounds. Moonshadow has created some great tutorials to guide you through each step. And you are welcome for the help.
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Well, I guess I'll give it another shot. Getting back up and running is almost second-nature now, hooray for backups. haha
I'll wipe, flash, boot CM7, reboot, wipe again, and see if things behave any better. I just went back to stock a few days ago and I'm ready to kill it again. Only 2.5 weeks to upgrade devices!
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Looks like the notification issues returned for me, great timing. I noticed this time, that one of the notifications that is stuck there is partially Swiped off to the left. I took a screenshot but I'm a nub here and can't post the link.
On another note, I continue to have the wireless problems... dx2 keeps trying to connect, sometimes says disabled. I have set it to never turn off in the screen timeout section. Very weird...
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Well, I went and reinstalled CM7 last night. I was diligent about clearing both caches both before and after install, and again a little later after reinstalling apps, plus I also cleared the battery stats.
Don't want to jinx it, but so far so good. Battery life has been very good, I easily went 16 hours and the battery was still > 50%. No call or SMS issues and no notification bug yet. We'll see how things work over the next couple of days...
I've got horrid battery life (down to 60% in 5 hours of LOW use) and some wifi issues (sometimes has a hard time connecting, sometimes not).
I'm going to try the davlic and cache wipe and report back.
So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
Do you clear the cache in your app settings. If you game a lot than I would definitely start with the game apps first.
Cachemate for root users
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...chemate&pcampaignid=APPU__rOUVPowg5TJBNTAgKAD
Android 5.0.1 is pretty lag free in my opinion
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So, after 8 months of use, my M8 is finally in a situation where I'm kind of sick of it running so poorly. In the past I've always had these issues over time, but I always contributed it mainly to running custom ROM's. Well, when I got my M8, it ran so well I decided to leave it stock. Well it's finally starting to hit a wall and it's more of a frustration than a joy to use. Swype is borderline impossible to use since it lags so bad, freezes are infrequent but occur, etc etc.
So my question is, what are the most likely contributors? Apps that run in the background? Too many apps? Too much space used? I can't think of much else, since, like I said, it's still fully stock. Or is this just what I have to expect from a phone?
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I kept my phone stock for quite some time because I felt I didn't need to change anything, until last week because I was tired of radio issues. Bottom line, ATT sucks at getting updates out, so if your running stock, your firmware is like three updates back. I see a massive improvements in speed and battery with 3.28.1540.5. If you know how, I would S-OFF and upgrade firmware to that and flash the debloated custom stock Rom that comes with root and SU. There are straight forward instructions in the att m8 development thread.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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I might look into this. What I don't get though.. I can understand if new updates are quicker. That makes sense. What doesn't, is how ridiculously poor my phone runs compared to the first few months I had it. It's been like this for every phone I've had. I don't game, I don't have all that many apps. In my running app list, the only self installed things there are Facebook and Swype. I have plenty of extra storage internal and on my SD. So what is it that causes such poor performance over time? I'll definitely have to check out the newer roms and finally s-off.. but I've done plenty of custom roms before with other phones and the same thing always happens, things run fine for a bit and then slowly go to crap.
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Its hard to say what is causing your issue, and aside from saying Swype is lagging (might be an issue with that app itself) and the phone "doesn't run so great anymore" you really haven't provided any specifics of what the problem is. You also haven't indicated if you tried to clear cached as jball suggested, and if so, if it helped at all.
Might be some runaway (poorly coded) AT&T bloat apps. But in general, apps running in the background will not slow the system down much. There are various apps to track battery and memory usage, so you might try one of those, to determine if any particular apps are the culprit.
I can't say I've seen any lag on my M8, but I switch ROMs fairly occasionally, and keep it updated to current Android builds (thanks to s-off). Clearing up your data partition alone might help (but might now, on the other hand) so you might also consider backing up any personal data and doing a factory reset. Wiping the slate clean might solve your issue.
Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Ok.. well a lot info there but one step at a time. I realized my phone is Sunday unusable with Wi-Fi turned on.. which is quite interesting and I'm pretty lost on this one. With Wi-Fi on, it's like my entire phone stops, not just the actual internet speeds. Apps like Facebook take ten seconds just to load, and then the actual content takes sometimes 15 seconds to load or maybe not even at all. Also, keep in mind, my actual internet speeds are fine, and even test perfectly fine on my phone.
As soon as I turn off Wi-Fi, it seems everything on my phone I'd dramatically quicker and everything loads near immediate. I've tried restarting my phone, cycling airplane mode, not really sure what else to do.
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Does it happen anywhere you use WiFi? If so maybe try fully wiping and flashing the firmware, or just bust out the ruu to make it easier, can't hurt to try it should help tho
Did you even try to wipe cache, as has been suggested twice previously?
Otherwise, if no major system changes, and the phone has just been running worse and worse, a factory reset may help; as I would have to think it may be 3rd party apps that are to blame. Backup your personal data, factory reset, and just start to install a minimum of apps, and see how it runs.
