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Did a brief search here looking to understand how to operate overclocking kernals, but find it/me relatively limited.
I have installed and ran Glitch v11 and v12, played around with HL to LL, and made adjustments to undervoltage utilizing Pimp My CPU and Voltage Control. I have also ran Tweak (though not really a kernal).
My question is this,
am I overclocking when I reduce voltage on Mhz's above 1,000?
If not, could someone point me to, or explain how to achieve overclocking on our phones, and
which kernel and governor do you prefer for overclocking?
As an ammended note, I've installed Tegrak Overclock, but am still looking for a user guide...
Thank you for your time.
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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efan450 said:
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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come on man.. Clock speed (mhz) and undervolting are 2 completely different things.. Forget the voltage.. No changing the voltage is NOT overclocking.. You overclock by changing your maximum clock above 1000mhz which is stock for this phone.. Try long pressing 1200mhz and selecting set as max.. Now your overclocked to 1200mhz..
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No decreasing the voltage is simply undervolting whether it's over 1000 or under. The idea behind undervolting is increasing battery life, but you can't necessarily go and set each level to the maximum undervolt (200) you half to see what works. Increasing the processor speed is overclocking, stock speed is 1000 so anything over that is over clocked. As far as how far as how far you can over clock depends mostly on 2 things, 1. the kernel your using, ( for example if it shows 1300 in the list that means thats all that specific kernel supports) 2. It varys greatly between phones. For example with glitch you can overclock to 1700 but very few phones can run that high for longer than a few minutes!
Hope that helps.
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Yes.. And the fact you say your running glitch and your max oc is only 1300 my guess is you broke your kernel with tegrak overclocks module.. Delete tegrak and stop downloading overclock apps. or any other root app unless you know fully the consequences first.. If after deleting tegrak, and rebooting, if your voltage control don't show a maximum clock of 1700 mhz, then you will need to reflash your glitch kernel
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Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
FJRSport said:
Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
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There are no issues with glitch.. It is what I run.. Very smooth.. Just have to give your phone time to adjust and build cache
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Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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That was it. I had re-installed the older Glitch v12 that was already on my PC. Deleted them and downloaded the newer Glitch kernels to experiment with.
Thanks!
FJRSport said:
Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
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under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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neh4pres said:
under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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Yeah, locking and rebooting was while using the older version of Glitch v12. With the 9/15 dated Glitch I'm at 1300 now with the following settings:
Deadline / ondemand
200 - 1300
1300 -25
1200 -25
1000 -50
800 -50
400 -75
200 -75
1.2GHz is the best I say if you want good battery with a higher frequency. 1.4GHz is the best for anyone who uses their phone alot. Samsung did add 1.2GHz overclock in their source.
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Back to running MIUI without Glitch.
Things that make you go, Hmmm?
For some reason, every time I accessed the keyboard for Google+, it hung, then froze, and 3 of the four times rebooted. The fourth time I needed to remove the battery to reboot. So I re-flashed MIUI 1.9.16 (effectively removing Glitch) and have 0 problems.
Bummer, I like Glitch too.
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
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mkropf said:
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
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are you using JT's 9/12 kernel?
if so...did you overclock it?
i'm on jt's 9/12 with miui 1.9.16 and wondering if I can / should overclock and undervolt it. I'm just trying to maximize battery life at this point.
Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
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Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
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what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
worshipNtribute said:
what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
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You wouldn't want to use my voltages, I put everything way lower than anybody else does or recommends and am just lucky that it is stable for me but it causes the sleep of death for anyone else.
For comparison, just run JT's kernel for a bit and then flash glitch and try it... once you play with OC/UV and voodoo color you won't be able to go back. (you'll be able to but you'd have to be insane.)
Undervolting and profiles.
I have tried a crap ton of different undervolting setting, but none work
Also the profiles in set cpu don't seem to work for me. I have a few of them set and it always sits on the top one I need some guidence with both please!
Another thing my xda premium app isn't pushing my notafications yes its set
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Undervolting is a delicate process. It takes time to find the max undervolt that is stable. With that being said, try undervolting everything by the lowest amount which is -25mv. Check to see if that is stable. If so proceed to go further. Remember lower freq will typically undervolt farther than higher frequencies.
