[Q] Wall charger, voltage importance - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The stock moto wall charger that comes with the phone has the following specs:
100-240v ~ 50/60Hrtz
0.2A
output 5.1V = 850 mA
I've been interchanging between the stock one and my old Galaxy-S one, which lists the following:
100-240v ~50/60Hrtz
0.15A
Output 5.0V = 0.7A
Does the slight undervoltage make a difference? I'm wondering if this is what has been causing my battery issues ? Anyone else use anything other than the official moto charger to charge their Atrix?
I didn't think it would make much of a difference since when you're using the car charger, you're not using exactly the same specs either ... ?
Any info appreciated, thanks!

crippenx said:
The stock moto wall charger that comes with the phone has the following specs:
100-240v ~ 50/60Hrtz
0.2A
output 5.1V = 850 mA
I've been interchanging between the stock one and my old Galaxy-S one, which lists the following:
100-240v ~50/60Hrtz
0.15A
Output 5.0V = 0.7A
Does the slight undervoltage make a difference? I'm wondering if this is what has been causing my battery issues ? Anyone else use anything other than the official moto charger to charge their Atrix?
I didn't think it would make much of a difference since when you're using the car charger, you're not using exactly the same specs either ... ?
Any info appreciated, thanks!
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Should not make a difference. USB is rated from 4.7v to 5.4v and 500 mAs the charging spec is 1 A on the phones (technically charging spec for USB is anything "safe"). USB is considered 5v so actually the Galaxy-S one is more "perfect" for the specs.

I have a 1A charger that will not charge my Atrix but it will charge my old Fuze.
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Recon Freak said:
I have a 1A charger that will not charge my Atrix but it will charge my old Fuze.
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I was readin last night after posting, looks like 850 mA is the charging max for Atrix, it says any higher and it will trickle charge for safty. I don't have the link because I am at work but I think it was on the support forums at motorola.com

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Charger replacement

hi,
i lost my original charger and would like to buy replacement. which can be not htc.
what are technical characteristics of the original charger?
mA, V?
i need with european plug.
thanks!
43 ones read the post and no one replyed. Cmon?! don't you have a charger near you? what are mA and V of the htc original 3part charger?
You can't expect people to reply within 7 minutes of posting a thread Give eBay a go, it'll be your best shot. I've got loads of extra chargers, but they have a US plug (not that hard to get a converter btw, super cheap).
Hope this helps http://cgi.ebay.com/EURO-AC-mini-US...ries?hash=item3ca4fc9c2b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I've lost the orginal charger somewhere, and I was not able to find an original replacement. I successfully tried both following, but I use the second one:
1) Sony AC-U50A: Input Voltage 100 240 V 50/60 Hz, Rated Output Voltage: DC 5.0 V, Rated Output Current: 500 mA (http://www.sony.it/product/paa-ac-adaptors/ac-u50a)
2) Philips SCM2280/05: Voltage Required: AC 100-240 V, Voltage Provided: 5.6 V, Output Current: 500 mA (http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/power-solutions/universal-usb-charger-scm2280_05/prd/gb/)
regards
lontrapignola said:
I've lost the orginal charger somewhere, and I was not able to find an original replacement. I successfully tried both following, but I use the second one:
1) Sony AC-U50A: Input Voltage 100 240 V 50/60 Hz, Rated Output Voltage: DC 5.0 V, Rated Output Current: 500 mA (http://www.sony.it/product/paa-ac-adaptors/ac-u50a)
2) Philips SCM2280/05: Voltage Required: AC 100-240 V, Voltage Provided: 5.6 V, Output Current: 500 mA (http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/power-solutions/universal-usb-charger-scm2280_05/prd/gb/)
regards
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Be careful with other chargers, they can actually hurt your device. If i'm correct, original HD chargers charge at 1000 mA, not 500. There've been several complaints with Motorla and Nokia chargers that end up messing the battery and the device so just a heads up.
kareeem said:
You can't expect people to reply within 7 minutes of posting a thread Give eBay a go, it'll be your best shot. I've got loads of extra chargers, but they have a US plug (not that hard to get a converter btw, super cheap).
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Hi,
I know how to search the ebay or dealextreme.com. If you read my first post it asks for electrical characteristics:
what are technical characteristics of the original charger?
mA, V?
And not "where to find or how to use ebay search".
Thanks for your response.
kareeem said:
Be careful with other chargers, they can actually hurt your device. If i'm correct, original HD chargers charge at 1000 mA, not 500. There've been several complaints with Motorla and Nokia chargers that end up messing the battery and the device so just a heads up.
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Could you (or anybody else) confirm that original charger has a label 1000mA on the back?
Bulka..
Manau visi HTC pakrovejai yra 5V 1A. Turejau P3300 ten irgi buvo 5V/1A, dabar HD irgi tas pats...
I think all HTC chargers are rated 5V 1A. My previuos Artemis charger also was 5V/1A, same is for HD charger.
golfietis said:
Bulka..
Manau visi HTC pakrovejai yra 5V 1A. Turejau P3300 ten irgi buvo 5V/1A, dabar HD irgi tas pats...
I think all HTC chargers are rated 5V 1A. My previuos Artemis charger also was 5V/1A, same is for HD charger.
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Ačiū. Ieškosiu reiškia 1A pakrovėjo. Maniškis atrodė taip pat kaip nuotraukoje.
Big thanks goes to golfietis!!!
500mA isnt the cause of the charge issue on other phones.
500mA is what PC USB sockets give, and will mearly take twice as long to charge your battery than a 1000mA (1A) charger.
voltage is the dangerous value here, but anything using USB-type connector should be 5v.
if you want OE stuff, try http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_phone.aspx?i=173502

