Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
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Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
corz123 said:
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
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Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
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Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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jfriend33 said:
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.
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pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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pretty much based on size and its waterproof feature. I do a lot of hunting, fishing and snowmobiling. I primarily plan to use this device for GPS and mapping and wondering if I can rely on it in favor of my Garmin Dakota 20. There's not much on the web that addresses its capabilities in this specific manner. Will I be disappointed? Are there specific ROMS available that might improve my experience in using the device in this manner? I'd obviously be interested in optimal battery life. I did order a couple of spare 1800mAh batteries and standalone charger in hopes of getting me through a solid day on the trail.
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There are some roms, who improve battery life, don't know about gps. But if you install another rom, you will void your warranty and you won't be able to flash the specific original rom for your region, cause for most devices there's only the generic rom to flash (shouldn't be a problem if you have to take it to service, just that you know)...
If you want to use the active instead of your garmin, you will have to find a very good navigation app, because as I think, you need something for area where are no streets, too. And most navigation apps haven't got this feature...
I have an active myself. If you want to keep it down to it's basic functions (which is basically already set as an outdoors device) i would suggest that you don't upgrade to ics and keep the original gingerbread software which has far less battery draining than any ics based rom. About the GPS, i used it severalk times for travbelling and never for tracking so don't know how it works in deep thick woods, but always had speedy lock on and precise navigation. Unlike above user stated most navigation (one with offline maps would probably be best) apps are for trekking and offraod activities, what you can do is modify your gps.conf file to make it specific to your region or area so satellite lock time will be much improved. Just search the forum for gps speed fixes, there's also a patch for agps to help increase satellite locking time.
I own this phone and wanted to do the same as you.
All setups i tried were not stable. sometimes the external power cable got disconnected, sometimes just the app closed.
after months of testing, i reverted to gamin products as they offer a much more rugged and robust hardware. I never managed to track > 20 hours on my active-phone.
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Thanks for all of your input folks.
I did receive the phone on Friday and had a chance to check it out over the weekend. My first impression is that it has a comfortable size and mass to it and I do not mind the screen size at all. It seems quite speedy and the (Gingerbread) OS operates like butter. I did have difficulty getting the GPS function to lock at first. After prolonged attempts, it wasn't until I installed an app called GPS Test did it finally lock - not quite sure what the difference was, perhaps AGPS may have been responsible. Since then however, I have been attempting to maintain GPS-only locating as I am certain that data would not be available in the majority of my usage areas. I looked at most of the GPS Mapping/Tracking apps and settled on the paid version of AlpineQuest - excellent app. I got my waypoints from my Garmin loaded onto my SD card and was quickly navigating the trails in the woods behind my house. Great stuff!
I got just over 8hrs of solid use out of the first charge on the stock battery, so the phone should keep up with a full day on the trails. I have also ordered a couple of spare batteries and standalone charger for backup. Since this first day of use, I have been using the GPS Test app exclusively to verify my satellite lock prior to using AlpineQuest. I did notice that after prolonged non-usage or following a charge cycle I did have some difficulty locking on to the satellites, however each time it was solved with a phone reboot - after which the GPS Test app would lock on within seconds (even inside the house). Each time I was in airplane mode with WiFi off. I will have to monitor the satellite locking for consistency before I am all in with this device but so far I am quite please with its (stock) performance.
the phone & the user may be active, but the battery is certainly not. the display is not that bright under bright sunlight situations :X
hi, i have the active as well and so far i am pretty satisfied.. not VERY satisfied due to Battery life.. but without that issue, I am satisfied...
I have dropped this baby 4 times already on concrete (2 waist level 2 chest level) and the phone just bounced without any cracked screen (it does have some dents on the silver lining around the screen though), but i can guarantee that this phone is shock proof because on those 4 times, the phone did not even turn-off or restart or even battery breaking out from its case...
I do not do trails but so far, the NavFree app has been very good to me with my driving direction needs... easy locking with GPS and pretty good directions...
