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Sorry to post a new thread about this but I was searching the atrix forums and could not find anything on it. Any thoughts on anti virus apps such as lookout security a necessity? Thanks.
stevehkim said:
Sorry to post a new thread about this but I was searching the atrix forums and could not find anything on it. Any thoughts on anti virus apps such as lookout security a necessity? Thanks.
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I don't think it's worth it. I've only heard of really weak Android "viruses". I hardly see the point of antivirus for Android. As long as you stay on the Market and don't download anything that seems extremely weird I think you're ok.
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I don't think it's worth it. I've only heard of really weak Android "viruses". I hardly see the point of antivirus for Android. As long as you stay on the Market and don't download anything that seems extremely weird I think you're ok.
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seems like all it would do is slow your phone down and/or decrease battery life
although i should say I don't even have antivirus on my pc
I have Lookout and just have it running in the background and doing weekly scans and backups. You don't have to see it, and it doesn't even eat battery power.
For me, better to have it than not. Just in case.
Not worth it if your a flashaholic
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I was at the Android BBQ Cyanogen panel and someone asked this. Straight from the Master's mouth, unless you are going crazy downloading unknown sources from China you do not need it, it's ineffective.
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I was at the Android BBQ Cyanogen panel and someone asked this. Straight from the Master's mouth, unless you are going crazy downloading unknown sources from China you do not need it, it's ineffective.
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Honestly, I think this is a bs statement for anyone to make. Any time you connect any device to a computer you risk a virus migrating/transferring/infecting that device. Any time you download anything from the internet, no matter the source, you risk a virus. Just because it came from the Market does not mean it's clean. Similarily, just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean any virus you had will be gone. Wiping is no guarantee unless you completely wipe everything, which nobody does.
Many years ago people did not care about, or even know about, anti-virus on their home computers.......yup, big mistake! System crashes, personal information lost, important files lost/corrupted, remote management, identity theft, etc.
There is nothing wrong with employing anti-virus on your cellphone. It's an internet/wireless/network connected device, and should be treated just like any other such device.
Personally I use Lookout Premium. I have found it works well for me, and uses next to no resources. I can't speculate on other anti-virus for phones such as AVG as I haven't used them. The best offence is a good defence.
CaelanT said:
Honestly, I think this is a bs statement for anyone to make. Any time you connect any device to a computer you risk a virus migrating/transferring/infecting that device. Any time you download anything from the internet, no matter the source, you risk a virus. Just because it came from the Market does not mean it's clean. Similarily, just because you flash a new ROM doesn't mean any virus you had will be gone. Wiping is no guarantee unless you completely wipe everything, which nobody does.
Many years ago people did not care about, or even know about, anti-virus on their home computers.......yup, big mistake! System crashes, personal information lost, important files lost/corrupted, remote management, identity theft, etc.
There is nothing wrong with employing anti-virus on your cellphone. It's an internet/wireless/network connected device, and should be treated just like any other such device.
Personally I use Lookout Premium. I have found it works well for me, and uses next to no resources. I can't speculate on other anti-virus for phones such as AVG as I haven't used them. The best offence is a good defence.
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Yup Caleant is right. As a matter of fact they just recently(maybe a few months back) took down like 20 or more apps from the regular android market and some were quite popular too for being infected. I believe they were all infected with the dream virus or something like that. So that other statement that guy said about how you only need it if your installing from unknown sources or apps from china is complete BS!
android is based on linux do i have to remember you? ....
just be cautious and everything will be alright
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Ov3rd0se said:
android is based on linux do i have to remember you? ....
just be cautious and everything will be alright
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And then the same as any Linux kernel it will be succeptible to rootkits and various other security issues - how often is the Android kernel patched? (go have a look over at exploit-db...)...also there is java on top of that Linux kernel...therefore....
Another vote for using it here - I am running Bit Defender - its uses little to no resources and no battery and it is definitely better to be safe than make assumptions
+1 for Lookout, it actually has alerted me of malicious software and aborted the installation once before. Here is a good and recent example of just how easy it is for malicious apps to be downloaded from even the Android Market.
I did not use antivirus for my other phones as they either had very slow processor (backflip) or very little ram (x10) and they did slow the phone down. However, with the atrix, I do have a antivirus (lookout) and find it useful. I mean, come on, what do you lose? Also, i tried avg once, it flagged superuser as an unsafe app and told me usb debugging is a unsafe option. It was SO annoying i uninstalled it.