As far as profiles go your probably not using the priority values right. The higher priority is what determines which profile setcpu uses. So for instance if you want a safeguard against overheating, you could set the profile for when the cpu goes above 55C to throttle the processor way down. If you set this profile to 100(max) it will overide all other profiles at 98, 99, 75, 50...etc. Also this may be obvious to some but be sure to tick(enable) the profiles button. If thats not ticked then it doesnt matter how many profiles you have set up. It simply wont use them.
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Undervolting is a delicate process. It takes time to find the max undervolt that is stable. With that being said, try undervolting everything by the lowest amount which is -25mv. Check to see if that is stable. If so proceed to go further. Remember lower freq will typically undervolt farther than higher frequencies.
As far as profiles go your probably not using the priority values right. The higher priority is what determines which profile setcpu uses. So for instance if you want a safeguard against overheating, you could set the profile for when the cpu goes above 55C to throttle the processor way down. If you set this profile to 100(max) it will overide all other profiles at 98, 99, 75, 50...etc. Also this may be obvious to some but be sure to tick(enable) the profiles button. If thats not ticked then it doesnt matter how many profiles you have set up. It simply wont use them.
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When I was on alien rom, I tried 25 on all and it restarted after like a minute. What worked for me was 25 25,50,50,75,75,100 fromm bottom to top. I tried it with cm7 and total no go lol
Lemme tryi 25 on all and see what I get and I didn't know that. They all werent working, so I set them all to 100 lmao, I understand that now
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Aparently its been running 125,125,50,75,75,75,75bottom to top cm7 with 1.3 kernel.
It did restart a couple min ago randomly. Will keep posted
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Glad your getting some results. If it restarts even once it means at least one of your undervolted freq isn't stable. With your settings I would wager its in the uper freq considering your undervolt in the lower freq isn't too extreme. You might try decreasing the undervolt for your upper freq to -50 -50 -50 starting at the top. Might help to stabilize bc higher freq just require more voltage. If that proves to be stable continue trying to reduce the lower freq as much as possible. Mainly bc if you set your profiles right(screen off is the most important really) your phone will spend the majority of its time on the 200mhz freq. Thus the more undervolt on that freq should theoretically give the most benefit from undervolting. This is just all from personal experience. I'm no guru. Just spent way too much time adjusting voltages on phones . And of course having the upper freq undervolted as much as possible cant hurt either.
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Glad your getting some results. If it restarts even once it means at least one of your undervolted freq isn't stable. With your settings I would wager its in the uper freq considering your undervolt in the lower freq isn't too extreme. You might try decreasing the undervolt for your upper freq to -50 -50 -50 starting at the top. Might help to stabilize bc higher freq just require more voltage. If that proves to be stable continue trying to reduce the lower freq as much as possible. Mainly bc if you set your profiles right(screen off is the most important really) your phone will spend the majority of its time on the 200mhz freq. Thus the more undervolt on that freq should theoretically give the most benefit from undervolting. This is just all from personal experience. I'm no guru. Just spent way too much time adjusting voltages on phones . And of course having the upper freq undervolted as much as possible cant hurt either.
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25,50,50,50,50,75,75
Still getting a reboot:'(
Only good thing about the reboot is it turns on instantly
PROFILES CONFIRMED WORKING trying to indwrvolt this thing
I think I'm gonna order another battery too bc this one isn't getting the 16 hours it was, I cant say much bc I'm screwing with the settings hardcore xD I will show.all settings in a sec
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Put blah there so it would post lol. Also going to download a stress test or quadrent thing to test the stress and find maximum uv
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Undervolting COMPLETE=D
QUAD SCORE! OCED 1.3 CM7
Right now I'm thinking my battery life is going to be amazig and if I turned the data off when not using it... omg I would last like 2 straight days prolly=D
So pumped to test everything morrow!!
Side note:800mhz or above wont go past 75 >:/
Had really important question to ask you but forgot
Also tried putting 215 to 275 that was a no go lol. My question was is there a battery manager and info like the stock one for cm7?!!!
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Smittyzz said:
Undervolting COMPLETE=D
QUAD SCORE! OCED 1.3 CM7
Right now I'm thinking my battery life is going to be amazig and if I turned the data off when not using it... omg I would last like 2 straight days prolly=D
So pumped to test everything morrow!!
Side note:800mhz or above wont go past 75 >:/
Had really important question to ask you but forgot
Also tried putting 215 to 275 that was a no go lol. My question was is there a battery manager and info like the stock one for cm7?!!!