Try also searching for build.prop tweaks in the development area of this forum because i think it can help in the phone's performance and a little bit of battery life.. i can do intermittent non-heavy image/flash website surfing and the battery could last more than 8 hours and if I just have my phone on stand by (just waiting for messages and calls and reply to them) battery could last more than 24 hours...
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
rullean said:
I have to ask you though, were those 1800 batteries better than the 1200 ? I was also thinking of buying spares...
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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I haven't got them yet, but these are the one's I ordered.
I'm on the .62 build so looks like I have to flash an earlier firmware just to get root. I'd really like to get rid of some of this extra crap and get link2sd going. If you are rooted, what firmware are you running? I just hope the GPS performs just as well on an earlier build.
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you have to tell me if you notice some increase in battery life with those 1800's...
regarding rooting, i followed this procedure with no problem: http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/241059
just follow it step by step.. also, if you are not aware, you have to flash the kernel using the flashtool before you can flash the rom through CWM.... in anyway, you should not be afraid of bricking your phone because I was able to always restore my phone through that link's procedure.. however, pls do not take my word on it because what works for me might not work for you even if we have the same phone... we still might have a different stock.. so rooting your phone is always at your own risk (my disclaimer, hehehe)...
regarding rom, i find the free experia rom's quite good... after initial loading of the rom, i got more than 400mb free internal space.. so they did remove a lot of bloated apps that you dont really use...
just as side note: i installed cm10 fxp138 on my active and the battery lasts for 36hours and more. i really like 4.1 jb.
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OK, so I am rooted and remain locked. I ended up flashing stock 4.0.2.A.0.42 and then this ROM:
ROM][GB][ALL MDPI] HASA v5 [2.3.7][27/9/12]
My prayers have been answered! This ROM is fast and lean! Thanks very much to sandy7 for his work on this! I followed his instructions exactly as in his first post, however did not need to install the revised camera lib as I had no issues with the camera. I've had absolutely zero issues and love the speed.
Now for the battery life. I finally got the spare batteries I mentioned in the previous post (shipped from China). My initial observation is that these batteries smoke the stock one by a large margin. I still need to spend a little more time on this ROM to be certain. As mentioned before, my goal is to replace my standalone GPS unit with this phone. I am not using phone or data, so I am in airplane mode all the time. I am using wifi a bit. With the stock battery I got about 1 day and 12 hours of standby and light use on wifi and gps with 10% remaining. On the replacement battery I got 3 days and 16 hours with 35% remaining before I decided to try the stock battery again. The stock battery began to drain as soon as I put it in and was down to 85% within the first hour. I don't know, perhaps these stock batteries are junk? I am open to suggestions on how to properly do a test and comparison.
omg.. really? so those china batteries work for you? damn.. I want those.. i will buy those..
Am I the only one? I just updated 3 days ago with RUU to the latest build. Before the update a full charge would last me about a day and a half with moderate use. Now with the new update I am lucky to last half a day without it going into Power Saving Mode, then about 2 hours later it will be in Extreme Power Saving Mode. Anyone else getting sh!tty battery life since the update?...
Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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At the risk of sounding like a noob.... Whats ART?
Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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How is asking if anyone is noticing decreased battery life after 1.58 any different from comparing battery life? Its the same thing.
I can guarantee that there are some people that have experienced worse battery life; and some have seen the same or better battery after 1.58 (as this has and will occur for any new OTA/RUU).
Not trying to be argumentative, but my point is whether folks have seen decreased battery life or not is somewhat irrelevant, and isn't going to solve your problem. Better to look into what processes are actually causing the drain, and go from there.
try booting into stock recovery and wiping cache partition...has helped some folks in past
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
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I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
Moved to Q&A / Troubleshooting section.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
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Oh yeah, full charge yesterday, using it just as much as I normally would and when I plugged it before I went to be still had 86% battery life. Compared to being on 15% by 4 in the afternoon.
I have noticed big battery drains while using themer I have a note 3 rooted using vision US T-mo version known for insane battery life. can anyone confirm? and can anyone add advice to retain battery life?