Its good but personally I don't use it.All my files go to my pc get scanned and then put to my phone.I backup almost everyday for good measure and I constantly switch between ROMs for fun so for me its not really a big deal,but for others it might be very important
I use kaspersky mobile security and wouldn't feel comfortable just installing apk's without some form of check.
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Its good but personally I don't use it.All my files go to my pc get scanned and then put to my phone.I backup almost everyday for good measure and I constantly switch between ROMs for fun so for me its not really a big deal,but for others it might be very important
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All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
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All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
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That's what I thought too when I read his post. Just smile and nod lol.
Virus and CM7
I'm running CM7 on my Atrix. All was going very well until recently when it stopped recognizing the car dock. I am not running an antivirus yet (which will change given the above posts, regardless of the answer to this question.
Could a virus have been the culprit?
No sir, I seriously doubt that.
I use androidlost
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All downloads and all data go through your PC first? This would have to include Market downloads, web pages you navigate to through your phone browser, etc. It's impossible to run all files through your PC first.
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What I meant was about apps outside of the market and most things including apps I get outside the market.....things even from this site I download to my pc and scan.as far as internet well you're on your own but unless your on some porn site or torrent or creepy forums there isn't much chance to be hacked.I'm not in anyways saying that u shuldnt use lookout or apps like it but how many people can you name or even think of the top of your head that got hacked on their android device.....not a whole lot......
Thought I'd post a contrary opinion (based on many of the threads here and on other sites).
I REALLY like my NT! I've come up Handsprings, Palms, Pres, and iPads, so this isn't my first visit to the rodeo. Currently, I've got the NT and a Sprint Evo 3D.
Yes, out of the box there's some gaps, but a bit of time here and other forums have offered suggestions on side-loading, sync'ing my Evo apps, and tweaking the KT. It's not the end-all-and-be-all pad,but for the price, it does well.
The biggest issue I had was the lack of offline media, since I spend 12-15 hours a week in the air. However, a bit of cross-syncing and I've got my Amazon MP3 library and a couple of pretty good media players.
Am I missing things? Well, I'd really like bluetooth for my freedom keyboard and being able to see my side loaded apps from the main launcher would be nice, but at this moment, I'm finding the KT to be a fine investment.
Oh, and I have moved my new media purchases over to BN. I figure tossing them some bucks only encourages them to keep Nook development going.
I'm really happy with mine too. Its super snappy, feels much more polished than the nook color did. Plus I love reading and reading is an absolute pleasure on this thing.
I absolutely adore my NT, granted its my first tablet, but its ridiculous how much i can do with it for the price i paid. Not to mention it hasnt even been rooted yet!
Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
Well, since I haven't found too much I couldn't do without a touch of effort, I'm not feeling the pain of not being able to root. Sure, it may come later, but, yeesh, I've only had the NT for 3 days!!
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Ok, I have to ask because I keep seeing things go back and forth:
If one could get a NC or NT for the same price (hypothetically), which would they choose? The rooted NC? Or the "upgraded" NT?
I currently have the NC and I can get my gf to get me a NT for christmas bc she wants my NC. Is it worth the trade?
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The nook tablet. The difference in speed alone is worth it, the nook color felt underpowered to me even rooted.
Ditto.
On paper, the specs are simply hardware upgrade...this much B&N got it right. In reality, it makes the the device more responsive and more enjoyable user experience. The jerky delay in NC drove me nuts.
I have owned the xoom, asus transformer, galaxy tab 10.1, htc flyer and got rid of them all. The one reason? The tegra 2 processor. These devices were hamstrung in the video playback department, a fundemental functional of a media tablet. The NT plays the same hd media files i couldn't on these high end devices FLAWLESSLY. If you ask me this alone makes the nook tablet worth it.
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My tablet history has been:
Viewsonic Gtab (Awful. Just awful. Don't ever even look at one)
Nook Color (1.1ghz OC and still slow to my tastes)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (The designer of the Tegra 2 should be impaled as punishment)
Nook Tablet (It does what I wanted except run Google stuff)
What I had wanted was to watch 720p shows in bed or plane or between classes. NT has been the only thing that could do that except my phone (SGS Fascinate).