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well my battery was draining mad quick so I am not overclocking It anymore unless I want to show off or play games lol, lost 20% in one hour. Now its stable and undervolted
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First off, regarding SetCpu and over / undercloking, dev has said it'll only underclock/overclock ONE core at a time. It's a bug and he's working on it from what I understand. If both cores are needed to be in use at the same time, no over / underclocking will be applied. Secondly, profiles work as they should in SetCpu, so that's a problem on your end. Third, the undervolting can't be more than 100mv differnce between jumps. See screen shot.
http://www.multiupload.com/YUK0KPXZLJ
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First off, regarding SetCpu and over / undercloking, dev has said it'll only underclock/overclock ONE core at a time. It's a bug and he's working on it from what I understand. If both cores are needed to be in use at the same time, no over / underclocking will be applied. Secondly, profiles work as they should in SetCpu, so that's a problem on your end. Third, the undervolting can't be more than 100mv differnce between jumps. See screen shot.
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I understand the 100 thing and I got the undervolting and profiles done. I hope he gets both cores supported soon and thank you dmfor the reply
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Yea Im skeptical about not setcpu not having support for dual cores... Did some searching on the net and couldnt find anything to support that. As far as not the tegra 2 not being able to do over 100mv jumps. That's not true. My lowest frequency is 600mv (-150) and my next frequency is at 750mv. That's a 150mv difference right there... And I'm completely stable. Its entirely dependent on your processor. They are all different and respond differently to undervolting. You just have to find what works for you. Generally though the lesser the jumps in voltage will give you more stability.
a good kernal helps too im useing faux123 v2.0 0C1.3 its undervolts quite well
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So I'm interested in undervolting using the stock CPU freq's, and I'm going to be using setCPU (obvi).
So, first question: Even if I want to use the stock frequencies, do I have to be using the OC kernel (0.2.1/1.45ghz at the time)? And then adjust the max to 1000mhz?
Second, I started up SetCPU and whenever I go to the voltage tab it forcecloses. This happens with both the stock enhanced & OC kernel, and I've tried fixing permissions to no avail.
All I really understand so far is that the end result is a table of CPU frequencies and linked voltages. I've OCed the hell out of desktops, but I'm lost here.
I'd just like to know how to get from starting up setcpu to ultimately popping out that new voltage/freq table.
I do apologize if this seems kinda stupid, I'm just trying to exercise caution lest I demolish my phone's innards. I've done it with many an intel.
If you just want stock frequencies, then there's no need for a custom kernel. I guess in that case, you could just use SetCPU for undervolting & profiles.
However, if you want overclock, you'll need a custom kernel.
If you're going to be using a overclocked kernel (i.e. the new Faux 1.45 GHz), then you will need to set the max to 1.45 GHz, and make sure SetCPU is set to start on boot; other wise it will stay at the stock clock speed of 1 GHz... So i guess if you only wanted the OC at certain times, you could set the max speed manually, only when you want to, and not select to start on boot.
I haven't really had any success with undervolting yet... always crashes on me & reboots. The best thing to do is make sure "set to boot" is not selected, when testing your undervolting, other wise you could get stuck in a loop, with the phone crashing every time it boots and tries to apply you undervolting values. I'd start at -25 for each and work from there... stress testing each choice with a benchmark app to make sure you wont reboot... if it reboots, then you know your undervolt was to much. Also remember that you can not undervolt more than -100 between each frequency, otherwise the undervolting will not make any difference.
I really like the profile options in SetCPU... you can set the screen off frequencies to the lowest two, that way for whatever reason your phone isn't running at full strength while your not using it. Also, you can set frequency speeds at custom defined battery levels.
Hope this helps somewhat.
It's unclear to me why it force closes. This may be a rom incompatibility or a SuperUser issue? I assume you've tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it? Updating your SU app? Try flashing to the latest Aura rom?
A few quick words about SetCPU:
1. When you first get started, do not set to "Set on Boot" in case you've undervolted too much and it crashes when applied. You can always check it later once you know the voltages are stable.
2. Between each frequency step there is a maximum of 100mV step off. Anything greater than that it defaults to native voltage. I think this is a Tegra2 issue.