Same problem differer hardware
I have the.LG Optimus l90, rooted but otherwise stock. Normally I get home from work with 40%-60%, after installing Themer I am lucky if I have10%-20% even after going out of my way to conserve battery life. I have tried several different themes but it still just eats my battery like a Sumo wrestler going at an all you can eat buffet. I love the app and would prefer to continue using it but I had to uninstall do to battery drain. I would appreciate any help other than the obvious battery savers and turning off features that I want, need and use.
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I have noticed big battery drains while using themer I have a note 3 rooted using vision US T-mo version known for insane battery life. can anyone confirm? and can anyone add advice to retain battery life?
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Hi,
We are aware of this problem and the developers are currently looking into it. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Just confirming on other hardware (that's not officially supported yet)
I was using Themer the other day on my LG G3 (Yeah, I know, it isn't technically supported yet), and I noticed a pretty drastic battery drain compared to Nova.
On the other hand, the only other bugs I could find with Themer on the G3 is the fact that some categories are blocked "because your device is not supported" and the previews aren't full screen, which I could care less about.
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I was using Themer the other day on my LG G3 (Yeah, I know, it isn't technically supported yet), and I noticed a pretty drastic battery drain compared to Nova.
On the other hand, the only other bugs I could find with Themer on the G3 is the fact that some categories are blocked "because your device is not supported" and the previews aren't full screen, which I could care less about.
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Full G3 support should be arriving soon!
I can confirm the battery drain issue is pretty drastical on my xperia z1c. With Themer, a full charge dropped to almost 50% just overnight, but with sony's default launcher, it can last more than 2 days with just moderate use.:crying:
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Full G3 support should be arriving soon!
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Sweet! Can't wait! Will battery drain be fixed?
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ZeSneakyNinja said:
Sweet! Can't wait! Will battery drain be fixed?
Sent from my LG G3 on Verizon Wireless
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The latest update should fix the battery drain.
I'm curious if anyone has noticed improved battery life? One of the main reasons I just switched phones was for improved battery life so I'm a little hesitant to try themer out now.
Hoping for this fix...my Nexus 5 has some pretty significant batt loss with Themer. I love this app...!
I will try it again and report back. I bought a 8600mah battery because themer was eating more then 45% of my battery. It was more then my screen on full brightness. It was the NUMBER 1 BATTERY HOG I HAVE EVER USED. So it will be hard for me to compare with such a large battery in my note 3 though.
Maybe its because of your apps are draining your battery or it could be your ROM's problem. Reset your phone and it should be fine if you are using stock ROM. For custom ROMs, I don't think there is any solution. Like me, after I flashed cm 10, my battery is draining twice as fast compared to my stock...
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Maybe its because of your apps are draining your battery or it could be your ROM's problem. Reset your phone and it should be fine if you are using stock ROM. For custom ROMs, I don't think there is any solution. Like me, after I flashed cm 10, my battery is draining twice as fast compared to my stock...
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I know it wasn't my rom, in fact it was quite the opposite. Had twice the battery life over stock, with over 200 apps installed.
But here's an update, been running themer all day and its more on par to what it should be. I've had heavy usage today, moving and adjusting things in themer and its only used 12% today, compared to 35%, is a significant improvement. Redraw has also been cut significantly along with lag time.
I must say im impressed.....
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I know it wasn't my rom, in fact it was quite the opposite. Had twice the battery life over stock, with over 200 apps installed.
But here's an update, been running themer all day and its more on par to what it should be. I've had heavy usage today, moving and adjusting things in themer and its only used 12% today, compared to 35%, is a significant improvement. Redraw has also been cut significantly along with lag time.
I must say im impressed.....
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Thanks for the feedback! Our developers are constantly looking for new ways to improve performance and reduce battery consumption.
Same here!
I installed Themer for the first time today, and noticed my stock AT&T HTC1 M8 battery drained dramatically! I can go from 5:15AM until midnight with 35-40% left and that's listening to music, texting, Facebooking, news feed, etc. all going. I love the idea and the themes are beautiful, but I don't think its ready for prime-time, unless it's specific to the latest release.