If still no improvement, the above comment to try to RUU is not a bad idea, either. RUU provides a fully "blank slate" and may solve your issue.
Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
Badouken said:
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
iBolski said:
One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
corz123 said:
good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
corz123 said:
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
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Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
iBolski said:
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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jfriend33 said:
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.
I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
vadimo said:
I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
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Nope! Oreo running smooth on my n8!
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Oreo running fantastic on my Note 8, not one complaint since day one,
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vadimo said:
I am frustrated user of Note 8, received it early September 2017, been using without any issues until Oreo update arrived in May 2018.
Once phone was updated i have done factory restore and start clean, i have done same procedure twice as i am having the following issues running phone in high performance mode:
1. The phone used to run smooth in Power Saving Mode, now its sluggish
2. Pretty sure there is greater delay between finger print sensor reading and screen turning on
3. General UI laggy, in performance mode its no longer as snappy as it used to be
4. The edge panel can sometimes slide out but stutter on animation
5. Camera launching from the hard button press, can have delay or stutter to launch too
6. Battery feels like gotten worse
Anyone else can agree?
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Are you on the original Oreo update?
Never had any problems...
I agree with OP. It has gotten worse. I use to go a full day without having to charge it. Now after Oreo, I'm at near 78% after 4 hrs of YouTube background play compared to 86 to 84% on nougat.
factory reset your phone. my battery and performance has only gotten better since 8.0.
Got to agree with everyone I'm on AT&T Note 8 running smoothly like butter no issues at all on Oreo.
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DeeXii said:
Are you on the original Oreo update?
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Yes, not rooted
Maybe it's different for me, my phone is unlocked, update came via Samsung direct.
Already reset my phone twice so won't be doing it again, just want it back how it was.
This is nonsense, Note 8 got better with every Oreo update month by month, everything is butter smooth and battery is better than Nougat.
Dean-xXx said:
This is nonsense, Note 8 got better with every Oreo update month by month, everything is butter smooth and battery is better than Nougat.
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How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
Jammol said:
How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
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And i also agree with this :good:
DeeXii said:
Are you on the original Oreo update?
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Jammol said:
How is it nonsense? So because yours and others work fine, this person can't be having issues? Why do people keep making such ignorant statements without thinking things through?!
Others have had a bad experience with Oreo, and not just a handful(5).
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He is probably busy posting other nonsense replies.
Have you seen any similar threads to mine with resolution? I dont sign in here much anymore, partly due to Note 9 software been so good that I felt it needs no rooting and was happy with stock setup and apps from Google play store.
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I disagree. My Exynos N950F has still been smooth since the day I got it out of the box. I only got the base update to Oreo (possibly due to my CSC). My experience has been good so far. My phone has never been sluggish while playing games or multitasking using multi-window or App-Pair (whatever the feature is called in the GraceUI).
I'd suggest you backup, wipe (again), and restore your phone in increments until you find the root cause. I'm willing to bet that your issue is with an app that runs in the background. Are all your installs from the Google Play Store, and not APKs from questionable third parties?
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I disagree. My Exynos N950F has still been smooth since the day I got it out of the box. I only got the base update to Oreo (possibly due to my CSC). My experience has been good so far. My phone has never been sluggish while playing games or multitasking using multi-window or App-Pair (whatever the feature is called in the GraceUI).
I'd suggest you backup, wipe (again), and restore your phone in increments until you find the root cause. I'm willing to bet that your issue is with an app that runs in the background. Are all your installs from the Google Play Store, and not APKs from questionable third parties?
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As I said I won't be resetting for 3rd time, if it was dirty app I would of identified. If you are familiar with recent android features if got pretty at identifying bad apps too.
After each reset I gradually loadedvphone with apps and settings.
vadimo said:
Yes, not rooted
Maybe it's different for me, my phone is unlocked, update came via Samsung direct.
Already reset my phone twice so won't be doing it again, just want it back how it was.
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I'd flash latest full stock with Odin using full wipe. Better than factory reset for clearing out persistent issues. Aside from that not sure what else can be suggested. Oreo has been running great here with every OTA.
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As I said I won't be resetting for 3rd time, if it was dirty app I would of identified. If you are familiar with recent android features if got pretty at identifying bad apps too.
After each reset I gradually loadedvphone with apps and settings.
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I suggest downloading the firmware of the version you are currently on if you care about rooting in the future and flash it with Odin. Seems like you're on v3 bootloader based on your post. Go from that direction with testing.
I agree with the battery being worse. For me standby drain is way higher on Oreo. On N I would lose about 5% overnight. Now around 11-15%. Phone is smooth though
Yes I agree oreo is laggy and a battery hog on my at&t note 8. Other then the android version being different I see no visible ui changes vs 7.1.1. Why do they keep changing the bootloader? Dont understand that.
note3userr said:
I agree with the battery being worse.
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Do you have a Snapdragon or Exynos device?
My Exynos N950F only drains 1% overnight, but I only got 1 update TO Oreo since I got my device (out of the box).