With that said, undervolting is simple: simply slide the little slider on SetCPU to negative values. How much you can under-volt largely depends on your particular hardware and it is inconsistent across all Atrix's. My voltage table is as belows:
1000mhz: -50
912: -50
750: -50
608: -75
456: -75
312: -100
216: -100
I, however, did not test the limits of my phone. Many people will slowly increment the voltage lower until they start to get resets, and then they'll move it back to find the lowest stable point.
It has, however, been well established that minor undervolting improves battery life and diminishes heat generation. Excessive undervolting may actually hurt battery life. You can look around on this forum regarding the data. However, reasonable undervolting will improve battery life.
Thanks fellas, this helps A LOT.
I was so afraid I'd get 17 responses of "You're such a noob. Stop cluttering the forums" etc etc
At this point, I think that the problem is, for whatever reason, the FC when I tap the voltages tab.
I'm on the newest Aura (1.2.2.1) newest enhanced stock kernel from Faux123 (0.2.1) and the newest SetCPU (2.4). I'll try updating my SU (though I believe I did that right after I flashed.
I'll reintall SetCPU and report back.
Until then, THANKS BUCKETS fellas. I really appreciate the info and advice.
UPDATE: May have found the problem. When it first boots up it prompts to autodetect freq's or choose them manually (or something like that). I was afraid this would actually alter my CPU clocks right then and there and so I hit manual detect, saw something that said Tegra2 etc and clicked it. I just now hit 'menu' and set it to autodetect, tried the voltages tab, and no FC, so I think that's solved.
Thanks again for all the info guys! I'll start experimenting and let you know HOW LOW I CAN GO (ha).
You guys get force closes due to kernel problems. You have to ask your developments. There might be something wrong with some of your cpu voltage drivers. So yeah that's why just a tip. Only overclock when you're playing some high end game. If not stick to normal. If not your phone might get overheated and damaged
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AdiNova said:
You guys get force closes due to kernel problems. You have to ask your developments. There might be something wrong with some of your cpu voltage drivers. So yeah that's why just a tip. Only overclock when you're playing some high end game. If not stick to normal. If not your phone might get overheated and damaged
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It's cool bro the problem was totally a user goof by me. I kind of agree with your OC philosophy though, primarily because 1ghz with this proc an RAM seems ample and I don't do much gaming.
Real quick:
When undervolting, should I do it one freq step at a time? Or can I do ALL of them at say -25, stress test, then adjust? Also, what's a good stress test that'll force the proc to hit all the different freqs instead of just the max clock and then the minimum when it's idling/the screen is off?
xyrovice said:
It's cool bro the problem was totally a user goof by me. I kind of agree with your OC philosophy though, primarily because 1ghz with this proc an RAM seems ample and I don't do much gaming.
Real quick:
When undervolting, should I do it one freq step at a time? Or can I do ALL of them at say -25, stress test, then adjust? Also, what's a good stress test that'll force the proc to hit all the different freqs instead of just the max clock and then the minimum when it's idling/the screen is off?
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Id start at -25 for all. Setcpu has a built in stress test under info, I think. Could also try a benchmark to test it. As general rule if thumb, then lower frequencies can be undervolted more, while the higher ones take some tweaking... I can't even do -25 on my 1000, b/c ill eventually get a reboot, maybe not right away, but eventually. Every device is unique when it comes to undervolting.... just remember to not set the undervolt part to auto on boot, until you get it somewhat stable.
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Id start at -25 for all. Setcpu has a built in stress test under info, I think. Could also try a benchmark to test it. As general rule if thumb, then lower frequencies can be undervolted more, while the higher ones take some tweaking... I can't even do -25 on my 1000, b/c ill eventually get a reboot, maybe not right away, but eventually. Every device is unique when it comes to undervolting.... just remember to not set the undervolt part to auto on boot, until you get it somewhat stable.
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Got it. I figure that 'set on boot' checkbox is basically a wedding ring ha. Thanks for the advice and insight my friend.
Also (as I run my first stress test with -25 across the board) if I get reboots early on, should I assume it's the higher voltages and that I should back off on the fast end of the clocks?
xyrovice said:
Got it. I figure that 'set on boot' checkbox is basically a wedding ring ha. Thanks for the advice and insight my friend.
Also (as I run my first stress test with -25 across the board) if I get reboots early on, should I assume it's the higher voltages and that I should back off on the fast end of the clocks?
