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Hi guys sorry for this thread new here so please go easy on me. Had a galaxy s2 for a few weeks now and i have to say best phone ever. Did the normal rooting and flashing roms and i have noticed recently that my battery has been going down quite a lot after a few hours. I tried roms like Villainrom, Cognition, Batista and etc which i find them very good but on my battery stats it says that i have high display usage and the percentage is like 56 - 85 and sometimes goes and stays to 91. i have since then when back to 2.3.3 stock firmware rooted it as well and i only have display percentage of only 25% which i think is normal and my battery lasts longer. I have spoken to Samsung regarding this situation and they are sending me a new battery but im just wondering why i cant flash a custom rom without having to worry about the high display % and what can i do to fix it? do i have to give it a few days for the battery to settle on the rom or shall i just stay with the stock rom for now till i get my new battery and then try to flash? sorry for the long essay i just need to find out if any one else had the same problem as i really like to use a custom rom that my normal one.
THanks
I too find it very hard on the battery with all the custom roms that I have tried out. I tried, Villain, Cogniton, LeoMar, Batista, etc..etc..etc. I have in fact tried out all the ROMs out here. Tried even different combinations of Kernel, but all only lead to the frustration when it comes to battery life. I finally tried MIUI ROM and I can say that it is giving me very good battery life compared to other ROMs.
It is interesting to note from you that the STOCK ROM has given you better battery life. Could you please tell me how long did your battery last in Stock ROM and what are the Apps that were running in it?
Install Better Battery Stats, I don't think anything wrong with the battery.
See under Wakelocks what apps/processes are going in background and causing the drain. Then take necessary steps with TB Pro.
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to xdadeveloporian: thanks for your reply bk and sorry to hear that you had the same issues. like i said above i am very new to all this so apologies if i am replying with noobish comments. with wifi on and the normal widgets i had a battery life over a day. only charged it once and it still going. is that rom that you using now good?
and to ithappy sorry what do you mean by your reply i do not understand sorry. and do you guys think with a new battery it will fix my problems and i will be able to flash roms or do i have a faulty phone?
% is not important, what really matters is total time on for the display. Are you sure it isn't that the stock ROM burns more power in other areas, so the display is less? Or maybe the brightness is different? I'm not even sure how the display proportion of battery drain is apportioned - is there really a current sense integrator?
now that i have the stock rom with firmware 2.3.3 display is 30% followed by android os 15 - 19% which i think is normal into regards were i was on customs roms and the os was 15% and display 50% and over. brightness is basically at the lowest i can put it i am using touchwiz launcher and i only have two pages with widgets and nothing else. just a bit confusing thats all. i mean with custom roms the battery should be alot better not the other way round if you get me.
apologies if im not making any sense here. thanks again for all your replies it does help
tjoannou2001 said:
i mean with custom roms the battery should be alot better not the other way round if you get me.
apologies if im not making any sense here. thanks again for all your replies it does help
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I don't believe that stuff, why battery life would be better in a Custom ROM, because they added/modified some stuffs, nah. You can make a Stock ROM custom with some little modifications if you are rooted and have great apps like Root Explorer, Titanium Backup etc. I, for me, will never ever use a Custom ROM. But that's just me, don't take it any personally.
And about battery, don't see that how long are you getting with it, like- 1 day, 2 days, they don't make any sense, just keep an eye on the 'Screen On' time, if that is around or above 5 hours then you are very fine. And also keep checking that your Awake and Screen On bar is synchronized or not, if it is not then you must have something going on background, like- Latitude, Email exchange etc. which you can see under Better Battery Stats. And also, when not needed turn off, 3G, Packet Data, WiFi, Auto Sync, Background Sync and check how many apps are on Auto Sync, if not needed then modify it to Manual Sync.
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I don't believe that stuff, why battery life would be better in a Custom ROM, because they added/modified some stuffs, nah.
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Maybe they fixed some bugs - specifically a custom kernel might have improvements or bug fixes (since there is lots of work going on here from many companies making contributions). This takes time to filter through to the official ROMs.
Maybe they removed some of the stock apps which contribute (maybe only slightly) to power drain.
Maybe the small differences in the ROM mean that existing bugs are less likely to have an impact, so even not fixing the bug it seems to have gone away.
Custom ROMs are as likely to make things worse - but if many people are affected then it is likely that someone will track down the reason.
Look all i know is that as soon as i started flashing custom roms on my phone my battery life has been going down like hell. Checking battery stats the most thing that is taking up battery life is the display being as high as 80 even 90 percent. I am not a expert on android having had an iphone all my life so when people say underclocking and other stuff its like new things to me so i do apologise for being such a noob. i do love my galaxy and i think its the best phone out there at the moment. all i need to know is if there is something that i can do to bring the display down and not to have it drain so much out of the battery..