Even without a root ever coming to be and having to deal with sideloading I still think this is the best tablet I have ever owned. And it's made by a damn bookstore >.>
There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
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There some flaws but I bought it mainly for browsing the internet. It really excels at that! I have mainly been using dolphin, not the stock browser. Overall I am extremely satisfied with my purchase. I was at Best Buy today and checked out the kindle fire. It was cool but I really didnt like size of it. I have big hands and like how now matter how i hold my nook its always comfortable. The only thing I really want to change is the crappy keyboard
About the not seeing sideloaded apps, I installed go launcher. From there I use a combo of widget locker, Wave launcher(right side of the screen), and button savior( left side of the screen). I also learned to fear the nook button. I havnt seen the stock nook launcher in over a day now.
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I have noticed that using the n button in certain situations (ex: during video in MX Player, certain games) it acts as a back button. Don't fear the n just treat it like a very "special" friend.
I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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I've driven twice to a B&N store and played with the device. As of right now, I still haven't taken the plunge because of three big reasons:
1) I need a web browser that can let me access an Extranet of my work place, and when I used the NT stock browser, the login page button doesn't even show up as a button, but just a jpeg. I know using the Android stock nameless browser, it isn't a problem at all. So it's a huge issue for me.
2) Even if I can get the web browser issue resolved, I am fearful how B&N has the unilateral ability to update the NT without our consent (unless specifically block B&N incoming traffic), we'll lose the ability to sideload and send us back to stone age. (It wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
3) The 1gb user content space wouldn't an issue if we can root it, but now it seems like a huge deal. (Again, it wouldn't be an issue if root is accomplished)
Are my concerns legitimate? I firmly believe the NT could be huge, but right now, we just need to be patient and let our devs gurus find an exploit, or somehow we can get B&N to loosen up the grip on the bootloader.
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Well, issue 2 is definitely legitimate. Issue 1, just go to the store and install dolphin on one of their nooks, see if you can login to work.
Issue 3, if the rumors are true that they will be able to repartition the space in a week or so then, well, not an issue.
if the nook tablets bootloader is truly locked, then say good bye to ever, ever seeing a beautiful custom kernel on the nook tablet to perform tweaks such as overclocking. This also makes it difficult to create custom roms. cyanogenmod 7 is a possibility with 2nd init. cyanogenmod 9 is also a possibility, but unless official ics is dished out to the nook tablet, then we will get cyanogenmod 9 2nd init with gingerbread libs.. Someone should send a rather nasty note to barnes & noble about this.
Re: 1GB usable - It's a legitimate support issue. You (and everyone concerned) should call support and light a fire.
Front-line grunts won't be able to help you (a good thing), so ask to escalate it to as high as you can go. Your first response will be to get the tech's name. Your last response will be, "I'm sorry you can't help me with this issue. Please refer me to someone who can. If no other tech is available, please let me speak to your manager."
Don't get discouraged if you get blown off or hit a dead-end. Redial and retry. Social engineering is about patience and persistence. Always be polite, but firm.
Once you get to someone who knows his bits and bytes, then soften your tone and get friendly. Talk shop. Use the occasion to ask about other techy things, like, eh, locked bootloader. Get whatever info you can, including the dude's extension number so you can call him back.
The strategy is to leverage a legitimate support issue to get info about the things you really want to know. To do that, you'll have to troll their support services, and have some social engineering skill. It's probably best done in a team, but you can be the Lone Ranger if you're good.
BTW, techsupps have scripts, and you should have one as well. Plan everything you want to say in advance, and type them out.
Anyway, at the very least, you will get the 1GB issue logged and escalated.
I honestly don't think they're going to bother blocking this loophole. There's really nothing in it for them but bad press. Currently they can sell a tablet to regular folks, while at the same time offering a tablet that's also appealing to techie types (but without having to advertise it). There's really no advantage in blocking the loophole.
Also I'm wondering: is there NO way to block updates from Barnes and Noble? No way to tell the device to notify before actually updating? I understand that B&N will push out updates without any warning, but isn't there a way that WE can decide to accept them or not? Or is it really just totally out of our hands?
to whooever it was who thought the HTC flyer was running a tegra 2: it's not. It's a 1.5 ghz single core.
So far, the t2 seems fine in conjunction with mx video player and the software decode on the things I've tried it on. but I'm not mostly using a tablet for video, so the fact that a PAL formatted disc image I have makes trouble is ok by me. I will say, though, that the single core chip in the Samsung media player seems faster than the t2 or the (admittedly brief) run I took at an NT this evening. I didn't walk out of BN needing desperately to replace my NC, though - manual nooter, 1.1 ghz kernel, seemed relatively comparable to what I saw, but I wasn't ready to actually test carefully.
