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My phone apparently hates me ... but I can't figure out where the hell I'm going wrong.
I had 1.57 on my phone, rooted. I did the OTA update to 1.83. Then I ran Gingerbreak. After rooting, I put Greyblur on my phone, so I thought I had root access since SystemRestore ran.
I now have root, theoretically ... but I can't see half the files that I used to be able to (when I mount /system as r/w I can't write to it ...). [edit]Also, I can't "adb shell mount" ... I can push/pull files from the /system directory, but I can't edit them directly either through RootExplorer or "adb shell; $su" etc.[/edit]
I can't see user data in my files; it looks like TitaniumBackup can, since it's creating backup files, but I don't trust that it's actually getting all my user data.
I want to redo my phone from scratch, but I'm worried I won't be able to actually save all my user data/databases/etc from programs ... things that say they save to the sdcard on this seem to save to /mnt/sdcard on the Atrix (not sdcard-ext)... which is actually the internal memory of the phone, not the removable sdcard (AFAICT).
Any chance anyone can help with this? Or do I have to just try to back up what I can, reflash to 1.26, root, "beforeupdate", update to 1.57, "after update", 1.83, gingerbreak, and hope for the best?
Any help is appreciated. Very valuable help will be rewarded with beer donations, etc.
Thanks in advance.
ViperFUD said:
things that say they save to the sdcard on this seem to save to /mnt/sdcard on the Atrix (not sdcard-ext)... which is actually the internal memory of the phone, not the removable sdcard (AFAICT).
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This question is being asked allot lately. You kind of answered it yourself in a literal way: As far as your phone is concerned, you are transferring the files to sd. Your not using the apps2extsd app (because it doesn't exist afaik). I know thats only one part of your question, hope you get the answers you need.
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This question is being asked allot lately. You kind of answered it yourself in a literal way: As far as your phone is concerned, you are transferring the files to sd. Your not using the apps2extsd app (because it doesn't exist afaik). I know thats only one part of your question, hope you get the answers you need.
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Right ... and the point of this is that if I remove my (physical) SD Card to preserve my files, it won't actually do anything because it's the INTERNAL memory that has my files/databases/etc.
Again, there's a bounty on solving this problem for me ... hopefully people look at this thread
ViperFUD said:
Right ... and the point of this is that if I remove my (physical) SD Card to preserve my files, it won't actually do anything because it's the INTERNAL memory that has my files/databases/etc.
Again, there's a bounty on solving this problem for me ... hopefully people look at this thread
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I think you missed the point. Apps2sd is not to "preserve" anything, but for phones lacking enough memory to install the apps users want. We are lucky with the Atrix. We will probably never fill it up to the point we cant install anymore apps, but other phones have that problem. This is the purpose of apps2sd. If you want preservation use TiBU. Again I know this was only part of your question and wish you luck in finding the solutions you need.
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I think you missed the point. Apps2sd is not to "preserve" anything, but for phones lacking enough memory to install the apps users want. We are lucky with the Atrix. We will probably never fill it up to the point we cant install anymore apps, but other phones have that problem. This is the purpose of apps2sd. If you want preservation use TiBU. Again I know this was only part of your question and wish you luck in finding the solutions you need.
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Yeah, I have/use TiBU (PRO) ... what I am not sure of is:
1. If I flash the 1.26 sbf to my phone, will the TiBU backups get deleted from my internal memory? Or do I need to save them to my PC first (will probably do this anyway).
2. If I later reinstall from my TiBU backups, will all my saved games, program databases, etc, also be imported back onto the phone?
3. Are there other files that I need that I'd want to back up, but I won't be able to because I don't really have root?
4. How can I be certain that I actually have root access, and not some half-assed root access that Moto/ATT let me have while hiding full system access?
5. Why can I no longer mount my /system folder as r/w, along with not being able to see /system/data?
That's all, I think.
Thanks.
Best,
Viper
ViperFUD said:
Yeah, I have/use TiBU (PRO) ... what I am not sure of is:
1. If I flash the 1.26 sbf to my phone, will the TiBU backups get deleted from my internal memory? Or do I need to save them to my PC first (will probably do this anyway).
2. If I later reinstall from my TiBU backups, will all my saved games, program databases, etc, also be imported back onto the phone?
3. Are there other files that I need that I'd want to back up, but I won't be able to because I don't really have root?
4. How can I be certain that I actually have root access, and not some half-assed root access that Moto/ATT let me have while hiding full system access?
5. Why can I no longer mount my /system folder as r/w, along with not being able to see /system/data?
That's all, I think.
