Horrible battery life on 1.58.502.1 - AT&T HTC One (M8)

Am I the only one? I just updated 3 days ago with RUU to the latest build. Before the update a full charge would last me about a day and a half with moderate use. Now with the new update I am lucky to last half a day without it going into Power Saving Mode, then about 2 hours later it will be in Extreme Power Saving Mode. Anyone else getting sh!tty battery life since the update?...

Try using ART, in Developer Options.

dudeluv said:
Try using ART, in Developer Options.
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At the risk of sounding like a noob.... Whats ART?

Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.

redpoint73 said:
Battery life is incredibly complex and elusive. Asking if other experience the same is all but useless. Reason being, such comparisons are just anecdotal and will often not apply to you. There are simply too many variables, such as how you use your phone, what apps, and often most important is reception in your local area. It could be that the new radio deployed with 1.58 simply does not play well in your area. The intent is to always be "improving" the radio software, but its the minority of cases where it actually gets worse, which can greatly affect battery life.
Also, I've seen a lot of cases where AT&T bloatware runs out of control and kills the battery. You might start by looking into this. There are various apps that allow you to accurately see what apps are using battery (in addition to the Usage in Settings). Lots of folks here seem to like Watchdog Task Manager.
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Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.

CavyS said:
Right I understand that, but what I'm really asking are those who updated to 1.58.502.1 from the older build, did you notice a decrease in battery life... Not trying to compare my battery life to someone elses, I get how that is an impossible answer.
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How is asking if anyone is noticing decreased battery life after 1.58 any different from comparing battery life? Its the same thing.
I can guarantee that there are some people that have experienced worse battery life; and some have seen the same or better battery after 1.58 (as this has and will occur for any new OTA/RUU).
Not trying to be argumentative, but my point is whether folks have seen decreased battery life or not is somewhat irrelevant, and isn't going to solve your problem. Better to look into what processes are actually causing the drain, and go from there.

try booting into stock recovery and wiping cache partition...has helped some folks in past

I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.

CavyS said:
I actually did what dudeluv said and am using ART now. Waaaaay better battery life, actually better than it was previously. Havnt ran into any bugs in it yet either. But we will see as time goes on.
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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.

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Interesting, I would not have thought switching to ART would make such a huge difference. Thanks for posting an update.
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Oh yeah, full charge yesterday, using it just as much as I normally would and when I plugged it before I went to be still had 86% battery life. Compared to being on 15% by 4 in the afternoon.

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Does 2.06 provide better battery life?

I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
It seems to have improved, but I've done quite a few hard resets and other various testing, so I can't say how much.. But it definitely seems to have improved..
thuggin said:
I read through all the threads about the new upgrades, but I have not seen anyone talk about power consumption and battery life.
Can someone who has done the upgrade lay out the differences?
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About twice a week I have HELL days were the phone gets a work out and tomarrow is one of them.
The old Cingular ROM:
Turn on Phone at 6am-by 12 noon it would be dead, I use a lot of 3G and video streaming.
Tomarrow will be the first hell day since the new ROM, so I will report back tomarrow night and let you know how it goes.
After several days with the new ROM and a full day with the new 1.33 radio it appears that battery life is definitely improved.
I am running radio 1.27 and i can say that with this .rom battery has improved somewhat from what i saw in 1.20.....
The battery life is definitely better on the new ROMs. I'm running 1.27 Radio ROM and with a 3000mah battery my phone last around 10 hours now.
I certainly hope so. I would like to consider myself a power user. I have my push email downloading every 2 minutes. So I am usually dead by 3pm. I hope this will be better under those conditions.
Are people here using the battery saving hacks on the Wiki or are you using the default ROM settings? I have not checked, they might be the same in the new ROM.
I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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I'm only using the default ROM settings.. Minus a few CABs in the extended ROM, but those are mostly things that annoy me anyway (like the Good Email and such)..
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Has anyone tried the tweaks on the Wiki with this ROM? If so, how much battery asving do you get and what are the possible side effects?
bat life is so much better.... it would almost be dead by 10pm.. not its still over half by 10

New user - surprised at poor battery life - help?

