Is it possible to reload the stock OS, but keep Root?
On xda-developers website they have the Easy Root tutorial that does just what your asking.
Im keeping mine stock with root as well, I love Sense so I see no reason to change.
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If you follow the post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
You will be rooted and already be on the stock release. Thats what im on now.
Im not sure about the one click methods..
thanks for the reply guys... I rooted, and installed a ROM. I dig the ROM, but wanted to go back to stock ROM to do some tweaks (or attempt at least, lol) myself and see how I do.
If I am not mistaken a RUU will remove root, right? Just wondering if there is a
PG05IMG.zip that is stock, but won't remove root...
Stevez48 said:
thanks for the reply guys... I rooted, and installed a ROM. I dig the ROM, but wanted to go back to stock ROM to do some tweaks (or attempt at least, lol) myself and see how I do.
If I am not mistaken a RUU will remove root, right? Just wondering if there is a
PG05IMG.zip that is stock, but won't remove root...
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Did you make a backup after you gained root but before you installed the rom? If so just nand back to that and you will have stock root. If not I would suggest remove root and redoing it so you can make a backup, then go from there.
Jrocker23 said:
If you follow the post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
You will be rooted and already be on the stock release. Thats what im on now.
Im not sure about the one click methods..
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Isn't the RUU in that thread a downgrade? I understand that must be flashed to gain root?, my question is after root can I flash back to the latest RUU and keep root??
If not what is missing from the RUU in that thread vs. the latest RUU?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000448
it is stock and rooted and deodexed(for easy modding if you want in the future) comes in bloat free or bloat(and remove what you want)
flash it in clockwork recovery, this is what i use.
Cool...This i am going to try out. :-D Thanks!
smoody said:
Isn't the RUU in that thread a downgrade? I understand that must be flashed to gain root?, my question is after root can I flash back to the latest RUU and keep root??
If not what is missing from the RUU in that thread vs. the latest RUU?
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It downgrades to get the phone rooted but when you put the final zip for it to update, it updates to the stock release with root. Im running the .06 version and did nothing but root it.
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Soooo, I have been living a relatively blissful existence in the rooted world rocking cyanogenmod 7. For a couple of reasons I decided to try the latest "official" gb leak from HTC... And I've lost root...
So, my question is: what/where am I? My s-key is still off... I originally rooted using the revolutionary method, should I redo the root process?
Thanks in advance!
seamusz said:
Soooo, I have been living a relatively blissful existence in the rooted world rocking cyanogenmod 7. For a couple of reasons I decided to try the latest "official" gb leak from HTC... And I've lost root...
So, my question is: what/where am I? My s-key is still off... I originally rooted using the revolutionary method, should I redo the root process?
Thanks in advance!
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What exactly did you flash?
The latest gingerbread leak for the thunderbolt (from Android Police) is what I flashed.
"[Exclusive Download] Gingerbread Build 2.11.605.3 Full RUU And New Radio For HTC ThunderBolt"
I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
seamusz said:
The latest gingerbread leak for the thunderbolt (from Android Police) is what I flashed.
"[Exclusive Download] Gingerbread Build 2.11.605.3 Full RUU And New Radio For HTC ThunderBolt"
I'd post a link, but I'm not yet allowed.
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Well, when you flash an RUU (something you really shouldn't do unless you want a bone stock device) you're going to loose root because HTC doesn't root their ROMs.
You should be able to just reflash a new recovery (since the RUU probably wiped it) and superuser and be good. If not, reflash the recovery and try a rooted version of the ROM. And stay away from RUUs... If you'd rooted with ADB you'd be looking at a completely bone stock, S-On device right now.
If you want to try newest leak rooted and running very nicely load my Vigor lookalike or xdabolt in development section both based off 2.11.605.3 mine has a few more tweaks and custom kernel his is more stock if you want that with HTC kernel.
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"If i helped you please thank me"
Since you still have S-off you're still rooted. Download Superuser from the market. And clockworkmod comes with rom manager from the market if im not mistaken.
TDubKong said:
Since you still have S-off you're still rooted. Download Superuser from the market. And clockworkmod comes with rom manager from the market if im not mistaken.
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No. S-off is S-off, not root by any stretch of the imagination. Let's not confuse people by mixing terms that aren't interchangeable.
loonatik78 said:
No. S-off is S-off, not root by any stretch of the imagination. Let's not confuse people by mixing terms that aren't interchangeable.