The NT is rooted as of today, via zergrush. This should make it possible to redo the partitioning. The bootloader's another issue; I don't know if anyone has tried looking at putting the little guy into fastboot and seeing if oem unlock is an accepted command. It may be. Unlocking it may turn off Netflix support, but it should open up avenues for complete custom ROMs.
On blocking OTA updates: probably fairly simple. D/l the OTA and look at the build id strings in build.prop. Update build.prop on your device accordingly. I've blocked the 1.3 update this way, and it works great.
It will probably not work cleanly for blocking the 1.4 update, though, if that's a Gingerbread update, since to get the block you probably have to tell the device not just that it's running the current BN build, but that it's also running a Gingerbread vintage OS - but I don't know about that.
There are some sqlite hacks for blocking updates as well - setting an autoupdate flag to "false," basically. I'm not sure how well they work, but blocking the update is always a topic of discussion immediately after one's released and no one's figured out how easy it is to pop yet
My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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My real question on the NT is whether it contains a complete recovery image. Very few Android devices are as idiot-proof as the NC. Most of the "recovery" modes I've seen don't offer the ability to return the device to a true stock state. The NC, at least, is fully recoverable.
To me, that makes the NC one of the most useful Android platforms out there, and if the NT can't do that, then it's not really much of an upgrade for me -- I screw things up. Often. Badly.
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I'm fairly certain that it does have a full recovery image imbedded somewhere. Yesterday I tried in stalling Chainfire (which apparently messes with the filesystem) in order to get full access to the GPU and fool the market, making all apps show up. After installing it, which required a reboot, my NT went into a boot-loop. I could not power it off and with no recovery available I thought I was toast and out of $260. However, after many (10?) failed boots it automatically went into Factory Reset mode and did a complete wipe.
I'm not sure how deep of a tailspin this recovery can get you out of but there is definitely a safety net there.
I have to agree with the OP. I am very happy with my NT. It is very snappy and with the ability to sideload apps I have been able to fill in what I feel was missing. Battery life on this is very good. I did buy this hoping I could boot off an sd card, but if it ends up not possible I will still be pleased with my investment.
I heard about Lookout for checking CIQ on phone and saw that they have a security app. Also saw something by NetQin. I used to use BitDefender on my pc but then it got buggy.
My first smartphone and I'm paranoid. So do most people use a security/anti-virus app on their phone? If so, which do you suggest?
I've had more than my fair share of smart phones. This is my 4th one this year. As for me, I've never used a virus scanner on my phone or any of my computers. I'm just smart and make sure I don't download things I don't know what they are.
I've been using the free version of Lookout for about 3 years through an OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid X2, and now my Rezound. I've never had any issues with it. It seems to work the way it's supposed to.
Not really necessary. But it's up to you really, personal preference in this matter.
Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
Heavily researched this the other day. Not sure if you're worried more about the malware side of life, or the potential of theft - but if you're looking to ID a perp for trying to gank your phone, nothing comes close to the feature set in Cerberus.
Android market link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lsdroid.cerberus&hl=en
Android Police review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...s-a-clear-winner-in-keeping-your-device-safe/
Hadn't even heard of it before last week, but after 10 minutes of messing w/ it, I was sold. Better than anything else in the market by far in terms of what it does & I can confirm everything is working on my Rezound. Also, it's only $3 and change. Can't beat that
Also, for reference, I previously used Prey, but I like this much better.
(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Yeah, I have read that Android doesn't propagate viruses, but seems like there would still be a chance of getting malware or spyware.
Also, does anyone worry about intrusions via bluetooth or something from another person even without using a trojan? I used to read about that ability years ago, where someone could go through your files and grab what they wanted via bluetooth. Is there a way for anyone to do that with our phones?
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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I wrote a paper on Bluetooth for school. Those attacks were fixed with Bluetooth 2.0
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Hm... how does it do that, in layman's terms?
I'm paranoid a bit since our phones are now pretty much like laptops. I have my laptop on lockdown though and this is my first smartphone so I want to be sure I'm not leaving a security hole open for some nefarious character to take advantage of.
Well, I know I already mentioned Lookout, but I'm going to mention them again. These guys seem to know what they're doing. I mean, as this article states, Google trusts them enough to tell them what to remove from the market, so I would assume that they're pretty legit. Again, I've never had an issue with anything, and I've been running Lookout for a while.