Charger specs?

My razr box with charger was stolen from my car before I had a chance to use it. So I am using a generic USB charger which is rated for only 850ma. Can someone look at the included charger and let me know the specs to see if I need to get an OEM charger for faster charge time?
You're OK. It's 5.1 V at 750 mA.
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Charging Galaxy S2 with Motorola Milestone car charger

Hello guys,
Like most of us Android users I had some previous phones that were Android powered...
So with Motorola Milestone I had a 12v car charger, I used it too much with it, now I have a Galaxy S2, if I use the Motorola's charger to charge my phone there will be any problem?
Thanks in advance!
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danielmelo said:
Hello guys,
Like most of us Android users I had some previous phones that were Android powered...
So with Motorola Milestone I had a 12v car charger, I used it too much with it, now I have a Galaxy S2, if I use the Motorola's charger to charge my phone there will be any problem?
Thanks in advance!
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I use my sony charger to charge my HTC evo3d.no problems so far.but iam not sure about Motorola
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The important part here is the voltage the car charger outputs. I believe the standard Galaxy S2 outputs 5V (at 700mA [0.7A]). If the mA is lower, it will take a longer time to charge. If its higher, it will only draw from it what it needs.
So, check the output voltage of the charger is not higher than 5V and you should be ok.
Wezi said:
The important part here is the voltage the car charger outputs. I believe the standard Galaxy S2 outputs 5V (at 700mA [0.7A]). If the mA is lower, it will take a longer time to charge. If its higher, it will only draw from it what it needs.
So, check the output voltage of the charger is not higher than 5V and you should be ok.
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Many thanks!
I'll use it now without any worries so!

AC charger output power (mA)?