I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
StevenBX said:
I'm a new Galaxy S II (and new Android) user, and am a bit disappointed in the battery life of my new phone. It was running down extremely quickly yesterday, only lasting about 12 hours with relatively normal use (sending half a dozen texts, downloading 2 apps, checking Facebook and Twitter once an hour or so for a couple of minutes throughout the day). I allowed the phone to discharge completely and charged it fully last night, but this morning nothing seems to have improved. I burned up 10% of the battery in half an hour sending 2 texts, checking my emails, Facebook and Twitter and downloading and trying out a couple of apps.
I'm anxious to know if there's a bit of a burn-in time with the battery on this thing - does it get better after a few charges? I see a lot of people saying they can have the phone on for a few days in some cases, but that's definitely not my experience thus far.
I've installed JuiceDefender (balanced profile), AutoKiller Memory and Advanced Task Killer to try to sort things out but none of them seem to having too much effect and to be quite honest I'd rather not have to compromise my experience by running a number of apps like this to try to extend my battery life at all (nor do I want to have to turn the brightness right down to an unusable level, or set black wallpapers for example).
Does anyone have any real advice on this? I'm starting to think that switching ROMs might be worthwhile? I see that the leaked 2.3.4 ROM seems to have better battery life - is this correct? I'm a bit reluctant to switch to any other unofficial ROMs as there are so many I wouldn't know where to start. It seems they all make a lot of changes but I'd want to keep as close to the stock feel as possible, just with better battery life.
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It is argued that task killers and memory killers will only make the problem worse. Juice Defender might be useful if you are using it for scheduling sync and turning WI-FI off when the screen is off, but this feature is only present in the Ultimate edition and you can turn off sync and WI-FI manually if you want. Also beware of rogue apps which are syncing all the time. It is normally the main reason of poor battery life.
Other reason, is that whereas powerful tech specs for phones were rapidly developed, battery technology didn't followed the pace. Our simply batteries cannot cope with our beasts.
Also, there is a thing that it's called "new phone battery blues" which is described as poor battery life due to excessive use of a new powerful toy. After you use your phone normally, for the purposes that normally people use a phone, your battery life will became better.
That said, personally I have a spare battery and a spare charger, and when the battery being used is low, I replace it with the charged one. Sometimes it is necessary, sometimes not.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
Try using better battery stats, link in my sig, to see if you have any wakelocks, the thread has a good howto on using it.
The biggest thing that uses the battery on this phone is the screen, you will get between 4 and 6 hours of screen on time depending on usage and screen brightness.
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Get the original samsung 2000mah extended battery kit.
ahh the battery life talk again
brings back memories of the first days of the SGS2
never thought of reading one again
update to the newest ROM
and read the 1000+ threads about this topic
good day sir
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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Fair point - not all of the roms are everyone's cup of tea. My advice, as a starting point is to flash the stock XXKH3 variant for your area, and then flash a custom kernel, such as Ninphetamine's or Hardcore's Speedmod. This will greatly help with battery life, and also give you the ability (via root access) to use Titanium Backup to freeze apps and services you're not using, which is often the major cause of battery drain through 'wakelocks'; apps that prevent your phone from entering Deep Sleep, or continuously wake it up.
Update to the latest version in your area, uninstall those task killers and whatnot or do a factory reset, install the apps that you are going to use normally like facebook twitter and install better battery stats, decrease brightness to your most tolerable level.
use the phone normally and when the battery is low, use the tool provided in android to check if your phone is sleeping when the screen is OFF, if you are having wakelocks, then use better battery stats to find which apps are causing the wake locks.
No need to install battery management apps, or task killers or memory optimization apps (or as custom rom as yet), that would only compound you problem which may be a very small one to begin with
Thanks for the help so far guys. I've installed XXKH3 and flashed hardcore's Speedmod kernel, and am just getting things set back up the way I like them again. I'm going to uninstall the battery saving apps for now and see how the battery lasts the next couple days.
I'll install Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on any wakelocks too.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction - it was all very simple and quick to get set up; the sheer number of kernels, ROMs, etc. is all a little overwhelming to me right now, being new to Android!
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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They also have a tendency to look very tacky I think though. I think Samsung's skin and widgets are pretty nice and don't care too much for the mods I see in the screens of most ROMs. I'm really looking for something very similar to stock, except with better battery life if there are any suggestions? That's why I was thinking of just jumping to the leaked 2.3.4 if it had any noticeable impact on battery life...
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I'm using stock KH3 with a stock kernel and am perfectly happy with the battery life ...
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wow, good for you
I used HTC Desire before this device, and the roms on there actually hindered battery life, even with all the fancy underclocking, so I am betting, without even attempting to brick my phone, that they are just as overhyped on this phone too.
I get two to three days out of my phone, using it as a PHONE. I can send and receive emails and texts all day, along with phone calls and the occasional browsing and still get at least two days before it dies. I turn off data when I dont want it and stick it in 2G mode and it dares me to kill the battery.
Just let usage settle down and it's fine
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Im also a noob just got phone. Coming from evo, how do I root,
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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there are other tweaks with custom roms that aren't found in the stock rom (which provides better functionality).
btw, i also suggest u use setcpu to underclock your device to save more batt.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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I used this guide to install the latest firmware, and this guide to root it when I was done.
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I've now installed SetCPU too, set to OnDemand. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Beware using anything that isnt ondemand on samsung phones, can cause stuttering, that's what I found anyway.
As far as undervolting -25 to -50mv is a safe first bet.
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poch_1421 said:
no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
vlad88667 said:
Which ones provide the best battery life?
It's not very helpful if you don't direct this poor guy in any direction.
Cheers!
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Use touch x-power 1.0
It is optimized for battery life
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stop the madness.... just disable Gtalk autologin and you'll have x3 batt life....
i'm still on KG2 and see no need to update, as i easily get 2d+ battery life now...
EDIT: oh, and custom roms is for nerds. that's it. stock only.
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no one uses stock roms/kernels nowadays. u should flash a custom rom or kernel since they provided optimizations to batt life.
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That is wrong. I used to have a UGKG2 ROM and since I upgraded to XXKH3, the battery is MUCH better while the GPS pinpoints in less than 3 seconds with a 5meters accuracy.