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I was told that when i first rooted my phone that as long as i had S-Off that meant i still had root. Never saw anyone say any differently until just now when you did. I'll check it out. I am far from being a developer I just know what i been told and what I have found out on my own. So if I am wrong then ignore my previous post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838909
TDubKong said:
I was told that when i first rooted my phone that as long as i had S-Off that meant i still had root. Never saw anyone say any differently until just now when you did. I'll check it out. I am far from being a developer I just know what i been told and what I have found out on my own. So if I am wrong then ignore my previous post.
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S-off merely allows root permissions to persist beyond reboot. It primarily locks out writing to /data and /system, and without those, root is impossible. The difficulty in rooting a new device is finding a way around the bootloader security to achieve SU access so that exploits can be used to write a new bootloader that won't check for root and will allow writing to /system and /data. Once security is off, gaining SU status is fairly easy. It is entirely possible to have S-off and run a non-rooted ROM. I hope that clears up confusion. If I'm wrong somewhere in this, I hope someone corrects me.
So I am a somewhat new tech savvy root happy android user. I was so impatient to wait for ICS, that I flashed my phone yesterday. I tried to post in the thread for the new release, but being a new user, I was unable.
Anyway, is there any possible way to get root on this latest build? Con and some others were working on some stuff, according to what they posted in the thread, but it has been dead for a few days. I would like to S-Off, but apparently I can't go back to 3.14.605.05 to do it. Has anyone had any success achieving root on this new build? I did unlock hboot with htcdev again after flashing, but that is as far as I can go. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Flash recovery, install a rooted rom like mine or cleanrom for example, then do S-OFF. Hboot hasn't changed so they haven't patched S-OFF
Ok
I thought the roms were slaves to firmware in which they were created, i.e. a 605.05 rom could not run on the 605.10 If so, I didn't see your 605.10 rom, could you direct me? I already have Amon Ra installed, so I am good there. Also, his original post with the S-Off toolkit said to only use on 605.05, and didn't know if it would work on 605.10, even if I could achieve root. Thanks in advance for all your help, I've found your replies to other users to be most helpful in untangling the web of android modding in my mind.
Also, one more questions. I made a nandroid backup before I upgraded to ICS. Is that backup essentially useless unless I get S-Off and go back to the firmware that I created that backup on?
Edit:
"This is a stock, rooted, debloated version of the new 3.14.605.10 leak. This is the only 3.14.605.10 based ROM with APM, Tweaks, Aroma Installer, and Aroma based Sense and De-Sense! It was also the first to have working root."
Sorry, was so busy reading everything else in the thread, I completely missed that. So I guess I need to install your Rom first, and still use the PH98IMG.zip because I am not S-Off? After that, I should have root and will be able to S-Off?
slimer110 said:
Edit:
"This is a stock, rooted, debloated version of the new 3.14.605.10 leak. This is the only 3.14.605.10 based ROM with APM, Tweaks, Aroma Installer, and Aroma based Sense and De-Sense! It was also the first to have working root."
Sorry, was so busy reading everything else in the thread, I completely missed that. So I guess I need to install your Rom first, and still use the PH98IMG.zip because I am not S-Off? After that, I should have root and will be able to S-Off?
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Also interested in this. I'm on stock rooted 3.14.605.05 because I was trying to get s off, which failed miserably.
Here is where I am confused
I had my Flyer 3G 32GB . S-OFF'd by Revolutionary when I was on GB
Then I had installed LeeDroid's HC rom and I was on HC, everything is fine till now.
Recently I wanted to go back to GB but I could not ( I got some HTC screens so I gave up) then I flashed GLOBATRON'S methods and I am on S-OFF, Rooted HC 3.55.x.x stock Rom from his thread.
Currently there is a new OTA for my 3.55.x.x ROM and I have the RUU file for the OTA.
After running the OTA RUU , now my Flyer is on HC 3.62.x.x but I can not root it. CWM method is not working on the Revolutionary site as this rom is HC , I manually flashed the CWM img thru fastboot but no go.
My question is how to root my Flyer again after flashing the RUU file of the OTA 3.62.x.x from rooted 3.55.x.x
I know that if I flash a rom like Leedroid's it will work, but instead I want to flash the Original OTA RUU and the root it somehow. There is NO instructions on how to do it for Flyer.