To calibrate a stock battery on my new GalaxyII, Battery Monitor Pro is asking to know this info? I cannot seem to read anything on my stock charger to be able to answer this Q. Dam that text is small.
Anyone know this off hand?
5V
700mA
0.7A
THNX tons
Next Question!!It seems my old EVO4G charger will fit my new GS2, but the EVO charger clearly says Output is 5V=1.0A
Are some of my many EVO chargers usable on the GS2?
stlfrosti said:
Next Question!!It seems my old EVO4G charger will fit my new GS2, but the EVO charger clearly says Output is 5V=1.0A
Are some of my many EVO chargers usable on the GS2?
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Yeah, even though it says 1A your phone will limit it to the max it can receive. (they're usable).
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It will charge at 650mA.
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THNX again guys!!!
Insurance sent me a GS2 after my EVO replacement was a dog!! Dam thing was a refurbish that they didn't get right... so "for your troubles" they sent me the GS2 and so now I'm learning a few things over again.
I got tons of EVO batteries and accessories tho.
Wezi said:
5V
700mA
0.7A
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Can i convert A (from charger) to mA (to app) by just multiplying A x 100? (0.7A x 100 = 700mA)?
Or charger's voltage matters/depends aswell? If it do so, what's the formula to get mA?
Look below to my charger's label - which A value should i use? This from output - 1.0 or this above - 0.16?
Full label:
Input: 100-240V~
50/60Hz 0.16A
Output: 4.8V - 1.0A
xStagGx said:
Can i convert A (from charger) to mA (to app) by just multiplying A x 100? (0.7A x 100 = 700mA)?
Or charger's voltage matters/depends aswell? If it do so, what's the formula to get mA?
Look below to my charger's label - which A value should i use? This from output - 1.0 or this above - 0.16?
Full label:
Input: 100-240V~
50/60Hz 0.16A
Output: 4.8V - 1.0A
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There are 1000mA in 1A.
I have a question of my own, my galaxy s2 charger broke. The standard rating for it is 5V @ 700mA. I bought a Samsung USB charger but it only has 4.4V and 400mA. I know it will charge slower because of the lower amp rating but will the lower voltage change anything?
xStagGx said:
Can i convert A (from charger) to mA (to app) by just multiplying A x 100? (0.7A x 100 = 700mA)?
Or charger's voltage matters/depends aswell? If it do so, what's the formula to get mA?
Look below to my charger's label - which A value should i use? This from output - 1.0 or this above - 0.16?
Full label:
Input: 100-240V~
50/60Hz 0.16A
Output: 4.8V - 1.0A
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Oh dear..
1st thing:
1A = 1000mA, so 0.7A = 700mA although how you got from 0.7 x 100 = 700 is beyond my understanding (its 70 in case you were wondering)
2nd thing:
no the voltage doesn't matter in this conversion.. it's basic math
3rd thing:
you should use the output value from your charger, so in your case 1.0A = 1000mA
4th and last thing:
I suggest to reread book of physics from school.. especially the part about electricity SI base units and metric prefixes
Jaisah said:
There are 1000mA in 1A.
I have a question of my own, my galaxy s2 charger broke. The standard rating for it is 5V @ 700mA. I bought a Samsung USB charger but it only has 4.4V and 400mA. I know it will charge slower because of the lower amp rating but will the lower voltage change anything?
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Except slow charge probably no, but I would not use it. Is it even working?

Perseus Kernel, charge config.

I posted this in Perseus thread too, but unfortunately i didn't receive any answers.
Guys, my gf will be getting a 2.1A + 1.0A dual usb charger because her old one died, what is the safe limit for the charging control so i don't fry her S3?
Will it be ok around 1400mah?
Thanks.
I suggest you stick with stock value which is 1000 mA over wall charger and 475 mA over USB.
In theory, yes, the i9300 can take with maximum up to 2100 mA but I'm sure nobody will recommend it.
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qtwrk said:
I suggest you stick with stock value which is 1000 mA over wall charger and 475 mA over USB.
In theory, yes, the i9300 can take with maximum up to 2100 mA but I'm sure nobody will recommend it.
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So you think going above 1000mah could be dangerous to the device?
The charger supports 2.1A, or atleast that's what it says.
(When i had an S3 too, i set usb input charge to 850mah because i had usb 3.0 on my pc and it was charging just fine!Don't know if it matters or not though.)
nfsmw_gr said:
So you think going above 1000mah could be dangerous to the device?
The charger supports 2.1A, or atleast that's what it says.
(When i had an S3 too, i set usb input charge to 850mah because i had usb 3.0 on my pc and it was charging just fine!Don't know if it matters or not though.)
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I know, the chargers for tablets such as iPad has output capacity of 2100 mA.
And I think, stock value set to 1000 mA is for good reason like archive minimum charge time and less dangerous to the device and battery.
One thing I sure is that, if you charge with 2.1 A, your battery will probably heat up like hell, and that high temperature is NOT GOOD for Li-ion battery as we have for i9300.
For myself, I always set it down to 800 mA for over night charging (I guess you won't set up a alarm in the middle of night to wake you up to unplug the charger, will ya? ). And I do use 2.1 A charging, in case of EMERGENCY like I have to go out for long time and my battery is low so I have to make the battery charged as much as I possibly could. But still, it is NOT recommended.
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