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When testing each frequency just set your min/max mHz to the level your testing i.e. min/max=1000. UV and stress test at that frequency and if it's stable, move to min/max=912 and so on.
FYI, my MHz might be different than yours, I'm on the stock enhanced.
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When testing each frequency just set your min/max mHz to the level your testing i.e. min/max=1000. UV and stress test at that frequency and if it's stable, move to min/max=912 and so on.
FYI, my MHz might be different than yours, I'm on the stock enhanced.
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That makes perfect sense- limiting the max during the stress test. Thanks for the tip bro I really appreciate it.
I'm running stock, unlocked 198_7 with jokers 1.4Ghz kernel with various tweaks and what not. I'm also using the Myrt Undervolt app as well...my question is how low should I undervolt it? What are safe and suggested settings running my setup and in general? And does undervolting only save battery life or are there other benefits?
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I would also like to know the answer to this question i only lowered mine a little bit havent tried going any lower but i am on 1.3 oc with jokers rom
Hello fellow mopho owner!
Undervolting is quite trivial! Each phone is different. There is no magic number for which you can UV or OC to and not have stability issues without proper testing.
A good way to start would be to pick a frequency, UV it in increments of -25, then proceed to run stability tests. If you encounter no issues, then decrease the voltage by -25 again and repeat the stability tests. You can do this until you encounter issues. If all is stable with this frequency, then proceed to UV another one. And repeat the same stability tests.
I recommend not to UV any higher than -50. You're just begging for a system failure. -50 should easily yield a noticably increase in battery life.
The benefit of UV only yields extended battery life at the cost of some said performance in various ways.
With having said that. Next time you have a question about an specific app, post in the Q&A section of the forums.
If you would like to share an app or theme, post it here. In the "Theme/App" section of the forum.
-cheers
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Custodian said:
Hello fellow mopho owner!
Undervolting is quite trivial! Each phone is different. There is no magic number for which you can UV or OC to and not have stability issues without proper testing.
A good way to start would be to pick a frequency, UV it in increments of -25, then proceed to run stability tests. If you encounter no issues, then decrease the voltage by -25 again and repeat the stability tests. You can do this until you encounter issues. If all is stable with this frequency, then proceed to UV another one. And repeat the same stability tests.
I recommend not to UV any higher than -50. You're just begging for a system failure. -50 should easily yield a noticably increase in battery life.
The benefit of UV only yields extended battery life at the cost of some said performance in various ways.
With having said that. Next time you have a question about an specific app, post in the Q&A section of the forums.
If you would like to share an app or theme, post it here. In the "Theme/App" section of the forum.
-cheers
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This is the only forum it would let me post in...the new member restrictions are frustrating.
Lol. I felt the same way. All good
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This is the only forum it would let me post in...the new member restrictions are frustrating.
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The tegra is picky and only likes booting at certain voltages. So many of the clocks could be uv'ed by up to 100. Loki manged 175 somehow... test till see causes issues but be thorough. Oh and my next kernels will require new values as im changing uv code to be more compatible with uv apps.
Custodian said:
Hello fellow mopho owner!
Undervolting is quite trivial! Each phone is different. There is no magic number for which you can UV or OC to and not have stability issues without proper testing.
A good way to start would be to pick a frequency, UV it in increments of -25, then proceed to run stability tests. If you encounter no issues, then decrease the voltage by -25 again and repeat the stability tests. You can do this until you encounter issues. If all is stable with this frequency, then proceed to UV another one. And repeat the same stability tests.
I recommend not to UV any higher than -50. You're just begging for a system failure. -50 should easily yield a noticably increase in battery life.
The benefit of UV only yields extended battery life at the cost of some said performance in various ways.
With having said that. Next time you have a question about an specific app, post in the Q&A section of the forums.
If you would like to share an app or theme, post it here. In the "Theme/App" section of the forum.
-cheers
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1gHz and higher tend to float around -75 to -100 on average. Below 1Ghz it's anywhere between -250 and -150 on average. Attached you will find a list of all reported undervolts on the Atrix minus the ones that are the same undervolt for every clock speed. I've noticed that it's hard to fine tune the jump between the 700Mhz range and 1Ghz. Keeping the jump no greater than 100mV seems to be best.
I would kill to have profiles, under/over clocking and undervolting all in the same app and working. Maybe if enough of us get together we may be able to convince the app devs to put it in. I'd personally love to see it in setcpu or romtoolbox.