My question is how to flash the CWM and SU onto my new HC 3.62.x.x Rom
Can I somehow remove the ROM and RADIO of the already rooted 3.55.x.x by Globatron and replace with ROM and RADIO of 3.62.x.x ? If yes how to do it ?
Or what to do ?
Pls Help somebody
I Think you must: 1 Downgrade 2 S-Off and root
I think these two threads could help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428104
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358758
No.......
I have read these 2 forums many many times. My question is one step ahead of that thread. We all know how to root 3.55.x.x , I want to root 3.62.x.x
doublecheese said:
No.......
I have read these 2 forums many many times. My question is one step ahead of that thread. We all know how to root 3.55.x.x , I want to root 3.62.x.x
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Sorry, I can't help you, I know only these two tutorial...
sb3n2 said:
Sorry, I can't help you, I know only these two tutorial...
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I believe, since it is the ota, that you need to complete the steps of the tacoroot/ misc version method of downgrading from globatron and then flash the gb ruu for your device, I don't believe it matters which hboot you have for hc. Then use globatrons honeycomb s off ruu on top of that and bingo! Hope I helped
Sent from my AOKP ICS Flyer using xda app-developers app
doublecheese said:
Here is where I am confused
I had my Flyer 3G 32GB . S-OFF'd by Revolutionary when I was on GB
Then I had installed LeeDroid's HC rom and I was on HC, everything is fine till now.
Recently I wanted to go back to GB but I could not ( I got some HTC screens so I gave up) then I flashed GLOBATRON'S methods and I am on S-OFF, Rooted HC 3.55.x.x stock Rom from his thread.
Currently there is a new OTA for my 3.55.x.x ROM and I have the RUU file for the OTA.
After running the OTA RUU , now my Flyer is on HC 3.62.x.x but I can not root it. CWM method is not working on the Revolutionary site as this rom is HC , I manually flashed the CWM img thru fastboot but no go.
My question is how to root my Flyer again after flashing the RUU file of the OTA 3.62.x.x from rooted 3.55.x.x
I know that if I flash a rom like Leedroid's it will work, but instead I want to flash the Original OTA RUU and the root it somehow. There is NO instructions on how to do it for Flyer.
My question is how to flash the CWM and SU onto my new HC 3.62.x.x Rom
Can I somehow remove the ROM and RADIO of the already rooted 3.55.x.x by Globatron and replace with ROM and RADIO of 3.62.x.x ? If yes how to do it ?
Or what to do ?
Pls Help somebody
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I believe you would require someone to make you a stock Rooted ROM that can be flashed via CWM
But why do you not want to use of the custom ~ROMs that are already on the market ?
shirtlessrabbit4 said:
I believe, since it is the ota, that you need to complete the steps of the tacoroot/ misc version method of downgrading from globatron and then flash the gb ruu for your device, I don't believe it matters which hboot you have for hc. Then use globatrons honeycomb s off ruu on top of that and bingo! Hope I helped
Sent from my AOKP ICS Flyer using xda app-developers app
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I am on Globatron's HC 3.55 Stock Rom now, all I want is, I want to flash the stock HC 3.62.x.x and root it afterwards some how !!!!
ioiwillioi said:
I believe you would require someone to make you a stock Rooted ROM that can be flashed via CWM
But why do you not want to use of the custom ~ROMs that are already on the market ?
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I already used some of them but I wasnt happy with the battery drainage.
I was on Leedroid and battery drain was fast somehow, currently I am on the rooted stock 3.55 and my battery is 80% since I took it off the charge this morning at 8.00am
I used it full time for 1 hours when I was going to work in my car. Normally with Leedroid I could never get 80% at this time since I do regular things with my flyer every work day , such as check my e-mails, facebook, twitter when I am on the 1 hour way to work.
doublecheese said:
I already used some of them but I wasnt happy with the battery drainage.
I was on Leedroid and battery drain was fast somehow, currently I am on the rooted stock 3.55 and my battery is 80% since I took it off the charge this morning at 8.00am
I used it full time for 1 hours when I was going to work in my car. Normally with Leedroid I could never get 80% at this time since I do regular things with my flyer every work day , such as check my e-mails, facebook, twitter when I am on the 1 hour way to work.
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OK, do you have a copy of the RUU for the version you want ? ?
If you do i will download it and then have a go at doing this for you
ioiwillioi said:
OK, do you have a copy of the RUU for the version you want ? ?