The new avast!, which bought and incorporated Theft Aware, seems like the best option on the market to me....It's what I use.
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(Favorite feature is the front cam snaps that get sent to my email, each time my pattern lock is incorrectly swiped)
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Nice feature, I'm going to check it out just for that.
Check out Zoner
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I use lookout, been using it for over two years now on 4 android phones.
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Hello all. Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I recently got my girlfriend a zte overture on aio wireless. I've been looking at a method to root this phone and have found nothing. The phone is pretty decent, not even looking for a custom ROM (yet), just need root to bypass the Google hangout video call WiFi restriction, and to get wifitether working for her.
I understand that their isn't much demand for ROMs and what not for that phone. But with aio wireless going nation wide and the phone being only 150 bucks with semi nice specs and 4g, figured something's would start popping up for this phone.
Anyway any advice and help will be greatly appreciated.
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ZTE Overture z995 - root method from other ZTE's?
I tried the Lumina 620 last week with Aio, and while the phone hardware was awesome the Windows Phone 8 OS was my hangup - (cmon guys, cant even add custom notification sounds? No system file explorer? The HERE maps are 2 years old or more in my area too...).
So I went back to Aio and got the ZTE Overture (Z995). (LTE Rocks! Wow I like the speed and coverage in DFW!)
It's a nice phone - low on memory, but it allows you to remove facebook with no issues, and the build on it is not too junked up.
Can anyone tell or theorize on whether other ZTE root methods work on this phone? I'd love to put a hosts file ad block on it...
Model: Z995
Android Ver: 4.1.2
Baseband: Z995T01
Kernel: 3.4.0-svn5856 [email protected]
I have seen statements that ZTE doe not have a locked bootloader. I noticed in my phone settings, in system updates, it even has options for "Storage card updates" and the "Update ZTE Software" option seems to try to open a zip file on the SD card... so does that mean you could put SU in a zip file and just ask the phone to apply the zip to get root? I doubt it's that simple, but I thought I would ask...
I've tried using google translate on baidu to see if anything came up but man, it's tough to navigate that site if you don't speak Chinese...
Oh - This phone is $79 at Aio. I also asked what happens to us Aio folks when AT&T shuts Aio down to merge it with Cricket in the coming months and got blank stares... (we should be OK, they'll just move us into Cricket I assume. They people at the Aio store might not be so lucky.)
Haven't heard anything about a merge with cricket. Aio just went national about a month ago so that would be strange.
Anyway, I'm still searching for an answer to get root on that phone.
Want to bypass the need to be on WiFi for hangouts, which needs root to achieve.
I'll be sure to post if I find anything
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Haven't heard anything about a merge with cricket. Aio just went national about a month ago so that would be strange.
Anyway, I'm still searching for an answer to get root on that phone. ...
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Do a quick Google for "att cricket aio", you'll see the blogs and news about it... Who knows - maybe if ATT shutters AIO we can get an unlock code early for free.
(hey just a thought does AIO stand for "ATT's Independent Operator"? And would that be ironic, or an oxymoron? )
I must be tired, I've started making bad jokes....
No ZTE 995 Overture root yet...?
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hey just recently got the ZTE and i was wondering if you did find a way to root it???
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I haven't found anything yet. It must not be an extremely popular phone based on the low quantity of hits I get looking around the net for info on it.
Which is weird because I really like it. I got over 5 days of life and was still at 30% when I plugged it in last week, which is awesome (less than 10 minutes talk time on it however). I wasnt sure how much battery life an LTE connection would take but it doesent appear to be much in standby.
I do see references to a ZTE blade and rooting them, and that thread (I think its in xda somewhere) stated all ZTE phones have unlocked bootloaders... and there are threads about the 990 (the Overture is the 995) being unlocked. But until I see someone play with their 995 I am not assuming ZTE left it unlocked. It is a phone on the ATT network so I would expect them to be less customer friendly. (qualification: they dont like you monkeying with their phones as much, but the customer service is tons better than a straight-talk type provider for sure)
I am just hoping I'll run across a post stating how to root it someday. LTE is awesome speeds, but it still burns me up to have to spend some of my bandwidth on video ads on youtube. Especially for something I would never buy and they show the same commercial over and over and over...
-=RB
I also read that zte devices where all unlocked. But if my memory serves correctly, the guide on how to root zte devices found on xDA was for android 2.3.
Surprised that nothing has appeared for the phone. It was a cheap decent price with lte capabilities. Thought more people would be using it.
