Been very busy with work recently and haven't been able to keep pace with whats going on around here.
My atrix is essentially all stock with the exception of having done the webtop mod (no-root method)...will I need to undo that to properly do the update or can i just install the update (which loses the webtop mod as i understand it) and then redo the mod as updated for 4.1.57?
You will have to undo the MOD. the update will download and start, but will fail when checking the existing file system.
You will need root to undo the MOD, but you can unroot and then update if you like, you just won't be able to get the Webtop back without root. The "without root" method doesn't work on 4.1.57 because the script obtained temp root which can no longer be accomplished on stock 4.1.57.
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Okay, so I haven't as of yet seen a thread that appears to spell out this process. Most of you are talking about applying developer-modified patches to get to DI01, using Clockwork recovery, and things like that. For various reasons, some of us prefer to remain a bit closer to stock, and not worry about bricking with custom recovery software and whatnot. I'm one of those people, and I've seen questions here and there on how to go back to stock, and if root can be maintained or redone afterward, etc., so I decided to document here what I did to apply the official update to my rooted and lag-fixed Fascinate. Without further ado, here's the process I followed:
Ran the unlagfixme.bat script from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597, which automatically reboots the phone
Used Root Explorer to remove the ".old" extension I had added to all system .apk files I considered bloatware (I chose to disable them, not delete them)
Rebooted the phone again for good measure
Downloaded the update, and let it install normally, after which root access was gone as expected (Superuser.apk and other apps that required root access were still present, but they wouldn't function)
Rooted my Fascinate again per the instructions in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779238, just like I did the first time (only had to do it once, not twice like some here have said); note that I followed all instructions except for the final one, which is installing Superuser.apk, as that application was still installed, and still worked fine after applying the proper permissions to su and busybox
Opened Root Explorer, and once again added .old to all .apk files that I wanted to disable and remove from sight
Rebooted again
Ran the lagfixme.bat from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779597 to re-apply the lag fix
Rebooted one final time to make sure everything was in still good working order
So there it is. I'm still running stock ROM, stock recovery, etc. I should be able to easily repeat this process any time there's a new OTA update, with minimal risk of bricking.
Helpful thanks, but I think I screwed up.
SO I got the OTA update message this morning. I have root and lagfix installed, and I ran the OTA. Everything works but I no longer have root access. SO I think I screwed up. Newb right. SO do I have to go back to the stock image? What do I need to do to recover while retaining my contacts apps etcetera. Thanks
propylene22 said:
SO I got the OTA update message this morning. I have root and lagfix installed, and I ran the OTA. Everything works but I no longer have root access. SO I think I screwed up. Newb right. SO do I have to go back to the stock image? What do I need to do to recover while retaining my contacts apps etcetera. Thanks
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Just re-root, either through adb or there was a one-click out there.
Yeah, just re-root using the original procedure you used (except no need to reinstall superuser.apk), and you should be good to go.
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Thanks for taking the time to write that up Ivorycruncher!
How would this process differ when the Froyo update is released, also having ClockworkMod Recovery installed instead of stock recovery?
I, like you, would like to have legitimate updates installed while keeping root.
I've never installed Clockwork, so I can't comment on that. When Froyo comes out, I imagine the process will be much the same, though at this point there's no way to know if the original rooting method will still work or not after the upgrade. Also, depending on what they do with Froyo, the lag fix may not be necessary anymore, and might not work without some tweaking even if it is still needed.
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I have a D2G. I rooted it.
But it now wants to do a 2.4.3 update. of course the update fails when it reboots
So my question is, could i apply the update using the bootstrap. has anyone tried doing this, would it brick my phone if i tried.
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I have a D2G. I rooted it.
But it now wants to do a 2.4.3 update. of course the update fails when it reboots
So my question is, could i apply the update using the bootstrap. has anyone tried doing this, would it brick my phone if i tried.
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You probably could if you remember to wipe data and cache, and you should probably get the Team Black Hat app and download the SBF/driver/RSD Lite files just in case.