Thanks.
Best,
Viper
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Back them up to your PC. SBF shouldn't clear your external/internal SD card, but most will wipe /data/ partition which contains all of the app settings and data.
They should be, yes.
Anything you can backup, you should. I'm not sure what you mean by you "don't really have root." Check for Superuser in your app drawer. If it's not there, install it. Gingerbreak/Gingerblur delete a LOT of stuff when you use them. I personally avoid them for this very reason.
There's no such thing as "half-assed root access." You either have it, or you don't. Make sure the su binary is in /system/bin and that you have Superuser.apk installed and listed in your app drawer.
What error messages is it giving you when you try?
Ririal said:
Back them up to your PC. SBF shouldn't clear your external/internal SD card, but most will wipe /data/ partition which contains all of the app settings and data.
They should be, yes.
Anything you can backup, you should. I'm not sure what you mean by you "don't really have root." Check for Superuser in your app drawer. If it's not there, install it. Gingerbreak/Gingerblur delete a LOT of stuff when you use them. I personally avoid them for this very reason.
There's no such thing as "half-assed root access." You either have it, or you don't. Make sure the su binary is in /system/bin and that you have Superuser.apk installed and listed in your app drawer.
What error messages is it giving you when you try?
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1. I planned to
2. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
3. I have Superuser, and TiBU and RootEx both think they have root.
4. See #3; however, I couldn't do some stuff I wanted to (like edit /system/etc/hosts. Also, i figured out why i couldn't find "/system/data/" ... because I'm an idiot and i should've been looking for /data/system/ !)
5. Well, now it's working. Very Strange. RootEx force closed on me, and when it reopened it's now working.
WTF man.
ViperFUD said:
1. I planned to
2. That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.
3. I have Superuser, and TiBU and RootEx both think they have root.
4. See #3; however, I couldn't do some stuff I wanted to (like edit /system/etc/hosts. Also, i figured out why i couldn't find "/system/data/" ... because I'm an idiot and i should've been looking for /data/system/ !)
5. Well, now it's working. Very Strange. RootEx force closed on me, and when it reopened it's now working.
WTF man.
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Sometimes TiBu and RootExplorer need to be restarted for root to take place. I'd say at this point (If you haven't already.), give your phone a reboot. That might smooth any other issues out.
Ririal said:
Sometimes TiBu and RootExplorer need to be restarted for root to take place. I'd say at this point (If you haven't already.), give your phone a reboot. That might smooth any other issues out.
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Thanks man.
I sent you a beer
I'm thinking about trying GladAtrix (ZOMG you made that) instead of GreyBlur, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose all my **** when I flashed back to 1.8.3.
Best,
Viper
ViperFUD said:
Thanks man.
I sent you a beer
I'm thinking about trying GladAtrix (ZOMG you made that) instead of GreyBlur, but I wanted to make sure I wouldn't lose all my **** when I flashed back to 1.8.3.
Best,
Viper
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Look for the service SBF for 1.83. There's two versions, one that wipes /data and one that doesn't. If you use the one that doesn't (I have SEVERAL times), you should be good to go.
Ririal said:
Look for the service SBF for 1.83. There's two versions, one that wipes /data and one that doesn't. If you use the one that doesn't (I have SEVERAL times), you should be good to go.
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Ririal,
Sorry to bug you again, but is this the SBF you are using? It was the only 1.8.3 sbf I could find ....
Thanks.
ViperFUD said:
Ririal,
Sorry to bug you again, but is this the SBF you are using? It was the only 1.8.3 sbf I could find ....
Thanks.
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I think that's the same one, but just to be safe use this one here: http://gititbit.ch/sbf7
EDIT: bookmark http://gitbrew.org/atrix has pretty much everything all in one place
i recently flashed rom to my 3d. i did a full wipe and everything but i was told my contacts wouldnt dissapear but theyre gone. also my sd card has 121 mb free but there is only 1 app on it? does that make any sense? thanks for your help.
Your contacts should have backed up to googles servers. Did you ever deselect that option on your previous ROM?
Can you explain the last part? What do you mean you have only one app?
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wizsenseisablur said:
i recently flashed rom to my 3d. i did a full wipe and everything but i was told my contacts wouldnt dissapear but theyre gone. also my sd card has 121 mb free but there is only 1 app on it? does that make any sense? thanks for your help.