When I get a chance to tinker with the phone I will.
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Finally found something at least.
http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/
Can't try it as my gf has the phone. Just a heads up if anyone wants to try it. Please post back if you do.
I dont own this phone (yet), however been helping this girl get hers set up. If I buy one may give this a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319257
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DeathGrind said:
Finally found something at least.
http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/
Can't try it as my gf has the phone. Just a heads up if anyone wants to try it. Please post back if you do.
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But this looks promising
Tried oneclickroot with no success. It did recognize the device it just would not root.
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Well I tried that Root Method and it seem to work fine and its pretty easy. Installed super user seems to be working fine the only thing that i am having toruble with is getting the wifi tether to work (im using WiFi tether- TrevE Mod) got it installed and all but when i turn it on it gives me a message tethering started with errors to go to the show log.. I do that and in the show logg everything looks fine except a section named "Enabling NAT rules..." that says failed any suggestions????
Never played much with wifi tethering but usb tethering works. I used foxfi free, however they cut off at bout 45 mb then ya need to restart it. Tried a few others with lil success so far. Gota like AIOs tethering policy, or lack of.
Good to know this will root, cept now I get to figure out why it wouldnt for me. You used oneclickroot? Did you install the drivers manually?
Yes I did install the drivers manually I was having trouble at first for some reason it would get stuck on on of the processes but finally got it. I the only thing is that im having toruble trying to tethering i dont know why have not tried the usb method might try that dont know if i would be abel to used it with my playstaion.. thats the main reason i was trying to tether..
Any was I was reading that that the erros message that it gave me in my show log.. (Enabling NAT rules... Failed) had something to do with the kernel not supporting wifi tether that i would have to flash a different kernel in the phone any suggestions??
NomadSpin said:
Never played much with wifi tethering but usb tethering works. I used foxfi free, however they cut off at bout 45 mb then ya need to restart it. Tried a few others with lil success so far. Gota like AIOs tethering policy, or lack of.
Good to know this will root, cept now I get to figure out why it wouldnt for me. You used oneclickroot? Did you install the drivers manually?
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Nothing like wasting your time to post something that has no value or relevance..... Moving on
@chuco10. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be tinkering around with with rooting that phone in a week or so, when I visit the gf. Awesome to know it works.
Sure I'll be trying to figure out the WiFi tether as well. At least with the phone rooted I can bypass that stupid WiFi restriction on Google hangouts video calling. Thanks again for posting back. Appreciate it
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Nothing like wasting your time to post something that has no value or relevance..... Moving on
@chuco10. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be tinkering around with with rooting that phone in a week or so, when I visit the gf. Awesome to know it works.
Sure I'll be trying to figure out the WiFi tether as well. At least with the phone rooted I can bypass that stupid WiFi restriction on Google hangouts video calling. Thanks again for posting back. Appreciate it
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Yeah No problem. Let me know if you get the the wifi tether to work im going to keep messing around with it for a lil bit see if i can get anything worked out.. hopefully I can start tethering soon.. ONly if i could find a kernel that will be compatible with the this phone..
so, what actually works?
Ok, just so I read the thread correctly, the one click root site DID work for getting root, but the other referenced thread talking about rooting the blade has not been proven to work on the 995/overture, correct?
One click pops up frequently in my searches for root, but I thought it involved downloading a windows app and paying $30 to some unknown website. If that is true then I'll wait till another method is posted. I won't risk running an app unless I know what it is really doing to both my phone and my PC. And I am certainly not forking out $30 for it.
It seems risky and, well, not in the spirit of xda... I mean isn't it more about learning how it all works, discovering how to do it on your own, and working with fellow xda'ers to develop and vet a good (transparent) process for root?
If one click works well and you don't mind the cost and not knowing what their software is really doing, then that's ok. There's no right or wrong here in my opinion.
I just don't see it as being as much fun or as safe a way to get to root...
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Ok, just so I read the thread correctly, the one click root site DID work for getting root, but the other referenced thread talking about rooting the blade has not been proven to work on the 995/overture, correct?
One click pops up frequently in my searches for root, but I thought it involved downloading a windows app and paying $30 to some unknown website. If that is true then I'll wait till another method is posted. I won't risk running an app unless I know what it is really doing to both my phone and my PC. And I am certainly not forking out $30 for it.
It seems risky and, well, not in the spirit of xda... I mean isn't it more about learning how it all works, discovering how to do it on your own, and working with fellow xda'ers to develop and vet a good (transparent) process for root?