Edit: Oh, the update file. If it's failing to install, you should probably just try the full install. I'm not sure why it wouldn't go through unless you're on stock, in which case, you HAVE to use full install.
I think he is talking about the official Verizon update. Not FRM...
When you rooted did you stop or remove any of the Blur apps? That will cause the update to fail. All of the Blurr must be there for the update to work.
If you used Z4Root to root your device, try to unroot the device with zroot and then try the update again.
You may have to re-install Zroot after it is completed to re-root the phone. But I did the update before I rooted almost the day I got the phone so I had not really done enough to notice if it wipes the device and data. My guess would be no!
Since I did this from the stock rom I did not bother to look but if the file is a zip file then chances are likely you can run it from the clockwork recovery.
But best bet is to unroot and then try it again before you go that route.
I would however get RSDLite and the stock SBF to have handy in case you run into problems.
You cannot apply the OTA update (I assume you are talking about 2.4.330 Verizon official OTA update) from the custom recovery. It must be instaled via stock recovery. But due to the way update is made (patch based) it will fail if there are alternations (missing files) in any of the system areas. You must restore all changes you made in /system/app (assuming you froze/delete some stock apps), if you are rooted it is ok, update will not bother (extra files in system do not break the checksum - update only checks original files. But if there is even a single file missing (deleted/renamed) in system area, update will fail to install. If you can't figure it out (what is missing) and update keeps failing, simply flash full SBF to return to stock, apply the OTA update then reroot and freeze/remove all apps that you don't want in system area.
Hey everyone, I am new to the rooting world however I have only experienced good things. I decided to root my thunderbolt using TB Autoroot+htc sync last night(had the original stock froyo, was going to installed cyanogen mod 7) and was successful. Unfortunately, I then installed the leaked 2.3.4 RUU GB which rerooted my TB before I installed the cm7(wanted to try the RUU out, bad idea lol). I was wondering if all or any of these are possible (dont care about losing data, just don't want to brick, ie avoiding command lines if possible):
1. root the phone while maintaining the leaked 2.3.4 RUU, just as was done for FROYO? Original reason for rooting was to remove the bloatware apps, but not having custom roms would be ok at this point if that is this is the only option. I know there is the revolution method to root, however will that work on the leaked 2.3.4 RUU?
2. root the tb with my current 2.3.4 RUU and install the BAMF 2.3.4/sense 3.0 GB build, or some other custom 2.3.4 rom?
A tutorial or walk through would be great! I know there are some out there, however I am looking for one specifically for those that have the leaked 2.3.4 RUU on the thunderbolt.
Also, can someone explain the difference in features of the GB builds that have been out for some time(customs) vs the RUU by verizon? I'm not talking about the physical aspects or the apps that come with, but more in terms of installing/switching between them. I know I need to root in order to install the custom roms, but assuming i can root the 2.3.4 RUU, will I be able to install any other 2.3.4 rom such as BAMF or cyanogen without problems? I have heard that you just arent allowed to go backwards, ie back to Froyo one you update to GB, but I should be able to install any 2.3.4 GB ROM once rooted via the bootloader(power+volume down) True?
Any help would be great! Thanks!
Yes you can. Just use revolutionary to root the new GB build. Here is a video tutorial for you.
Well, here comes your first less than pleasant reply...
Pretty much everything you wanted to know is posted in my thread stickied in the Q&A section. That's also where this post is going to end up. Please check my thread on basic noob questions, search before posting, and post in the correct forum.
Ota update after root
I just got this thunderbolt replacement in the mail. I noticed OTA was trying to update so I hurried and pulled the battery to intterupt the update since it was in the version I needed to be to ROOT. Ok I went ahead and ROOTED the phone then updated my RADIO (wich by the way is a big difference without it, it wont stay in 4g) ok so I think im good to go when I see the phone is trying to do a FIRMWARE update again, I dont know if this will ruin my root or phone so Im in airplane mode till I find out what to do. I dont know how to turn off automatic update and I dont want to mess up my root or phone. WHAT DO I DO PLEASE HELP!!!
