So I started following the Noob guide posted here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
I followed his first steps, I rooted the phone using the update.zip then I installed TitaniumBackup, Backed up all my files needed, Then I installed Rommanger and made a backup of the Rom...
My next step is to flash a ROM, I chose the Nero_Beta_3. But, before I attempt to flash, I was reading alot of people use Odin to backup there files on their computer instead of the phone just incase anything goes wrong. Can someone help me out with this please?
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Odin is used for flashing ROMs. It doesn't do backups or anything else.
Also, next time, you should really post this in the Q&A forum.
Sorry Will do! New to XDA, but i LOVE IT!
well i think you can dump your system using odin but i prefer to just use titanium backup and nandroid if its the same build i am flashing again.
Use titanium backup to do all of your user apps, do a backup of everything in rom manager when down plug phone into computer and look for 2 backup files related to those apps. Copy both to your computer just in case something goes wrong. After you flash you want to restore user apps in titanium, if you do system data you may run into problems. Oh and the pro version of titanium is very worth it.
Finally good luck and try and keep questions in proper section.
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So I have a custom ROM uploaded on my x10 but I see some others I would like to try. I have Titanium Backup but I am having trouble with it. When I switch the the new ROM will it keep all my apps or will it just keep the .apk so I can install them all again? I have a lot of apps so if there is a way it will keep them all installed as well as contacts that would be awesome. Any help would be awesome, thanks!
Use xrecovery to backup and restore and everything will stay the same.
I just tried that and noticed it leaves it just where i left off, awesome but now I am wondering if I install a new ROM will all my apps/data still be installed?
They will be wiped... but when you reflash your backup, they will be back...
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So I have a custom ROM uploaded on my x10 but I see some others I would like to try. I have Titanium Backup but I am having trouble with it. When I switch the the new ROM will it keep all my apps or will it just keep the .apk so I can install them all again? I have a lot of apps so if there is a way it will keep them all installed as well as contacts that would be awesome. Any help would be awesome, thanks!
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I assume what you want to do is flash a different ROM then re-install all your apps + data within that new ROM?? Titanium will easily allow you to do this, just click menu>batch>backup all user apps + system data. That will allow you to restore all your apps and data by running the batch restore after booting in the new ROM. Once you do that and verify your apps are working etc, I recommend backing up with xrecovery because that makes switching between ROMs a lot easier.
Hopefully that helps you out.
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I assume what you want to do is flash a different ROM then re-install all your apps + data within that new ROM?? Titanium will easily allow you to do this, just click menu>batch>backup all user apps + system data. That will allow you to restore all your apps and data by running the batch restore after booting in the new ROM. Once you do that and verify your apps are working etc, I recommend backing up with xrecovery because that makes switching between ROMs a lot easier.
Hopefully that helps you out.
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That is exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you very much for the help!
niqjones10 said:
That is exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you very much for the help!
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Be cautious though some apps will crash when restored from one Rom to another to be sure restore one at time, or just install the app I used my back up root free from market
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Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium would be used when you want to backup all of your apps+data, Twrp would be used when you want to back up EVERYTHING apps, messages, pics(on internal sd), basically everything lol. As for verizon sending a ota, I think it's highly unlikely that they can push a ota to our phones now I think the bootloader unlocking and rooting broke all of that. Especially if you run a custom Rom.
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JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium is backing up apps. So lets say you use CleanROM and you want to flash to a newer version cleanly. Use titanium to back up the apps and you will be able to restore them easily on the new rom.
Backing up via TWRP basically means you are backing up EVERYTHING in the rom. So lets use the previous example, uograding from one rom to another. You do a twrp back up and begin to flash the new rom. If anything screws up, you could just restore the twrp back up and everything would go back to normal, back exactly to how your phone was when you made the backup.
Edit: basically a back up in recovery is creating a safe point to come back to if anything goes wrong EVER with your device. There are things that this typenof back up cannot undo however.
Titanium is for apps and that's it. It helps free up space as well as making backups for apps incase on of your apps screws up.
EDIT 2: next time post this type of thing in Q&A and not in general
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Titanium Backup - Used to back up all of your apps and their data
TWRP - Used to back up the ENTIRE system. Meaning, if anything goes wrong, you can restore a past "save" of your system before the problem.
You can think of it as Titanium Backup would be like copying a MS Word document onto a flash drive and TWRP would be like taking a copy of your entire hard drive.
JRunner01 said:
Can someone help me understand when I should use one or the other. Also when is a good time to do it?, before a flash of a custom rom?
I recently performed the bootloader unlock procedure from Adam and after it completed I ran the twrp backup to my sd card. Does that mean I could restore to that backup should verizon send ota and revert the unlock?
Thanks!!!
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Titanium backup: for backing up apks and their datas, mms and calling history, bookmarks, alarm and wifi settings....i think that's about it. Because your apks keep updating every few days, you should make this backup right before you flash a new rom. Once you retrieve, you don't have to keep this too long.
TWRP backup(aka nandroid): this is just like a saved point when you play a video game. sometimes when you download something, it can alternate other settings and create a mess.....which then may cause your rom to malfunction. At this time, you can flash your nandroid.....it dumps every saved datas, cache, etc etc so that you can go back to your saved point.