Best ROM for battery?

New to the galaxy note, any suggestions for roms with good battery life?
blackstar☆ and pawdan for me opinion you try for 2 or 3 day and see who like you
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I've tried every rom available here ...for the I717 ..
And "For Me"..
The best battery life comes from the following builds ..
Saurom ..GB 2.3.6 .....and ..
Flappjaxxx UCLF6 ICS Build #5.
But please remember, that I prefer zeam launcher, and use only a handful of apps and never Widgets.
You simply have to try the builds for yourself, and determine the best balance between performance and features.
But more importantly, the 717 runs best without overclock..IMHO ...and basically using a stock kernel.
Optimization of the build for the device is very important in maintaining a smooth and functional file structure....
That being said, I stick with slightly modified stock builds for the note, and I always disable the stock Touchwiz launcher, as I can confirm it's a battery hog.
But invariably, I feel that Samsung did an excellent job when optimizing GB, while ICS is larger and not as refined...and JB official will correct the ICS bugs.
We can only hope that Samsung releases the JB we see on the note 2....as it truly is an exceptional build.
Good luck in your flashing and optimization of the builds you choose ...g
BlackStar X did the trick for me. I also turned sync off and manually sync my email account. Turning data off also helps otherwise when screen is off battery keeps draining.
I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
quickbird144 said:
I'm also looking for a battery saving ROM. This is insane. Data is rarely on and it's almost always on WiFi. I'm a average to low user. Don't play any games, make a handful of calls a day, text more often. Screen is on for maybe a few minutes at a time.
Currently on Blackstar XI DXLJ2 and it's absolutely horrible. Gonna try Blackstar X and see if it's any better.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
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Watch yourself. I don't do horrible. Lmao. Seriously.
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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Didn't mean it like that! Lol. The ROM itself was amazing, but the battery life was the complete opposite. Again, ROM was GREAT!
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The battery life is no different than any other DXLJ2 rom.
ThE UnknowN
All roms are exactly the same on battery life... That is until you've tested it on your device.
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Its how you use you phone and what you use on your phone that determines the battery life. From a development standpoint, there are minor changes that we can implement to improve battery duration. The difference will be negligible. You might notice an in increase in your battery, but again it won't be much.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Yeah, differences aren't too large. For example, your screen on time will always be in the 4 hour range if you have a medium-ish brightness.
With that said, sometimes a ROM can have a bug and your standby time suffers. I've also noticed the battery curve is sometimes different so it would appear the battery level drops faster but then it slows down and the total time ( from 100 to 0) ends up being the same.
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Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
quickbird144 said:
I've since found a ROM, that with using it the same exact way, battery life is substantially better. That comment wasn't to offend a developer or get into a debate. Obviously a major part is how you use the phone, I know this.
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You didn't offend me. Lmao. I probably know what Rom you are referring too. And I doubt its that it's better. I run all the roms and test them all. Pretty much the same all across the board. In the end it's the user who matters.So if you found a rom you belive is better for you battery wise, then kudos. Im glad you found a rom that works best for you.
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Right on.
Back to basics shall we.
mike208 said:
Holy crap. I'm lucky if I get 2 hours screen on, but thats with auto brightness. maybe I need to set it to medium brightness.
But I too have noticed some large battery differences on ROMS with the same base/kernel. I don't understand it, because as stated, the rom doesn't affect battery much.
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It also depends if you're using LTE. I should qualified my assertion with "just playing video using the hardware decoder".
I went I the play store and bought juice defender ultimate. Makes a big difference, well worth the money in my opinion.
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Here's a little story for ya.
I started out using Ginger stock, the interface felt sluggish coming from an iphone4 (wow I haven't typed "iphone" in such a long time, I feel weird!)
After mucho research, I went for the Eclipse rom. Ultra smooth, gotta love it. Like every other rom (so I've heard), I still get random reboot, but very few, about once a week and sometimes don't get it at all. Battery life is crazily good, loses about 4% overnight with "interactive governor". Music player always stop responding on first open. But I can live with that, just kill app and reopen and it's good to go. Overall, using the Eclipse rom has been a very nice experience.
Then I tried Novena (ICS rom I believe), the interface wasn't as smooth as JB, the battery also drains fast for some reason (yes I have turned off every option that could potentially drain the battery), so I moved on...
Then I tried JellyBeer, smooth just like Eclipse but with more options. However, the battery also drains pretty fast, why? I really don't know, played around for hours but still couldn't figure it out.
At last, I came back to Eclipse, everything is almost just how I want the phone to be.
In retrospect, I hit the jackpot on the first try. But it is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers.
You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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You do know it takes a couple charge cycles for the rom and battery to "settle in" with each other right?
You can't judge Battery life by the few hours you have a rom flashed.. which I bet you were playing with the phone the whole time as well setting everything up the way you like seeing what other options are available all that jazz, making it seem like the rom was killing your battery even more.
Pitting these FREE roms against each other when it really comes down to end user, is unfair to the developers who do this unpaid in their free time.
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Be a man, some works and some just don't. Your mileage may vary.
To quote myself:
"It is certtainly worth the attempt to flash a variety of roms, eventually you will find the one that delivers."