Maybe i should build a battery life kernel
Lokifish Marz said:
1gHz and higher tend to float around -75 to -100 on average. Below 1Ghz it's anywhere between -250 and -150 on average. Attached you will find a list of all reported undervolts on the Atrix minus the ones that are the same undervolt for every clock speed. I've noticed that it's hard to fine tune the jump between the 700Mhz range and 1Ghz. Keeping the jump no greater than 100mV seems to be best.
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Maybe i should build a battery life kernel
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That would be cool. Just a posting of all successful settings would be nice too.
One thing I've never understood are a bit more of the specific on how uv affects performance, from the comments it seems to have even more of an effect the more you oc (you don't seem to be able to uv as much when you oc).
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MinceMan said:
That would be cool. Just a posting of all successful settings would be nice too.
One thing I've never understood are a bit more of the specific on how uv affects performance, from the comments it seems to have even more of an effect the more you oc (you don't seem to be able to uv as much when you oc).
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My undervolt txt are all the successful settings for our sister phone the atrix. From what I've seen, the results are in line with both my mopho's. Overclock/undervolt is more an art than science. There are many factors that affect results such as cpu batch, ambient temps, mainboard variances and the list goes on. This is why pc overclockers will hunt for specific batch numbers when overclocking. The same goes for undervolting.
With regards to performance. There is a very fine line between efficient and inefficient when oc'ing and uv. I'll be honest, I've spent hours fine tuning an oc/uv to get the best performance at a given clock rate. I've used the following formula (benchmark score/uv= efficiency @ tested clock speed) and it has paid off in the past (the art vs science thing still applies though). I have, in some cases, found the device to be more efficient with a tuned undervolt than stock. However no to devices are the same, EVER.
Lokifish Marz said:
1gHz and higher tend to float around -75 to -100 on average. Below 1Ghz it's anywhere between -250 and -150 on average. Attached you will find a list of all reported undervolts on the Atrix minus the ones that are the same undervolt for every clock speed. I've noticed that it's hard to fine tune the jump between the 700Mhz range and 1Ghz. Keeping the jump no greater than 100mV seems to be best.
I would kill to have profiles, under/over clocking and undervolting all in the same app and working. Maybe if enough of us get together we may be able to convince the app devs to put it in. I'd personally love to see it in setcpu or romtoolbox.
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Thanks man...all these posts have been very informative...this is the most info on undervolting I've seen in one place. You guys are awesome...I'll post some nudes soon in appreciation....HA!..just kidding...unless you ask nicely...then it'll be $5.
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Thanks Loki!
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Im running CM7 and just flashed "1.4 newoc 240-325-300 for cm7" and have read about undervolting, apparently it saves battery? What kind of settings is everyone running without having the phone lock up or anything with this kernel? Is there any really noticeable battery savings from undervolting? Im a complete noob when it comes to overclocking and undervolting. Would undervolting possibly damage the hardware over time? Any insight on undervolting and overclocking would be greatly appreciated. Can you provide a noob friendly walk through on how to undervolt and the pros/cons? Thanks a bunch
Edit: I see in setcpu it has differnt mV ratings depenting on the Mhz that the processor is running, can someone run me through whats a "safe" level to bring them all down to? Like at 216 Mhz its autoset to 750 mV and at 1000 Mhz its set to 1000 mV and 1400 Mhz its at 1300 mV. Also, i cant adjust the scaling, should i be using a different kernel? If so can you provide a specific one? And does scaling have a large affect?
I have the same issue with not having the scaling option. I don't really care as set CPU still does what it is supposed to.
I am using cm7 with jokers 1.3kernel uvolted -75mv across the board. I have had no issues what so ever. I did experience less battery life but I attribute that to constantly messing with my phone since rom-ing and using jokers kernel. I did learn to shut off wifi when not using it. That itself helped tremendously.
There should be no hardware damage from undervolting (only stability issues). Its overvolting is what you should be worried about and iirc those are set by the kernel dev during configuration/compiling. I don't think any dev is going to push the voltage envelope and risk hard bricking his/her device and many other users devices.
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scaling is done hardware level in tegra 2
Ok great thanks, to the both of you, for the replies. I seem to have found a pretty stable setup of undervolts and im going to run for another day to make sure before i set it to auto adjust on boot.