If you do i will download it and then have a go at doing this for you
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Here is the LINK of the RUU of the OTA
Now I am S-OFF by Revolutionary , and rooted by Globatron's HC 3.55.X.X from this link
This is the info about it :
Instructions Part 2
The large download is a stock HoneyComb 3.55.405.1 for 3G and 3.55.1114.31 for WIFI with the following changes:
Rooted
Busybox
Secure flag turned off on the boot image
Stock recovery replaced by CWM
My Android knowledge tells me , if I replace the ROM.ZIP and RADIO.ZIP of that rom with the pnes from the latest RUU , it can work.
But if it is something else, I wouldn't know it anyway
Quick Note
I have not had any reports of battery drainage on my ROM, its listed as Senseless 4.1.0 in the threads, maybe give that a go ?
ioiwillioi said:
I have not had any reports of battery drainage on my ROM, its listed as Senseless 4.1.0 in the threads, maybe give that a go ?
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As it is SENSELESS , I did not try it, 'cause I like the SENSE
doublecheese said:
As it is SENSELESS , I did not try it, 'cause I like the SENSE
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In that case ld try virtuos rom its fast and reliable give that a go first im working on this still as well i just think vietuous rom would be good for you to try
Anybody ? I am willing to pay for a solution !!!
doublecheese said:
Here is the LINK of the RUU of the OTA
Now I am S-OFF by Revolutionary , and rooted by Globatron's HC 3.55.X.X from this link
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Here is a link to a stock ROM which you can flash in recovery that has been pulled from the 3.62.468.1 RUU with root permissions added. Just make sure you take the usual precautions and nandroid backup your device first. If you are fully S-OFF this should work fine.
stock_3.62.468.1_root.zip
MD5: b0b714b280d573965aa8fbecb9da604d
I don't know what the differences are between the ROM I'm using so far and this one, but I'll give it a spin (HTC won't release an update if it didn't fix/add something )
pravus_nephilim said:
Here is a link to a stock ROM which you can flash in recovery that has been pulled from the 3.62.468.1 RUU with root permissions added. Just make sure you take the usual precautions and nandroid backup your device first. If you are fully S-OFF this should work fine.
stock_3.62.468.1_root.zip
MD5: b0b714b280d573965aa8fbecb9da604d
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Hi thanks, let me try it out now I will report the outcome
Yucko said:
I don't know what the differences are between the ROM I'm using so far and this one, but I'll give it a spin (HTC won't release an update if it didn't fix/add something )
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As far as I know , this rom has English and Turkish as the main languages.
You might need Morelocale2 from Market to add more locations such as Netherlands and etc.
pravus_nephilim said:
Here is a link to a stock ROM which you can flash in recovery that has been pulled from the 3.62.468.1 RUU with root permissions added. Just make sure you take the usual precautions and nandroid backup your device first. If you are fully S-OFF this should work fine.
stock_3.62.468.1_root.zip
MD5: b0b714b280d573965aa8fbecb9da604d
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Ok, it is working fine. Thank you very much. It's really appreciated.
Now, what can I do for you ? Remember I said I was willing to pay for it
doublecheese said:
Ok, it is working fine. Thank you very much. It's really appreciated.
Now, what can I do for you ? Remember I said I was willing to pay for it
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You can do absolutely nothing! :good: Just glad to help.
Here's a link to the radio.img from the 3.62.468.1 RUU if you wanted it. You can flash it to your Flyer in fastboot using;
Code:
fastboot flash radio radio.img
fastboot erase cache
fastboot reboot
If for some reason something doesn't work have globatron's RUU ready at hand.
Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.07_M
MD5: 6d2479b49d4ace9ae46f352f42401dbb (for the radio.img not radio.zip)
Hi guys,
I'm getting a little bit confused about the things I need to do, hopefully somebody can clarify that for me.
I'm on CleanROM GBE 1.7.5, rooted, S-ON.
Is there a way for me to upgrade to ICS (today's OTA) and remain rooted?
If this path is not available right now, is it going to be available some time later?
What is the small 7MB update Verizon is pushing before ICS OTA? How do I install it while being on CleanROM GBE? Do I even need it now, or it will be automatically included into ICS ROM I'm going to install at some point?
Thanks!
hippopo said:
Hi guys,
I'm getting a little bit confused about the things I need to do, hopefully somebody can clarify that for me.
I'm on CleanROM GBE 1.7.5, rooted, S-ON.