Advice Sought re Battery Life and ROM suitability

Hi to all
I have a rooted unlocked S3 currently on a stock UK ICS ROM (baseband 4.0.4, kernel 3.0.15-928452-user, [email protected] #1, build number IMM76D.I9300xxBLG8).
I get pretty good battery life with this ROM (usually 24 hours with mixed usage of calls/apps/surfing etc) except when the GPS is enabled which seems to deplete the battery pretty quickly.
My questions are:-
Would I see any benefit in terms of battery life bu upgrading to the latest UK stock JB ROM (I think it's I9300XXEMB1 but perhaps someone can clarify)? I ask as, looking through various threads, there seem to be very mixed views and experience.
Is there anything I can do to prolong battery life when I enable GPS?
Many thanks to all who reply :good:
1. I think JB is actually a little better than ICS, but that's me.
2. As a general battery saver, try Greenify from the Play store.
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1. I think JB is actually a little better than ICS, but that's me.
2. As a general battery saver, try Greenify from the Play store.
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Thankyou.
So, in your experience, JB serves up battery life that is "a little better" than ICS?
Is there any difference in battery life between the various stock JB ROMS at all?
Btw, thanks for making me aware of Greenify. Will give it a whirl but not sure it can help with battery drain caused by GPS usage..
largeruk said:
Thankyou.
So, in your experience, JB serves up battery life that is "a little better" than ICS?
Is there any difference in battery life between the various stock JB ROMS at all?
Btw, thanks for making me aware of Greenify. Will give it a whirl but not sure it can help with battery drain caused by GPS usage..
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Well, I don't really remember if it was a little better or a lot better, I tend not to look back on the past, but so far I've seen nothing but positives with JB. I cannot guarantee that it will be the same for you, though. The difference in terms of battery life between the various JB ROMs is negligible.
Well, if you've got Facebook or some other apps constantly wanting access to your GPS, it can cause a battery drain because the GPS is constantly looking for your position. Known culprits are Facebook and Maps, and once Facebook is greenified, you'll see an improvement in battery life, I'm sure of it.
Theshawty said:
Well, I don't really remember if it was a little better or a lot better, I tend not to look back on the past, but so far I've seen nothing but positives with JB. I cannot guarantee that it will be the same for you, though. The difference in terms of battery life between the various JB ROMs is negligible.
Well, if you've got Facebook or some other apps constantly wanting access to your GPS, it can cause a battery drain because the GPS is constantly looking for your position. Known culprits are Facebook and Maps, and once Facebook is greenified, you'll see an improvement in battery life, I'm sure of it.
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I use GPS mainly for car navigation and also when using a geocaching app. Not sure if an app like Greenify will work or have an impact with those 2 uses but certainly willing to give it a try.
Can anyone point me to the latest JB ROM that I should upgrade to? Anything I need to do to preserve root and unlocked status of the phone?
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Battery life in Lollipop goes down?

Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
Badouken said:
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
corz123 said:
good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
corz123 said:
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
Sent from my VK810 4G
Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
iBolski said:
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
jfriend33 said:
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.

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