UPDATE: I'm running AT&T stock rom on my HTC One M8 as you know. Now I can only speak for my specific setup but it may be worth a try for all. What I've done is reverted back to HTC BlinkFeed, remove the Theme notification bar, and rebooted to clear my cache. Upon reboot I then loaded up a fresh theme (without the Theme notification bar), after several hours of use, listening to music from my SDCARD, BT on, and Mobile data on I can report back that I've regained my battery life, and I'm now sporting one of the badass Themes without skipping a beat
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I installed Themer for the first time today, and noticed my stock AT&T HTC1 M8 battery drained dramatically! I can go from 5:15AM until midnight with 35-40% left and that's listening to music, texting, Facebooking, news feed, etc. all going. I love the idea and the themes are beautiful, but I don't think its ready for prime-time, unless it's specific to the latest release.
UPDATE: I'm running AT&T stock rom on my HTC One M8 as you know. Now I can only speak for my specific setup but it may be worth a try for all. What I've done is reverted back to HTC BlinkFeed, remove the Theme notification bar, and rebooted to clear my cache. Upon reboot I then loaded up a fresh theme (without the Theme notification bar), after several hours of use, listening to music from my SDCARD, BT on, and Mobile data on I can report back that I've regained my battery life, and I'm now sporting one of the badass Themes without skipping a beat
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Thanks for the feedback! We're currently working on ways to optimize the notification toolbar this week, so it should be working a lot better in the coming weeks ahead
What a fortuitous coincidence
Battery drain is a bit more than with Themer for me as well, but not too bad.
I noticed though that the charge goes down when I'm using the phone even when plugin, now this is not the case normally because the charge would increase when plugin, using the phone or not.
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Battery drain is a bit more than with Themer for me as well, but not too bad.
I noticed though that the charge goes down when I'm using the phone even when plugin, now this is not the case normally because the charge would increase when plugin, using the phone or not.
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Hi,
We're still working on performance optimization, but for now try this:
1. Uninstall Themer.
2. Delete the /sdcard/MyColorScreen/ folder (removing the Exported folder within it if you saved any themes).
3. Reinstall Themer.
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2. Delete the /sdcard/MyColorScreen/ folder (removing the Exported folder within it if you saved any themes).
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OK but that's uh, not great since I saved many themes to uh, use them.
So i got my s8 a few days ago (yay) and noticed some of its horrendous issues within an hour of usage, so i started looking around for fixes and stumbled upon Eragon (Rom) and have been attempting to get that on to my phone with no luck. I have little to no experience messing around with phones. I followed the guide per Skeleton1911 and can't even get the Vcom driver's working properly. Pretty frustrated and confused at this point and decided to reach out for help/advice. Or any possible alternatives.
What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
map002 said:
What issues are you experiencing that you hope will be solved by this ROM?
I only ask because it might be a hardware issue and therefore a sign to return the phone for a replacement from your vendor while that's still an option.
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4g connectivity seems to be pretty bad/unstable. Battery life is pretty meh. Most if not all of the issue with this phone is pretty much fixed by the Eragon rom hence why I'm trying so hard to get it installed.
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
map002 said:
OK, fair enough. I do understand battery life is improved under Eragon, and OS RAM usage is reduced.
I just read 'horrendous issues' and wondered what that meant exactly, as I've found the battery life on stock to be reasonably OK. The only 'horrendous' issues, in my experience, are the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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I can't confirm battery improvement with eragon rom. After a few weeks I had a massive battery drain of about 15% per hour without any heavy usage. The phone was in my pocket with wifi and bluetooth active. I didn't install any new apps and I already I flashed cache and dalvik. The only thing that helped was getting back to stock. Now battery is back to normal and I don't experience any major differences in performance, multitasking or ram usage.
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
map002 said:
A good example of just how different people's experiences can be, depending on their usage patterns and which set of apps they have installed. Thanks for sharing your experience, Steve.
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It seems a matter of luck if you get a full working s8 or not. Maybe there are different builds, depending on where ist was made.
I am using gps from the first day without any problems, no matter if on stock or eragon rom. My s8 just gets warm when playing games but not hot. I think the perfomance is good (no matter which rom) but I would have expected a much higher antutu score from a deca-core chipset and 4gb ram. The battery performance is not better or worse (on stock rom) compared to my earlier smartphones like the oneplus one. I expected the lack of support from the elephone company just as it is, so I am not disappopinted at this point.