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Your contacts should come back when you sign into your google account and let it sync. No idea about your sdcard.
i cant seem to find out why so much space is missing from my sd? could it be the actual rom itself? the only thing i have on there before using tb to get my apps back is adobe app.
and my contacts didnt come back even after sync.. is there anything i can do ?
wizsenseisablur said:
i cant seem to find out why so much space is missing from my sd? could it be the actual rom itself? the only thing i have on there before using tb to get my apps back is adobe app.
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I'm going to assume you are using the 8GB card. Umm, you don't have anything on it, like movies or music? Did you create a nand backup before flashing? Those can take up like 1GB of space. Do you use a lot of apps?
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and my contacts didnt come back even after sync.. is there anything i can do ?
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Did you log onto your Google account?
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nope nothing on it. and yes i did. about 3-4 times. no on the apps.
View the files on your SD card with a file manager. You should see what's on it.
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nope nothing on it. and yes i did. about 3-4 times. no on the apps.
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Wait, what three or four times? Log onto your google account four times or make a nand backup four times?
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Let me get this straight...
Your taking about your micro sd card right? Is it the 8GB one, or did you swap it?
You say you have nothing on it, but the ROM you downloaded right? Also you say you only have one app also.
Can you view in what's in your sd card?
I'm really trying to understand.
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nand backup 4 times. my google has nothing on it. how can i restore my contacts?
wizsenseisablur said:
nand backup 4 times. my google has nothing on it. how can i restore my contacts?
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You nand backed up four times? Then that can be the problem consuming all your space on the SD card. About the other one idk.
Did you ever uncheck the boxes in the privacy settings in your last ROM? If not, then I really don't have a sufficient answer for you.
I still can't see how nand backing up would take up all of the space, but with all the given information. Theres not much I can say.
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thanks for your help. can i undo what ive done regarding overdoing the nands?
wizsenseisablur said:
thanks for your help. can i undo what ive done regarding overdoing the nands?
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You can delete them. Or move them all to your computer to be safe. Just keep one handy, and restore back to it. You'll probably get your contacts back doing that.
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When you have your contacts back. Go to your Peoples app. Press the menu button, select import/export. Then your going to select export to sd card. Select the export to phone and google options. So next time if they go missing, you just import them.
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thanks you have been very helpful. one last thing please. lol. how do i go about deleting or moving some of them? =)
wizsenseisablur said:
thanks you have been very helpful. one last thing please. lol. how do i go about deleting or moving some of them? =)
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Do you know which folder they are in? If you do, then you just go to the folder and right click it. Select whatever option your going to do then voila! Your good to go.
Are you doing it by phone instead of using a computer? Just use astro file explorer and navigate to the folder. Long press it to bring up a list of options.
I assume you know how to move them to your pc right?
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i did a nan restore of my most recent backup then rebooted. my screen is stuck on the htc logo. i pulled battery twice. am i dumb or did something bad happen?
wizsenseisablur said:
i did a nan restore of my most recent backup then rebooted. my screen is stuck on the htc logo. i pulled battery twice. am i dumb or did something bad happen?
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Try doing a full wipe (factory reset) before restoring the nandroid backup. If you're using the latest version of TWRP, go to the advanced settings menu, and then choose format menu. Wipe cache, data, system, and boot. DO NOT WIPE SD CARD. Then try restoring one of your backups. Make sure you have your phone unplugged when restoring and rebooting (sometimes it can be problematic when plugged in). If that doesn't work, then try flashing a new rom from scratch.
The easiest way to delete your nand backups, or store them to your computer, is to plug your phone into the computer, and choose mount as disk drive. Then navigate into your sd card, and find the TWRP folder, then choose backups, then navigate into the next folder (labeled as your phone's serial number), then you'll see your backups, which are labeled with the date and time they were created. Delete the ones you don't need, or move them to your computer for safe keeping. That should free up a good amount of space on your sd card, as each backup ends up between 800-1500mb.
Hello!
I am a newbie to Android just migrated from a Symbian. I own a Samsung Ace, and also plan buying an Xperia Play.
When installing an application in symbian the phone asks if we want to save it in the memory card or the internal memory. How do we do this in Android phones and specifically (if it is different for every phone) in Ace and Play?
For example I installed talking tom cat 2 in Ace, the moment I opened it asked my permission to install another package, only once that was installed I was able to use the application. Then after sometime I uninstalled the app. using task manager. But the question is how do I get rid of the extra package and where has it been installed any ways.
There is no place where this information is available for a newbie.
Android at first seems a little confusing.
Also what is this ROM thing, tried to search it but didn't find anything?
Please reply soon.
Thanks.
Everything, go to settings>applications>manage applications. This should be uniform across android devices.