Thanks again for everyone for replying
very niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
huh? has anyone else experience high display usage on their phones when checking battery stats?
is that from the android market i can get that app?
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is that from the android market i can get that app?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
4) and it's very very annoying... so much so that I sometimes (multiple times in a day, actually) wish to get back to Android 2.3.3, which I had before updating to Samsung's (India) version of Android 4.1.2 for my GS2.
What could be the problem? I rarely ever connect to WiFi (am always connected to GPRS/EDGE, but that has never been a problem in the last 2 years... the phone still used to get nearly a day of battery life) and the brightness is almost always at the lowest. I rarely use Bluetooth, GPS, etc. I don't even use Facebook and WhatsApp anymore, so the screen isn't used to the max. I've turned off all the Location Sharing settings for Google Maps and/or other apps (I use very few apps anyway, but have a bunch of them installed on the phone... none that execute in the background though | also not more than a couple new apps after my OS upgrade).
It's been nearly a week since upgrading the OS on my phone. Last night when I hit the bed at 1.15AM my time, the battery was at 100% (after charging). With no activity whatsoever in the night, the charge had dropped to 88% by 9.35AM. That's less than 8.5 hours of no use and 12% charge gone. That never was the case earlier.
Also, for each minute of using the phone with the screen on, I notice 1-1.5% drop in the battery. That is, to put it very very mildly, PATHETIC!!!
I don't know what to do. Would a "clean rom" install help? If so, what exactly is a "clean rom" install?
Or should I be doing something else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
P.S.: Please let me know if any other info is needed too. BIG BIG Thanks in advance to anyone reading this
5) Read about jb settings/issues.
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Hi OP,
I haven't been on the i9100 for that long, but have also been annoyed with short battery life. As have many others from what I read. A 12% drop over about 8 hours of sleep, I'm sorry to say, doesn't seem that bad actually for an SGS2 with stock jb 4.1.2 and stock battery.
Personally, I tried different lightweight ROMs that are known to spare your battery. The advice to turn off 3g and other core functions never made sense to me, as I want an operable phone, not some sort of deflated piece of junk.
After reading on xda I went through Slimbean , Liquidsmooth, and other ROMs to see if they would increase battery life.
My current ROM is NeatROM 4.8, which actually seemed to give better results. Please note that this is purely subjective, though, I have no fancy battery analyses to back up my statement.
What REALLY helped was getting a replacement battery.
I tried Qcell 1950 mAh batteries. Stay away from those. They are clearly not 1950 mAh. Now running with a genuine Samsung 2000 mAh which is worth every dime.
Now I imagine you would be frustrated having to buy a new battery just because you updated your firmware and I do understand. I never owned the SGS2 before jb, so my choice was simple I guess. That having been said, though, the 2000 mAh battery really turned the phone into a whole new sort of usable. It easily lasts through the day even with regular use.
Just my 2 cents.
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S2 battery life
jsiv said:
Hi OP,
I haven't been on the i9100 for that long, but have also been annoyed with short battery life. As have many others from what I read. A 12% drop over about 8 hours of sleep, I'm sorry to say, doesn't seem that bad actually for an SGS2 with stock jb 4.1.2 and stock battery.
Personally, I tried different lightweight ROMs that are known to spare your battery. The advice to turn off 3g and other core functions never made sense to me, as I want an operable phone, not some sort of deflated piece of junk.
After reading on xda I went through Slimbean , Liquidsmooth, and other ROMs to see if they would increase battery life.
My current ROM is NeatROM 4.8, which actually seemed to give better results. Please note that this is purely subjective, though, I have no fancy battery analyses to back up my statement.
What REALLY helped was getting a replacement battery.
I tried Qcell 1950 mAh batteries. Stay away from those. They are clearly not 1950 mAh. Now running with a genuine Samsung 2000 mAh which is worth every dime.
Now I imagine you would be frustrated having to buy a new battery just because you updated your firmware and I do understand. I never owned the SGS2 before jb, so my choice was simple I guess. That having been said, though, the 2000 mAh battery really turned the phone into a whole new sort of usable. It easily lasts through the day even with regular use.
Just my 2 cents.
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yea.. u said it...even i have tried several custom roms ( NeatRom, WanamLite,RR etc) all give 15-19 Hrs max.. and this also by tweaking all the settings..
S2 is a undoubted beast, but the cost in terms of battery is very hight..my previous Android Motorola Defy was a Mammoth in itself..huge custom fanbase and loads of ROMS + Awsome battery.
