I seem to have screwed up a purchase again; my first Android phone was a Motorola Milestone, and because of its "International Edition" status it didn't work with any of the much-more popular Droid modifications. We were/are limited to mods that come out specifically for our phones, which are few and far between.
I seem to have run into the same problem with the Atrix. Developers are primarily working with the AT&T model, which doesn't seem to be compatible with the Bell models. Everything that looks promising has a big "DO NOT USE ON BELL ATRIX" label slapped on it; this has lead me to ask:
What's so different about the Bell Atrix that makes most developer tools incompatible? Are we screwed when it comes to new tools?
I don't believe there is much if any difference between the Bell and ATT Atrix hardware wise. The reason we are advised not to try the posted mods is because there hasn't been a ROM package (sbf) from moto or bell released for our phones to help us return to stock if something goes wrong.
I'm sure most/all of the ROMS/mods would work just fine... we just can't test until there is fallback or recovery method.
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I am in possession of both bell atrix and ATT atrix. I have to sell one and keep one but I cannot decide which one?
I like to have root access and play with roms. I have a lapdock as well.
what is your suggestion? which one should I keep?
You might be most qualified to answer this question since you have both phones. Maybe run quadrant on each.? Maybe Linpack too? And definately a speed test. You kind of have me wondering now if there is a substancial difference between the two phones. From reading around the forum it does appear the att version is recieving more attention.
Initially I would've said AT&T hands down..but now i'm not so sure. Since Seven's been able to get the Bell Atrix so that we can install At&T pseudo roms and themes..with the Bell atrix you're going to be more open to updates (from international carriers)..and thus more opportunity for potential updates.
Any bootloader bypass will most likely come from the At&t version however..so it makes it a tough call (although i'm sure once it's bypassed on AT&t's version..it won't be too long before it's applicable to the Bell/International versions)
as of now, I would stick with the AT&T version
I know that the bell atrix doesn't have sideloading disabled. i heard that this was an issue with the att one. Also, I'm not sure about the hsdpa+ speeds being blocked, I would check into that.
As suggested I ran Quadrant on both phones. some background about the phones:
1. ATT
original image, no mods, no theme, unlocked rooted, my primary phone
score 2652
2. BELL
modded phone using bell_deodex_v8, unlocked rooted
score 2803
I feel that the mod on BELL phone and/or ATT having more apps on it has to do with the difference in score.
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As for side rolling it is possible to open it on ATT if you have root.
devbro said:
As suggested I ran Quadrant on both phones. some background about the phones:
1. ATT
original image, no mods, no theme, unlocked rooted, my primary phone
score 2652
2. BELL
modded phone using bell_deodex_v8, unlocked rooted
score 2803
I feel that the mod on BELL phone and/or ATT having more apps on it has to do with the difference in score.
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As for side rolling it is possible to open it on ATT if you have root.
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Ohh yeah most Roms add that feature to your device with my setup I have sideloading enabled. Im not familiar with bell so I can't have say on your OP but hope this helps some
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Not to be cynical, but why do you have both and what carrier are you on? And what country? The AT&T seems to get most of the attention here, as well as Motorola's updates tend to arrive in the USA first, but it mostly depends on your preference.
Found a "deal" on a SGSII branded from Bell - I live in the south US and want to know if I throw a ROM (say Cog or a US dev. ROM) or even if I odin back to a factory ROM from an AT&T model - will this work? I cant think of something that would cause this to be an issue & I'm pretty sure it would get rid of the Bell boot up screens or any other branding but I am not 100% on that as I have never taken a out of country phone and attempted to do this before. I'm no noob with flashing but I'm also no developer either so your experience & assistance is appreciated!
(I searched & couldn't find this answered)
You don't need to replace the ROM. If the Bell phone is sim-locked, you'll need the unlock code; there's an unlocker program in one of the other forums that works with the earlier ROMs. IIRC, more recent ROMs have a different unlock mechanism that hasn't been reverse-engineered yet.
You can't replace the Bell ROM with an AT&T one, since AT&T doesn't have one -- no US carrier has released the SGS2 yet. The factory ROM will do the job; I bought a EU SGS2 back in May and have used it on AT&T since then. I get 3G & HSPA+ data at speeds up to 7 Mbps, using an old 3G SIM I've had for several years.