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I just got this thunderbolt replacement in the mail. I noticed OTA was trying to update so I hurried and pulled the battery to intterupt the update since it was in the version I needed to be to ROOT. Ok I went ahead and ROOTED the phone then updated my RADIO (wich by the way is a big difference without it, it wont stay in 4g) ok so I think im good to go when I see the phone is trying to do a FIRMWARE update again, I dont know if this will ruin my root or phone so Im in airplane mode till I find out what to do. I dont know how to turn off automatic update and I dont want to mess up my root or phone. WHAT DO I DO PLEASE HELP!!!
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If you are rooted, just use a program like root explorer to search for a file called otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.bak
When you open root explorer, make sure to put it into write mode. look at the top left side of the program and press on the mount r/w option
Cant find rom
I want to flash rom but I cant find it in my sd card through rom manager and also through recovery any suggestions its in the root of the phone highest directory
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I want to flash rom but I cant find it in my sd card through rom manager and also through recovery any suggestions its in the root of the phone highest directory
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If you used your phone to download a rom, its in the "download" folder, move it to the root of sd card
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Root Error
I am trying to Root my Thunderbolt but keep getting the following error:
Failed to get Root!
I am using revolutionary.
I have installed, made sure their was a connection, and then removed HTC Sync.
I downloaded and installed Android USB Drivers.
I selected USB Debugging
Thunderbolt Info:
HBOOT 1.04.000
Android 2.3.4
ROM Ver 2.11.605.9
What am I missing and where can I get it? Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks in advance...
I've never rooted but I believe you need to downgrade. Revolutionary does not work with the latest OTA. There are several posts around that explain how to downgrade to the previous OTA (link below). Then you should be able to use the revolutionary method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401959
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Yes you need to downgrade to 2.11.605.5 then use reveloutionary
I need some help as i have been trying to update to the 45.2.7 ota update but can't because the update seems to fail. Reading through the forums i tried the hold volume up and down key to get error durring install and it's been related to my:
/system/app/dock.apk
/system/app/dockservice.apk
/system/app/portalapp.apk
I wrote down both becasue wehn i did this mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980193
I backed up my files of
/system/app/DockService.odex to /system/app/DockService.odex.bak
/system/app/PortalApp.odex to /system/app/PortalApp.odex.bak
/system/app/DockService.apk to /system/app/DockService.apk.bak
/system/app/PortalApp.apk to /system/app/PortalApp.apk.bak
I do not see a back up of:
/system/app/Dock.apk
/system/app/Dock.odex
Probelm is when copying them back over with root explorer all work but when i try to install the portalapp.apk it gives a message of installation failed.
I do not want to factory reset my phone because of settings and apps, i can re-root the phone after the update not a problem.
Q - Do i need the stock files from someone else sharing them or is there something else i can try, i'm getting a headache from this and just want to update my phone. I never even ended up using the no webtop mod over hdmi either....
Uuughh...help!
there's a questions subforum
The search key is your friend. Yes you need ALL STOCK FILES in order to do an OTA.
Hi guys! I would like To ask, if the Phone is Rooted (only Rooted, without any custom rom), Will i get the notification To update To ics when it Will be available?
Thank You very Much!
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The OTA ICS update is already live, but you cannot update if your phone is rooted.
Having root doesn't affect the download of the OTA update. You can wait for it to notify you, or you can go to Settings -> Device Info -> System Updates to start the download. Having root, you can save the update .zip and .crc files from /cache and put them on your SD Card which is useful for some update methods.
Root and things you can do with root affect whether the update works or not. Installing Busybox in /system/bin, installing bootstrap or safestrap, installing a custom recovery, and who knows what else can prevent the update from completing properly. The guides often recommend wiping the phone with Matt's Droid Razr Utility 1.6 (maybe modified) or 1.7.
-Snags