Any ways i got no regretts for having a S2..but battery s a lil concern..
Currently am on Asnet MIUI V5 and its going good..fast, responsive, smooth and decent battery of 18 hours avg..
@jsiv - i wanted to ask u a question.. which country u hail from ?? because the stock 2000 mah battery is not available in India, my region.
Cheers:angel:
Do you calibrate battery after every ROM change?
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5) Read about jb settings/issues.
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Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
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Do you calibrate battery after every ROM change?
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What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
I live in Denmark. I ordered it off Ebay, but I see now that the UK shop I got it from doesn't ship to India.
You searched Ebay for "Samsung genuine 2000 mAh battery" or similar?
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Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
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Cyanogenmod roms are very fast ROM they are good as hell
Ur problem is genuine go to the playstore and download battery calibration app and follow the instructions in the app charge or battery up to 100 % and caliberate the battery u should have made an nandroid backup before upgrading
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theultimate1 said:
Can you please point me in the "settings" direction? I think I'm doing all things right, going real low on app usage, sync-ing of apps, screen settings, etc.
What exactly is battery calibration here? Please pardon my ignorance. I did a full charge when my phone hit got switched off the day after upgrading the OS. Is there something else I must be doing here?
I've had this problem right after the upgrade. So, I don't think it's an issue with my battery per se. It could just be JB.
How good is the Cynaogen Mod ROM in terms of battery life?
Or would it be wiser to switch to Android 4.0/ ICS?
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Battery calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
This has to be done every time you do a ROM upgrade or change ROMs.
CM has excellent battery life when compared to other ROMs.
If you are switching over to ICS stay away from version 4.0.4 as it has EMMC brick bug.Any other version would be fine.
theultimate1 said:
4) and it's very very annoying... so much so that I sometimes (multiple times in a day, actually) wish to get back to Android 2.3.3, which I had before updating to Samsung's (India) version of Android 4.1.2 for my GS2.
What could be the problem? I rarely ever connect to WiFi (am always connected to GPRS/EDGE, but that has never been a problem in the last 2 years... the phone still used to get nearly a day of battery life) and the brightness is almost always at the lowest. I rarely use Bluetooth, GPS, etc. I don't even use Facebook and WhatsApp anymore, so the screen isn't used to the max. I've turned off all the Location Sharing settings for Google Maps and/or other apps (I use very few apps anyway, but have a bunch of them installed on the phone... none that execute in the background though | also not more than a couple new apps after my OS upgrade).
It's been nearly a week since upgrading the OS on my phone. Last night when I hit the bed at 1.15AM my time, the battery was at 100% (after charging). With no activity whatsoever in the night, the charge had dropped to 88% by 9.35AM. That's less than 8.5 hours of no use and 12% charge gone. That never was the case earlier.
Also, for each minute of using the phone with the screen on, I notice 1-1.5% drop in the battery. That is, to put it very very mildly, PATHETIC!!!
I don't know what to do. Would a "clean rom" install help? If so, what exactly is a "clean rom" install?
Or should I be doing something else?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
P.S.: Please let me know if any other info is needed too. BIG BIG Thanks in advance to anyone reading this
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As reported before, it seems that many official JB ROMS are not as optimized as other national versions and are battery hungry. It was suggested to upgrade to the French release (XEF).
vish91 said:
Battery calibration: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312273
This has to be done every time you do a ROM upgrade or change ROMs.
CM has excellent battery life when compared to other ROMs.
If you are switching over to ICS stay away from version 4.0.4 as it has EMMC brick bug.Any other version would be fine.
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I did this... and unfortunately, it did nothing in my case.
I went to the CM site, but I didn't find any stable build for SGS2. Is there a thread on this site I can refer to for the same?
Also, what's the best way to go about installing a different ROM? I have so many apps, sms messages, pics, mp3 files, 3gp files, etc. Sure I can take a back-up onto my SD card. But won't I lose all the apps once I flash the current Android installation and install a new ROM? Any article or video on YouTube that addresses these points? Please point me in the right direction. I practically don't use my phone even half as much as before and I'm having to charge it twice a day, as against once a day earlier.
Also, the rapid battery loss seems to be causing the phone to heat up a lot if I'm on a call longer than 15 minutes or having the screen on for 2-3 minutes straight.
theultimate1 said:
I did this... and unfortunately, it did nothing in my case.
I went to the CM site, but I didn't find any stable build for SGS2. Is there a thread on this site I can refer to for the same?