I think it's also worth keeping in mind that people are more likely to post when something goes wrong than when something goes as expected, so folks with a defective item are more likely to post complaints than someone who's phone just works.
That being said, I do expect quality control at a third-tier device manufacturer will not be as good as at one of the major players.
And yeah, the big battery is just there to provide adequate battery life despite the huge screen. In my usage, even with the brightness turned down, the screen accounts for 75% of my battery usage on average.
It's a great screen for a cheap phone like this, but it is a trade-off. No such thing as a free lunch.
Finally! Some people are talking sense here and not just complaining about their devices.
For me, I think it's pointless to compare this phone with flagship devices. You can't just say that "on my one plus/galaxy..." because you paid better bucks for those so they got to be damn better!
I have not got any complaints on my device because as I have read on another post here, "You sound set your expectations".
When you bought this, you have a certain use case and if the phone fulfills that, then the phone has already served its purpose.
Please don't expect our units to be top notch as the price won't allow that.
What kind of 4G issue was resolved by this ROM?
Scoundral said:
the 4g connectivity along with the battery life a very lack luster, which are some of the fixes that come with Eragon.
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Can you explain what kind of 4G issues it resolves
After doing some research I found out that the ROM will NOT fix network issues.
Re Oreo
For what it is worth, from the Elephone forum today.
ashish replied at 2018-2-17 03:58 AM
"Plz update the android as almost every compay providing android oreo update but elephone s8 still ha ...
got this on Facebook .
(we do our best to release an oreo update for the S8 as fast as possible. Did you know, that our biggest competitor, that charges 3-4x the price of our S8, just canceled their release of Android 8.0 for their newest device? Google the news Why? Because their update was rushed and released way to early, causing a lot of trouble to many users. Do you want that to happen? We don't. That's why our update will only be released when it's done and can deliver a flawless experience to ALL users of the S8. Therefore we kindly ask for your patience. Have a nice day, your ELEPHONE Team)"
It is true many of the big players have pulled or cancelled their Oreo updates in the last few weeks. Be nice if Ele would try another 7.x update with another attempt to fix the camera though.
I suspect that their dev team has its hands full trying to get everything they got wrong on 7.x right on 8. And I doubt they have the resources to have two teams working on S8 firmware development.
Just my edjumakated guess, mind you. ?
map002 said:
the camera and the GPS, neither of which are changed or improved on Eragon. But we all have our personal measurements for such things.
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so it's normal thing that GPS do't work and camera makes meh photos?
Also, is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
I did not say the GPS did not work. If your GPS does not work at all, you should return your phone to the shop where you bought it. It's defective.
What I did say is that the GPS isn't great, as is par for the course on Mediatek based phones. If you need great GPS, this is not the phone for you.
Spend more money and buy something better, maybe with a Qualcomm chipset. Or buy a used last-gen flagship phone with good GPS performance.
As for the camera, it's crappy. All the reviews I've seen have pointed out the focus hunting. It's sub par and mostly a problem with the software.
That being said, yes, sub par cameras on cheap Chinese third tier OEM phones do tend to be sub par in one way or another. This one's just notably bad at the moment. Maybe always, if they don't eventually release another firmware for it.
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
This is a terrible first phone for most people. This is a pretty bad device for a novice, it's more of a hobbyist phone. But XDA is a place for that kind of crowd, so my comments were framed accordingly.
I really like it, but I knew what I was buying. I don't use the camera and only make occasional use of the GPS. And I make heavy use of the screen for watching videos and I am not a fan of 18:9. The S8 is a big win for me there.
You probably would have been better served, in this price range, by a Motorola phone, to be honest. If you're still within your exchange window, I would recommend swapping it for something more mainstream.
Best of luck!
matizo said:
... is there an option that phone screen will turn on for a while when I'm receiving a notification? I know there is something like that in android but I couldn't find it. Sorry It's my first android phone and I just feel lost
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.nullgrad.glimpse
Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Install this and the screen will wake for notifications. You can also disable individual apps, like I did with Spotify, to prevent the screen from waking when listening to music on my Mac.