If one click works well and you don't mind the cost and not knowing what their software is really doing, then that's ok. There's no right or wrong here in my opinion.
I just don't see it as being as much fun or as safe a way to get to root...
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Says free http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/ i was never prompted to pay.
cool.
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Says free http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/zte-overture/ i was never prompted to pay.
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Well then I guess the reviews on their forum were incorrect then... When I looked thru their blog there were comments stating it asked for $$ at some point. Aside from that there were tons of complaints about unsupported phones... And maybe one or two happy posts out of 20 bad ones.
I'll give it a closer look then. I know I can sandbox the application in a VM, so maybe I can get a backup of the phone before I play with it w/o using clockwork as well.
Will post what I find... Thanks!
OK, who actually got oneclick to work? And has anyone used the blade thread sucessfully?
Also, if you read the legalese when installing it, it clearly states the payment for service must be made to a canadian recovery company, and that you release all rights, etc etc. I did notice any legalese on privacy was missing, which I expected to see. There is a license tab with a space for activation codes as well. (i.e. it's definitely a paid app, but trying to find out how much is difficult, its not on their website anywhere.)
And I can verify the oneclickroot tries to see the device (goes thru identify, validate, download, install), but always throws up a "Please confirm your device is connected - install ADB manually" box. ADB Driver links bounce you to the ZTE news page that has a link for an older "ZTE 3G adb driver download" which gives you a file - "ZTE_Android USB_Driver_For_Microsoft_PC.rar". And after installing that, I still don't have any luck getting the solution to work.
I suspect those first few "steps" in oneclick root are bogus as well, because if you don't have any phone connected and start the process, it still goes through the "Identify, validate, download, install" steps.
For the phone, I noticed that while I can choose from several different options for connections in settings (Charge Only, USB Mass Storage, Install Driver, Connect to PC Software, Media Device (MTP), and Camera (PTP) ) several of those options show a failure in windows for the "Android" driver. That said, I have no problem using or connecting to the phone as a media device, camera, or mass storage device, so I'm not sure what the "Android" device driver that keeps failing is supposed to be for. Maybe that's what is preventing oneclickroot from going further, but I have no way to tell at this point.
So I would recommend at this point to stay away from it. Overpriced, does not work (even though it attempts to appear it is doing something), and privacy concerns are not addressed in their legalese, as well as we still have no idea what their executable is actually doing to the phone or the windows host, and they wont clearly state what it costs.
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OK, who actually got oneclick to work? And has anyone used the blade thread sucessfully?
Also, if you read the legalese when installing it, it clearly states the payment for service must be made to a canadian recovery company, and that you release all rights, etc etc. I did notice any legalese on privacy was missing, which I expected to see. There is a license tab with a space for activation codes as well. (i.e. it's definitely a paid app, but trying to find out how much is difficult, its not on their website anywhere.)
And I can verify the oneclickroot tries to see the device (goes thru identify, validate, download, install), but always throws up a "Please confirm your device is connected - install ADB manually" box. ADB Driver links bounce you to the ZTE news page that has a link for an older "ZTE 3G adb driver download" which gives you a file - "ZTE_Android USB_Driver_For_Microsoft_PC.rar". And after installing that, I still don't have any luck getting the solution to work.
I suspect those first few "steps" in oneclick root are bogus as well, because if you don't have any phone connected and start the process, it still goes through the "Identify, validate, download, install" steps.
For the phone, I noticed that while I can choose from several different options for connections in settings (Charge Only, USB Mass Storage, Install Driver, Connect to PC Software, Media Device (MTP), and Camera (PTP) ) several of those options show a failure in windows for the "Android" driver. That said, I have no problem using or connecting to the phone as a media device, camera, or mass storage device, so I'm not sure what the "Android" device driver that keeps failing is supposed to be for. Maybe that's what is preventing oneclickroot from going further, but I have no way to tell at this point.
So I would recommend at this point to stay away from it. Overpriced, does not work (even though it attempts to appear it is doing something), and privacy concerns are not addressed in their legalese, as well as we still have no idea what their executable is actually doing to the phone or the windows host, and they wont clearly state what it costs.
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HUH thats wierd i got mine to work no problem and never asked for no payment nothing.. The only thing that i cant get to work is the wifi tether still having problem there any suggestiongs..