Also, what's the best way to go about installing a different ROM? I have so many apps, sms messages, pics, mp3 files, 3gp files, etc. Sure I can take a back-up onto my SD card. But won't I lose all the apps once I flash the current Android installation and install a new ROM? Any article or video on YouTube that addresses these points? Please point me in the right direction. I practically don't use my phone even half as much as before and I'm having to charge it twice a day, as against once a day earlier.
Also, the rapid battery loss seems to be causing the phone to heat up a lot if I'm on a call longer than 15 minutes or having the screen on for 2-3 minutes straight.
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There is no stable version of CM 10 on I9100 because of the some issues. You can flash one of the nightly builds.They might not be necessarily unstable.
No you wont be losing everything when you install a new ROM.You lose once you do a data wipe.It is suggested you wipe everything before you install a new ROM.
With a data wipe you'll lose the following - SMS,contacts,call logs,apps installed and respective data.
What you wont lose - Anything stored in the sdcard partition - Pictures, Videos, Music, Apk files and Anything stored on the Ext SD card.(unless you format them specifically)
Best solution is to use titanium backup app(You need root). This way you can backup your apps and resp. data,wipe data-install ROM,and restore the previous backup on the new ROM.
Tutorial : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972455
As far as the battery issue is concerned,do a clean ROM install through Odin.
Index of guides : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826497
at first: this is not a "whats the best rom" thread.
i have 2 very focused questions:
What are the idle times with those different roms?
Are there some Main feature differences?
Aktually im running cm11 m5 snapshot with smartassv2 Governor. its smooth but the battery life is kinda poor.
Im looking for a rom with long battery life. And i dont care about google now, talking to my phone(ok google) nor i need the special features from the standart samsung rom.
Would be realy helpfull if u can review to my questions. Greetings!
pls apologize my bad english.
1 each phone is different depending on what's installed and running.
2 read there threads or flash each ROM and find out that way. You forgot about aokp?
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1 each phone is different depending on what's installed and running.
2 read there threads or flash each ROM and find out that way. You forgot about aokp?
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2. thx for informing abaout aokp!
1. im asking for someone who did a test with the same phone and all roms. i dont ask for different situations, i sked fpr idle time and features!
Probably there is somebody out there who testet it and can present his results
twinko said:
2. thx for informing abaout aokp!
1. im asking for someone who did a test with the same phone and all roms. i dont ask for different situations, i sked fpr idle time and features!
Probably there is somebody out there who testet it and can present his results
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There are no definitive results, I have used both and I keep coming back to Omni due to the fact that on SlimKat music stutters like crazy when the screen is locked. Also, Omni updates are small enough to update often without having to download a complete update, to many users this a huge deal due to data limitations in certain countries. As for usage, idle time etc, like stated before, that depends entirely on what is installed on your device. Install a bunch of apps that need to constantly receive data updates and you will have battery drain and very little deep sleep. Where features are concerned, you kinda learn to live with limitations due to missing features on a specific rom. If you really want, you can most likely find an app that will bring a missing feature to a rom. I see a lot of people throwing their toys out the cot because one of the other does not have a specific feature implimented, yet the developers have done so with good reason, usually either performance or battery life.
With all said, there are many roms out there, Omni and SlimKat aren't the only players. It's difficult to compare roms nowadays because you are never quite sure if your kernel tweaking or custom kernel with it's hundreds of tweaks is the reason for a device not going into deep sleep either.
Give them all a try and decide for yourself, nandroid backups and apps like Titanium Backup makes it so easy.
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There are no definitive results, I have used both and I keep coming back to Omni due to the fact that on SlimKat music stutters like crazy when the screen is locked. Also, Omni updates are small enough to update often without having to download a complete update, to many users this a huge deal due to data limitations in certain countries. As for usage, idle time etc, like stated before, that depends entirely on what is installed on your device. Install a bunch of apps that need to constantly receive data updates and you will have battery drain and very little deep sleep. Where features are concerned, you kinda learn to live with limitations due to missing features on a specific rom. If you really want, you can most likely find an app that will bring a missing feature to a rom. I see a lot of people throwing their toys out the cot because one of the other does not have a specific feature implimented, yet the developers have done so with good reason, usually either performance or battery life.
With all said, there are many roms out there, Omni and SlimKat aren't the only players. It's difficult to compare roms nowadays because you are never quite sure if your kernel tweaking or custom kernel with it's hundreds of tweaks is the reason for a device not going into deep sleep either.
Give them all a try and decide for yourself, nandroid backups and apps like Titanium Backup makes it so easy.
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Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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Sure you can do what you stated but bear in mind how will you compare the battery life across roms..
There should be some standardized test... Like looping video playback or some other method which does not change based on you usage habits..