Titanium back up- is a app that backs up applications and their data...also has the ability to freeze system apps and create back up .zips of the devices applications.
TWRP back up- is a custom recovery that allows the user to create a back up image... that image will restore the boot image, rom, kernel, data, and cache back to the point of when the back up was created.
It used to be that restoring titanium data from one rom to another was bad. Is this still a recommended no no?
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First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
JRunner01 said:
First thanks to everyone for the replies!!!
Sorry for posting in wrong section.
So I cant use titanium to backup my apps, then to be restored on a custom rom, since I am on what appears to be a stock / rooted rom from Adams unlock procedure? I would have to reinstall them from google / my apps.
My twrp backup would be useful if the custom rom I soon load goes bad any I need to get back to a good state, right?
Also as on reply said, no worries from ota since we are rooted and unlocked? You all agree?
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yes you can use titanium to back up your apps and restore them on a custom rom...just restore the apps without data. you have the rest correct.
I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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I always restore my user apps with data, I just don't do system apps.
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great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
droidstyle said:
great...but when switching between aosp and touchwiz this can cause apps to force close. the op said "custom rom" so i provided a blanket statement covering all bases.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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I agree that folks get into trouble because of what you posted in your last sentence. This is exactly why I do not recommend it because a new user 99% of the time wont know that. So I simply do not suggest it...now somebody more experienced like yourself is a different story.
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I restored all of my apps user that I used on JBSourcery from my Nexus to my Note II.
I think the main problem some people have with restoring their apps is that they're restoring system apps not just user apps. Sometimes what was a user app on one ROM is a system app on another.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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Disagree.
It won't always happen, but problems can and will happen restoring user data. I have seen it a million times and logcat shows it too. When there is a database conflict (the logcat shows this), the app force closes, and the only fix is to clear data for that app, which undoes what you restored. Might as well forgo the irritation and not restore it the first time.
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It has yet to happen to me.
The only time it came close was with better terminal emulator pro. I restored using titanium and it refused to work. Downloaded it from the play store, it worked fine. Then restored over that using titanium and it worked fine.
Anyone have any advice on creating the .zip? Is it even a possibility in TWRP? I used CWR for the longest and am a n00b with TWP. There are only 2 options when creating the update.zip: Edify (Android 1.6+, ClockworkMod 3+) and Amend (Android 1.5, ClockworkMod 2). So which is needed to flash in TWRP?
I'm not interested in creating a .zip of all my apps, just a .zip I can flash in recovery after clean wipe/flashing a new ROM. TIA guys
So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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So I get the fundumental difference between utilizing the 2 methods of backing up but what I don't understand is that if TWRP backup is like taking a snapshot or image of EVERYTHING, why is my backup folder created from a TWRP backup such a small size (2.4GB) when everything on my phone equals way more than that? Is it compressed? I don't remember selecting that option.
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It only gets /system, /data, and kernel if you don't change the options. It's not getting everything on SD card or internal storage unless you specify that option.
I deleted that via titanium backup and i made a backup of it. I want to recover the app back but i titanium just freezes when i do that. Can anyone help me get this app back on my phone?
Nandroid is your friend.
How does that help now?
Reflash the rom and learn from your mistake :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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How does that help now?
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Well.....MOST are smart enough to make a Nandroid Backup before changing anything. But if you need help then I'll need to know what Rom you we're using or if it was stock..
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Well.....MOST are smart enough to make a Nandroid Backup before changing anything. But if you need help then I'll need to know what Rom you we're using or if it was stock..
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Well im new to this stuff. The only thing i done to my phone was root it. I didn't know what nandroid was till i looked it up. My phone is stock besides the root.
Here is the phone.apk from the T-Mobile ICS ruu that I pulled from a nandroid I made before I did s-off. You can try to push it to system/app and set permissions to rw-r-r using root explorer or similar. Not sure of it will work or not. You may just want to titanium backup and restore to factor. Good luck
I assume you are on ICS, probably shouldnt use this if you are not
Rooted my gnote i717. I have superSU, ROM manager (clockwork mod?) (are they the same?) and titanium backup. If I want to get rid of the stock rom and put a new one on... Are those 3 apps that I have good enough? Or do I need another app? I did a batch back up with titanium backup. Now to put a new rom, I guess I press certain buttons, then get the new rom from the sd card with rom manager, then when my phone is turned back on, go back to titanium backup and restore everything? A little shaky about all of this, I just want to get it straight before I brick my phone. Thanks
Dblx327 said:
Rooted my gnote i717. I have superSU, ROM manager (clockwork mod?) (are they the same?) and titanium backup. If I want to get rid of the stock rom and put a new one on... Are those 3 apps that I have good enough? Or do I need another app? I did a batch back up with titanium backup. Now to put a new rom, I guess I press certain buttons, then get the new rom from the sd card with rom manager, then when my phone is turned back on, go back to titanium backup and restore everything? A little shaky about all of this, I just want to get it straight before I brick my phone. Thanks
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You got it pretty much right except when it comes to TiBu, especially with moving from Rom to Rom, you'd want to restore apps only, not data.
Make a nandroid backup, play with TiBu. If it mess anything at all, restore your nandroid.
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