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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domnic79 said:
Normally downloaded data goes to sdcard/Android/data. Check in dis directory.
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He meant installed data.
consegregate said:
He meant installed data.
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Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
jeikumar said:
Like mentioned in the prev post it might either be in /sdcard/android/data or in the appropriate folder names under /sdcard
In your case, i think a folder named "talking tom" might be created under /sdcard
Your mishandled/broken files would be in /sdcard/LOST.DIR
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installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
consegregate said:
installed data goes to your system/data, what the hell are you talking about?! You mean if I take out my sd all apps mysteriously disappear?
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If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
jeikumar said:
If the app is installed in SD card then for sure it wont work when u remove the SD card.
When you uninstall an app the folders and files particular to that app in /system/data would get removed automatically and the files n folders on those in SD card needs to be removed manually.
Correct me if im wrong, Thanks.
PS: Im not in for any argument and happy to correct myself
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
Okay, I see the logic now. OP mentioned installing an additional package and that's probably not an app but just data, am I correct? Sorry for getting too heated up
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He meant installed data.
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You mean normally the applications we install like facebook, twitter, talking tom cat 2, angry birds etc. etc. go directly to the SD-Card ?????
I thought, in Androids, it goes to the internal memory.
Because a friend of mine said that the only reason people still opt for iphones instead of android is this; that you can't enjoy the use of an SD-Card.
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ur actually correct. any leftover on sdcard wont be remove by default when uninstalling particular app that created them. eg many games will download its data when running it for the first time, and that data will be placed on sdcard. furthermore that data wouldnt be deleted when we uninstall that particular game that creating it, it need to be removed/deleted manually. i think same goes in op case, that "talking tom" app download its data when on first run and put it in sdcard.
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Okay.
But my question is : Can I somehow install the application (like tom cat) directly in the Sd-Card in the first place. I am not worried about removing my card, because I have a 32 gb one.
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Hello!
Thanks for the reply.
But I don't think this is the ROM they are talking about on this website. The one you mentioned is Hardware. What they are discussing seems to be some type of software.
It's called read-only memory. It's like your xp in your computer, or windows 7, or Linux.
Edit: some applications cannot be installed into the sd card but with darktremor a2sd script it can make most apps migrate a portion of its space to the ext partition of the sd card. Do a search on google about a2sd. Also, installed data normally goes to /data/app which is internal storage. Certain apps may move their data to the .asec folder in the sd.
Im kinda new so here it goes... I recently been playing around with Xperia Active. I already rooted it and remove/replace some apk. So I'm wondering if i can make my installed apps to stick when I do a factory reset or maybe replace the supplier stock apps?
The only way to keep apps is after rooting, make backups of the whole app with data(using Titanium Backup) and after factory reset place them back.
I couldn't understand, what apps do you want to replace, so I can't answer to that.
Sorry bout that, I remove some bloat apps in the /system/app. Also remove some supplier apps in the /etc/product/applications, then replace it with some apps (i.e. ES File Explorer & Advanced Task Killer). just dumb thinking if it will install itself when factory reset.
got it, just need to place it on the /system/app
BTW, if you have different way I want to try it as well..
OFF Topic: can i make the backup(CWM) file into one ftf/rom file? how?
fncampoy said:
got it, just need to place it on the /system/app
BTW, if you have different way I want to try it as well..
OFF Topic: can i make the backup(CWM) file into one ftf/rom file? how?
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.ftf can only be made from Update Service files.
I want to get rid off as many folders and files that I can, from the Internal SDcard, without damaging my device.
How can I know which folders and files can I delete? Would it help if I screen shot my SDcard folders and files and upload the photos here?
Thanks
Just format via CWM...
And stop spamming - you have posted this in another section.
LenAsh said:
Just format via CWM...
And stop spamming - you have posted this in another section.
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I know but I've open it in the wrong fourm.
I don't want to delete every thing! I just want to the delete all the junk and unnecessary folders... This way I said that I can upload screenshots of my SDcard so you could tell me which ones I can get rid off.
Make backup of your personal data, backup of apps data that you are using in titanium backup for example (and copy it to pc...). format your card. Restore it. Should be good, huh?
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Can I just take the TB, CWN and Music folders and move them from the the PC back to the phone and ever think will work fine? and if so which other folders I absolutely nedd to keep?
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Can I just take the TB, CWN and Music folders and move them from the the PC back to the phone and ever think will work fine? and if so which other folders I absolutely nedd to keep?
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Yes, backup What you want to keep and format SD.
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