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Pa is another you're missing from you're list of developed roms. What you could do is test video playback, calls incoming/outgoing,one game of choice "high end battery draining game" and compere them all. As for the kernel tuning.. Read about what really happens and you will fine not a lot does happen with UV/uc .
twinko said:
Thx for your long, interessting and helping text!
im missing only 1 thing. if someone flashes all roms, doesnt install any apps. Only new rom and full wipe before, restart and tracks the time the phone has battery. Dont u think this is a possibility to compare the roms battery usage? i think there is no one who does this, but i probably will try this and put down a little table here. so people like me are able to see the rom with the best battery efficiency. so if they decide this rom has not enough performance, they can switch to "battery efficiency Number 2" and so on.
greetings
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You can compare but you have to use that phone for more days not like just one and you have to full charge and then discharge 2 or 3 times till the phone make the correct battery stats. So i think you can test but better with daily use or get an app that drains battey faster well i think this may work
Hey guys. Just saw this article stating that the G3 has less battery life with lollipop: http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...alaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-nexus-5-lg-g3-results.htm
Are you guys running LP seeing a drop in battery like the article??
Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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I get at least the same if not better battery use, for me typically 80+ hours before charging, my record, 124 hours.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
I dont much difference until i tryed to talk on the phone browse facebook or the internet at the same time im stock lollipop
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Im not on stock but I am on Lollipop and the battery life for me has been about the same. I feel like Google really dropped the ball with Lollipop as far as battery life is concerned... like they were talking up project volta and how it was supposed to make battery life 36% better on lollipop for certain devices. Yet most devices seem to be struggling to keep the battery life they had before the lollipop update. I know there is a lot of factors and development isn't necessarily going to be perfect with such a new release but still...
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery.
Android apps are a different beast from your normal PC Windows application/program. They should not run in the background if minimized/when a user switches out. They usually go into a suspended mode so that they are not consuming resources. Out of the box, when an app is written, all of that handling is set up automatically. However, it can be circumvented due to someone not understanding the Android app life-cycle, or they know it and don't care, and just do poor programming. Either way can result in an app that misbehaves and drains the battery, as well as consuming resources (memory, CPU, etc). That also leads to battery drain.
So, I think part of this is Google, but I also believe that most of it is due to apps that are not optimized for Lollipop. I would like to see, or know, if these tests were run on straight stock with NO user downloaded apps. That would give us a clearer picture as to whether or not LP truly does gain better battery life for certain devices (I read that as newer devices).
No battery life difference for me.
Only difference I've noticed would be the stock LP gives better battery life than AOSP
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One thing everyone must remember. Not all apps have been upgraded to utilize any new programming APIs, etc based on Lollipop. Lollipop under the hood is a different environment. No longer is Dalvik around. It's now ART. Some apps still do things that are only available under Dalvik, hence they do not work under LP.
Also, APIs go out of date, also known as deprecated, as OS'es mature. Apps that continue to use old, out-dated API calls, or were improperly programmed from the beginning but could get away with it in older versions of the Android OS, are now showing their issues. This can result in either the app not working at all, or the app could drain the battery..
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Yeah I keep forgetting about the out of date API's but I practically use only Google Apps, I pretty much have everything I need on Google's platform. I only have a handful of apps that aren't google but I rarely use them. Still haven't noticed a change in battery. Not that the battery is bad per say my battery is actually pretty good especially compared to my S3 back in the day. Ive just been seeing other people complain in different forums. But you're right they are probably not using fully optimized apps for lollipop if they are having battery issues.
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good god man. how are you getting 80 hrs? is it on standby the entire time??
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My wife and I aren't that popular, so we don't talk on the phone much. She does use hers a LOT for games. When we got our G3s, I picked up a Verizon LG G Tab 8.3 VK810.4G as well, so now I spare my phone battery a lot for music in the car, GPS, some gaming and quite a bit of TapaTalk or other web browsing. About the only time I do any of those on my phone is when I'm at work killing time sitting on the toilet, or waiting for my lunch to heat up in the microwave.
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
corz123 said:
gosh one of the main reason i was going to upgrade to LP and reading this it doesn't seem worthwhile anymore. are there any reasons to upgrade to LP other than maybe material design? it seems sort to just be a ui makeover now...
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ART instead of Dalvik. It's much smoother now.
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Another thing to do is give it a few days after upgrading. At first, you might see poorer battery life but give it a few days and it might stabilize after that and you might see better battery life.
Also, once you've done this, start monitoring the battery section to see which apps are consuming the most battery life. This should give you an idea as to what is going on. That can help you pin point better misbehaving apps.
Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
Just some helpful hints that I've observed with this phone. I used to use Greenify, but I have found that I can get just about the same battery life without it as I did with it (at least on this phone), so I've since removed it. But, it's still an option to look at it, and it doesn't require root any more, which is nice for those that don't wish to root. And it has helped me in the past with other phones. I just haven't found that it helps that much with this phone.
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Also, I use the Snap Dragon Battery Guru app. That can also help pinpoint apps that might not be behaving correctly, plus it can do some managing of things to help preserve battery life. Not sure how much it helps, but it hasn't hurt, so I continue to use it.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Note that stock LG Lollipop builds 23A & 23B result in the SnapDragon Battery Guru app claiming it's incompatible when you go to it's Play Store page, although I haven't tried sideloading/restoring it from Titanium Backup.
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Ahh. Since I haven't upgrade to LP (still on stock and happy as a clam), this is good to know.
Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
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Battery life does not change whatsoever. The display is always the culprit. Can get 5hrs of screen time sometimes 6 per stock battery.
Sent from my LG-VS985 adorned w/ Illusion ROM
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Which is why I believe, as I stated earlier, this points to misbehaving apps that are not "tuned" correctly for LP. It's always better to just wipe clean (FDR) and then start restoring apps one by one to see what might be causing it. But also, give it a few days to settle down too.
I'm still waiting for the "official" release and then, will wait to see if either root can carry forward or else, the latest root still works on the official release.
T-Mobile users can now upgrade via the software tool on their Windows machines (not available as an OTA yet for them). Seeing how the G2 is getting it already, I have to imagine the G3 is not far behind. I'd much rather they just give us 5.1 to fix the memory leak.
I have noticed much better battery life on 23B Lollipop. I'm not rooted or anything, but for example I can listen to Audible for my daily drive into work that takes me 1.5 hours and the battery will only drop to 99%. I got 23B following another thread here, but my wife got a replacement G3 and it offered the update to 23b before the SIM card or SD card had been put in the phone. My son has a G2 that got the official Lollipop and it actually required two updates to get there. 1 just installed some system prereqs.
I'm in stock 23c and battery life is the same as it was under kk which for me is a good thing as I got excellent battery life under 12b. I'm not rooted because I want to wait and see if/when another ota comes out to fix the Wi-Fi sync issue.
I just finally updated to 23c. Seems wifi works fine for me thus far. I'll see how battery life is tomorrow after a full charge /discharge. Everything seems pretty snappy so far. I didn't even do a factory reset. Hopefully I won't have too.
Hello everybody,
about two months ago, I had an issue with my installed ROM on my Redmi Note 2 Prime (I think it was this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-2/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3288916 ). I decided to try out another ROM so I installled Bule's Mokee ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/red...nt/rom-cm-12-1-mokee-bule-mokee-blue-t3328382 ). After a few days with this ROM I recognized a big battery drain while screen off so I installed BetterBatteryStats to get some more informations. It told me that about 50-75% of the time my CPU was running at 800mhz instead of deepsleep (at a normal day with about 1-2h of Screen-On-Time). It didn't look to me like something is creating a wakelock though (but maybe I am just unable to see this). I tried the next ROM: Daniel Pinto's CM12.1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-2/development/rom-unofficial-t3310551) and again the same issue! I tried a full wipe of my internal storage, did not install xposed and did not install any titanium backup. The battery drain didn't go away. So i flashed another ROM: SlimMIUI V7.1.3.0 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-2/development/rom-slimmiui-dev-stable-t3296594 ) and suddenly there was no more screen off battery drain! This went well for about three weeks and now I am facing the old problem again! Please tell me what I am doing wrong since I don't believe it's a ROM-related issue.
I installed these apps (according to MIUI):
9gag
AdAway
Android System WebView
Antutu 3DBench
Antutu Benchmark
AquaMail
BetterBatteryStats
BikeComputer
Burning Series
Chrome
DB Navigator
Dropbox
ES Datei Explorer
Google Play Store
Google Play-Dienste
Google-Tastatur
Greenify (wasn't installed before SlimMIUI)
GuitarTuna
Hacker's Keyboard
Hearthstone
irplus
Maps
Messenger
MX Player
mydealz
No-Frills CPU Control
Nova Launcher
Open Camera
PaderSprinter
QuickPic
scondoo
SleepTimer
Spotify
SuperSU
Telegram
TeslaUnread
Titanium Backup
Twitch
Unified Remote Control
Wakelock Detector Free
WhatsApp
Youtube
What I have tried so far:
- changing ROM (clean flash)
- not installing xposed
- not using old backups
- changing the battery
- using airplane mode
Also, I wonder why there are these gaps in the battery history since I didn't reboot yesterday...but these gaps don't appear every day.