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HUH thats wierd i got mine to work no problem and never asked for no payment nothing.. The only thing that i cant get to work is the wifi tether still having problem there any suggestiongs..
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There may be an app blocking mobile hotspot like tmobile puts on there phones. Seems unlikely since AIO told me they had no problems with tethering but never know. Pick up an uninstaller from the play store an look through all the apps.
Only other suggestion i can think of right now is trying the different wifi tethering apps available.
Maybe one of these days we will get a dev in here making custom ROMS, can only hope. :fingers-crossed:
This may be something http://androidforums.com/force-4g-lte-all-things-root/702172-wifi-tether.html
Would try it myself but don't have it yet. Or access to the phone i was setting up. (that woman was crazy)
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There may be an app blocking mobile hotspot like tmobile puts on there phones. Seems unlikely since AIO told me they had no problems with tethering but never know. Pick up an uninstaller from the play store an look through all the apps.
Only other suggestion i can think of right now is trying the different wifi tethering apps available.
Maybe one of these days we will get a dev in here making custom ROMS, can only hope. :fingers-crossed:
This may be something http://androidforums.com/force-4g-lte-all-things-root/702172-wifi-tether.html
Would try it myself but don't have it yet. Or access to the phone i was setting up. (that woman was crazy)
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Thanks NomadSpin im going to try the uninstaller but what kind of app. would I be looking for that would block the wifi tether??
Ok guys come on this is driving me absolutely insane. Beautiful phone, no root all these work arounds because there is no root is driving me insane. Spent many many hours scouring xda and google for a solution. Maybe we need to think outside the box on this one remember Gingerbreak? I realize on a software level we have only standard user access, but its just an OS theres gotta be something we can do. Who needs what to get this going? Im brave enough to do what needs to be done/tested on my i527. Im comftorable using any tools you need me to will provide promptly. My device is ATT Branded but it is unlocked and currently being used on MetroPCS with working lte and usb tethering
Downgrading
What is seriously stopping us from odin'ing or heimdalling this thing back to stock 4.2.2? Never in my life have a seen a device (phone pc etc) that could not be drastically changed by going to the hardware level. Thats the point of download mode right? bypassing the need for a sucessful initialization. This thing is just a Krait 300 cpu with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 soc, seriously nothing new or special about it. (yes i understand the bootloader is locked and encrypted)
Ive been doing alot of thinking about this device and it honestly reminds me of the old days when we ran embedded systems, with alot of those embedded systems theres was no hardware level access what so ever, but there was always a way. Ive done numerous GPS's, Car stereos etc. All running windows embedded with no hardware level access and were able to bypass system software with ease. i realize yes it was windows embedded but the principal is still the same, not much has really changed since then. (yes i know ALOT has changed but not really all the same rules/principals apply) What we are dealing with seems to be software based encryption in the firmware of the device. With a computer I think of a couple things 1. with a bios password you screwed up on what do you do? reset the cmos...this is obiviously out for obvious reasons. 2. update/restore/bypass that bios Got a problem with the bios or screwed up restore it, done. (once again I realize these are not like a standard pc just comparison thinking outside the box remember?) Id really like to see this device flashed back to 4.2.2 then twrp'd or cwm to whatever we want from there.
Whats the real problem here?
Been asking myself what is the REAL problem? I dont mean, root or locked bootloader. What is really stopping us? Answer is super simple yet complicated. User Account Permissions We need rw access to that system folder. Via terminal on the device im able to mount /system as rw but any further changes are useless usually result in a bad mode error. Maybe we need to call in a black hat boy and give us an account exploit for at least software level (os root is better than no root right?)? Ive got some friends in high places in security working for that wonderful DoD, ive been in the game a long time can keep up with most of em but i went networking not security.
Come on people Ive never seen this community give up on something like this before! Yall got me started on all this with my ppc6700, and this bump in the road just makes me wanna lift the civic up a bit so we dont scrape and hit it at 30mph.
In the words of Young Jeezy:
If you grind hard enough
You could stack a few mil' nigga make it out the streets like me
If you grind strong enough
You could be a trap star nigga be on TV and keep it G
If you grind long enough
You could take care of your nephews and your nieces and your moms and your girl
If you grind hard enough
You could stand on top, tell these hatin a** niggas It's Tha World
Its all you man, knock yourself out. I was optimistic for a year. Longest year of my life. I got parolled and then liberated from Samsung.
It was malnourished from the get go, designed as an affordable big screen device. But very average.
Get out now my friend.
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