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Thank you
map002 said:
And if this is your first Android phone, I can understand the confusion. Especally if you're coming from fruit phones, where everything just works on pretty much all of them.
Best of luck!
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I'm not even from apple family. I'm one of old guard of Windows phone, and everyday I'm more and more surprised that android won this competition.
I have no chance for fully refund, since I already own it few months, but I see I need to contact a seller. But I think they'll reject it because I dropped it once, and I have beautiful spider web at back -.- (It's not very sturdy). I think I need to revive my lumia for gps usage.
New to elephone s8 but not new to Chinese smart phones. I was hoping this ROM fixed some issues but hasn't thus far. Phone constantly drops signal to point where i can't receive or make calls. Still trying to figure out if that is due to phone not support on my network or not. Which is odd cause at times phone is fine, flying speed full coverage others its the complete opposite. One other bug I was hoping it fixed was screen being unresponsive. Like i try to swipe up to unlock or use fingerprint but it just vibrates to acknowledge I touched it and does nothing. I am looking for work around before i get fed up and sell it or something. I really love the feel of phone physically and how software works when its working.
I'm getting very poor battery life with my Note 4, which seems to be much worse since a recent update. When I first got the phone a few months ago the battery life was fantastic but now it's almost as bad as my old Moto G2!
I get up in the morning and over a couple of hours spend a bit of time (not constantly for 2 hours) on WiFi checking e-mail, social media, etc. and my battery goes from 100% to 70%. Then I don't use the phone, go out for about an hour listening to Spotify music (offline) using my BT earbuds and when I get home it's down to 40%.
As you can see from the screenshots, it doesn't seem to be the apps I'm using that are draining the battery as "Android system" is responsible for 74% of the battery use. This has maybe 50 packages listed under it, so I think it will be rather hard to identify which one is responsible.
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
Are you using MTK or SD?
doveman said:
Any ideas what I can do to fix this?
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Dont use MIUI, that's a good start. (hopefully you have Snapdragon variant otherwise you're screwed)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ical-world-t3778813/post76596539#post76596539
andresteare said:
Are you using MTK or SD?
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I can't remember how to check but I'm 99% sure it's SD. It's mido if that proves anything.
I installed Greenify and hibernated a few things and that's helped a bit, although it's still not brilliant. I also installed Amplify but the results don't mean anything to me, so I've attached some screenshots in case anything stands out (more in next post due to max.4)
Remaining screenshots.
k3lcior said:
Dont use MIUI, that's a good start. (hopefully you have Snapdragon variant otherwise you're screwed)
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ical-world-t3778813/post76596539#post76596539
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Yeah I've been thinking of changing ROM tbh. Something that annoys me about MIUI is it only allows you to enter a numeric decryption code on boot. I know how to set it to something different than the unlock code and normally use an alpha-numeric code but that's not an option with MIUI as I wouldn't be able to enter it!
I have App Quarantine installed so I was thinking I could try freezing certain system/MIUI apps but if I'm going to change ROM I guess it's not really worth it. The problem I have is choosing a ROM, as there's so many and battery life, whilst important, isn't the only thing that matters to me. The decryption code thing is important, as is full dual-SIM functionality. OTA upgrades is one thing that MIUI has in it's favour and I guess that's not an option with third-party ROMS but upgrades being made available in a way that they can be installed without wiping the phone would be nice, if possible. Dual apps, Second space and Call/SMS blocklist are all quite handy features in MIUI too.
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The problem I have is choosing a ROM, as there's so many and battery life, whilst important, isn't the only thing that matters to me.
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MiracleDROID, give it a go, it's one of the better ROM's i have used on Mido very underrated.
Or OmniROM if you want weekly OTA (Delta updates) just like in MIUI.
And dont expect miracles right after flashing it, give it atleast 1 charging cycle to settle.
Same problem with me .. Battery temperature goes to 41 degree ++ and after night I have to see my low battery