Please help me to fix this really annoying problem and make my RN2 great again!
Thanks,
Kooneybert
The biggest drain comes from all the Xiaomi bloat. Read this thread for details on how to reduce the bloat. In my experience, the second main culprit is WhatsApp. I've had to stop it from giving sound notifications (or even vibrating) when messages come in. Now, I have between 90%-95% deep sleep on idle. Basically, anything that turns on audio could be a problem, because sometimes audio doesn't go off afterwards.
You might want to try GSAM Battery Monitor for more information about what is eating up your battery.
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The biggest drain comes from all the Xiaomi bloat. Read this thread for details on how to reduce the bloat. In my experience, the second main culprit is WhatsApp. I've had to stop it from giving sound notifications (or even vibrating) when messages come in. Now, I have between 90%-95% deep sleep on idle. Basically, anything that turns on audio could be a problem, because sometimes audio doesn't go off afterwards.
You might want to try GSAM Battery Monitor for more information about what is eating up your battery.
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Thx for your reply! The problem is not MIUI-exclusive. CM 12.1 from Daniel Pinto is pretty slim but gave the same result (from the first day on).
Whatsapp can't be the only problem since all my friends use it and nobody have this problem (some of them also even have a RN2). Also, my phone is in silent mode almost all the time so no app is allowed to make noise or vibrate.
I just installed GSAM Battery Monitor but I don't know how to use the app/read the provided data. I could use some help there, too.
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Thx for your reply! The problem is not MIUI-exclusive. CM 12.1 from Daniel Pinto is pretty slim but gave the same result (from the first day on).
Whatsapp can't be the only problem since all my friends use it and nobody have this problem (some of them also even have a RN2). Also, my phone is in silent mode almost all the time so no app is allowed to make noise or vibrate.
I just installed GSAM Battery Monitor but I don't know how to use the app/read the provided data. I could use some help there, too.
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You can only be sure if you have a really skinny ROM whereby all the unnecessary Xiaomi stuff has been removed. There are all sorts of things going on in the background - including things embedded in the boot image.
There are also possibly optimisation issues with the kernel. All the ROMs seem to depend on the same binary kernels, since there is no GPL release of the kernel source code. You might want to try one of the skinny boot images by @jajk
As for GSAM, the best to learn is by trial and error (tip: tap on everything visible to see where it leads to, and what information it gives you).
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You can only be sure if you have a really skinny ROM whereby all the unnecessary Xiaomi stuff has been removed. There are all sorts of things going on in the background - including things embedded in the boot image.
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...on all three ROMs? Only for me? With this effect? On some days, it reduces my battery by 50-80%! Hard to believe it is not a bug. Also, SlimMIUI has reduced Xiaomi-Stuff, Daniel Pinto's CM 12.1 looked even more clean to me.
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There are also possibly optimisation issues with the kernel. All the ROMs seem to depend on the same binary kernels, since there is no GPL release of the kernel source code. You might want to try one of the skinny boot images by @jajk
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Aren't there different kernels out there for the RN2? Bule's Mokee-ROM uses a modified kernel e.g. Does every ROM come with a certain kernel or may it be applied from the ROM before? So maybe I am still using the kernel from Bule's Rom with my MIUI?
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As for GSAM, the best to learn is by trial and error (tip: tap on everything visible to see where it leads to, and what information it gives you).
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This will help me to read the information but it won't help to understand them, too. What do you think about this:
Kernels: You can't compile a custom kernel without the Xiaomi kernel source code. All you are left with is tinkering with ramdisk in the boot image
Screenshots: the one on the right shows what is sucking your battery; the biggest culprits are the Xiaomi kernel and Google ...
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Screenshots: the one on the right shows what is sucking your battery; the biggest culprits are the Xiaomi kernel and Google ...
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...is this normal? The Kernel is the biggest battery sucker on my tablet aswell (which still has great battery). What do you think about the 8,5h of wakelock time produced by the kernel? If this is the problem, what can I do to solve it?
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...is this normal? The Kernel is the biggest battery sucker on my tablet aswell (which still has great battery). What do you think about the 8,5h of wakelock time produced by the kernel? If this is the problem, what can I do to solve it?
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A "screen awake" of approximately 50% seems to me to be highly excessive (at least, if the phone was mostly idle). In nearly 12 hours, I have a screen awake of 55 minutes - so 8 hours in 15 hours seems strange. How exactly were you using your phone during this 15 hour period?
Perhaps the custom boot images by @jajk might help (see the first link in http://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-2/general/roll-skinny-miui-t3309873). I am currently on v714-15 of the custom boot image.