I have a Verizon samsung fascinate and I'm looking to use it in Canada. It's running AOKP milestone 5 and I'm currently on Pageplus (not using data).
According to wikipedia there are carriers that use cdma in canada most notably Telus and Bell mobility. Is there any other things I need to consider?
I have searched around and I've found that it may be possible to work but carriers such as telus may not be willing to activate it. Others have said US phones are software coded to a certain network's frequency or something of the sort. I'm not really sure about the technical language. There doesn't seem to be entirely definitive answers out there.
I'll be moving to Montreal this fall and many things seem to be more expensive up there. I'm thinking about just getting the Nexus directly from Google but I would like to consider my cheaper options first.
Alright, so I'm not new to Moto android devices. I'm currently stuck with a regional carrier (nTelos), and I had a few questions before I upgrade.
My choices are narrow, but they updated their devices not too long ago when I last checked, and the Razr Maxx was one of the choices I can upgrade to.
My main question is this. My carrier doesn't support LTE, and on my Droid X I was fine when I flashed roms to it, because none of them touched the radio, so I was alright to use the roms that were really made for Verizon phones. I know for a fact however that the LTE radio has been either removed/disabled in the variant of the Razr I will be picking up, so I am wondering if I flash to an AOKP build once I pick up my Razr if it will touch my radio and mess with the configuration? I may be asking kind of a dumb question, but it's a big thing for me because I go to college out of state, and I'd have to ship the phone back and be phoneless for up to a week.
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Alright, so I'm not new to Moto android devices. I'm currently stuck with a regional carrier (nTelos), and I had a few questions before I upgrade.
My choices are narrow, but they updated their devices not too long ago when I last checked, and the Razr Maxx was one of the choices I can upgrade to.
My main question is this. My carrier doesn't support LTE, and on my Droid X I was fine when I flashed roms to it, because none of them touched the radio, so I was alright to use the roms that were really made for Verizon phones. I know for a fact however that the LTE radio has been either removed/disabled in the variant of the Razr I will be picking up, so I am wondering if I flash to an AOKP build once I pick up my Razr if it will touch my radio and mess with the configuration? I may be asking kind of a dumb question, but it's a big thing for me because I go to college out of state, and I'd have to ship the phone back and be phoneless for up to a week.
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anyone?
I don't think it'll make much of a difference, XT912 as well has a few roms, the radio will be untouched if you are installing any custom roms.
I'm not sure if it will affect your radio. Make sure you backup your stock rom. If you use Safestrap, you'll be able to basically install other roms on top of your stock rom, so if your new rom doesn't work, you should just be able to quickly switch back to your stock rom by rebooting your phone. Additionally, it's probably worth mentioning that in the roms I've tried, there are options to change which types of networks you connect to, and if you're concerned, you could just tell your phone not to connect to LTE/4G (assuming the radio still works... I don't know much about how that works, but I think your phone would still work fine).
I am new to the whole cellphone scene. I have much more experience in the PC world.
I purchased an Verizon Galaxy S4 (I545) on e-bay, primarily for use as a media device. I have decided to get pre-paid service on T-Mobile. (My wife has a T-Mobile G2 and when I put her sim card in, I was able to make calls.)
I have the T-Mobile sim installed and will be initiating service tomorrow.
After reading many of the threads here, I see a lot of talk about flashing different ROMS onto the hardware. Since I am not a Verizon customer, I really have no need for "Verizon's" version of Android, other than if it is required for the hardware to work properly. I like to have my options for customization and installing various apk's, etc.... I like to control my hardware and not be limited to what one company or another says I should do. I do travel internationally, which is one reason why my wife has the T-Mobile account, since it has great coverage in Europe, etc....
So, I ask this:
Should I flash a different ROM on this beast?
What would be the benefits?
What would be the drawbacks?
Which ROM would be recommended and why?
Thanks in advance for your insights! :angel:
p.s. Before knowing any better, I updated my S4 using Verizon's Software Upgrade Assistant on my PC, meaning I currently am running Build LRX22C.I545VRUGOC1 w/ Kernel 3.4.0 [email protected] #1.