Is there a way for me to upgrade to ICS (today's OTA) and remain rooted?
If this path is not available right now, is it going to be available some time later?
What is the small 7MB update Verizon is pushing before ICS OTA? How do I install it while being on CleanROM GBE? Do I even need it now, or it will be automatically included into ICS ROM I'm going to install at some point?
Thanks!
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yeah. run the GB ruu. then check for update. then unlock. then flash amon ra, then root or flash a rom like conrom if you want stock rooted with some tweaks
hippopo said:
Hi guys,
I'm getting a little bit confused about the things I need to do, hopefully somebody can clarify that for me.
I'm on CleanROM GBE 1.7.5, rooted, S-ON.
Is there a way for me to upgrade to ICS (today's OTA) and remain rooted?
If this path is not available right now, is it going to be available some time later?
What is the small 7MB update Verizon is pushing before ICS OTA? How do I install it while being on CleanROM GBE? Do I even need it now, or it will be automatically included into ICS ROM I'm going to install at some point?
Thanks!
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EDIT: yeah what antp said, too.
There is already a rooted rom that is said to be based on the ruu in the dev section. Sooner or later though you'll want to get ICS firmware. That is best done by running the RUU (IMHO). You must be locked or s-off to do that and you'll have to reflash AMonRA. Run the su command thing in Amon...You should have root back after that.
antp121 said:
yeah. run the GB ruu. then check for update. then unlock. then flash amon ra, then root or flash a rom like conrom if you want stock rooted with some tweaks
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Should I relock before installing GB RUU ?
hippopo said:
Should I relock before installing GB RUU ?
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you have to or else it wont work
I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
braveally said:
I'm just learning that there is a new OTA. Whatever the case, I have not received it yet but am curious as to how I should handle it. This phone still confuses me a bit when it comes to unlocking etc.
Currently I am S-On, Rooted and running Shrike's PAC-Man rom. I kinda been lazy about staying up to date with everything and just got in my routine of flashing new releases.
Now i'm reading about this update and new hboot versions and wondering what I should be doing now. Should I accept the update in my current status or should I be doing something else to update? What about my hboot version, i'm still at 2.25. Should I be updating that myself or just take the OTA to handle it. My apologies if this is a redundant question.
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First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
synisterwolf said:
First, the updated wont be pushed to you because you aren't on a sense rom, and i think the AOSP has the OTAkill.apk but i would need to look for it.
Second, the update is a good thing. not only does it have a new hboot but it has new radios, firmware and other goodies for the phone.
if you were to do the update, i wouldnt wait for VZW to push it. there is a zip that is in the development forum that you may flash to get the benefits of the update.
if you go down this route it will make the phone 100% stock. You would have to do the dev unlock with token and flash a recovery to get back to root status.
if you were to do this you also need to back up internal sd card just in case.
EDIT: Here are the steps you would take if you wanted to update the phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40831457&postcount=59
credit goes to brenuga give him all the thanks you can.
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Thanks and thank you brenuga. That clears things up for me.
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
sk8bert12 said:
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
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Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
sk8bert12 said:
Is there a better S-Off method? In S-Off and don't want to lose root again and have to lock the bootloader
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
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You can be S-OFF and still get the OTA, you just have to be pure stock, or you can flash the files in the thread which Flyhalf posted below.
On my last Rezound, I flashed the updated hboot and radios while already S-OFF, rooted and running Nils' ROM. On my current ROM, I got the OTA downloaded while still pure stock, then unlocked bootloader, flashed Amon Ra, rooted, then got S-OFF. Obviously, if there are any subsequent OTA's, I'll have to wait for a flashable.
Flyhalf205 said:
Flash this in HBOOT. Only will work for s-off people
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40767819&postcount=33
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Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
DigiDave said:
Thanks for the link/post. But what does this exactly do to an S-Off Rezound? Will this update/install just the HBOOT/Radios?
I'm on Ineffabilis Deus v1.2 ICS 4.0.3. I believe this might have been from the leaked global ruu.
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That was from the Global Leak. But the zip will just update firmware such as hboot and radio and few other stuff
I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
rsage said:
I'm s-off. If I flash the latest RUU (whatever it is), then get the new global OTA update, I will retain my s-off-ness, correct? I'll just have to re-root and flash a recovery?
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No zip file of any kind will get you back to s-on. you must use fastboot to write to the secure flag. FYI