Sounds like you may be having issues similar to what I was dealing with not too long ago, but my 'solution' was to install Bule's Mokee (still don't know why this ROM worked where so many others failed). Daniel's CM 12.1 and Xiaomi.eu were both giving me significant drain with and without the screen on to the point where I was sometimes finishing the day with an hour and a half of screen on time and ~20% battery. Now I'm getting up to double that.
One thing I can recommend is using MiFlash/Fastboot to do a total reset from scratch. Didn't really work for me, but you may be different.
Other than that, although it's tedious, you may have to install 1-3 apps per day after a fresh install to see if your battery holds at first and then dies sometime after installing certain culprits. It takes forever, but at least this helped me when I moved to Mokee to make sure that it wasn't any of my 'vital' apps that were causing me issues.
Best of luck!
Funny thing that the Mokee-Rom did SOLVE your problem. In my eyes this Rom was the beginning of my problems.
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One thing I can recommend is using MiFlash/Fastboot to do a total reset from scratch. Didn't really work for me, but you may be different.
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What is the difference to using TWRP?
I will try the Mokee-Rom tomorrow. Since I never used MiFlash/Fastboot before I won't use it until you tell me that there is a difference compared to doing a full wipe with TWRP.
I tried flashing the Mokee-Rom again but the problems go on. I installed very few apps and the battery is still very bad. Today I had 18 minutes of SOT and though I lost 14% in a few hours. This time it was caused by Whatsapp:
It always seems that some apps just don't like to stop doing something but it's random which app is the problem.
I am totally running out of ideas so please help me guys!
I'm on Mokee and satisfied with battery, this rom have less problems than other (for me). First of all i have installed MobileRadioActiveFix with xposed, then SmartNetwork to turn off wifi while my screen is off. I've got few other things but right now i've got over 4h SOT so it is not bad score.
i have the same problem! it happens with flashing severals ROMs (mokee by bule?) and starts battery drain with all ROM, it never goes... is not the battery, the cable or the rom..... i dont know im disperate... the sot changed from 4-4.5 h to 2-2.5 h... with all ROM, please help us and sorry for my bad english
Well i had situation that my SOT suddenly got down but i was still on march rom. After update to latest version without wipe it is ok right now.
Have you tried with wiping all with internal memory? Maybe something is there still and that is making a problem.
Another thing that came to my mind: have you changed build.prop and have copy of it? If so, delete it. I had some problems becuase of that.
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Well i had situation that my SOT suddenly got down but i was still on march rom. After update to latest version without wipe it is ok right now.
Have you tried with wiping all with internal memory? Maybe something is there still and that is making a problem.
Another thing that came to my mind: have you changed build.prop and have copy of it? If so, delete it. I had some problems becuase of that.
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every rom i have flashed was a clean install (full wipe of internal) after latest miui update, when the phone shut down at 0%, i put off the battery for 10 min, after i put back and the phone was at 19%!! now is on charge... maybe the problem is solved.. i will post if it is solved (sorry for my bad english)
I had that problem with earlier phone and it drived me crazy. I was not able to find what was the cause unfortunatelly. Phone was given to service point to install branded rom (it was not available for public). Right now i do not have problems like that, if i have some i'm able to find solution somehow. Although what i wrote helped me when i saw SOT problem.
problem persists... is there a method/app to calibrate battery that works?
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problem persists... is there a method/app to calibrate battery that works?
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Not that I know of. I`m facing the same issues like you here.
You can try:
-discharging until the phone shuts off
-charge it in OFF mode until its full
-disconnect charger, put battery out and in again
-connect charger, charge it to 100% again...
repeat until it shows 100% when connecting the charger.
For some ppl this seems to work.
Please let me know if you find out something!
There are lots of ppl out there with exact the same issue!
BR
EDIT: Installed PSYROM V3 for testing purpose right now. Lets see how it does with skynet and a freshly calibrated Battery with the internal calibration tool of the rom. I`ll give feedback on monday.
Update to my issue:
-I did a full wipe (including internal memory)
-Installed PSY ROM V3.0 and Skynet
-Wiped cache/dalvic
-Startet the phone, installed my apps etc
-Charged it to 100%, waited 20 more minutes
-Did the Battery calibration with the internal calibration tool (everything is described in psy mans thread)
-Did a reboot
So far there is no Battery Drain, after the (long) reboot, wich took around 5-10min because miui is optimizing apps etc the phone came up with 97% and stayed there for almost an hour now.
I´ll give you guys feedback next week. Hopefully we get this sorted out.
You can try Angels & demons ROM v8.0 it is providing me with great battery life, so much better than stock or stable version of MIUI. I use Gsam battery monitor, and I have not faced that issue so far.